[AMV] Amerikaanse politiek #430 A Historic Tax Heist

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 21:29 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Dat is geen bewijs voor je claim, alleen dat de FBI niet bij de servers is geweest. Verder vermoed ik dat je claim aan elkaar hangt van conspiracy-denken, want die beveiligingsexperts van bedrijven zouden niet te vertrouwen zijn, omdat. Maar goed, als de FBI er wel bij was geweest, dan was het de deep state geweest ofzo, dus ach.

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 21:33 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Goed punt!

Donald Trump faces obstruction of justice claims after admitting he knew Michael Flynn lied to FBI months ago

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 21:38 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Maar dit laat onverlet dat er een narratief is gepusht zonder dat de Amerikaanse regering het onomstotelijke bewijs heeft kunnen leveren van de aantijgingen van de DNC en Hillary Clinton als reden waarom de Democraten de verkiezingen verloren hadden.

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 21:48 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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In mijn bubble worden juist vele oorzaken aangegeven waarom ze verloren heeft. De gestolen en gepubliceerde mails was natuurlijk wel een onderdeel daarvan, net als Russische inmenging in de vorm van trolls en het kopen van advertenties.
Vermoedelijk was de grootste factor nog wel de truc van Chaffetz om te doen alsof Clinton weer opnieuw serieus onderzocht werd door de FBI met de brief van Comey, waar alle media een schandelijke rol in gespeeld hebben (wat dat betreft is de 24h news cycle echt een vloek... alles moet zo snel mogelijk de deur uit).
Verder heb je natuurlijk dat Clinton nogal overkwam als een technocraat, overkwam als niet echt menselijk, reclame inkocht in staten die bijna zeker 1 kant al op zouden gaan toen ze zo rond 9% pollde, de rust belt staten te weinig bezocht, etc.

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 21:37 schreef brokjespoes het volgende:
Ik denk dat Trump -zoals wel vaker- gewoon wat typte zonder te beseffen dat het onzin was.

Beetje interessant willen overkomen enzo.

(Via Twitter toegeven dat hij er wél van wist... zo dom is volgens mij niemand. )

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 21:37 schreef brokjespoes het volgende:
Ik denk dat Trump -zoals wel vaker- gewoon wat typte zonder te beseffen dat het onzin was.

Beetje interessant willen overkomen enzo.

(Via Twitter toegeven dat hij er wél van wist... zo dom is volgens mij niemand. )

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 18:39 schreef Nintex het volgende:

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op zaterdag 02-12-2017 om 18:14:13 I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It… https://t.co/8bMCLGuAhf reageer retweet

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 22:04 schreef Falco het volgende:

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 22:14 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
Trump moet toch wel de domste motherfokker alive zijn.

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 22:00 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Dit klinkt in elk geval samenhangender dan de Russia collusion delusion.

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In elk geval heeft niemand het onderzoek van Binney cs weten te ontkrachten, terwijl dit al een half jaar geleden is gepubliceerd.

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Anderzijds is het narratief over de bevindingen van Crowdstrike die delen daarvan heeft teruggetrokken en Fusion GPS, het PeePee dossier, dat as we speak nog steeds niet door de FBI is bevestigd.

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Ondertussen zijn er op basis van een niet bevestigde dossier FISA aanvragen gedaan (ook na de verkiezingen), mensen illegaal getapt, illegaal mensen die getapt zijn onthuld, informatie uit de taps illegaal naar de media gelekt, sancties ingesteld op basis van gefabriceerde informatie en een kleine Koude Oorlog gestart.

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 22:14 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
Trump moet toch wel de domste motherfokker alive zijn.

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 22:14 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
Trump moet toch wel de domste motherfokker alive zijn.

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KateKsaunders twitterde op zaterdag 02-12-2017 om 18:44:07 @realDonaldTrump One more quick question, then you can get back to your obstruction, promise. How the fuck are you this dumb and still have managed to survive 7 decades? reageer retweet

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[...]The white-collar attorney representing the senior Trump official in the Russia probe said the president’s lawyers don’t have many options beyond cooperating and trying to publicly nudge the probe toward a conclusion.

“What was the other strategy you could pursue that’d be better than this one? Run Flynn over with a fucking car? Pardon him? What were you going to do? It’s easy to snipe at these folks. But in fairness I think you’ve got to ask yourself what was the alternative,” the attorney said.

“Their strategy is designed to do the best they can with what they had,” the attorney added. “Essentially they’ve got no leverage. They’ve got no control over the situation and no ability meaningfully to influence what Mueller does and when he does it. None. They’re like the knight in the Monty Python movie. He’s got his arms and legs chopped off and he stands there shouting, ‘Bring it on! It’s just a scratch.’”[...]

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Op zaterdag 2 december 2017 22:04 schreef Falco het volgende:

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Trump transition official in email: Russia 'has just thrown the U.S.A election'

President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday.

McFarland reportedly wrote in the email that sanctions then-President Obama levied on Russia in response to Moscow's election meddling would make it more difficult for Trump to improve relations with Russia, "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him."

The Times reported that it was unclear whether the transition official was saying she believed that the election had been thrown. A White House lawyer told the newspaper that McFarland was referring to the Democrats' portrayal of the election.

Emails obtained by the Times show that Trump's team moved quickly to develop a strategy on how to reassure Russia after learning that Obama would expel 35 Russian diplomats in the weeks before he left office.

The report comes one day after Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with then-Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak in the month before Trump took office.

Flynn had previously denied that he discussed sanctions with the Russian official, but later acknowledged that the issue came up. Trump fired him over the issue in February, 24 days after he took the White House post.

McFarland was reportedly aware of Flynn's contact with Moscow. An Associated Press report on Friday identified McFarland as a senior transition official mentioned in court documents who discussed with Flynn in 2016 the U.S. sanctions against Russia and potential retaliation from Moscow.

Outlets also identified Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner as the "very senior transition official" referenced in the documents who reportedly pushed Flynn to persuade the Russian government to vote against a United Nations Security Council resolution condemning Israeli settlements. The U.N. vote ended up advancing.

McFarland served as Trump's deputy national security adviser until May and is currently awaiting confirmation to be his ambassador to Singapore.

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Emails Dispute White House Claims That Flynn Acted Independently on Russia

WASHINGTON — When President Trump fired his national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in February, White House officials portrayed him as a renegade who had acted independently in his discussions with a Russian official during the presidential transition and then lied to his colleagues about the interactions.

But emails among top transition officials, provided or described to The New York Times, suggest that Mr. Flynn was far from a rogue actor. In fact, the emails, coupled with interviews and court documents filed on Friday, showed that Mr. Flynn was in close touch with other senior members of the Trump transition team both before and after he spoke with the Russian ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, about American sanctions against Russia.

While Mr. Trump has disparaged as a Democratic “hoax” any claims that he or his aides had unusual interactions with Russian officials, the records suggest that the Trump transition team was intensely focused on improving relations with Moscow and was willing to intervene to pursue that goal despite a request from the Obama administration that it not sow confusion about official American policy before Mr. Trump took office.

On Dec. 29, a transition adviser to Mr. Trump, K. T. McFarland, wrote in an email to a colleague that sanctions announced hours before by the Obama administration in retaliation for Russian election meddling were aimed at discrediting Mr. Trump’s victory. The sanctions could also make it much harder for Mr. Trump to ease tensions with Russia, “which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him,” she wrote in the emails obtained by The Times.

It is not clear whether Ms. McFarland was saying she believed that the election had in fact been thrown. A White House lawyer said on Friday that she meant only that the Democrats were portraying it that way.

But it is evident from the emails — which were obtained from someone who had access to transition team communications — that after learning that President Barack Obama would expel 35 Russian diplomats, the Trump team quickly strategized about how to reassure Russia. The Trump advisers feared that a cycle of retaliation between the United States and Russia would keep the spotlight on Moscow’s election meddling, tarnishing Mr. Trump’s victory and potentially hobbling his presidency from the start.

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