We could also customise the wrecking ball and empty beercan/fence analogies if you like.quote:Op zaterdag 2 september 2017 17:15 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
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I see the power of an example is still beyond your mental grasp.
En het wtc ook niet een massief stuk metaal!, zelfde geld voor het empire state building en toch kan een veel kleiner vliegtuig gigantisch veel schade toebrengen!quote:Op zaterdag 2 september 2017 19:02 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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Apart from the engines and landing gear,they most certainly are, in comparison to an enormous steel building.
Aircraft are far from being solid objects are they?
And that's a mistake on your part. One being more efficient than the other doesn't mean that the less efficient one does no damage at all.quote:Op zaterdag 2 september 2017 19:25 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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We could also customise the wrecking ball and empty beercan/fence analogies if you like.
One very small , hollow , thin aluminium ball and the other a hollow , much larger , thicker , steel ball.
We could then test the strength of the balls against a garden fence (made of chicken wire for example) and see which ball would cause and sustain the most significant damage.
Die vogel overleeft het?quote:Op zaterdag 2 september 2017 19:18 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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Ze zijn zeer fraglel in vergelijking met 'n enorme staal gebouw.
In sommige gevallen ook zeer fragiel tegen 'n vogel van 4 of 5 kg toch?
als een vogel dat doet.. Wat doet dan een vliegtuig tegen een gebouw..? Vogel vs aluminium..quote:
But I didn't say that.quote:Op zaterdag 2 september 2017 19:33 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
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And that's a mistake on your part. One being more efficient than the other doesn't mean that the less efficient one does no damage at all.
Maar waarom maakt het dan verschil of de bal 10m2 aan kippengaas raakt of 100m2?quote:Op zaterdag 2 september 2017 19:25 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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We could also customise the wrecking ball and empty beercan/fence analogies if you like.
One very small , hollow , thin aluminium ball and the other a hollow , much larger , thicker , steel ball.
We could then test the strength of the balls against a garden fence (made of chicken wire for example) and see which ball would cause and sustain the most significant damage.
So you finally admit that aluminium can damage steel?quote:
I've never said it wouldn't so there's nothing to admit.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 10:33 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
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So you finally admit that aluminium can damage steel?
Well yes, that is pretty much exactly what followed from several of your statements over the years. Aluminium not being able to go through steel for example.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 11:44 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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I've never said it wouldn't.
You're trying to put words in my mouth again.
This is one of the reasons why it's pointless trying to discuss anything with you.
You either don't read my posts properly or you do it deliberately so you can appear as if you are right. Probably both.
No.You haven't been reading my posts properly.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 11:46 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
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Well yes, that is pretty much exactly what followed from several of your statements over the years. Aluminium not being able to go through steel for example.
De vleugels zijn niet door het staal gegaan. Dus die discussie is sowieso onzin.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 11:50 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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No.You haven't been reading my posts properly.
'Going through' and superficial damage are two completely different things.
The way you try and twist peoples words is quite desperate and a bit irritating.It's a sign of ignorance not intelligence.
No they are not, just a difference in magnitude.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 11:50 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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No.You haven't been reading my posts properly.
'Going through' and superficial damage are two completely different things.
The way you try and twist peoples words is quite desperate and a bit irritating.It's a sign of ignorance not intelligence.
No. I've always made it very clear that there would be slight damage to the perimeter walls of the buildings, but the 'plane' would not penetrate the building through the steel girders.quote:
Irrelevant.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 13:16 schreef Tingo het volgende:
Ziet er wel fragiel uit.
Ryanair planes' wings collide at Dublin Airport
https://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1007/650519-ryanair-dublin-airport/
Stop nou eens met beweren dat vliegtuigen fragiel zouden zijn. Dat is gewoon totale onzin.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 13:16 schreef Tingo het volgende:
Ziet er wel fragiel uit.
Ryanair planes' wings collide at Dublin Airport
https://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1007/650519-ryanair-dublin-airport/
It shouldn't take much imagination to understand what would happen to such a fragile vehicle if it were to collide with a number of steel girders.
Which is just a difference in magnitude. You just lack the knowledge and the will to obtain that knowledge to realise that.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 13:15 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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No. I've always made it very clear that there would be slight damage to the perimeter walls of the buildings, but the 'plane' would not penetrate the building through the steel girders.
You're as notorious as Garden Fence for trying to put words in peoples' mouths.
Tja, je geeft dus toe dat aluminium schade jan aanrichten.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 13:15 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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No. I've always made it very clear that there would be slight damage to the perimeter walls of the buildings, but the 'plane' would not penetrate the building through the steel girders.
You're as notorious as Garden Fence for trying to put words in peoples' mouths.
Aircraft engineers aren't even allowed to walk on the wings without extreme caution.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 13:20 schreef ChrisCarter het volgende:
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Stop nou eens met beweren dat vliegtuigen fragiel zouden zijn. Dat is gewoon totale onzin.
Tja, iedereen kan fantaseren.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 13:16 schreef Tingo het volgende:
Ziet er wel fragiel uit.
Ryanair planes' wings collide at Dublin Airport
https://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1007/650519-ryanair-dublin-airport/
It shouldn't take much imagination to understand what would happen to such a fragile vehicle if it were to collide with a number of steel girders.
De vleugels zijn niet door het staal gegaan.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 13:29 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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Aircraft engineers aren't even allowed to walk on the wings without extreme caution.
In comparison to a huge steel building they are extremely fragile.
Dat jij denkt dat 't 'gewoon totale onzin' vindt, niet mijne probleem is.
The control surfaces are fragile, the wings are not.quote:Op zondag 3 september 2017 13:29 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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Aircraft engineers aren't even allowed to walk on the wings without extreme caution.
In comparison to a huge steel building they are extremely fragile.
Dat jij denkt dat 't 'gewoon totale onzin' vindt, niet mijne probleem is.
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