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  Redactie Games vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 00:23:51 #201
436761 crew  Puddington
Ja, die nerd!
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Pence en Trump dromen groot en inspireren veel mensen.
Nou ja, hij inspireert me wel om nooit zo'n seniele oude zak te worden op die leeftijd, als je dat bedoelt...
Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day
  vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 00:40:37 #202
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Rick Perry offered a ‘little economics lesson.’ It didn’t go so well.

taykuy twitterde op donderdag 06-07-2017 om 18:24:57 DOE Rick Perry at coal plant:"Here’s a little economics lesson: supply and demand. You put the supply out there and the demand will follow." reageer retweet
_O- :')
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Moderator vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 00:41:38 #203
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Rick Perry offered a ‘little economics lesson.’ It didn’t go so well.

taykuy twitterde op donderdag 06-07-2017 om 18:24:57 DOE Rick Perry at coal plant:"Here’s a little economics lesson: supply and demand. You put the supply out there and the demand will follow." reageer retweet
_O- :')
Ja, ja, da's de Republikeinse intelligentsia.
"The enemy isn't men, or women, it's bloody stupid people and no one has the right to be stupid." - Sir Terry Pratchett.
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Rick Perry is dan ook een soort van poor mans George W. Bush imitator.
  vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 01:20:31 #205
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Nog zo'n pareltje _O-

McConnell: If we can't repeal Obamacare, we'll fix it

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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Thursday that if the chamber's fledgling Republican Obamacare repeal effort falls short, Congress will have to pass a more limited bill to shore up health insurance markets.

"If my side is unable to agree on an adequate replacement, then some kind of action with regard to the private health insurance market must occur," McConnell said at a Rotary Club luncheon in Glasgow, Ky., the Associated Press reported. "No action is not an alternative. ... We've got the insurance markets imploding all over the country, including in this state."

A bill to strengthen the insurance markets would presumably need Democratic support to get 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. McConnell in the past has warned fractious GOP lawmakers that if the Republican-only repeal effort failed, he would be forced to work with top Democrat Chuck Schumer on legislation that conservatives would likely oppose much more than the GOP repeal bill. He repeated that after a White House meeting with the president last week.

The remarks could be aimed at Senate conservatives who argue the bill doesn't repeal enough of the health care law and contend that Republican leaders are turning their back on their eight-year-old campaign pledge to do away with the Affordable Care Act. Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Mike Lee (R-Utah) have proposed an amendment to allow insurance companies that sell Obamacare plans to also sell non-Obamacare plans, an idea that health care experts say would tank the markets.

Thursday's comments came after McConnell canceled a planned vote before the July Fourth recess on a repeal bill after it became clear it wouldn’t get support from 50 of the 52 Senate Republicans. McConnell and GOP leaders are redrafting their legislation with hopes of passing it before the August recess.

Several Republicans have come out against the Senate plan, including the conservatives. Moderate Republicans oppose it, too, arguing it would harm people with existing coverage or with pre-existing conditions.

Indeed, McConnell's remarks Thursday are a far cry from his own rhetoric. In his contentious 2014 reelection campaign, McConnell repeatedly promised that he and Republicans would repeal Obamacare "root and branch."

After McConnell raised the prospect of working on the insurance markets, his Democratic counterpart said he's ready to start talking.

“It’s encouraging that Sen. McConnell today acknowledged that the issues with the exchanges are fixable, and opened the door to bipartisan solutions to improve our health care system," Schumer said in a statement. "As we’ve said time and time again, Democrats are eager to work with Republicans to stabilize the markets and improve the law. At the top of the list should be ensuring cost-sharing payments are permanent, which will protect health care for millions.”
Hadden ze beter gelijk op het aanbod van de Democraten in kunnen gaan. Maar ja, al doende leert men en beter laat dan nooit zullen we maar zeggen :D
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Overall beste user 2022 vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 05:56:57 #206
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Wat een gezichtsverlies.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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Wat, Mevr Merkel heeft een speech gehouden?
Sinds wanneer is anti-homohuwelijk Merkel de leider van de vrije wereld? :?
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Sinds wanneer is anti-homohuwelijk Merkel de leider van de vrije wereld? :?
Sinds Trump de complete wereld van zich aan het vervreemden is, met uitzondering van de leiders van S-A, Egypte, Polen en de Filipijnen.
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
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Het begint al met dingen als:
"There are threats but we will defeat them"

Mindset is heel belangrijk. Het eeuwige geleuter over 'crisis' werkt niet. Trump is met sheer force of will president geworden: "I'm going to win, we're going to win", "We're going to win this state!"

Dat is precies wat Churchill / Kennedy ook veelvuldig gebruikte. De boekhouders en bureaucraten zijn leuk, maar je wint er soms letterlijk geen oorlogen mee.

Obama trouwens net zo in zijn eerste campagne: "Yes we can!"
Zozo, Trump zegt dat er bedreigingen zijn maar dat we die zullen overwinnen.

Dat is echt Churchilliaanse en Rooseveltiaanse shizzle inderdaad.
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
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Welke oorlog heeft Kennedy trouwens gewonnen?
Hoeren neuken, nooit meer werken.
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Sinds Trump de complete wereld van zich aan het vervreemden is, met uitzondering van de leiders van S-A, Egypte, Polen en de Filipijnen.
Oh. Dus de keuze is enkel tussen Trump en Merkel?
:D

Erg apart dat liberalen en linksen de religieuze en discriminerende Merkel als leider van de vrije wereld zien. Hoe laag ze zijn gezakt de afgelopen decennia, puur en alleen om het multicultureel fabeltje in stand te houden. Migratiepolitiek lijkt echt de enige criteria te zijn om te bepalen of je "vrij" bent of niet. Al het andere kan in de stront zakken.
  vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 08:19:52 #212
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Laat maar lekker draaien
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De scheidslijn ligt denk ik eerder tussen gek en gezond van verstand, niet per se langs ideologische lijnen.
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Oh. Dus de keuze is enkel tussen Trump en Merkel?
:D

Erg apart dat liberalen en linksen de religieuze en discriminerende Merkel als leider van de vrije wereld zien. Hoe laag ze zijn gezakt de afgelopen decennia, puur en alleen om het multicultureel fabeltje in stand te houden. Migratiepolitiek lijkt echt de enige criteria te zijn om te bepalen of je "vrij" bent of niet. Al het andere kan in de stront zakken.
Aan de andere kant is het juist door Merkel gekomen dat het homohuwelijk nu wel geregeld is in Duitsland, ondanks haar tegenstem. Zij brak immers de tot dan toe gebruikelijke fractiedwang door aan te geven dat het een gewetenskwestie moest zijn voor de partijleden. Zonder de dissidenten uit het CDU was die wet er niet gekomen, en zonder Merkel waren die dissidenten er niet geweest.

Dat terzijde, uiteraard. De reden dat zij gezien wordt als 'leider' van de vrije wereld is dat het na Amerika zo'n beetje het meest invloedrijke land binnen de democratische wereld is, zeker binnen Europa, en dat zij zich ook nog altijd inzet voor een koers van samenwerking, tegenover het isolationisme van Trump.
Hoeren neuken, nooit meer werken.
  vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 08:23:47 #214
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The North Remembers
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Oh. Dus de keuze is enkel tussen Trump en Merkel?
Ja.
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Erg apart dat liberalen en linksen de religieuze en discriminerende Merkel als leider van de vrije wereld zien. Hoe laag ze zijn gezakt de afgelopen decennia, puur en alleen om het multicultureel fabeltje in stand te houden. Migratiepolitiek lijkt echt de enige criteria te zijn om te bepalen of je "vrij" bent of niet. Al het andere kan in de stront zakken.
Zie daar het verschil tussen een democratisch leider en een autoritair leider.

Het verschil tussen: "Ik ben er zelf geen voorstander van, maar als de meerderheid ervoor is zal ik me er naar schikken" en "Ik wil het niet, dus het gebeurd niet!"
"The north remembers, Lord Davos. The north remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done.”
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Oh. Dus de keuze is enkel tussen Trump en Merkel?
:D

Erg apart dat liberalen en linksen de religieuze en discriminerende Merkel als leider van de vrije wereld zien. Hoe laag ze zijn gezakt de afgelopen decennia, puur en alleen om het multicultureel fabeltje in stand te houden. Migratiepolitiek lijkt echt de enige criteria te zijn om te bepalen of je "vrij" bent of niet. Al het andere kan in de stront zakken.
Wie komt dan in aanmerking?

Macron? May? Rutte? Xi? Poetin?
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
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En nee Refregmental, met de migratiepolitiek heeft het niets te maken. Trump is druk bezig om zich te vervreemden van de traditionele bondgenoten (lees: West-Europa). Hij probeert keer op keer een wig te drijven tussen de EU-landen, waardoor de afstand nog groter wordt.

Niemand in de vrije wereld moet iets hebben van Trump. Daarom kijkt men naar Merkel.
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
  vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 09:06:25 #217
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Nou ja, hij inspireert me wel om nooit zo'n seniele oude zak te worden op die leeftijd, als je dat bedoelt...
:D
Mag ik je vandaag weer eens irriteren?
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Oh. Dus de keuze is enkel tussen Trump en Merkel?
:D

Erg apart dat liberalen en linksen de religieuze en discriminerende Merkel als leider van de vrije wereld zien. Hoe laag ze zijn gezakt de afgelopen decennia, puur en alleen om het multicultureel fabeltje in stand te houden. Migratiepolitiek lijkt echt de enige criteria te zijn om te bepalen of je "vrij" bent of niet. Al het andere kan in de stront zakken.
Ik vind het erg apart dat je je beklaagt dat anti-Trumpers op een hoop worden gegooid maar dat je zelf nu ook behoorlijk generaliseert.
Hint: Dat helpt de discussie niet. :N
  Overall beste user 2022 vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 10:35:44 #219
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Aardig stuk over waarom Trump de plank misslaat met zijn gelul over bijdragen aan een niet bestaand NATO-fonds.

http://www.politico.com/m(...)-trump-poland-215345

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As far as Trump’s bragging goes, the reality is that Germany and other nations have been increasing defense spending in recent years, but not because of anything Trump has said or done. The growing spending in Europe is a direct result of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the destabilizing and menacing policies it has adopted in the past five years, such as its own surge in defense spending; its revamping of conventional forces; its blatant violation of the 1987 INF Treaty by deploying a missile specifically banned by the treaty; its modernization of strategic nuclear forces on land and at sea; its dangerous intentional challenges to NATO operations at sea, on land and in the air; and, of course, its interference in democratic elections in the United States, France and others in Europe. It is this rising Russian threat across the board that led to increases in defense spending, and those increases started well before Trump even became a candidate for president.

The real danger on the horizon is that Trump’s diplomacy of brag and bash is starting to take a toll on U.S. long-term security, as these repeated assaults on allies during these past six months are weakening bonds of friendship and trust that took decades to build in countries like Germany and South Korea.

Trump officials might think disrupting the status quo is a political plus. But this disruption diplomacy has reached dangerous proportions, and it reflects a fundamental lack of knowledge about what makes the United States so powerful and gives that power long-term stability. American global leadership has been so successful these past 70 years because it is based on worldwide alliances that are voluntary, alliances that are more stable than the empires created by the United Kingdom or Rome because they are not based on invasion, colonization or bribery. One of the incalculable advantages the United States now has in power politics is a result of alliances and basing rights that allow U.S. forces to be deployed all over the world—a capability China and Russia can only imagine.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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Sinds wanneer is anti-homohuwelijk Merkel de leider van de vrije wereld? :?
Ja, sinds wanneer? :?
“Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.”
― C.S. Lewis
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Sinds Trump de complete wereld van zich aan het vervreemden is, met uitzondering van de leiders van S-A, Egypte, Polen en de Filipijnen.
En Israël :)
“Integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching.”
― C.S. Lewis
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Ja, sinds wanneer? :?
Sinds wanneer niet? Vraag je eens af wat de term 'leader of the free world' inhoudt. Het is feitelijk die voorkomt uit de koude oorlog en doelt op Amerikaanse presidenten. Wat dat betreft was Obama eigenlijk de enige 'leader of the free world' die geen tegenstander was van het homohuwelijk. Of dacht je dat Reagan, de Bushes of Bill Clinton groot voorstander waren van het homohuwelijk?
Volkorenbrood: "Geen quotes meer in jullie sigs gaarne."
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En Israël :)
Niet bepaald 'de vrije wereld', in ieder geval.

Eerder een soort alternatieve As van het Kwaad.
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
  Redactie Games vrijdag 7 juli 2017 @ 10:53:40 #224
436761 crew  Puddington
Ja, die nerd!
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[ Bericht 100% gewijzigd door Puddington op 07-07-2017 10:57:16 ]
Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day
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The Republican Backlash Against Trump's Vote-Fraud Commission
GOP secretaries of state have pushed back on a request for voter data, and former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff says it could endanger national security.

Republicans officials and officeholders were, for the most part, not pleased about the rise of Donald Trump as their party’s candidate, but they found themselves powerless to stop his winning the nomination and then the presidency.

Since Trump became president, however, Republicans have become some of his most effective antagonists, stymieing a range of efforts. House members defeated a first attempt at repealing Obamacare; a Senate bill to do the same is looking precarious. (Democrats, although unified in opposition, have played no real role.) Congress has pursued an investigation into Russian interference Trump dislikes, and may strengthen sanctions he wants to lift. And now Republicans are posing a serious challenge to Trump’s ballyhooed election-fraud commission.

But first, let’s back up a step. The board has always looked like a cynical ploy. Stung by his failure to win the popular vote, even as the electoral college gave him the presidency, Trump has insisted that there were 3 to 5 million votes cast by ineligible voters during the presidential election. This number seems to be based on wildly speculative figures produced by an activist named Gregg Phillips.

A clique of conservatives has been warning for years that elections are irreparably tainted by vote fraud, but repeated investigations have failed to turn up meaningful numbers of fraudulent votes. Meanwhile, the laws that many states have passed, requiring photo ID to vote, making it harder to register and vote, and other changes, have disproportionately made it harder for minorities as well as student and the elderly—all Democratic constituencies—to vote. Some federal courts have even ruled that disenfranchising minorities is the goal of such laws.

Caught making baseless claims, Trump announced he would impanel a commission to investigate voter fraud. (This is a favorite move for the president: When he was caught making a baseless claim that Barack Obama had surveilled him, he demanded that intelligence agencies and Congress investigate his flight of fancy, then said the truth would only come out once those inquiries were completed.) The de facto leader of the commission is Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state and one of the most outspoken and successful proponents of the claim of widespread voter fraud.

At the end of June, Kobach made his first big move, requesting all publicly available voter data from the states, including names, addresses, voting history, party affiliation, felony convictions, and the last four digits of Social Security numbers. That’s in keeping with Kobach’s Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program, which has sought to create a database of registered voters across the entire country.

Unsurprisingly, several Democratic state secretaries of state (or their equivalents) immediately rejected the request. More interesting was the response by Republicans officials at the state level. A number of them have also rejected the request either in part or in full, citing taxpayer costs, privacy intrusions, or the fact that they doubt Kobach’s request can do much to stop fraud.

The most colorful response came from Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican.

“My reply would be: They can go jump in the Gulf of Mexico and Mississippi is a great State to launch from,” he said in a statement. “Mississippi residents should celebrate Independence Day and our State’s right to protect the privacy of our citizens by conducting our own electoral processes.”

Other officials said that they were not legally permitted to disclose the data the commission requested. Maryland Secretary of State Luis Borunda, a member of the commission, resigned from the group without explanation. Ari Berman, a progressive journalist who covers voting issues closely, found that 45 states had rejected the request in part or in full.

That prompted a sharp statement from Kobach, issued through the White House press office, on Wednesday:
"In all, 36 states have either agreed or are considering participating with the Commission's work to ensure the integrity of the American electoral system. While there are news reports that 44 states have "refused" to provide voter information to the Commission, these reports are patently false, more "fake news". At present, only 14 states and the District of Columbia have refused the Commission's request for publicly available voter information."

Kobach has a point, as far as it goes: Some states have agreed to provide that portion of the information that Kobach requested which is actually publicly available. But then again, that information is already publicly available. North Carolina’s elections board, for example, made clear that it was releasing information because it was legally obligated to do so, and added that everything it was releasing was already available on its website. (In a moment of unintentional humor, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach had to inform election-panel co-chair Kris Kobach that this state would not hand over Social Security numbers.)

Meanwhile, Michael Chertoff, a Republican who served as secretary of homeland security in the Bush administration, wrote in a Washington Post column on Thursday that Kobach’s attempt to gather so much personal information constitutes a grave threat to national security, because such a database would be vulnerable to hacking. The overall effect has been that Republican officials are creating a major obstacle to the Kobach commission putting together the database it sought.

That shouldn’t pose much of a danger to electoral integrity, though. If there were actually millions of ineligible voters casting ballots, it would have been detected before. A painstaking 2007 Department of Justice search failed to turn it up, as have other investigations. (Philip Bump illustrated the physical implausibility of these claims in October, too.) In-person voter fraud is extremely rare, yet voter-ID laws and databases like Interstate Crosscheck continue to focus on rooting it out. But simply matching names tends to turn up false positives. That’s something Kobach encountered in Kansas: After he dramatically announced that there were nearly 2,000 dead voters on state rolls, newspapers starting finding the alleged dead voters alive and well. Similar names often produce false positive results for fraudulent or duplicative registrations.

Yet that’s precisely what Kobach intended to do with the information he collected for the panel, as Jessica Huseman confirmed: The idea is to run the names collected against federal databases to try to find improper registrations. That would likely produce a raft of false positives; some would be successfully challenged, but other eligible voters might see their registrations erroneously thrown out. Given the history of voter-ID laws and Kobach’s results with previous databases, the cynics can be forgiven for suspecting that was the goal all along.
bron

Verkapte poging tot voter purging dus weer.
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