[AMV] President Trump #282 Healthcare bill

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Forget the House GOP's troubles passing a health care bill. The party's bigger problem looms in the Senate.

Mitch McConnell is being tasked with fixing what GOP senators and House members say is a flawed Obamacare repeal proposal — one with little to no chance of passing in that chamber in its current form — in a week’s time.

The Senate leader and his deputies are nevertheless barreling ahead — assuming a health care bill clears the House Thursday in what’s expected to be a razor-thin vote. Senate leaders say they have a plan to jam through legislation on a party-line vote next week before opposition has time to bubble up.

And they're sticking to it, regardless of the scant level of support right now for the proposal among Senate Republicans.

As currently constructed, conservative and moderate opposition would tank the bill in the Senate, where the GOP can afford to lose only two votes. A handful of skeptical House members are voting for Speaker Paul Ryan’s plan on the assumption it will be improved in the Senate and they’ll get to make a decision when it comes back to the House. And some Republicans believe they're already losing political momentum with the health care debate and want to pull the plug.
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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 13:05 schreef Re het volgende:
Maar wat is nu de procedure als het faalt in huis?

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 13:05 schreef Re het volgende:
Maar wat is nu de procedure als het faalt in huis? Ben even de weg kwijt, reconcilliation van budget was al gedaan toch?

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But here's how the bill can still pass: It's the GOP's last best chance to repeal/replace Obamacare
And the threat of losing that chance — not the threat of losing a congressional seat — could still be a powerful motivating force for opponents and fence-sitters. And for Trump himself, losing health care this week — especially after FBI Director James Comey's declarations on Monday — could be politically catastrophic for him at this stage of his presidency. So never underestimate the chances of people who have A LOT to lose if they don't win.

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 13:32 schreef Dagonet het volgende:

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Dan niks, dan over, uit en verder met belastingverlaging. "we hebben het geprobeerd".

Al lijkt het nu wel behoorlijk te gaan falen,
Gisterochtend waren er 17 Republikeinen fel tegen.

Nu zijn het er 27. Ze kunnen zich maar 21 Republikeinse tegenstemmen veroorloven. Zijn bezoek en gedreig heeft niet veel goeds uitgehaald.

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 13:34 schreef antiderivative het volgende:

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De deadline van morgen is een deadline die de GOP zichzelf gesteld heeft, het is geen harde deadline in dat het absoluut moet. Als men het gevoel heeft dat men niet genoeg ja's heeft in het huis dan zullen ze het waarschijnlijk uitstellen en doorgaan met het werven van stemmen.

De volgorde was House Budget Committee -> House Rules Committee -> House Floor vote

mochten ze hem in stemming brengen en het faalt in het huis, dan zullen ze opnieuw moeten beginnen (denk ik). Zal niet zo'n heel groot probleem zijn, behalve gezichtsverlies.

mochten ze hem in stemming brengen en het is een pass dan gaat het richting de Senaat waar het volgende hoofdpijn-dossier begint.

Waar jij op doelt is volgens mij de 3-phase gang van zaken wat ik al eerder heb gepost, de senate:

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 13:45 schreef Dagonet het volgende:
Mwah, zoals NBC het omschrijft:

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AP Exclusive: Manafort had plan to benefit Putin government

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to advance the interests of Russian President Vladimir Putin a decade ago and proposed an ambitious political strategy to undermine anti-Russian opposition across former Soviet republics, The Associated Press has learned. The work appears to contradict assertions by the Trump administration and Manafort himself that he never worked for Russian interests.

Manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan as early as June 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the United States, Europe and the former Soviet republics to benefit the Putin government, even as U.S.-Russia relations under Republican President George W. Bush grew worse. Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work.

"We are now of the belief that this model can greatly benefit the Putin Government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitment to success," Manafort wrote in the 2005 memo to Deripaska. The effort, Manafort wrote, "will be offering a great service that can re-focus, both internally and externally, the policies of the Putin government."

Manafort's plans were laid out in documents obtained by the AP that included strategy memoranda and records showing international wire transfers for millions of dollars. How much work Manafort performed under the contract was unclear.

The disclosure comes as Trump campaign advisers are the subject of an FBI probe and two congressional investigations. Investigators are reviewing whether the Trump campaign and its associates coordinated with Moscow to meddle in the 2016 campaign. Manafort has dismissed the investigations as politically motivated and misguided, and said he never worked for Russian interests. The documents obtained by AP show Manafort's ties to Russia were closer than previously revealed.

In a statement to the AP, Manafort confirmed that he worked for Deripaska in various countries but said the work was being unfairly cast as "inappropriate or nefarious" as part of a "smear campaign."

"I worked with Oleg Deripaska almost a decade ago representing him on business and personal matters in countries where he had investments," Manafort said. "My work for Mr. Deripaska did not involve representing Russia's political interests."

Deripaska became one of Russia's wealthiest men under Putin, buying assets abroad in ways widely perceived to benefit the Kremlin's interests. U.S. diplomatic cables from 2006 described Deripaska as "among the 2-3 oligarchs Putin turns to on a regular basis" and "a more-or-less permanent fixture on Putin's trips abroad." In response to questions about Manafort's consulting firm, a spokesman for Deripaska in 2008 — at least three years after they began working together — said Deripaska had never hired the firm. Another Deripaska spokesman in Moscow last week declined to answer AP's questions.

When asked Wednesday about Manafort's work for Deripaska, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, "we do not feel it's appropriate to comment on someone who is not an employee at the White House."

Manafort worked as Trump's unpaid campaign chairman last year from March until August. Trump asked Manafort to resign after AP revealed that Manafort had orchestrated a covert Washington lobbying operation until 2014 on behalf of Ukraine's ruling pro-Russian political party.

The newly obtained business records link Manafort more directly to Putin's interests in the region. According to those records and people with direct knowledge of Manafort's work for Deripaska, Manafort made plans to open an office in Moscow, and at least some of Manafort's work in Ukraine was directed by Deripaska, not local political interests there. The Moscow office never opened.

Manafort has been a leading focus of the U.S. intelligence investigation of Trump's associates and Russia, according to a U.S. official. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the investigation were confidential. Meanwhile, federal criminal prosecutors became interested in Manafort's activities years ago as part of a broad investigation to recover stolen Ukraine assets after the ouster of pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych there in early 2014. No U.S. criminal charges have ever been filed in the case.

FBI Director James Comey, in confirming to Congress the federal intelligence investigation this week, declined to say whether Manafort was a target. Manafort's name was mentioned 28 times during the hearing of the House Intelligence Committee, mostly about his work in Ukraine. No one mentioned Deripaska.

On Monday, White House press secretary Sean Spicer had singled out Manafort when asked about possible campaign contacts with Russia. He said Manafort "played a very limited role for a very limited amount of time" in the campaign, even though as Trump's presidential campaign chairman he led it during the crucial run-up to the Republican National Convention.

Manafort and his associates remain in Trump's orbit. Manafort told a colleague this year that he continues to speak with Trump by telephone. Manafort's former business partner in eastern Europe, Rick Gates, has been seen inside the White House on a number of occasions. Gates has since helped plan Trump's inauguration and now runs a nonprofit organization, America First Policies, to back the White House agenda.

Gates, whose name does not appear in the documents, told the AP that he joined Manafort's firm in 2006 and was aware Manafort had a relationship with Deripaska, but he was not aware of the work described in the memos. Gates said his work was focused on domestic U.S. lobbying and political consulting in Ukraine at the time. He said he stopped working for Manafort's firm in March 2016 when he joined Trump's presidential campaign.

Manafort told Deripaska in 2005 that he was pushing policies as part of his work in Ukraine "at the highest levels of the U.S. government — the White House, Capitol Hill and the State Department," according to the documents. He also said he had hired a "leading international law firm with close ties to President Bush to support our client's interests," but he did not identify the firm. Manafort also said he was employing unidentified legal experts for the effort at leading universities and think tanks, including Duke University, New York University and the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Manafort did not disclose details about the lobbying work to the Justice Department during the period the contract was in place.

Under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, people who lobby in the U.S. on behalf of foreign political leaders or political parties must provide detailed reports about their actions to the department. Willfully failing to register is a felony and can result in up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000, though the government rarely files criminal charges.

Deripaska owns Basic Element Co., which employs 200,000 people worldwide in the agriculture, aviation, construction, energy, financial services, insurance and manufacturing industries, and he runs one of the world's largest aluminum companies. Forbes estimated his net worth at $5.2 billion. How much Deripaska paid Manafort in total is not clear, but people familiar with the relationship said money transfers to Manafort amounted to tens of millions of dollars and continued through at least 2009. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the secret payments publicly.

In strategy memos, Manafort proposed that Deripaska and Putin would benefit from lobbying Western governments, especially the U.S., to allow oligarchs to keep possession of formerly state-owned assets in Ukraine. He proposed building "long term relationships" with Western journalists and a variety of measures to improve recruitment, communications and financial planning by pro-Russian parties in the region.

Manafort proposed extending his existing work in eastern Europe to Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Georgia, where he pledged to bolster the legitimacy of governments friendly to Putin and undercut anti-Russian figures through political campaigns, nonprofit front groups and media operations.

For the $10 million contract, Manafort did not use his public-facing consulting firm, Davis Manafort. Instead, he used a company, LOAV Ltd., that he had registered in Delaware in 1992. He listed LOAV as having the same address of his lobbying and consulting firms in Alexandria, Virginia. In other records, LOAV's address was listed as Manafort's home, also in Alexandria. Manafort sold the home in July 2015 for $1.4 million. He now owns an apartment in Trump Tower in New York, as well as other properties in Florida and New York.

One strategy memo to Deripaska was written by Manafort and Rick Davis, his business partner at the time. In written responses to the AP, Davis said he did not know that his firm had proposed a plan to covertly promote the interests of the Russian government.

Davis said he believes Manafort used his name without his permission on the strategy memo. "My name was on every piece of stationery used by the company and in every memo prior to 2006. It does not mean I had anything to do with the memo described," Davis said. He took a leave of absence from the firm in late 2006 to work on John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign.

Manafort's work with Deripaska continued for years, though they had a falling out laid bare in 2014 in a Cayman Islands bankruptcy court. The billionaire gave Manafort nearly $19 million to invest in a Ukrainian TV company called Black Sea Cable, according to legal filings by Deripaska's representatives. It said that after taking the money, Manafort and his associates stopped responding to Deripaska's queries about how the funds had been used.

Early in the 2016 presidential campaign, Deripaska's representatives openly accused Manafort of fraud and pledged to recover the money from him. After Trump earned the nomination, Deripaska's representatives said they would no longer discuss the case.

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 14:11 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Maar hoezo dat dan? Is dit de laatste mogelijkheid op het in stemming brengen van een reconciliation bill voor het budget van het komende jaar oid?

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 15:06 schreef Dagonet het volgende:

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Dit is hun laatste beste kans. Als het het niet haalt zoals het nu is zullen ze steeds meer water bij de wijn moeten gaan doen en hun gedroomde hervormingen steeds meer moeten afzwakken. En als je het niet haalt, terwijl je alle stukken in handen hebt is dat een enorme deuk in je imago, waardoor je nog een stuk zwakker staat.

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US stocks slide on tax reform fears

Posted at 15:17

The Dow Jones industrial average took up where it left off last night - in negative territory.

The index shed 65.40 points to 20,602.61 on concerns that Donald Trump's administration may struggle to deliver on its tax cut and infrastructure spending promises following the difficulty it has faced with its healthcare reforms.

The S&P 500 also continued downwards albeit at a slower pace of 3.69 points at 2,340.33.

The technology-heavy Nasdaq was the only bright(ish) spot. It was trading marginally ahead at 5,794.20.

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 15:24 schreef Ulx het volgende:
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/business-39306570

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Gaat nog leuk worden als het Trump niet eens lukt zijn ACA repeal door te drukken.

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 16:51 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Ik ben benieuwd wie de schuld gaat krijgen als de beurs onderuit gaat.

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op woensdag 22-03-2017 om 14:09:35 Big day for healthcare. Working hard! reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 16:51 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Ik ben benieuwd wie de schuld gaat krijgen als de beurs onderuit gaat.

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 17:07 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op woensdag 22-03-2017 om 14:09:35 Big day for healthcare. Working hard! reageer retweet

Working hard!

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 18:55 schreef vigen98 het volgende:

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politico twitterde op woensdag 22-03-2017 om 18:21:23 #BREAKING: Nunes: Trump transition members were under surveillance during Obama administration… https://t.co/4h0imAotSz reageer retweet

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Nunes said the surveillance appears to have been legal, incidental collection and that it does not appear to have been related to concerns over collusion with Russia

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 18:57 schreef vigen98 het volgende:

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Dus?

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President Donald Trump is losing support among Republicans, white voters and men, leaving him with a negative 37 - 56 percent job approval rating from American voters, his worst score ever, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.

Today's job approval rating compares to a negative 41 - 52 percent approval rating in a March 7 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University.

President Trump is losing support among key elements of his base:
Men disapprove 43 - 52 percent, compared to a 49 - 45 percent approval March 7;
Republicans approve 81 - 14 percent, compared to 91 - 5 percent two weeks ago;
White voters disapprove 44 - 50 percent, compared to a narrow 49 - 45 percent approval March 7.
Disapproval is 60 - 31 percent among women, 90 - 6 percent among Democrats, 60 - 31 percent among independent voters and 75 - 16 percent among non-white voters.

American voters' opinions of some of Trump's personal qualities hit new lows:
60 - 35 percent that he is not honest, compared to 55 - 39 not honest March 7;
55 - 40 percent that he does not have good leadership skills;
57 - 40 percent that he does not care about average Americans;
66 - 30 percent that he is not level-headed;
66 - 30 percent that he is a strong person;
59 - 36 percent that he is intelligent;
61 - 35 percent that he does not share their values.
"Although taking a beating, he keeps on tweeting to the point where even his fiercely loyal base appears to be eroding," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"Most alarming for President Donald Trump, the demographic underpinnings of his support, Republicans, white voters, especially men and those without a college degree, are starting to have doubts."

A total of 73 percent of American voters say President Trump and his Administration make statements without evidence to support them "very often" or "somewhat often."

Only 25 percent of American voters say Trump is more honest than most of the previous presidents, while 48 percent say he is less honest and 24 percent say he is about as honest.

Trump is even with the media, but lower than the courts and intelligence agencies, in winning American voters' trust:
A total of 34 percent of voters say they can trust Trump to do what is right "almost all of the time" or "most of the time;"
A total of 52 percent of voters say they can trust the courts to do what is right "almost all of the time" or "most of the time;"
A total of 51 percent of voters say they can trust U.S. intelligence agencies to do what is right "almost all of the time" or "most of the time;"
A total of 34 percent of voters say they can trust the media to do what is right "almost all of the time" or "most of the time."
Voters give Trump a negative 36 - 57 percent favorability rating, his lowest net score since he was elected.

Trump gets a negative 42 - 48 percent approval rating for the way he is handling the economy, down from a 49 - 41 percent positive score March 7. Opinions on other issues are:
Disapprove 58 - 34 percent of the way he is handling foreign policy;
Disapprove 50 - 42 percent of the way he is handling terrorism;
Disapprove 54 - 34 percent of the way he is handling the federal budget;
Disapprove 60 - 38 percent of the way he is handling immigration issues.
Wiretapping Trump Tower

American voters do not believe 70 - 19 percent that former President Barack Obama had Trump Tower wiretapped during the 2016 presidential election. Republicans are divided as 41 percent believe it and 39 percent don't believe it. Every other party, gender, age, education and racial group listed disbelieves this claim by wide margins.

Trump "truly believes" the wiretapping claim, 48 percent of voters say, while 42 percent say he does not believe it.

From March 16 - 21, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,056 voters nationwide with a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points. Live interviewers call landlines and cell phones.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, Iowa, Colorado and the nation as a public service and for research.

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 20:01 schreef Ulx het volgende:
En Mathis ligt onder vuur omdat hij democraten in zijn team haalt.

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CNBCnow twitterde op woensdag 22-03-2017 om 20:30:07 JUST IN: Trump tells reporters he feels "somewhat" vindicated by Nunes' briefing regarding surveillance.… https://t.co/BJ6ask8Kkx reageer retweet

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want die is bedreigd door de Deep State

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 20:40 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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The Alex Jones Show - N.Korea Accelerating 'First Strike' Nuke Program - 03/22/2017

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 20:44 schreef Nintex het volgende:

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Stone live met zijn wise guy suit

The Alex Jones Show - N.Korea Accelerating 'First Strike' Nuke Program - 03/22/2017

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 20:55 schreef PippenScottie het volgende:
Iemand een goed artikel/Twitter account/site waar ik meer info kan vinden over die persco van Nunes?

Hij was zelf onderdeel van Trumps transitieteam, dus mogelijk is hij zelf onderwerp van onderzoek. Kan hij nog wel aanblijven alles voorzitter van zijn commissie?
Is hij nu ook niet over een lopend onderzoek aan het lekken?
En waarom deze info delen met het Witte Huis? Zij zijn toch juist verdachte in deze zaak?

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 20:39 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Roger Stone heeft het nu van Alex Jones overgenomen op InfoWars, want die is bedreigd door de Deep State.

Eerste vraag: "Why can't we arrest all these traitors who are trying to harm the president and throw them in jail"

Stone: "Because we have a constitution"

In ieder geval wel duidelijk waar Team Trump op uit is.

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CNBCnow twitterde op woensdag 22-03-2017 om 20:30:07 JUST IN: Trump tells reporters he feels "somewhat" vindicated by Nunes' briefing regarding surveillance.… https://t.co/BJ6ask8Kkx reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 20:55 schreef PippenScottie het volgende:
Iemand een goed artikel/Twitter account/site waar ik meer info kan vinden over die persco van Nunes?

Hij was zelf onderdeel van Trumps transitieteam, dus mogelijk is hij zelf onderwerp van onderzoek. Kan hij nog wel aanblijven alles voorzitter van zijn commissie?
Is hij nu ook niet over een lopend onderzoek aan het lekken?
En waarom deze info delen met het Witte Huis? Zij zijn toch juist verdachte in deze zaak?

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 21:10 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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Trump gaat dit proberen te gebruiken om aan te tonen dat hij toch echt goed zat met zijn tweet

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2017 20:55 schreef PippenScottie het volgende:
Iemand een goed artikel/Twitter account/site waar ik meer info kan vinden over die persco van Nunes?

Hij was zelf onderdeel van Trumps transitieteam, dus mogelijk is hij zelf onderwerp van onderzoek. Kan hij nog wel aanblijven alles voorzitter van zijn commissie?
Is hij nu ook niet over een lopend onderzoek aan het lekken?
En waarom deze info delen met het Witte Huis? Zij zijn toch juist verdachte in deze zaak?