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Dat lijkt me geen wilde gok, zolang er geen bewijs gepresenteerd wordt. Het is nogal niet niks waar Trump Obama van beschuldigd...
Ik las ook al stukken waarin men betoogde dat dit grond voor impeachment zou kunnen zijn, maar dat lijkt me wat vergezocht.
“I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative. I believe that to be so obvious and undeniable a fact that I hardly think any hon. Gentleman will question it.“
  maandag 6 maart 2017 @ 23:36:39 #202
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White House does not know if alleged surveillance of Trump was by wiretap

The White House has admitted that Donald Trump does not know what type of surveillance he is alleging he was put under by Barack Obama, despite a tweet on Saturday explicitly saying his phone was tapped.

Sean Spicer, the president’s press secretary, argued that there is “substantial reporting” to show the issue merits congressional investigation, but did not identify Trump’s sources.

Trump alleged, without citing evidence, that Obama ordered a wiretap of the phones at Trump’s election campaign headquarters in Trump Tower in New York. “How low has President Obama gone to tapp [sic] my phones during the very sacred election process,” he tweeted early on Saturday morning. “This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!”

Previous media reports have suggested that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (Fisa) court granted a warrant to enable the FBI to conduct surveillance of “US persons” in an investigation of possible contacts between Russian banks and the Trump Organization.

The Guardian reported that the FBI applied for a Fisa warrant over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus.

According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation.

On Sunday, Obama’s director of national intelligence, James Clapper, denied any such court order was obtained.

But Spicer told reporters on Monday: “It could be Fisa, it could be surveillance. I think he’s [Trump] made clear that there are continued reports that have been out there. I think the president made it clear yesterday that he wants Congress to go in and look at this. I think there is substantial reporting out there from individuals and from sources.”

The White House asked the Republican-led Congress to examine, as part of an ongoing investigation into Russia’s interference in last November’s election, whether the Obama administration abused its authority.

But Spicer admitted he could not be more specific about what the abuse might have been. “I think that there’s no question that something happened. The question is, is it surveillance, is it a wiretap, or whatever?

“But there has been enough reporting that strongly suggests that something occurred and I think that’s why what he has said yesterday is that he wants Congress to look into this. And I think that there is enough out there now that makes one wonder how some of this happened without the existence of surveillance.”

A journalist attempted to press the issue further but Spicer interrupted him and said: “I’m going to put a pin in this.”

He added later: “The president speaks very candidly. His tweets speak for themselves.”

Trump’s early Saturday morning tweets – an extraordinary charge by an incumbent president against a predecessor – came shortly after similar claims were made by a conservative radio host, later summarised by the rightwing Breitbart News.

Pressed specifically on whether Trump based his accusations on a radio host, Spicer said: “He is not going to comment any further on this,” but added there were “numerous” reports, including one in the New York Times and “several sources brought this to light”.

Minutes earlier Spicer had railed against the media for basing reports about possible contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia on anonymous sources. “At some point I would ask people to take on-the-record sources.”

Trump would also ask Congress to look into the issue of “pervasive leaks” of classified information relating to national security, he added.

Asked if Trump had spoken to Obama before making the accusation, or indeed whether he had spoken to Obama since moving into the Oval Office, Spicer replied: “I’m not aware of whether or not they’ve talked. I can ask and get back to you.”

James Comey, the director of the FBI, asked the justice department to reject the president’s assertion because it was false and must be corrected, according to the New York Times and other media reports. The department has remained silent.

Spicer was questioned over whether Trump had spoken to Comey. “To the best of my knowledge, I’m almost 100% certain he has not,” he said. “I am not aware that actually happened.”

Leading Republicans have said they will honour the president’s request to investigate but conceded that they are not aware of any evidence for the president’s assertion.

On Monday Jason Chaffetz, chairman of the House oversight and government reform committee, told CBS: “Thus far, I have not seen anything directly that would support what the president has said.”

Chaffetz added that it would take time for a House intelligence panel investigating the alleged Russia links to get to the bottom of the wiretapping allegation and that his committee would play a supporting role in this.

Meanwhile Chuck Schumer, the Democratic minority leader in the Senate, called on the Department of Justice’s inspector general to investigate any possible political interference in its inquiries into contacts between Trump’s associates and Russia.

“The American people deserve to know if the investigation into Russia’s interference with our election and the administration’s contact with Russian officials has been compromised by political interference,” Schumer said.

“As we saw last week – when attorney general Sessions only decided to recuse himself after his misleading Congress regarding Russia contacts became public – this administration has not been forthcoming about its contacts with Russia, and are too slow to follow DoJ guidelines designed to ensure investigations are fair and independent.”

Schumer added: “We need to ensure that the investigation is impartial, and hasn’t already been compromised in any way by the Trump administration. That’s why I’m calling on the inspector general to get involved immediately.”

Fellow Democrat Nancy Pelosi, minority leader in the House, has accused Trump of behaving like an autocrat. “It’s called a wrap-up smear,” she said. “You make up something. Then you have the press write about it. And then you say, everybody is writing about this charge. It’s a tool of an authoritarian.”
  maandag 6 maart 2017 @ 23:40:58 #203
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Bij jou werkt https://www.theguardian.com/ momenteel wel?
Ja :Y
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  maandag 6 maart 2017 @ 23:45:07 #204
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Ik las ook al stukken waarin men betoogde dat dit grond voor impeachment zou kunnen zijn, maar dat lijkt me wat vergezocht.
Ik ben niet zo thuis in wanneer er wel en niet impeached kan worden om eerlijk te zijn. Maar het lijkt mij ook vergezocht. Een smaadzaak dan weer niet. Al denk ik niet dat Obama dat - op dit moment - reeds serieus overweegt.

En beschuldigt moet het zijn in de aangehaalde post :@
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  maandag 6 maart 2017 @ 23:48:05 #205
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Hier is het hele artikel:

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Thx, is inmiddels geladen, na 10 minuten. maar de site blijft erg traag...
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  maandag 6 maart 2017 @ 23:52:47 #206
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Thx, is inmiddels geladen, na 10 minuten. maar de site blijft erg traag...
Vreemde zaak, werkt hier prima.
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Vreemde zaak, werkt hier prima.
met private browsing werkt het ook prima. Nochtans heb ik adblock disabled op de guardian website, weet niet wat het verschil dan kan zijn..

nevermind, browser heropgestart, werkt nu normaal.
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Zelfs Samuel L Jackson gaat zich er nu mee bemoeien

SamuelLJackson twitterde op maandag 06-03-2017 om 22:04:38 OK!! Ben Carson....I can't! Immigrants ? In the bottom of SLAVE SHIPS??!! MUTHAFUKKA PLEASE!!!#dickheadedtom reageer retweet
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  dinsdag 7 maart 2017 @ 00:06:12 #210
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Zelfs Samuel L Jackson gaat zich er nu mee bemoeien

SamuelLJackson twitterde op maandag 06-03-2017 om 22:04:38 OK!! Ben Carson....I can't! Immigrants ? In the bottom of SLAVE SHIPS??!! MUTHAFUKKA PLEASE!!!#dickheadedtom reageer retweet
En terecht. Carson doet idiote uitspraken en mag daar best tegengas op krijgen.
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Voor de zoveelste keer; we tolereren hier geen bronnen die fake-nieuws verspreiden.
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  dinsdag 7 maart 2017 @ 00:28:51 #212
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VS en Japan vragen om spoedoverleg Veiligheidsraad VN inzake Noord-Korea http://www.nu.nl/noord-ko(...)leg-noord-korea.html
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realDonaldTrump twitterde op maandag 06-03-2017 om 22:19:04 'President Trump Congratulates Exxon Mobil for Job-Creating Investment Program'https://t.co/adBzWhtq8S reageer retweet
Ik denk dat Donald even wat aan zijn geografische kennis moet doen :D

http://www.ogj.com/articl(...)gapore-refinery.html

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ExxonMobil plans expansion at Singapore refinery
en wie meer dan alleen de headline van Turmp's persbericht leest:

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Investments began in 2013 and are expected to continue through at least 2022.
Dank je wel Obama. voor al die investeringen aan de Amerikaanse zuidkust waarvan de FID al in 2013 genomen.
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Ik denk dat Donald even wat aan zijn geografische kennis moet doen :D

http://www.ogj.com/articl(...)gapore-refinery.html

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en wie meer dan alleen de headline van Turmp's persbericht leest:

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Dank je wel Obama. voor al die investeringen aan de Amerikaanse zuidkust waarvan de FID al in 2013 genomen.
Klopt! Het is weer pronken met Obama's veren :|W

Trump touts Exxon Mobil investment in Gulf Coast

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President Trump congratulated and thanked Exxon Mobil Monday for a major expansion in the Gulf Coast region, casting the energy company's existing plans for investment as an indication that his agenda is meeting with success.

"This is exactly the kind of investment, economic development and job creation that will help put Americans back to work," Trump said in a statement released by the White House in response to Exxon Mobil CEO Darren Woods discussing the company's plans for $20 billion in new investments earlier in the day.

On Twitter, the president thanked the company and remarked: "We are already winning again, America!"

At a conference in Houston Monday, according to Exxon Mobil, Woods highlighted plans to invest in 11 chemical, refining, lubricant and liquefied natural gas projects on the Gulf Coast in Texas and Louisiana. He also said the projects would create 45,000 jobs paying an average of $100,000.

While Trump sought to tie the news to his administration's promises to create jobs, the 10-year investment plan began in 2013, before he took office.
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Woensdag moet het stemvee de repeal van ACA goedkeuren.
Kennelijk is de bill gereleased, maar wel zonder cijfers :)
http://bigstory.ap.org/ar(...)ng-obama-health-care

Ik neem aan dat nog wel een linkje naar het concrete voorstel online komt, kennelijk is het allemaal heel helder en onbelangrijk, want een dagje voor lezen en reflectie is wel voldoende. Het moet er doorgeduwd worden.

/Oh en inclusief alvast een tax cut for the rich. Stiekum meegenomen.
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Voor de zoveelste keer; we tolereren hier geen bronnen die fake-nieuws verspreiden.
Welke zijn dat ? Wie bepaald dat ?

Ik zie hier anders zat links/sites die bijv een foutieve foto van Donald zen inaguratie hebben getoond. Zijn dat dan geen verspreiders van fake news?
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Welke zijn dat ? Wie bepaald dat ?

Ik zie hier anders zat links/sites die bijv een foutieve foto van Donald zen inaguratie hebben getoond. Zijn dat dan geen verspreiders van fake news?
Dat bepalen wij bij geheime stemming, uiteraard.

Vraag het een mod persoonlijk even?
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Klopt! Het is weer pronken met Obama's veren :|W

Trump touts Exxon Mobil investment in Gulf Coast

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mwa...
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While Trump sought to tie the news to his administration's promises to create jobs, the 10-year investment plan began in 2013, before he took office.
Dat staat ook in het persbericht van het Witte Huis: https://www.whitehouse.go(...)-creating-investment
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mwa...

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Dat staat ook in het persbericht van het Witte Huis: https://www.whitehouse.go(...)-creating-investment
Het punt is alleen dat de indruk gewekt wordt dat deze investering er komt dankzij de Trump-administratie.

Trump claims credit for ExxonMobil investment plan launched four years ago

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The White House and ExxonMobil were in sync Monday. Some might even call it mind-meld.

In a press release, ExxonMobil highlighted the oil giant's plan to spend $20 billion over ten years, build 11 chemical and natural gas projects and create 45,000 jobs. Within the same hour, the White House put out its own statement claiming credit for the expansion and adding: "The spirit of optimism sweeping the country is already boosting job growth, and it is only the beginning."

One full paragraph appeared nearly identically word-for-word in each release. Another sentence appeared almost verbatim elsewhere.

The White House release quoted President Donald Trump saying that ExxonMobil's investment plan "is exactly the kind of investment, economic development and job creation that will help put Americans back to work."

But Exxon's investment plan was launched in 2013 -- four years ago. And while the White House was hailing the investment program by ExxonMobil and talked about Trump's "promise to bring back jobs to America," General Motors on Monday announced the layoff of 1,100 workers in Michigan.

Some oil analysts were not impressed. "There is nothing new or newsworthy here," said Pavel Molchanov, energy analyst with the investment firm Raymond James. "At the risk of stating the obvious, plenty of companies, across various industries, have been touting their U.S. job creation efforts in order to get on the Trump administration's good side -- even when the underlying job creation has little or nothing to do with Washington policy. This is simply the latest example of that."

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mwa, twee verschillende verhalen, tenzij Trump's adviseurs in Trump tower logeerden. Werd trouwens enkel gezegd dat ze intercepts hadden, niet wiens communicatie men onderschepte (de Russen of Trump's team).
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mwa, twee verschillende verhalen, tenzij Trump's adviseurs in Trump tower logeerden. Werd trouwens enkel gezegd dat ze intercepts hadden, niet wiens communicatie men onderschepte (de Russen of Trump's team).
Van de notoire Trump haters had ik zo'n bericht verwacht. Niet van jou. Ik heb vannacht Hannity gezien. Als de GOP nu eens net zoveel ballen had als de DNC met Nixon had je Obamagate, veel erger dan Watergate
Atheisten geloven het ongelooflijkste
  dinsdag 7 maart 2017 @ 06:58:21 #222
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Hij blijft maar tweeten over JOBS, JOBS, JOBS... Probeert hij zichzelf te overtuigen ofzo?
En dan dat geblaat over een golf van optimisme die door het land waart omdat the Donald himself jobs regelt voor de Amerikanen... :|W
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  dinsdag 7 maart 2017 @ 07:03:17 #223
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http://www.nu.nl/media/45(...)ven-persifleren.html

Alec Baldwin krijgt genoeg vh persifleren van Trump. En dat is geen compliment voor Trump...
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  dinsdag 7 maart 2017 @ 07:06:14 #224
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http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)angen-obamacare.html

Nog een artikeltje over het repealen van "Obamacare".
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  dinsdag 7 maart 2017 @ 07:14:30 #225
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Van de notoire Trump haters had ik zo'n bericht verwacht. Niet van jou. Ik heb vannacht Hannity gezien. Als de GOP nu eens net zoveel ballen had als de DNC met Nixon had je Obamagate, veel erger dan Watergate
Maar de Democraten hebben toch al aangeboden samen met de GOP alles te gaan onderzoeken. De hele santenkraam, compleet met verhoren onder ede.
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