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Hoe zou het nog erger kunnen?quote:Op maandag 23 januari 2017 08:52 schreef Typisch het volgende:
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Obama, man van het volk en transparantie.
Niet dat Trump een haar beter gaat zijn. Waarschijnlijk nog erger qua massa surveillance e.d.
Emotionele exclusiviteit monogamie-adept
Hangt er van af, denk ik. De protesten op vrijdag misschien, die op zaterdag niet.quote:Op maandag 23 januari 2017 08:49 schreef Kaneelstokje het volgende:
Ik lees net dat de 230 mensen die gearresteerd zijn bij de protesten een straf kunnen krijgen tot 10 jaar.
Dit dankzij een regel die Obama vorig jaar heeft ingevoerd.
Het is een lastig verhaal. Je kan onder die wet tien jaar krijgen als je óf een dodelijk/gevaarlijk wapen bij je hebt, of iemand 'significant bodily injury' hebt toegebracht. Ik heb alleen een paar klappen gezien bij de protesten zaterdag, die vallen daar niet onder.
Buiten dat blijft de vraag natuurlijk of het protest überhaupt onder deze wet valt. Die geldt namelijk op het moment dat mensen op 'restricted grounds' komen, en aangezien het protest een dag na de inauguratie was denk ik dat ze rustig op die plek mogen zijn. Het is gewoon openbaar gebied natuurlijk.
Op vrijdag zullen ze het dan gooien op het verstoring van een overheidsceremonie, dus dan zullen ze onder onder de wet vallen. Dan moet je vervolgens dus aantonen dat ze een wapen hebben of zwaar geweld gebruikten tegen mensen, anders krijgen ze een boete / maximaal een jaar.
Hoeren neuken, nooit meer werken.
De kandidaten voor voor het voorzitterschap van de Dem. partij waren trouwens druk met iets anders, via reporter New York Times:quote:
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Alsof Sanders over 4 jaar mee gaat doen. Daarnaast was het een Women March, daar had Clinton best kunnen opduiken en wat zeggen. Trump klaagt toch overal over.
Oh en Romney hebben we niet gezien deze campagne? McCain is ook gestopt met de politiek? Paul Ryan is niet de speaker of the house? etc.
twitter:maggieNYT twitterde op zondag 22-01-2017 om 23:10:33 During largest grassroots movement Dems have had in years, most of the candidates to be chair were at an exclusive donor retreat. reageer retweet
During largest grassroots movement Dems have had in years, most of the candidates to be chair were at an exclusive donor retreat. 
"Marco Rubio is a choke artist, sweating all over the place. He was soaking wet, like he just came out of a swimming pool. We can't have that as a president". -Donald Trump
misschien word het ook wel tijd dat de Democraten gaan vernieuwen. Trump paste ook niet echt bij de Republikeinen, een jongere versie van Bernie zou niet verkeerd zijn.
https://www.nytimes.com/2(...)-of-empty-desks.html
Goh, wie had dat verwacht, Trump de grote zakenman is totaal niet efficient of doelmatig bezig.
Goh, wie had dat verwacht, Trump de grote zakenman is totaal niet efficient of doelmatig bezig.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
De strijd tussen het kabinet van Trump en de federale ambtenaren gaat ook nog wel een interessante worden de komende vier jaar.
http://www.politico.com/s(...)t-bureaucrats-234019quote:Revenge of the bureaucrats
Federal workers fume over Trump's vows to freeze hiring and shrink the government.
President Donald Trump is setting himself up for a messy clash with the country’s 2.1 million federal employees as his administration quietly preps plans to cut the size of the government workforce.
As one of his first acts, Trump is expected to sign an executive order this week freezing most federal hiring. His team is also fine-tuning plans to shrink several agencies focused on domestic policy, according to sources close to the transition.
Now, though, the president is about to find out how much power these maligned workers have to slow or even short-circuit his agenda.
Disgruntled employees can leak information to Capitol Hill and the press, and prod inspectors general to probe political appointees. They can also use the tools of bureaucracy to slow or sandbag policy proposals — moves that can overtly, or passive aggressively, unravel a White House’s best-laid plans.
“The government is a place where it is easier to keep something from getting done, than it is to actually do something,” said Robert Shea, an official in George W. Bush’s Office of Management and Budget. “All of the work that the new administration wants to get accomplished will depend on the speed and productivity of the federal workforce.”
The Trump personnel team led by Kay Coles James and Linda Springer, both also Bush alumni, has broad goals to reduce the size of domestic agencies while slightly bolstering the defense workforce, say sources close to the transition. Aides are also mulling a process, known as “reduction in force,” that would allow the new administration to skirt the civil service’s complicated rules for hiring and firing.
The easiest way to make such reductions might be through budget cuts to each agency, which would be outlined in Trump’s first budget proposal this spring, say former senior government human resources officials who did not have first-hand knowledge of the administration’s plans. The Trump team did not respond to requests for comment.
The reality is it’s far harder to shrink the federal workforce than it is to slash staff at, say, the Trump Organization. Thousands of federal workers belong to powerful unions that can mobilize their representatives in Congress. And almost two thirds of them work for defense and security-related agencies, according to the nonpartisan Partnership for Public Service — areas of the government that Trump promised not to touch during the campaign.
Ostracizing the massive federal workforce comes with its own political perils. The vast majority — about 85 percent — are based outside of Washington, D.C., meaning Trump could anger workers all over the country, including in key battleground states.
Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan tried to reduce the size of the workforce with hiring freezes. But despite isolated victories, such as Reagan’s vanquishing of the air traffic controllers union, most of those efforts failed to produce lasting change. The first two years of Reagan’s presidency saw a reduction in federal jobs, but they actually increased over the course of his tenure.
And contrary to Republican claims, the number of federal workers actually dropped during Obama's eight years in office, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Unions representing federal workers are already railing against Trump's proposals — and they are counting on whistleblower laws to protect employees who raise red flags about his administration's activities.
“Clearly, they have the right to speak up and speak out,” Jeffrey David Cox, the national president of the American Federation of Government Employees, the largest federal employee union, said of federal workers. “They have First Amendment rights.”
A massive reduction in the federal workforce could also result in a greater reliance on contractors, which could cost taxpayers even more money, Cox said. “If President Trump is serious about draining the swamp, he’d certainly take a stance against big contractors,” he added.
Cox, like others interviewed for this story, noted that most career federal employees are used to the political changing of the guard and they take their role as nonpartisan government overseers seriously.
“Federal employees get up and go to work and they do what they’re told to do,” he said. “They don’t drive the train. They stoke the furnace. ...They keep the train on the track.”
Another federal employee put it this way: “You give your absolute best opinion and then, absent unethical or illegal behavior, if it’s decided there’s a better way, then OK, you work with that too.”
Still, many federal workers admit they are freaked out — demoralized by their portrayal as part of the DC “swamp” and anxious about being asked to dismantle rules and regulations they’ve labored over for years.
“What I am hearing from federal employees is a degree of apprehension that I have not heard since the Reagan transition,” said Jeffrey Neal, who ran human resources for Homeland Security’s 190,000 employees in the last job of his 33-year-long government career.
"For some of them, it’s PTSD — 'Oh my God, is that what we’re going back to?'" said one former Obama administration official. “They’re scared.”
Federal workers are also concerned that Trump may get support for gutting civil service protections from the Republican-controlled Congress. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) is pushing a legislative package that would make it easier to fire federal workers, among other things. And House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has said he broadly supports overhauling civil service rules.
Earlier this month, House Republicans quietly resurrected an 1876 rule that would allow them — with the sign-off of a majority of both the House and Senate — to use spending legislation to reduce the salary of an individual government employee, a move that infuriated union members.
“They’re basically creating an environment of fear within the government,” one career federal worker told POLITICO. “In creating that culture of fear, it’s probably going to suppress some of the people from standing up to the administration.”
Faced with an uncertain future, some career civil servants are debating whether to stick around.
“If they’re close to retirement, they’ll probably just leave,” said a career EPA employee.
That employee expects those who stay to fight actions they deem ill-advised or illegal by quietly providing information of what is happening inside their agencies to advocacy groups and the media.
“It was very typical during the Reagan administration for somebody to stick something in a manila envelope and take it to the Post Office and mail something to the National Wildlife Federation,” the employee said.
But one career Justice Department employee, who came aboard during the Obama era, said that no civil service workers have left for other jobs yet. “The job market for Democrats in D.C. is really tight now,” the DOJ worker said. “I don’t know how many people in my office are staying because they don’t have anywhere to go.”
Even without an adversarial White House, the federal government would face a nearly unprecedented brain drain. Two-thirds of career employees in senior leadership positions are eligible for retirement in the next few years, and by 2018, 30 percent of all career federal employees will be eligible, according to a 2015 GAO report.
Former political appointees said career service workers offer invaluable government experience to a new administration.
"You want to know what they know,” said Lisa Brown, who served as the White House staff secretary at the beginning of the Obama administration. “You want them to come to you and say, ‘we’ve tried this before and here’s why it didn’t work.
When Obama took office, career employees walked Obama’s political appointees through key rules and procedures on everything from disaster relief to sending nominations to the Senate.
"None of us knew how that worked,” she said. We would have totally bollixed that up."
Volkorenbrood: "Geen quotes meer in jullie sigs gaarne."
agenda voor vandaag:
o.a. Andrew Liveris (CEO Dow Chemical Company) komt langs. Hij gaat overigens een "advisory panel on manufacturing" leiden waarin verschillende CEO's plaats gaan nemen. Vergelijkbaar met de andere specifieke groepen die er al waren waarin o.a. CEO's van Google, Tesla, GM etc. Trump adviseren.
o.a. Andrew Liveris (CEO Dow Chemical Company) komt langs. Hij gaat overigens een "advisory panel on manufacturing" leiden waarin verschillende CEO's plaats gaan nemen. Vergelijkbaar met de andere specifieke groepen die er al waren waarin o.a. CEO's van Google, Tesla, GM etc. Trump adviseren.
"Marco Rubio is a choke artist, sweating all over the place. He was soaking wet, like he just came out of a swimming pool. We can't have that as a president". -Donald Trump
twitter:moorehn twitterde op maandag 23-01-2017 om 13:12:45 Day 3 of a Trump presidency: generals may be wondering if it's time for America's first military coup.… https://t.co/PQz9TWBGaj reageer retweet
Day 3 of a Trump presidency: generals may be wondering if it's time for America's first military coup.… 
Deuger & Gutmensch
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."
Volgens een Rep. connectie zijn dit de onderwerpen van de Executive Orders die in de pijplijn zitten, via Axios:
• Look for a possible hiring freeze at executive branch
• 5-year lobbying ban on transition and administration officials
• Mexico City policy, which prevents foreign NGOs from getting U.S. family planning money if they provide abortions with non-U.S. funds. (It's already illegal to use U.S dollars on abortions.)
• Task the Defense Secretary and joint chiefs to come up with plan to eviscerate ISIS
• Report on readiness, and something cyber security related
• Border/immigration: Something on sanctuary cities, expand E-Verify, an extreme vetting proposal
• Trade: Withdraw from TPP and a thorough review of NAFTA
What else we're hearing: The Mexico City executive order could come as soon as today. Also, watch for dozens of EPA executive orders coming down the pike. Says a Trump source: "EPA has clean water-related and some 30,000 foot regulatory ones lined up [immediately]...We have dozens for the EPA...Starting Monday through the month of February. We have to roll them out gradually."
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We zullen zien.
• Look for a possible hiring freeze at executive branch
• 5-year lobbying ban on transition and administration officials
• Mexico City policy, which prevents foreign NGOs from getting U.S. family planning money if they provide abortions with non-U.S. funds. (It's already illegal to use U.S dollars on abortions.)
• Task the Defense Secretary and joint chiefs to come up with plan to eviscerate ISIS
• Report on readiness, and something cyber security related
• Border/immigration: Something on sanctuary cities, expand E-Verify, an extreme vetting proposal
• Trade: Withdraw from TPP and a thorough review of NAFTA
What else we're hearing: The Mexico City executive order could come as soon as today. Also, watch for dozens of EPA executive orders coming down the pike. Says a Trump source: "EPA has clean water-related and some 30,000 foot regulatory ones lined up [immediately]...We have dozens for the EPA...Starting Monday through the month of February. We have to roll them out gradually."
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We zullen zien.
"Marco Rubio is a choke artist, sweating all over the place. He was soaking wet, like he just came out of a swimming pool. We can't have that as a president". -Donald Trump
Hij kan het prima waarmaken, maar dan moeten het VK en Zweden hem laten gaan.quote:
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Ah interessant.
Dus Assange heeft iets beloofd wat hij niet waar kon maken, vervolgens wel de overwinning geclaimed?
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
Oh, something cyber related..ja, want cyber is hard!quote:
Volgens een Rep. connectie zijn dit de onderwerpen van de Executive Orders die in de pijplijn zitten, via Axios:
• Look for a possible hiring freeze at executive branch
• 5-year lobbying ban on transition and administration officials
• Mexico City policy, which prevents foreign NGOs from getting U.S. family planning money if they provide abortions with non-U.S. funds. (It's already illegal to use U.S dollars on abortions.)
• Task the Defense Secretary and joint chiefs to come up with plan to eviscerate ISIS
• Report on readiness, and something cyber security related
• Border/immigration: Something on sanctuary cities, expand E-Verify, an extreme vetting proposal
• Trade: Withdraw from TPP and a thorough review of NAFTA
What else we're hearing: The Mexico City executive order could come as soon as today. Also, watch for dozens of EPA executive orders coming down the pike. Says a Trump source: "EPA has clean water-related and some 30,000 foot regulatory ones lined up [immediately]...We have dozens for the EPA...Starting Monday through the month of February. We have to roll them out gradually."
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We zullen zien.
Extreme vetting! JAAAAAAAAAAAA, live op TV vrij naar The Apprentice!
5 year lobbying ban maar Lewandowski mag een lobby took opzetten en dat omzeilen, natuurlijk, da's alleen voor de losers die ban.
Possible hiring freeze? Nou, die is er al, hij heeft nog geen fractie van de staf en benoemingen die hij nodig heeft. Welgeteld 2 goedgekeurd tot op heden.
Oh, en dezelfde incompetente generals (Trump uitspraak) kunnen nu ineens wel een plan opstellen wat ISIS onderuit haalt? Leuk.
Verder veel something something en WTF is een Rep. connectie?
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
1:30 weer een press briefing, dat is toch wel het hoogtepuntje van de dag zolang Spicer er zit.
Hoeren neuken, nooit meer werken.
Zou Sean Spicer nu wel vragen gaan beantwoorden?quote:Op maandag 23 januari 2017 14:41 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:
1:30 weer een press briefing, dat is toch wel het hoogtepuntje van de dag zolang Spicer er zit.
Over de laatste:quote:
Volgens een Rep. connectie zijn dit de onderwerpen van de Executive Orders die in de pijplijn zitten, via Axios:
• Look for a possible hiring freeze at executive branch
• 5-year lobbying ban on transition and administration officials
• Mexico City policy, which prevents foreign NGOs from getting U.S. family planning money if they provide abortions with non-U.S. funds. (It's already illegal to use U.S dollars on abortions.)
• Task the Defense Secretary and joint chiefs to come up with plan to eviscerate ISIS
• Report on readiness, and something cyber security related
• Border/immigration: Something on sanctuary cities, expand E-Verify, an extreme vetting proposal
• Trade: Withdraw from TPP and a thorough review of NAFTA
What else we're hearing: The Mexico City executive order could come as soon as today. Also, watch for dozens of EPA executive orders coming down the pike. Says a Trump source: "EPA has clean water-related and some 30,000 foot regulatory ones lined up [immediately]...We have dozens for the EPA...Starting Monday through the month of February. We have to roll them out gradually."
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We zullen zien.
twitter:JDiamond1 twitterde op maandag 23-01-2017 om 13:55:39 NEWS: President Trump to withdraw from TPP today via executive action, a senior WH official tells me. reageer retweet
NEWS: President Trump to withdraw from TPP today via executive action, a senior WH official tells me.
"Marco Rubio is a choke artist, sweating all over the place. He was soaking wet, like he just came out of a swimming pool. We can't have that as a president". -Donald Trump
Wat denk je zelf?quote:
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Zou Sean Spicer nu wel vragen gaan beantwoorden?
Hoeren neuken, nooit meer werken.
Ik denk niet dat die man ooit een vraag gaat beantwoorden. Die is aangenomen om zijn bagger over de pers uit te storten, en daarna loopt hij weer weg.quote:
Op
Dat lijkt mij een bijzonder nauwkeurige inschatting van zijn functie-omschrijving, inderdaad.quote:
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Ik denk niet dat die man ooit een vraag gaat beantwoorden. Die is aangenomen om zijn bagger over de pers uit te storten, en daarna loopt hij weer weg.
Hoeren neuken, nooit meer werken.
Elon Musk komt net aan, hij zal dus ook onderdeel van deze specifieke groep worden.quote:
agenda voor vandaag:
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o.a. Andrew Liveris (CEO Dow Chemical Company) komt langs. Hij gaat overigens een "advisory panel on manufacturing" leiden waarin verschillende CEO's plaats gaan nemen. Vergelijkbaar met de andere specifieke groepen die er al waren waarin o.a. CEO's van Google, Tesla, GM etc. Trump adviseren.
"Marco Rubio is a choke artist, sweating all over the place. He was soaking wet, like he just came out of a swimming pool. We can't have that as a president". -Donald Trump
quote:
1:30 weer een press briefing, dat is toch wel het hoogtepuntje van de dag zolang Spicer er zit.
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
Mensen, meer dan een grappig plaatje of een YouTube-filmpje droppen is hier gewenst.
Het is hier geen slowchat.
Het is hier geen slowchat.
Power is a lot like real estate, it's all about location, location, location.
The closer you are to the source, the higher your property value.
The closer you are to the source, the higher your property value.
+quote:
agenda voor vandaag:
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o.a. Andrew Liveris (CEO Dow Chemical Company) komt langs. Hij gaat overigens een "advisory panel on manufacturing" leiden waarin verschillende CEO's plaats gaan nemen. Vergelijkbaar met de andere specifieke groepen die er al waren waarin o.a. CEO's van Google, Tesla, GM etc. Trump adviseren.
Elon Musk (Founder, CEO, SpaceX, Tesla)
Kevin Plank (Founder, CEO, Chairman of Under Armour)
Mark Fields (President, CEO of Ford Motor Company)
Michael Dell (Founder, CEO of Dell Technologies)
Jeff Fettig (CEO, Chairman of Whirlpool)
Alex Gorsky (CEO of Johnson & Johnson)
Marillyn Hewson (Chairwoman, President, CEO of Lockheed Martin)
Klaus Kleinfeld (Chairman, CEO of Arconic)
Mario Longhi (CEO of United States Steel)
Mark Sutton (Chairman, CEO of the International Paper Board)
Wendell Weeks (Chairman, CEO of Corning)
zijn nu aanwezig
"Marco Rubio is a choke artist, sweating all over the place. He was soaking wet, like he just came out of a swimming pool. We can't have that as a president". -Donald Trump
Tja, ambtenaren zullen er alles aan doen om hun baan te behouden en er voor te zorgen dat er nog meer bijkomen.quote:
De strijd tussen het kabinet van Trump en de federale ambtenaren gaat ook nog wel een interessante worden de komende vier jaar.
http://www.politico.com/s(...)t-bureaucrats-234019
Dat is in Nederland niet anders.
Generaals zijn ook afhankelijk van de politieke waan van de dag.quote:
Oh, en dezelfde incompetente generals (Trump uitspraak) kunnen nu ineens wel een plan opstellen wat ISIS onderuit haalt? Leuk.
Denk maar eens aan Srebrenica waar Dutchbat alleen met lichte wapens heen mocht.
net op CNBC live vanuit de 'boardroom' in het witte huis, statement van Trump met de CEO's aan tafel. Er werden wat cijfers genoemd, maar deregulation is op de agenda (75% slash), lagere belastingen en de productie moet in de VS gebeuren anders komt er een flinke tax.quote:
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Elon Musk (Founder, CEO, SpaceX, Tesla)
Kevin Plank (Founder, CEO, Chairman of Under Armour)
Mark Fields (President, CEO of Ford Motor Company)
Michael Dell (Founder, CEO of Dell Technologies)
Jeff Fettig (CEO, Chairman of Whirlpool)
Alex Gorsky (CEO of Johnson & Johnson)
Marillyn Hewson (Chairwoman, President, CEO of Lockheed Martin)
Klaus Kleinfeld (Chairman, CEO of Arconic)
Mario Longhi (CEO of United States Steel)
Mark Sutton (Chairman, CEO of the International Paper Board)
Wendell Weeks (Chairman, CEO of Corning)
zijn nu aanwezig
Aan het einde van de meeting zag ik o.a. Gary Cohn, Mike Pence, Jared Kushner, Steve Bannon en enkele financiele jongens van het Trump-team met de CEO's in groepjes praten. Sfeer leek erg goed.
Kijken of ik video kan vinden.
"Marco Rubio is a choke artist, sweating all over the place. He was soaking wet, like he just came out of a swimming pool. We can't have that as a president". -Donald Trump
Mooi daar gaan bedrijven erg blij mee zijn. Dan kunnen die landen de bijbehorende draconische IP wetten weer afschaffen. Die beschermden toch vooral VS bedrijven.quote:
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Over de laatste:twitter:JDiamond1 twitterde op maandag 23-01-2017 om 13:55:39 NEWS: President Trump to withdraw from TPP today via executive action, a senior WH official tells me. reageer retweet
1/10 Van de rappers dankt zijn bestaan in Amerika aan de Nederlanders die zijn voorouders met een cruiseschip uit hun hongerige landen ophaalde om te werken op prachtige plantages.
"Oorlog is de overtreffende trap van concurrentie."
"Oorlog is de overtreffende trap van concurrentie."
Dat laatste lijkt me een vrij willekeurige aanname, maar dat niemand staat te springen om vrijwillig mee te werken aan zijn of haar eigen ontslag lijkt me niet zo bijzonder. Ook niet specifiek iets voor ambtenaren.quote:
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Tja, ambtenaren zullen er alles aan doen om hun baan te behouden en er voor te zorgen dat er nog meer bijkomen.
Maar het artikel haalt ook een aantal andere interessante zaken aan. Het aantal ambtenaren reduceren staat natuurlijk helemaal niet gelijk aan de kosten reduceren. Mensen ontslaan en externen inhuren die hetzelfde werk gaan doen is niet bepaald goedkoper. In Nederland zie je ook mooi wat er dan gebeurt, kijk bijvoorbeeld eens naar het geweldige succes van het gemiddelde IT project bij de overheid.
Volkorenbrood: "Geen quotes meer in jullie sigs gaarne."
