Snap ik wel. Je maakt afspraken en ineens komen ze met hele andere doelstellingen.quote:Op woensdag 30 november 2016 13:31 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:
Rusland vraagt om opheldering:
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twitter:XSovietNews twitterde op woensdag 30-11-2016 om 14:10:35 LifeNews: Syrian Foreign Ministry: Erdogan's statements put an end to his lies. https://t.co/nDUrF06XdJ reageer retweet
the awefull truth...quote:Op woensdag 30 november 2016 00:42 schreef Aloulu het volgende:
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Iran is een religieuze staat. Het heeft zoals Saudie Arabië een duidelijke religieuze ideologie die het actief exporteert. Overal waar Iran zich heeft bemoeid met conflicten is er in het kielzog van militaire hulp ideologische "aid" meegestuurd om zieltjes te winnen. Al in Bosnië, maar ook in Irak na de val van Saddam (strijd tussen wilayat alfaqih sjia en non-WF sjia in Irak) of zelfs met staatshoofden waar geen conflict is maar men het verkoopt onder het mom van "Iraans Cultureel Attache", zoals in Marokko voordat men de banden verbrak, of Tunesië van voor de revolutie. Dit beperkt zich tot het verspreiden van 12-er sjia lectuur en bekeerlingen (gratis) in Qom laten studeren bijvoorbeeld.
Als je denkt dat Syrië anders is is het alsof je stelt dat ook Saudie Arabië niet moeite doet om elke klein kans niet te benutten om diens ideologie te verspreiden. Syrië is verwoest en kan behalve alle militaire hulp van Iran ook economische hulp gebruiken straks. Iran zal daar goed op inspringen, met de bekende ideologische inslag als winstpunt en gedrevenheid zieltjes te winnen. Opkopen van grond, investeringsprojecten beginnen, allemaal onderdeel van en tweede fase waarin economisch gezien de tentakels worden uitgespreid en Assads-regime sowieso geen kant meer op kan omdat het weinig keuze of alternatieven heeft. Met altijd op de achtergrond de verspreiding van de heersende doctrine in de Islamitische Republiek Iran: 12-er sjia Islam met wilayat al Faqih inslag: autoriteit behoort aan nu Khamenei.
weer een nieuwe PKK proxy of is dit een directe militie gecreeerd door de assadisten? mijn arabisch is niet zo best.quote:Op woensdag 30 november 2016 13:45 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:
Nieuwe speler erbij (als sinds september, maar vooruit).
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Eentje die komende maanden erg belangrijk gaat worden.
Toffe vlag wel, eigenlijk.
"Het Nationale Syrische Verzet". Radicaal links-socialistisch clubje wat dweept met "the resistance". Baathistische jaren 70 retoriek.quote:Op woensdag 30 november 2016 18:46 schreef Slayage het volgende:
weer een nieuwe PKK proxy of is dit een directe militie gecreeerd door de assadisten? mijn arabisch is niet zo best.
twitter:Avashin twitterde op woensdag 30-11-2016 om 17:56:13 reports that local groups in Azaz asking YPG for help to kick out Turkish backed Al Qaeda groups from the city. #TwitterKurds reageer retweet
tweet klikken voor meertwitter:Syria_Rebel_Obs twitterde op woensdag 30-11-2016 om 18:38:45 #SRO | LOCAL SOURCE - Liwa Asifat al-Shamal (part of Jabhat ash-Shamiya), main #Azaz brigade, had talks in past days with #Afrin #SDF (1) reageer retweet
twitter:MIG29_ twitterde op woensdag 30-11-2016 om 18:39:48 Breaking Aleppo , syrian Army capture Youth housing in the neighborhood Ahalouanah https://t.co/zN06Le92xL reageer retweet
Willen ze niet,mede dankzij Barry Obama/HDRC en co!!quote:Op zondag 27 november 2016 14:49 schreef Zahreddine het volgende:
Als de ''rebellen'' slim zijn geven ze gewoon Aleppo op.
twitter:sayed_ridha twitterde op woensdag 30-11-2016 om 23:59:29 Turkish-FSA forces have suffered large losses in a number of failed offensives against SDF/YPG at Qert Weran, Oshali & Sheikh Nasir reageer retweet
Benieuwd wie Al-Bab gaat krijgen.quote:Op donderdag 1 december 2016 10:05 schreef HSG het volgende:twitter:sayed_ridha twitterde op woensdag 30-11-2016 om 23:59:29 Turkish-FSA forces have suffered large losses in a number of failed offensives against SDF/YPG at Qert Weran, Oshali & Sheikh Nasir reageer retweet
Straks wordt het allemaal kebab!quote:Op donderdag 1 december 2016 10:50 schreef TheJanitor het volgende:
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Benieuwd wie Al-Bab gaat krijgen.
badumtsssquote:Op donderdag 1 december 2016 11:14 schreef HSG het volgende:
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Heb je gelijk ook het voedselprobleem opgelost.
quote:The Turkish military operation in Syria is not against anyone but terror groups, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said on Dec. 1.
Earlier, Erdoğan on Nov. 29 said that the Turkish military had launched its Euphrates Shield Operation that started in late August in Syria to end Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s rule.
Details to come...
quote:Neither Russia nor Syria staged deadly attack on Turkish soldiers in Syria, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said during an official visit to Turkey on Dec. 1.
Speaking at a joint news conference after meeting his Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu in the Mediterranean resort town of Alanya, Lavrov also said through a translator that Russia was “ready to speak with all parties in the Syrian conflict.”
Four Turkish soldiers were killed and nine others were wounded in the air strike during a Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army operation in northern Syria.
International agencies misquoted Lavrov as saying in earlier reports that Syria was responsible for the attack due to translation mistake.
December/01/2016
quote:Op dinsdag 29 november 2016 19:54 schreef Ceserius het volgende:
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Ben je het eens met de manier waarop de YPG nu wordt aangepakt door Turkije, door te voorkomen dat ze hun cantons kunnen verbinden?
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.quote:Het lijkt er trouwens op Putin Erdogan heeft lopen naaien. Die nieuwe coalitie van sdf/saa lijkt zich te gaan begeven richting al bab, met inderdaad zoals sommigen hier aangeven, linken van de koerdische cantons als een soort buffer tussen de TFSA.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.In een spoiler omdat het veels te veel/lang blabla is.
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https://www.ft.com/content/bc167c3a-b71d-11e6-961e-a1acd97f622dquote:Syrian rebels in secret talks with Moscow to end Aleppo fighting
Turkey-facilitated negotiations without US show how Washington could become sidelined
19 MINUTES AGO by: Erika Solomon in Beirut , Mehul Srivastasa in Istanbul and Geoff Dyer in Washington
Syrian rebels are in secret talks with Russia to end the fighting in Aleppo, according to opposition figures, a development that shows how the US could become sidelined in some of the Middle East’s most pivotal conflicts.
Four opposition members from rebel-held northern Syria told the Financial Times that Turkey has been brokering talks in Ankara with Moscow, whose military intervention last year on the side of President Bashar al-Assad helped turn the five-year civil war in the regime’s favour. Russia is now backing regime efforts to recapture the rebel’s last urban stronghold in Syria’s second city of Aleppo.
“The Russians and Turks are talking without the US now. It [Washington] is completely shut out of these talks, and doesn’t even know what’s going on in Ankara,” said one opposition figure, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the negotiations.
The outgoing administration of US President Barack Obama has provided limited training and weaponry for the rebels but had long been hesitant to give forceful backing that could turn the tide in the opposition’s favour. President-elect Donald Trump, meanwhile, has repeatedly signalled his willingness to back Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s efforts to shore up the Assad regime in the five-year civil war, arguing that the Kremlin is acting to stamp out Islamic extremists.
While the secret talks are not the first time a rebel representative has met with the Russians, those familiar with the talks said it was the first time such a large number of opposition groups were involved — a sign of where they think they will have to turn to reach a deal.
The negotiations are riven by the tensions between Ankara and Moscow, however. The Kremlin confirmed on Wednesday that Mr Putin spoke with Recep Tayyip Erdogan after the Turkish leader had said he was seeking Mr Assad’s overthrow. A Turkish official, who asked not to be named, said talks over an Aleppo ceasefire were derailed after Mr Erdogan’s comments caused a Russian delegation to abruptly cut off talks while waiting for Mr Erdogan and Mr Putin to speak.
Though the talks have made little progress, the fact they are taking place, without US involvement, underlines the shifting political dynamics in the Middle East. Regional actors now seem more willing to bypass Washington to seek out pacts with Russia, which is keen to develop the image of a rising power that can help broker such deals.
The fierce Russia-backed aerial assault has nearly flattened Aleppo. In the past week regime forces have made steady advances, capturing more than a third of rebel-held districts.
Yaser Alyoussef, a spokesman for the Nour al-Din al-Zinki brigades, called the talks “consultations, not negotiations,” adding that they were ongoing but had so far been unsuccessful.
“There are consultations with the Russians through Turkish mediation to calm things down and bring in essential goods into the city,” he said. “We want to bring in basic things, even if just a single bag of rice could come in. At this point everything is needed, from food and fuel to medicine.”
None of those who spoke about the negotiations would clarify if the rebels met the Russians face-to-face or indirectly, with Turkish officials mediating.
On Thursday Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, met with his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu in the Mediterranean town of Alanya, where he said Russia was willing to work with all parties in Syria. Asked about talks with the rebels, he told journalists: “We have never avoided contacts with any political opposition groups or with field commanders,” adding that Turkish officials often related information to them about the rebels.
For Washington, any such negotiations have ramifications far beyond Syria. Emile Hokayem, a fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, blamed the marginalisation of the US in the civil war on Barack Obama, who has shown a reluctance to entangle Washington in regional rivalries, leading Middle East leaders to turn to Moscow instead.
“The American approach to this conflict guaranteed the US less and less relevance, not just in the Syrian conflict but also the broader regional dynamics. There has been a loss of face and a loss of leverage,” he said. “The politics of the region are being transformed and this happened under Obama, whether by design or by failure.”
Libyan general Khalifa Haftar, who holds an eastern portion of the war-torn country, recently went to Moscow seeking military support. Turkey, having resolved its dispute with Moscow over the downing of a Russian jet, is believed to have reached an understanding with Russia that allows Ankara to deploy its forces in parts of northern Syria. Egypt and several Gulf countries have also increased communications with Russia, Mr Hokayem said.
Charles Lister, a Syria expert at the Middle East Institute in Washington, said the first meeting between Russia, Turkey and the rebels took place on Monday in Ankara, and another meeting was likely on Saturday.
“Russia is hedging its bets. It would prefer to make a deal with the opposition,” he said. “If Aleppo were to fall, the Syrian regime would need so many troops to hold the city that its forces would be left thin elsewhere in the country — or dependent on Iranian help, which Moscow would prefer to avoid.”
In parallel to the talks in Turkey, the US has been pursuing negotiations to restore the ceasefire and aid deliveries to Aleppo, including talks with Russia through the Geneva process and regular phone conversations between John Kerry, outgoing US secretary of state, and Mr Lavrov.
One opposition figure, when asked why he thought Russia would seek a deal with the rebels just as Mr Assad appeared to be winning, said Moscow was “essentially saying: ‘Screw you, Americans’.”
Nog wel ja, straks als Trump president is wil hij ook bij de meetings en telefoontjes aanwezig zijn natuurlijkquote:Op donderdag 1 december 2016 14:38 schreef no1uknow het volgende:
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https://www.ft.com/content/bc167c3a-b71d-11e6-961e-a1acd97f622d
CNN: BREAKING NEWS: "Assad, Rebels, ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Yemen surrender Unconditionally"quote:"Fantastic peace deal, tremendous terms, we get the oil, you get protection."
"If you don't agree with us and make peace we will bomb the hell out of you. And boy believe me some folks can't wait to turn on CNN and watch your country lit up. They don't care who's in power, they really don't. Do you know what a Nuclear Football is? I could test one on your country and I wouldn't lose any support. Putin [...] he won't care he's a good friend, a fantastic friend, he could be the sole gas supplier for Europe, he'd love that, it's incredible."
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