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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 13:14 schreef ems. het volgende:
"I am right just search google".
At least you can get reasonably reliable info rather than trusting certain forum entities.
You could try a library...have you ever been to one?
It's usually quite a large building with lots of books stored inside.

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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 13:18 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:

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Yes I know it, but I highly doubt that you know the correct answer to this question.
So why you asking then?
I highly doubt a lot of things you say - thats why I don't ask you.
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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 21:56 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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Ja- je sidekick.
GSM gaat niet via satellieten, GPS wel.
En dat kun je meten in de timing van de doppler shift van het signaal.
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14s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 13:50 schreef ChrisCarter het volgende:

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Ondertussen begrijp jij je eigen Engelstalige bronnen niet en kom je nooit met eigen antwoorden. Toppie hoor :Y
But you haven't had anything to say about radio frequencies.
Maybe you could be specific about my misunderstandings?
And then this from a mod.
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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 14:08 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:

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Uhuh, en vervolgens zeggen dat ik het onderwerp niet snap :')
Your statement is very wrong....

"Dat bouncen werkt alleen voor een zeer beperkte set vrij lage frequenties, waar je grote antennes voor nodig hebt, weinig bandbreedte hebt etc. Daar heb je wel degelijk meer voor nodig."
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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 14:17 schreef illusions het volgende:
De enige die van de discussie afwijkt beschuldigt van op de man spelen? :+ Ironisch. Hoe bewijst dit eigenlijk berhaupt chemtrails? Het begin-artikel gaat over grote wolken, niet over trails. :?
I was just pointing out that the follower of scientism is wrong.

Het begin artikel van 60 jaar geleden is. Zeer waarschijnlijk nieuwe ontwikkelingen er in zijn.
En dat de 60jaar oud technologie iets te maken met chemtrails heeft. Dat had je ook door als je de thread verder gelezen had.
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  maandag 27 maart 2017 @ 22:27:37 #207
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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 22:00 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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So why you asking then?
I highly doubt a lot of things you say - thats why I don't ask you.
Because your understanding of it is clearly wrong. For one thing, I stated that it is relatively low for a reason, as I am well aware that it is actually called HF. Something like UHF is line of sight, which is precisely why we need satellites or lots of earth based repeaters for this, which seems to be the exact oposite of what you think it means.
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http://www.wakingtimes.co(...)-sun-climate-change/

It’s Official: Geoengineering “Experiment” to Block Sun for Climate Change
Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.
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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 23:24 schreef Lambiekje het volgende:
http://www.wakingtimes.co(...)-sun-climate-change/

It’s Official: Geoengineering “Experiment” to Block Sun for Climate Change
Weinig officieels aan als ik het artikel zo lees.
  maandag 27 maart 2017 @ 23:45:46 #210
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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 23:24 schreef Lambiekje het volgende:
http://www.wakingtimes.co(...)-sun-climate-change/

It’s Official: Geoengineering “Experiment” to Block Sun for Climate Change
Small scale experiment.
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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 23:45 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:

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Small scale experiment.
En geen officieel plan om de zon te blokkeren. Altijd fijn die zogenaamde kritische media.
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http://www.aircrap.org/20(...)es-about-chemtrails/

Het is allemaal zo kleinschalig experiment dat schoolboeken het alvast vermelden.
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1s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 00:21 schreef ChrisCarter het volgende:

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En geen officieel plan om de zon te blokkeren. Altijd fijn die zogenaamde kritische media.
ah ja als NOS niet behandeld of behandeld heeft dan bestaat het niet. Logisch
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1s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 07:25 schreef Lambiekje het volgende:

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ah ja als NOS niet behandeld of behandeld heeft dan bestaat het niet. Logisch
Ja want dat is ook echt wat ik zeg... :')
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0s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 21:58 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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At least you can get reasonably reliable info rather than trusting certain forum entities.
You could try a library...have you ever been to one?
It's usually quite a large building with lots of books stored inside.
Misschien als jij wat vaker naar een library was geweest dat je ondertussen de taal machtig was. Verder blijft het lelijk om "ik heb gelijk zoek maar op" als argument te gebruiken. Dat doen alleen verliezers.
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1s.gif Op maandag 27 maart 2017 22:27 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:

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Because your understanding of it is clearly wrong. For one thing, I stated that it is relatively low for a reason, as I am well aware that it is actually called HF. Something like UHF is line of sight, which is precisely why we need satellites or lots of earth based repeaters for this, which seems to be the exact oposite of what you think it means.
OK – now you’ve changed the subject to line of sight which is very different from ionospheric propagation (which you wrongly claimed to be very limited to a set of low frequencies)

Anyway, it doesn’t matter.

UHF is used for TV, mobile phones,WiFi,GPS,high altitude balloons and planes.
Satellites are not needed.
Why even use such an unreliable, high-risk, terribly expensive technology when you have perfectly good systems already in place?

A powerful technology at the bottom of the ocean is why you can see this article
http://www.businessinside(...)les-carry-the-rest-1

"Contrary to popular belief, satellites carry less than 1% of human communications. Submarine cables carry the rest."

“The first telegraph cable across the English Channel was laid in 1850, and they have increased in number and sophistication ever since. “

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"Contrary to popular belief, satellites carry less than 1% of human communications. Submarine cables carry the rest."
Contrary to popular belief is deze statement een keiharde leugen. _O-

Zeikerige edits btw.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 11:38 schreef ems. het volgende:

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Misschien als jij wat vaker naar een library was geweest dat je ondertussen de taal machtig was. Verder blijft het lelijk om "ik heb gelijk zoek maar op" als argument te gebruiken. Dat doen alleen verliezers.
But you also don't have anything to say about radio frequencies.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 13:27 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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But you also don't have anything to say about radio frequencies.
Google het maar als je er iets over wilt weten :)
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 13:27 schreef ems. het volgende:

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Contrary to popular belief is deze statement een keiharde leugen. _O-

Zeikerige edits btw.
Maybe you could provide further info?
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 13:28 schreef ems. het volgende:

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Google het maar als je er iets over wilt weten :)
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 13:29 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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Maybe you could provide further info?
www.google.com
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  dinsdag 28 maart 2017 @ 15:50:57 #223
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1s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 13:20 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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OK – now you’ve changed the subject to line of sight which is very different from ionospheric propagation (which you wrongly claimed to be very limited to a set of low frequencies)
Errr no, this is at the core of understanding ionospheric propagation, as when it doesn't for the higher frequencies, you almost immediately talk about line of sight propagation, barring some funky other phenomena.

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Anyway, it doesn’t matter.

UHF is used for TV, mobile phones,WiFi,GPS,high altitude balloons and planes.
Satellites are not needed.
Why even use such an unreliable, high-risk, terribly expensive technology when you have perfectly good systems already in place?
Do you see lots of cell phone towers in the middle of the desert? Or maybe in the middle of the ocean? These good systems aren't in place everywhere. And that's only considering telephone/bi-directional communication. There is also the case of satellite TV for example, where you want to get the same signal to an entire continent.

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A powerful technology at the bottom of the ocean is why you can see this article
http://www.businessinside(...)les-carry-the-rest-1

"Contrary to popular belief, satellites carry less than 1% of human communications. Submarine cables carry the rest."

“The first telegraph cable across the English Channel was laid in 1850, and they have increased in number and sophistication ever since. “
And how does this prove for you that satellites aren't required?
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 15:50 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:

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Do you see lots of cell phone towers in the middle of the desert? Or maybe in the middle of the ocean? These good systems aren't in place everywhere. And that's only considering telephone/bi-directional communication. There is also the case of satellite TV for example, where you want to get the same signal to an entire continent.

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No.Do you see loads of people in the middle of the desert? There are ships in the ocean with antennae. There are high altitude balloons and aircraft that can relay radio signals.
It's all good old ground based technology that has been around a long time. we don't need outrageously expensive, unreliable, high-risk technology such as satellites. But if people want to continue beleiving in sci-fi space adventures, fine by me.
Satellites are not needed.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 28 maart 2017 22:33 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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No.Do you see loads of people in the middle of the desert? There are ships in the ocean with antennae. There are high altitude balloons and aircraft that can relay radio signals.
It's all good old ground based technology that has been around a long time. we don't need outrageously expensive, unreliable, high-risk technology such as satellites. But if people want to continue beleiving in sci-fi space adventures, fine by me.
Satellites are not needed.
So you agree that this infrastructure does not exist in the desert, or in the middle of the ocean?
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