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Everybody knows, nobody cares. Holland sounds cool and famous. The Netherlands is just boring.
There is a reason 99.9% of the world calls it Holland and even the government is doing so.
There is a reason 99.9% of the world calls it Holland and even the government is doing so.
"For the man sound of body and serene of mind, there is no such thing as bad weather; Every day has its beauty. And storms which whip the blood, do make it pulse more vigorously."
The reason is the great devaluation of the world's knowledge!quote:Op zondag 3 januari 2016 09:06 schreef Dven het volgende:
Everybody knows, nobody cares. Holland sounds cool and famous. The Netherlands is just boring.
There is a reason 99.9% of the world calls it Holland and even the government is doing so.
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. Holland sounds cool and famous. The Netherlands is just boring.
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I am Dutch, and from the Netherlands. I am no "Hollander" and I am most certainly not from Holland.
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quote:Op zondag 3 januari 2016 09:11 schreef Dingflofbips het volgende:
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The reason is the great devaluation of progress in the world's knowledge!
"For the man sound of body and serene of mind, there is no such thing as bad weather; Every day has its beauty. And storms which whip the blood, do make it pulse more vigorously."
In fact, "The Netherlands" (The Low Countries) is historically not correct since it was 17 provinces lying in wat we today know as in the Netherlands, Belgium and Northern France.
By signing the "Ackte van Verlatinge" in the Hague only 7 of the 17 became independent of the Spanish king.
Because this 'party of 7' had no king of their own they decided to become a republic "The Republic op the 7 United Netherlands"
Now Spain was no longer a power in the republic other states like England and France tried to take possesion of this new country and its wealth. To defend their harbour and trading the 'Korps Mariniers' was erected by the Grand Pensionary of Holland Johan de Witt and his Chieff of Staff Michiel de Ruyter.
Since it cost an arwful lot of money to train and maintain an army this could only be payed by the large trading cities in the province of Holland (e.g. Amsterdam, Dordtrecht, Enkhuizen).
The orther six provinces thought it was all much to expensive and they preferred a stadhouder (traditionally a member of the family of Orange) as leader of the republic in stead of Johan de Witt.
But... Holland was the only part of the republic of the Netherlands in which the other countries were interested in and it was the only part that could pay a fleet with marines (soldiers) it was the only province to be really recognized as an independent state. And that is why Holland was and is the only province that really matters.
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By signing the "Ackte van Verlatinge" in the Hague only 7 of the 17 became independent of the Spanish king.
Because this 'party of 7' had no king of their own they decided to become a republic "The Republic op the 7 United Netherlands"
Now Spain was no longer a power in the republic other states like England and France tried to take possesion of this new country and its wealth. To defend their harbour and trading the 'Korps Mariniers' was erected by the Grand Pensionary of Holland Johan de Witt and his Chieff of Staff Michiel de Ruyter.
Since it cost an arwful lot of money to train and maintain an army this could only be payed by the large trading cities in the province of Holland (e.g. Amsterdam, Dordtrecht, Enkhuizen).
The orther six provinces thought it was all much to expensive and they preferred a stadhouder (traditionally a member of the family of Orange) as leader of the republic in stead of Johan de Witt.
But... Holland was the only part of the republic of the Netherlands in which the other countries were interested in and it was the only part that could pay a fleet with marines (soldiers) it was the only province to be really recognized as an independent state. And that is why Holland was and is the only province that really matters.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Nieuwschierig op 03-01-2016 12:39:34 ]
Wie dit leest is gek
Just call it Netherland for Gods sake.
Raken om ze te helpen herinneren dat die schat van ongekende vermogens die het van ons heeft een trigger zit om er ook iets mee te doen. - Rini Stoutjesdijk
It ain't over till ehh... till... till it's over - Erik ten Hag
It ain't over till ehh... till... till it's over - Erik ten Hag
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Only autists make a elephant from this mosquito
Who's the black private dick
That's a sex machine to all the chicks?
That's a sex machine to all the chicks?
Seems the language barrier only held out against the unstoppable force of mass stupidity for 24 hours...was nice while it lastedquote:
Only autists make a elephant from this mosquito
I hope foreigners know that Limburg is not part of Holland (thank god).
Deceit for a lifetime has taken it's toll.
An emotional void, I feel numb and cold.
You're all dead to me now. And has been for long.
The time has come to reap what you've sown.
An emotional void, I feel numb and cold.
You're all dead to me now. And has been for long.
The time has come to reap what you've sown.
In Germany it is Die Niederlande, I believe.quote:
In Dutch: Nederland
In French: Pays-Bas
All other languages: Holland
Giechelend van de pret reed de bus volgeladen met meiden de afgrond in.
Bulgarian wikipedia
English wikipedia : The Netherlands in its entirety is often referred to by the much older designation "Holland"
For foreigners you're just Holland. Get used to it.
Weirdly enough Dutch people don't have a problem calling Inuit Eskimo's and Sapmi Lappen. Double standards...
Translation : Netherlands (Dutch: Koninkrijk der Nederlanden or just Nederland, The Netherlands), more often called Hollandquote:Кралство Нидерландия (на нидерландски: Koninkrijk der Nederlanden или просто Nederland, Нидерландия), наричана по-често Холандия
English wikipedia : The Netherlands in its entirety is often referred to by the much older designation "Holland"
For foreigners you're just Holland. Get used to it.
Weirdly enough Dutch people don't have a problem calling Inuit Eskimo's and Sapmi Lappen. Double standards...
"For the man sound of body and serene of mind, there is no such thing as bad weather; Every day has its beauty. And storms which whip the blood, do make it pulse more vigorously."
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