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Is echt geen enkele serie waar mensen het zo met elkaar eens waren over het super interessante begin, was best wel een hype, om vervolgens ook door iedereen volop afgekraakt te worden.quote:Op maandag 22 juni 2015 23:56 schreef truedestiny het volgende:
ExtantBegon leuk, elke aflevering werd het slechter.
Was ook best grappig, hangt ook af van waar het nu heen gaat.quote:
Ik heb net de trailer gekeken. Er was toch al zoiets? Vorig jaar dacht ik. Kan me herinneren dat ik toen aflevering 1 heb bekeken en toen meteen ben afgehaakt.quote:
ik had gisteren humans geziens, en nu is ep 2 ook uit.. de eerste was prima te doen trouwens. de serie gaat een beetje de zelfde richting op als de film ex machina
Mmm misschien was dat toch met een wat andere insteek, ik bedoelde Almost Human.
Juli
Sex&Drugs&Rock&Roll
Sex&Drugs&Rock&Roll centers on Johnny Rock who, as the magnificently talented lead singer of New York's legendary early 90's band The Heathens, was on his way to the cover of Rolling Stone magazine. His best friend Flash was being called the next number one lead guitar player on planet earth. The critics loved them. Their live shows were selling out. But Johnny had a problem with booze. And coke. And weed. And pills. And cough medicine. And oh yeah - he slept with Flash's wife. And his bass player's fiancée. The band broke up the same day their first and only record was released.
Twenty-five years later Johnny is trying to get the band back together. Why? Because as his soon-to-be-ex manager Ira Feinbaum tells him: "Johnny, you're 50, broke and completely anonymous. In rock'n'roll you know what that makes you? A bartender". Twenty-five years later the sex might be harder to find, the drugs might be Luvox and Crestor and Cialis - but rock'n'roll will never die. It just has a bigger prostate. The show will feature original music and occasional guest appearances by actual rock stars.
Wet Hot American Summer
The misadventures of campers and counselors at Camp Firewood.
A spin-off of the 2001 farcical comedy of the same name, the series will bring back the cast of the cult classic for more wacky, off-kilter fun.
Augustus
Significant Mother
Budding Portland restaurateur Nate's world is turned upside down when he comes back from a business trip to find his lothario best friend and roommate, Jimmy, is now dating his recently separated mother, Lydia. To make matters worse, Nate's previously disinterested dad, Harrison is now determined to win Lydia back and isn't afraid to use Nate to get what he wants. Stuck between his family feud and his best friend's first serious relationship, Nate's "new normal" forever changes his relationships with his parents, and severely handicaps his own dating life.
Mr. Robinson
As lead singer and keyboardist of a rock band, Craig knows a thing or two about working the crowd, but his day job is where he really makes the grade. Every struggling artist knows the drill: you got to pay the bills while you wait for that big break. So when Craig finds himself short on cash, he takes a job as a substitute teacher. It's an easy gig, right? Throw a DVD in the player, dim the lights and sleep off last night's party.
Yet when he realizes that the kids think his class is an easy A, Craig's moved to inspire his students. Music is his passion and he's not about to let anyone sleep though this period... period. The school principal is a woman who believes that rules were made to be strictly upheld. She's none too fond of Craig's unorthodox teaching style, or his crush on the pretty English teacher.
Public Morals
New York City, 1967; the Public Morals Division where cops walk the line between morality and criminality as the temptations that comes from dealing with all kinds of vice can get the better of them. It centers on cop Terry Muldoon who knows the line between the good guys and bad guys is thin, and he is determined to raise his sons to be honest and hardworking as he deals with the dark underbelly of the vice world.
September
Life in Pieces
The story of one big happy family and their sometimes awkward, often hilarious and ultimately beautiful milestone moments as told by its various members. Of the three siblings, middle child Matt may have just found his true love, his co-worker, Colleen; his coddled youngest brother, Greg, and his wife, Jen, are overwhelmed by the birth of their first child; and the eldest, Heather, and her husband, Tim, are dreading their impending empty nest so much, they're considering having another baby.
Their parents are Joan, the family's adoring matriarch who would do anything for her kids - as long as she agrees with it - and John, the gregarious patriarch who's searching for ways to soften the blow of turning 70. As the family's lives unfold in four short stories each week, they try to savor these little pieces of time that flash by but stay with you forever, because these moments add up to what life's all about.
Blindspot
A vast international plot explodes when a beautiful Jane Doe is discovered naked in Times Square, completely covered in mysterious, intricate tattoos with no memory of who she is or how she got there.
But there's one tattoo that is impossible to miss: the name of FBI agent Kurt Weller, emblazoned across her back. "Jane", Agent Weller and the rest of the FBI quickly realize that each mark on her body is a crime to solve, leading them closer to the truth about her identity and the mysteries to be revealed.
The Muppets
It's time to play the music. It's time to light the lights. And it's time for a grown-up reboot of The Muppet Show!
The Muppets will officially return to prime time with a contemporary, documentary-style show. For the first time ever, the series will explore the Muppets' personal lives and relationships, both at home and at work, as well as romances, break-ups, achievements, disappointments, wants and desires - a more adult Muppet show, for kids of all ages.
Limitless
Brian Finch discovers the brain-boosting power of the mysterious drug NZT and is coerced by the FBI into using his extraordinary cognitive abilities to solve complex cases for them. Working closely with Brian is Special Agent Rebecca Harris, a formidable investigator with a dark past, and Special Agent Boyle, a former military officer and Rebecca's confidante. They report to Special Agent in Charge Nasreen "Naz" Pouran, a canny manipulator of the reins of power.
Unbeknownst to the FBI, Brian also has a clandestine relationship with Senator Edward Mora, a presidential hopeful and regular user of NZT who has plans of his own for his new protégé. Fueled now with a steady supply of NZT that enables him to use 100% of his brain capacity, Brian is more effective than all of the FBI agents combined, making him a criminal's worst nightmare and the greatest asset the Bureau has ever possessed.
Heroes Reborn
The phenomenon begins again with a fresh crop of inspiring heroes who take on the ultimate struggle between those with extraordinary abilities and those with nefarious motives to hunt and harness their powers.
Epic adventures await these newly empowered allies as they cross paths with some of the original characters (such as the beloved 'HRG' and fan-favorite time-traveler Hiro Nakamura), unlocking the mysterious fate of the universe and their place within it.
The Player
The Player is a high-octane thriller about a former intelligence officer who, while working as a security expert for the wealthy, is wrongly accused of the brutal murder of his wife.
A syndicate of powerful people offers him freedom in exchange for stopping high-stakes crimes, as he continues to avenge his wife's death and uncover the game-like conspiracy among his mysterious employers. He eventually realizes he's a player in a hundred-year-old tradition where the rich and powerful bet on the ultimate "game": crime in our world.
Blood and Oil
Billy and Cody Lefever dream of a new life beyond their working class roots and move to "The Bakken" in North Dakota, booming after the biggest oil discovery in American history. They're soon pitted against a ruthless tycoon who forces them to bet big and put everything on the line, including their marriage.
Quantico
A diverse group of recruits has arrived at the FBI Quantico Base for training. They are the best, the brightest and the most vetted, so it seems impossible that one of them is suspected of masterminding the biggest attack on New York City since 9/11.
As we intercut between their hidden pasts and their present training, we also flash-forward to the near future, where one of the recruits will turn out to be a sleeper terrorist.
Code Black
In the busiest, most notorious ER in the nation the staggering influx of patients can outweigh the limited resources available to the extraordinary doctors and nurses whose job is to treat them all - creating a condition known as Code Black. At the heart of the ER's controlled chaos is Residency Director Dr. Leanne Rorish, renowned for successfully performing high-risk procedures in Center Stage, the trauma area reserved for the most critical cases.
Her four new first-year residents are Christa Lorenson, Malaya Pineda, Mario Savetti and Angus Leighton. Leanne's confidante, Jesse Sallander, is an amiable seen-it-all senior nurse who manages the residents. Also working in the ER is Dr. Neal Hudson, an excellent physician who sometimes disagrees with Leanne's 'cowboy' approach, and Dr. Rollie Guthrie, the energetic, longest-serving attending. In Center Stage, life is measured in seconds, and these heroic doctors and nurses operate with speed and skill within an overwhelmed system to treat the crowds of people who are often there for one of two reasons: to die or to receive a life-saving miracle.
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Sex&Drugs&Rock&Roll
Sex&Drugs&Rock&Roll centers on Johnny Rock who, as the magnificently talented lead singer of New York's legendary early 90's band The Heathens, was on his way to the cover of Rolling Stone magazine. His best friend Flash was being called the next number one lead guitar player on planet earth. The critics loved them. Their live shows were selling out. But Johnny had a problem with booze. And coke. And weed. And pills. And cough medicine. And oh yeah - he slept with Flash's wife. And his bass player's fiancée. The band broke up the same day their first and only record was released.
Twenty-five years later Johnny is trying to get the band back together. Why? Because as his soon-to-be-ex manager Ira Feinbaum tells him: "Johnny, you're 50, broke and completely anonymous. In rock'n'roll you know what that makes you? A bartender". Twenty-five years later the sex might be harder to find, the drugs might be Luvox and Crestor and Cialis - but rock'n'roll will never die. It just has a bigger prostate. The show will feature original music and occasional guest appearances by actual rock stars.
Wet Hot American Summer
The misadventures of campers and counselors at Camp Firewood.
A spin-off of the 2001 farcical comedy of the same name, the series will bring back the cast of the cult classic for more wacky, off-kilter fun.
Augustus
Significant Mother
Budding Portland restaurateur Nate's world is turned upside down when he comes back from a business trip to find his lothario best friend and roommate, Jimmy, is now dating his recently separated mother, Lydia. To make matters worse, Nate's previously disinterested dad, Harrison is now determined to win Lydia back and isn't afraid to use Nate to get what he wants. Stuck between his family feud and his best friend's first serious relationship, Nate's "new normal" forever changes his relationships with his parents, and severely handicaps his own dating life.
Mr. Robinson
As lead singer and keyboardist of a rock band, Craig knows a thing or two about working the crowd, but his day job is where he really makes the grade. Every struggling artist knows the drill: you got to pay the bills while you wait for that big break. So when Craig finds himself short on cash, he takes a job as a substitute teacher. It's an easy gig, right? Throw a DVD in the player, dim the lights and sleep off last night's party.
Yet when he realizes that the kids think his class is an easy A, Craig's moved to inspire his students. Music is his passion and he's not about to let anyone sleep though this period... period. The school principal is a woman who believes that rules were made to be strictly upheld. She's none too fond of Craig's unorthodox teaching style, or his crush on the pretty English teacher.
Public Morals
New York City, 1967; the Public Morals Division where cops walk the line between morality and criminality as the temptations that comes from dealing with all kinds of vice can get the better of them. It centers on cop Terry Muldoon who knows the line between the good guys and bad guys is thin, and he is determined to raise his sons to be honest and hardworking as he deals with the dark underbelly of the vice world.
September
Life in Pieces
The story of one big happy family and their sometimes awkward, often hilarious and ultimately beautiful milestone moments as told by its various members. Of the three siblings, middle child Matt may have just found his true love, his co-worker, Colleen; his coddled youngest brother, Greg, and his wife, Jen, are overwhelmed by the birth of their first child; and the eldest, Heather, and her husband, Tim, are dreading their impending empty nest so much, they're considering having another baby.
Their parents are Joan, the family's adoring matriarch who would do anything for her kids - as long as she agrees with it - and John, the gregarious patriarch who's searching for ways to soften the blow of turning 70. As the family's lives unfold in four short stories each week, they try to savor these little pieces of time that flash by but stay with you forever, because these moments add up to what life's all about.
Blindspot
A vast international plot explodes when a beautiful Jane Doe is discovered naked in Times Square, completely covered in mysterious, intricate tattoos with no memory of who she is or how she got there.
But there's one tattoo that is impossible to miss: the name of FBI agent Kurt Weller, emblazoned across her back. "Jane", Agent Weller and the rest of the FBI quickly realize that each mark on her body is a crime to solve, leading them closer to the truth about her identity and the mysteries to be revealed.
The Muppets
It's time to play the music. It's time to light the lights. And it's time for a grown-up reboot of The Muppet Show!
The Muppets will officially return to prime time with a contemporary, documentary-style show. For the first time ever, the series will explore the Muppets' personal lives and relationships, both at home and at work, as well as romances, break-ups, achievements, disappointments, wants and desires - a more adult Muppet show, for kids of all ages.
Limitless
Brian Finch discovers the brain-boosting power of the mysterious drug NZT and is coerced by the FBI into using his extraordinary cognitive abilities to solve complex cases for them. Working closely with Brian is Special Agent Rebecca Harris, a formidable investigator with a dark past, and Special Agent Boyle, a former military officer and Rebecca's confidante. They report to Special Agent in Charge Nasreen "Naz" Pouran, a canny manipulator of the reins of power.
Unbeknownst to the FBI, Brian also has a clandestine relationship with Senator Edward Mora, a presidential hopeful and regular user of NZT who has plans of his own for his new protégé. Fueled now with a steady supply of NZT that enables him to use 100% of his brain capacity, Brian is more effective than all of the FBI agents combined, making him a criminal's worst nightmare and the greatest asset the Bureau has ever possessed.
Heroes Reborn
The phenomenon begins again with a fresh crop of inspiring heroes who take on the ultimate struggle between those with extraordinary abilities and those with nefarious motives to hunt and harness their powers.
Epic adventures await these newly empowered allies as they cross paths with some of the original characters (such as the beloved 'HRG' and fan-favorite time-traveler Hiro Nakamura), unlocking the mysterious fate of the universe and their place within it.
The Player
The Player is a high-octane thriller about a former intelligence officer who, while working as a security expert for the wealthy, is wrongly accused of the brutal murder of his wife.
A syndicate of powerful people offers him freedom in exchange for stopping high-stakes crimes, as he continues to avenge his wife's death and uncover the game-like conspiracy among his mysterious employers. He eventually realizes he's a player in a hundred-year-old tradition where the rich and powerful bet on the ultimate "game": crime in our world.
Blood and Oil
Billy and Cody Lefever dream of a new life beyond their working class roots and move to "The Bakken" in North Dakota, booming after the biggest oil discovery in American history. They're soon pitted against a ruthless tycoon who forces them to bet big and put everything on the line, including their marriage.
Quantico
A diverse group of recruits has arrived at the FBI Quantico Base for training. They are the best, the brightest and the most vetted, so it seems impossible that one of them is suspected of masterminding the biggest attack on New York City since 9/11.
As we intercut between their hidden pasts and their present training, we also flash-forward to the near future, where one of the recruits will turn out to be a sleeper terrorist.
Code Black
In the busiest, most notorious ER in the nation the staggering influx of patients can outweigh the limited resources available to the extraordinary doctors and nurses whose job is to treat them all - creating a condition known as Code Black. At the heart of the ER's controlled chaos is Residency Director Dr. Leanne Rorish, renowned for successfully performing high-risk procedures in Center Stage, the trauma area reserved for the most critical cases.
Her four new first-year residents are Christa Lorenson, Malaya Pineda, Mario Savetti and Angus Leighton. Leanne's confidante, Jesse Sallander, is an amiable seen-it-all senior nurse who manages the residents. Also working in the ER is Dr. Neal Hudson, an excellent physician who sometimes disagrees with Leanne's 'cowboy' approach, and Dr. Rollie Guthrie, the energetic, longest-serving attending. In Center Stage, life is measured in seconds, and these heroic doctors and nurses operate with speed and skill within an overwhelmed system to treat the crowds of people who are often there for one of two reasons: to die or to receive a life-saving miracle.
Copy+paste van http://www.pogdesign.co.uk/cat/
Er zal ongetwijfeld meer bijkomen, maar voorlopig een opzetje naar het komende seizoen. Kan eventueel in de nieuwe OP.
Persoonlijk kijk ik wel uit naar The Player en Blindspot. Als Philip Winchester en Sulliver Stapleton hetzelfde niveau als hun vorige serie Strike Back behouden, dan vindt ik dat helemaal prima.
Persoonlijk kijk ik wel uit naar The Player en Blindspot. Als Philip Winchester en Sulliver Stapleton hetzelfde niveau als hun vorige serie Strike Back behouden, dan vindt ik dat helemaal prima.
Ik kan op een of andere manier altijd weinig met die lange uitleg.
Kijk altijd tegen het tijd van uitkomen de poster, korte synopsis en cijfer op IMDb.
En natuurlijk dit topic
Kijk altijd tegen het tijd van uitkomen de poster, korte synopsis en cijfer op IMDb.
En natuurlijk dit topic
Een lijstje met een overzicht vind ik altijd wel handig. Dan kan je van daaruit bekijken of je zelf meer informatie opzoekt over iets. 
En ik had even niks te doen
En ik had even niks te doen
Wel top!quote:
Een lijstje met een overzicht vind ik altijd wel handig. Dan kan je van daaruit bekijken of je zelf meer informatie opzoekt over iets.
En ik had even niks te doen
Denk dat veel het gaan gebruiken.
Is er ook ergens iets van een lijstje op deze manier:
Datum - Naam - Genre - Wanneer speelt het zich af - eventueel kort verhaaltje
Ach zie het vaak ook wel als het uitkomt.
ja die was er ook nogquote:Op dinsdag 23 juni 2015 13:35 schreef Karina het volgende:
[..]
Ik heb net de trailer gekeken. Er was toch al zoiets? Vorig jaar dacht ik. Kan me herinneren dat ik toen aflevering 1 heb bekeken en toen meteen ben afgehaakt.
Mmm misschien was dat toch met een wat andere insteek, ik bedoelde Almost Human.
almost human vond ook prima te doen trouwens, maar misschien ben ik redelijk snel vermaakt als er robots in zitten. helaas is almost human gecanceld na s1...voor de duidelijkheid:
humans (2015): Humans (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb (8,2)
almost human (2013-2014): Almost Human (TV Series 2013–2014) - IMDb (8,1)
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8,2 is alleen wat hoog aangezien het vooral Brits is.quote:
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ja die was er ook nog
voor de duidelijkheid:
humans (2015): Humans (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb (8,2)
almost human (2013-2014): Almost Human (TV Series 2013–2014) - IMDb (8,1)
Wist ik niet, had het gedownload, hoorde de eerste mensen praten, oh neuhhh
Even voor de duidelijkheid, niet OMDAT het Brits is en ik dat niks vind, maar vooral omdat regionale series en films vaak veel minder nieuwsgierige kijkers en relatief weinig (negatieve) IMDb votes hebben.quote:
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8,2 is alleen wat hoog aangezien het vooral Brits is.
Wist ik niet, had het gedownload, hoorde de eerste mensen praten, oh neuhhh
Dankjewelquote:
Een lijstje met een overzicht vind ik altijd wel handig. Dan kan je van daaruit bekijken of je zelf meer informatie opzoekt over iets.
En ik had even niks te doen
Heb de OP maar meteen aangepast. Mocht er nog iets tussen/bij moeten geef maar een gil.Wat ik in ieder geval wil checken: Heroes Reborn en Quantico.
Mhh robots zeg je. Extant!quote:
[..]
.
ja die was er ook nog
voor de duidelijkheid:
humans (2015): Humans (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb (8,2)
almost human (2013-2014): Almost Human (TV Series 2013–2014) - IMDb (8,1)
Nee, ben ik nu echt de enige hier die Extant degelijk vond?
Op zaterdag 28 juni 2014 @ 18:18 schreef Marie30 het volgende: Zo lief. :) Kusje :*
Op donderdag 14 juli 2016 @ 23:45 schreef GGMM het volgende: Het is altijd bijzonder gezellig als banaantje er is. :)
Op donderdag 14 juli 2016 @ 23:45 schreef GGMM het volgende: Het is altijd bijzonder gezellig als banaantje er is. :)
Psssst strike back speelt nog steeds hequote:
Er zal ongetwijfeld meer bijkomen, maar voorlopig een opzetje naar het komende seizoen. Kan eventueel in de nieuwe OP.
Persoonlijk kijk ik wel uit naar The Player en Blindspot. Als Philip Winchester en Sulliver Stapleton hetzelfde niveau als hun vorige serie Strike Back behouden, dan vindt ik dat helemaal prima.
Dat nieuwe lijstje lijkt niet veel soeps.
Heroes Reborn en Blindspot...de rest lijkt mij niet zo boeiend.
Heroes Reborn en Blindspot...de rest lijkt mij niet zo boeiend.
Op zaterdag 28 juni 2014 @ 18:18 schreef Marie30 het volgende: Zo lief. :) Kusje :*
Op donderdag 14 juli 2016 @ 23:45 schreef GGMM het volgende: Het is altijd bijzonder gezellig als banaantje er is. :)
Op donderdag 14 juli 2016 @ 23:45 schreef GGMM het volgende: Het is altijd bijzonder gezellig als banaantje er is. :)
In ging er van uit dat ze klaar zijn met opnemen van het laatste seizoen.quote:Op dinsdag 23 juni 2015 18:08 schreef Awsom het volgende:
[..]
Psssst strike back speelt nog steeds he
Blindspot en Quantico lijken me in potentie wel aardig.quote:
Dat nieuwe lijstje lijkt niet veel soeps.
Heroes Reborn en Blindspot...de rest lijkt mij niet zo boeiend.
Volkorenbrood: "Geen quotes meer in jullie sigs gaarne."
Ik was bij Heroes vanaf de release al hooked maar ik ben bang dat de reboot gedoemd is te mislukken...
The Muppets ben ik wel erg benieuwd naar, beetje onschuldig vermaak met één van m'n jeugdliefdes (wie kent The Muppets Tonight nog?) kan nooit kwaad.
The Brink heb ik de pilot van gezien, gewoon een humoristische HoC, wel leuk vermaak voor een half uurtje.
The Muppets ben ik wel erg benieuwd naar, beetje onschuldig vermaak met één van m'n jeugdliefdes (wie kent The Muppets Tonight nog?) kan nooit kwaad
.The Brink heb ik de pilot van gezien, gewoon een humoristische HoC, wel leuk vermaak voor een half uurtje.
The Interceptor, degelijke engelse serie, net de pilot gezien.
The difference between the three Abrahamic religions:
- Christianity mumbling to the ceiling,
- Judaism mumbling to the wall,
- Islam mumbling to the floor.
- Christianity mumbling to the ceiling,
- Judaism mumbling to the wall,
- Islam mumbling to the floor.
De 2e episode van TV / [USA] Proof is ook uit. Ben erg benieuwd, volgt niemand dat? begon erg interessant!
Extant, wel vermakelijk.quote:
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Mhh robots zeg je. Extant!
Nee, ben ik nu echt de enige hier die Extant degelijk vond?
Op zaterdag 10 juni 2023 14:52 schreef GGMM het volgende:
Eigenlijk is elke prijs die in het voetbal gewonnen wordt terug te leiden naar het Ajax-DNA
Eigenlijk is elke prijs die in het voetbal gewonnen wordt terug te leiden naar het Ajax-DNA
Ik vond de pilot van The Brink ook een stuk leuker dan ik verwacht had. Kan best wat wordenquote:
Ik was bij Heroes vanaf de release al hooked maar ik ben bang dat de reboot gedoemd is te mislukken...
The Muppets ben ik wel erg benieuwd naar, beetje onschuldig vermaak met één van m'n jeugdliefdes (wie kent The Muppets Tonight nog?) kan nooit kwaad
The Brink heb ik de pilot van gezien, gewoon een humoristische HoC, wel leuk vermaak voor een half uurtje.
Please sir. When moon? When Mustang?
Jammer dat het maar een half uurtje is...quote:
Ballers vond ik best amusant, ga ik verder zeker een kans geven.
Andere vraag.
Zijn er hier nog mensen die Stitchers kijken? Is juliie het zelfde opgevallen? Alleen lezen als je aflevering 4 ook al gezien hebt.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Terrifying Kittysaurus: "Limitations are the shackles we bind to ourselves"
TV / [USA] Ballersquote:
Ballers vond ik best amusant, ga ik verder zeker een kans geven.
Ah toch nog iemandquote:
Op 
Op zaterdag 28 juni 2014 @ 18:18 schreef Marie30 het volgende: Zo lief. :) Kusje :*
Op donderdag 14 juli 2016 @ 23:45 schreef GGMM het volgende: Het is altijd bijzonder gezellig als banaantje er is. :)
Op donderdag 14 juli 2016 @ 23:45 schreef GGMM het volgende: Het is altijd bijzonder gezellig als banaantje er is. :)
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