Usenet #23 Waar de meeste tegen brein zijn

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Op vrijdag 9 november 2012 22:27 schreef MacorgaZ het volgende:
En nu even een serieus alternatief.

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Op zaterdag 10 november 2012 11:51 schreef jpjedi het volgende:
Van arrow krijg ik geen kont meer binnen.. Ik ga het eens proberen via newsleecher op mijn windowsbak

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Op zaterdag 10 november 2012 11:51 schreef jpjedi het volgende:
Van arrow krijg ik geen kont meer binnen.. Ik ga het eens proberen via newsleecher op mijn windowsbak

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Op zaterdag 10 november 2012 14:18 schreef AnimeFan het volgende:
nzbindex

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Op donderdag 27 september 2012 19:24 schreef s0ul1991 het volgende:
Hier is een handig overzichtje om te zien welke reseller bij welke provider zit aangesloten. Handig voor als je een block account ergens wil om de DMCA takedowns te ontwijken.

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Op zaterdag 10 november 2012 14:18 schreef AnimeFan het volgende:

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Probeer eens de uploads van QoQ. Ik heb ze allemaal gewoon binnen kunnen halen.

'arrow qoq 1080' zoeken op nzbindex

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Op zaterdag 10 november 2012 15:56 schreef FreaZ het volgende:
Even wat verwerkt:

Zwart = mijn ervaringen
Oranje = tweakers bericht
Geel = ?

[ link | afbeelding ]

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Op zaterdag 10 november 2012 16:08 schreef FreaZ het volgende:
Nee, allemaal Newsservers die DMCA doen.

i-telligent kun je er ook aan toevoegen.

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Op zaterdag 10 november 2012 17:34 schreef s0ul1991 het volgende:

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Highwinds is een backbone waar DMCA snel is verwerkt.
Astraweb doet nu ook aan instant DMCA takedowns. De request wordt niet eens meer bekeken door Astraweb personeel.

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Op zaterdag 10 november 2012 17:40 schreef AnimeFan het volgende:
Benieuwd welke backbone http://www.bitusenet.com/ gebruikt..

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Southern Charms, an amateur porn site, is locked in a battle with the uploaders of a.b.southern-charms and a.b.southern-charms.pictures. They’ve been sending in DMCA requests and their DMCA rep has even been posting to the group warning people.

It kind of reminds me how you’ll hear about authors confronting people who upload their books on the web. Southern Charms mostly moves forward with legal threats, but then the amount of money are on different levels, so that is understandable.

Due to the nature of Usenet, anyone being able to post, I wonder if we’ll see more copyright holders posting in these groups. Especially niche groups like this, where you know people have to be looking at the individual headers. There is no way people won’t see the copyright holder’s posts. Then we can all see these interesting exchanges.

It seems as though the people who frequent that group didn’t quite believe what the alledged poster was saying. Assuming that he was simply a troll. The first post could easily be seen as that. Usually copyright holders don’t lock horns with Usenet uploaders.

NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 12:36:34 -0500
From: DMCA Southern-Charms <dmca@southern-charms.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.southern-charms
Subject: Southern Charms Removal Notice
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To Whom It May Concern:

There seems to be considerable confusion concerning the removal of
Southern Charms content from UseNet. In order to circumvent the
perpetuation of what amounts to the blatant wholesale exploitation of
the material in question, Southern Charms provides this official
statement to enlighten you.

On May 7, 2012, Southern Charms was awarded in excess of 7.1 million
dollars in it's first copyright violation case - case # C2-10-566 by
The Honorable Edmund A. Sargus, Jr, United States District Judge.

The amount of the award was based directly upon the amount of Southern
Charms content. UseNet currently displays more Southern Charms
content than the offender in the lawsuit,

You so eloquently describe your actions as "advertisement" that you
seem to think Southern Charms should be in concert with, when in
reality you are directly responsible for adversely affecting every
model in every image you have ever uploaded to UseNet in addition to
breaking the law.

Be advised, as Hugh Elmwood stated, YOUR anonimity also ends with the
billing process. By law we can and will obtain your contact
information should any further abuse appear..

Having successfully prosecuted copyright infringement, we are now
seeking to have all Southern Charms content immediately
disabled/removed from UseNet and any other Internet venue per DMCA
law. For those who are not aware, from our official DMCA:

"We further request that the following Southern Charms
exclusively licensed material posted on UseNet be
removed. Since this practice has started, it has cost us
millions in sales. We will not allow this practice to continue. It
is our intent to permanently remove all Southern Charms
content from UseNet.

As you nor the participants of UseNet neither
asked for nor received permission to use Southern Charms images nor to
make or distribute copies, including electronic copies, of
same, you and they have willfully infringed upon our rights
under 17 U.S.C. Section 101 et seq. and could be liable for
statutory damages as high as $150,000 as set forth in
Section 504(c)(2) therein. All of the below listed images
are licensed exclusively to Southern Charms."

That is $150,000 PER VIOLATION...

Let me clarify- all of the images seen on Southern Charms are
copyright protected and licensed exclusively to Southern Charms.
Southern Charms and it's models will no longer tolerate the
unauthorized use of it's intellectual properties, and will prosecute
those who continue to infringe upon Southern Charms' copyrights..

Regards,
Southern Charms Tech Support
Tech.Support@southern-charms.com
Southern Charms DMCA
dmca@southern-charms.com
for Southern Charms Owner, William Wesson
I’ve never seen anything like it. And it is highly unusual. It seems as though they’re doing the DMCA requests themselves. Although, I’m only guessing.

You can probably see why people thought this was a troll. Especially since it’s so easy for anyone to do a DMCA on some usenet providers.

Luckily for us the DMCA agent kept posting.

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Having a web site is an incredible rush! You can’t imagine the
delight and great pleasure I take from this fabulous sexual and
creative outlet! I'm Oh Alex on SC2 and I’m so thrilled that there
are men who have an appreciation for the real woman… the AMATEUR
model!

So why do all the hackers and thieves and re-posters that profess
adulation for the every-day-woman seem bent on forcing us into
extinction?

Do you seriously want only the pros on the Internet? We can’t afford
$500 flash units and $65 stilettos if our sales continue to decline.
The pros can. Is that your goal?

Have you noticed that many Charms have stopped posting while others
have quit?

Could it be because their web sites no longer provide the income they
deserve? Anyone who claims it’s not “work” or doesn't’t “cost
anything” is ignoring what they’re looking at.

Or perhaps having their whole catalog of images and videos provided
for free on Usenet has discouraged them, taking the fun out of what
they were doing. Some felt forced to stop as your posting and
re-posting their pictures all over the Internet increased their risk
of discovery.

It was their choice to be on ONE web site where the club content was
more circumspect, the explicit images available only ‘behind closed
doors’ so to speak. One European Charm quit because her young adult
children were familiar with Usenet so you can applaud yourselves for
taking a very sensuous and kind Charms’ offerings away from the world.

We are every woman you encounter in your daily life…our bravery in
what we do should be applauded and supported, not sabotaged and
exploited. I wonder what makes you think you have the right to take
anything from any of us?

Why you seem so willing to hurt us… You damage the very objects you
praise… What kind of mentality does it take to steal? Why was the
intellect used to hack into the web site not applied to some more
honorable pursuit?

You try to cover the insult by claiming all this somehow assists with
advertising. Then you seek to ignore the law, trying to excuse the
official notification from the Southern Charms Staff as something one
of your “trolls” dreamed up.

How much thought have you given to stealing from our pay checks? That
is precisely what you have done to us when you posted and download our
images and videos from Usenet. Are you as free with your own income?
Would you like to find out? The $150,000 fine is per violation and
the attorneys are collecting a list right now so we may have the
opportunity to explore this if you'd like.

Viewers of Usenet, do not excuse yourselves simply because you
didn't’t provide the stolen goods. You are as much a part of this
crime as the posters. You are the reason they hack in and illegally
re-post our efforts. Your praise and adulation for the narcissists
with no scruples perpetuates the crime. They thrive on those ego
strokes and false bravado. You'll notice every one of you hides
behind fake e mails and names for your posts.

Has it ever occurred to you that all 800 models have access to Usenet?
That we can identify and report our own images to the DMCA department
for removal, that it may not have been your back-stabbing petty rivals
trying to dethrone your bragging rights as the reigning low life who
thinks he is above the law?

Yes we do own the copyrights. And each and every one of you, even
those who have simply made requests for the stolen goods could be
accessories to the fact… and for the record, previous Charms' content
is not fair game for reposting, and our three preview posts are not up
for grabs either. So posting our free shots and asking for more has
put you on the same list as the hackers with the club content. The
news readers you subscribe to by law will provide the Southern Charms
attorneys with your contact information.

Ever wonder why several of the larger services removed the entire alt.
binaries. SC and SC-pictures? It wasn't because of some bluff.

Do you ever read your own posts? Do you have any idea what you sound
like?

You delude yourselves by stating your contribution of our intellectual
property to Usenet somehow assists us or Southern Charms in
advertisement. Really? Whole site rips? Sent around the world? Just
take a minute to think that one through….

Do not expect the models of Southern Charms who are the legal
copyright holders to allow your abuse to continue. The material is
licensed for exclusive use on Southern Charms and Southern Charms is
looking for the next lawsuit. We are providing as much as possible to
the legal team and it includes some of your other areas you so freely
re-post our images and videos to. All it will take is one refusal to
remove the content or repeat offenders to repost what has been
removed.

No matter how you “massage the posts”, re-name the files, or crop our
copyright and licensure statements off, we and our members will always
recognize and report our own images. Yes, the members are mad as hell
and helping us.

Every single post that has ever been made on Usenet concerning
Southern Charms has put the poster in jeopardy as it provides an
official record of our content from the point of upload.
Although, if no one believed this poster at this point, he even provided some convincing proof. A picture of one of the models holding a sign with her opposition to Usenet.



Edit: I found someone who is on the otherside of this little battle who posted an explenation about what is going on. Or at least his thoughts on the matter.

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Well, Mr X is, of course, not only wholly incorrect
but dangerously and maliciously incorrect. Before
anyone rips apart his "logic" let's ask ourselves
why on earth anyone visiting a group which has no
other function than to be a place to post Southern
Charms picures should so assiduously oppose that
obvious function.

Mr X's message is a fine example of confusion
masquerading as "providing facts". Whereas some of
his so called "facts" are correct he should be very
careful about what he deduces from them. For instance,
it's probably true that posters did get scare notes
from their ISPs. This happens all the time throughout
Usenet. ISPs cannot simply ignore complaints but they
rarely get involved. It's just a routine which they
feel they have to follow. It has no actual substance.
Even if the ISPs DID receive copyright complaints
they could not have come from the Southern Charms website
and there is no evidence that they did. The SC "message"
posted here was clearly a fake concocted by a troll.
Southern Charms have no interest - they collect their
money from the sites they hire out WHETHER OR NOT
the pix are re-posted over the whole web. The loser
is ONLY the girl hiring the site who also happens to
be the ONLY copyright holder. Let's get that fact
straight, shall we?

As for Usenet not being a place to post other people's
pictures, well that's too ridiculous for words. Usenet
would be absolutely barren if that was the reality.
Also, let's hark back again to the title of the group.
If it's not for posting Southern Charms pictures then
it's hard to know what it IS for. The reality is that
this group used to be a nice little earner for the
Southern Charms webmaster as it was a fantastic source
of free advertising. Let's get THAT fact right too!

The increase in access security at SC is another FACT
and while we cannot prove that posters did not take
out subscriptions to all the SC sites it would be
stretching the idea of philanthropy a little far to
imagine that they did. No, they couldn't get in any
more so they couldn't post any more. That's the
reality, nothing to do with copyrights at all.

It's pleasant to think that the posters would post if
they wanted to. How stupidly simplistic. If they can't
get the pics they can't post them, whether they want
to or not. Time for Mr X to get real.

So, if any prospective poster feels intimidated by
Mr X, forget it. He's clueless. This group's title
tells us admirably what it's for. We don't need a
troll like Mr X to try to make out otherwise.