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  vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:25:29 #26
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Het is ook niet waar
Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
  vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:28:29 #27
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www.melodicrock.com meldt het volgende:

NO GNR IN 2002:
Gun N Rose have been forced to issue a press release denying a new album is ready for release.
It reads:
GNR's forthcoming album, Chinese Democracy, will not see the light of day in early September, a spokesperson for the group's record company has told Launch.
The Interscope/Geffen Records representative spoke to the band's management, who replied to the unsubstantiated rumor, "Where are they getting this from?"
The report of the Labor Day release surfaced as part of the Drudge Report on Monday, June 24th.
As previously reported, Guns N Roses frontman and sole remaining original member Axl Rose is said to have recorded over 70 songs for this record with various producers. In February, he fired producer Roy Thomas Baker who had been brought in to replace Sean Beaven.
It is unsure who will have credits on this version of the record, if it actually comes out. Rose recently commented on the record saying "we're in the studio doing this album and I can promise you that we're gonna deliver and it's gonna be out of the ballpark. We've been working on this album and I can tell you we're doing our best and that's all I can promise".
Let me add my 2c worth. 70 songs???? With that amount of material, there could have been a record a year for the last 7 years. One must wonder what Axel is thinking.
When someone of Axel's mental state is left to their own devices, it is safe to say that the results may never see the light of day unless the label involved has the balls to put a deadline on things. Surely there is little hope of regaining the popularity of band's glory days after such a lengthy hiatus. Not to mention the fact there's only one original member involved. The eccentric ensemble that recorded the band's awesome debut have been replaced by a cast of studio musicians that hold little public interest.

Rest mij nog de vraag: wie boeit het nog?!?

"That's what Britney Spears said before he died.."
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Op vrijdag 28 juni 2002 10:28 schreef Antikal het volgende:

Rest mij nog de vraag: wie boeit het nog?!?


En waarom schopt de platenmaatschappij Axl niet onder z'n vette reet?!?
  vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:32:58 #29
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Mij.


En wat jij net postte, daar zit een kern van waarheid in (het laatste stuk bedoel ik). Axl neemt net zoveel tijd als hij nodig hebt zolang de label er geen deadline aan vastzet. Ik wil best een goed album hebben, maar ik krijg het idee dat het album zo overgeproduceerd word nu dat het nergens meer naar klinkt. Nouja, ik blijf rustig wachten tot ie uitkomt, in de tussentijd ga ik even fijn mijn Nine Inch Nails collectie uitbreiden

Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
  vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:34:20 #30
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Op vrijdag 28 juni 2002 10:28 schreef Antikal het volgende:
The eccentric ensemble that recorded the band's awesome debut have been replaced by a cast of studio musicians that hold little public interest.
Dat is natuurlijk ook gewoon gelul, want mensen die een beetje bekend zijn met de rock muziek kennen Buckethead en Robin Finck echt wel... maargoed, we zien wel.
Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
  FOK!-Schrikkelbaas vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:36:04 #31
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Op vrijdag 28 juni 2002 10:34 schreef Mr_Brownstone het volgende:

[..]

Dat is natuurlijk ook gewoon gelul, want mensen die een beetje bekend zijn met de rock muziek kennen Buckethead en Robin Finck echt wel... maargoed, we zien wel.


ik kende die vuilnisemmerhoofd niet voordat hij bij Guns n' Roses genoemd werd hoor. Waarvan moeten we die nog kennen dan?
Nothing lasts forever but the certainty of change
  vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:38:53 #32
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Op vrijdag 28 juni 2002 10:36 schreef Tokus het volgende:

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ik kende die vuilnisemmerhoofd niet voordat hij bij Guns n' Roses genoemd werd hoor. Waarvan moeten we die nog kennen dan?


van zijn solo albums en samenwerking met een groot aantal andere bands.

laat ik het zo zeggen: de MEESTE mensen kennen hem wel

Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
  FOK!-Schrikkelbaas vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:42:47 #33
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Op vrijdag 28 juni 2002 10:38 schreef Mr_Brownstone het volgende:

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van zijn solo albums en samenwerking met een groot aantal andere bands.

laat ik het zo zeggen: de MEESTE mensen kennen hem wel


noem dan 's wat bands waarmee hij samengewerkt heeft, en de albums waarop.

en ook dat "meeste" van je durf ik nog wel erg aan te twijfelen hoor. Dat jij 'm kent als gnr fan wil echt niet zeggen dat iedereen 'm kent. Als hij een zanger was zouden meer mensen 'm kennen.

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* kuch *

* calvobbes had nog nooit van van die pipo's de clown gehoor

  vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:48:06 #35
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Op vrijdag 28 juni 2002 10:42 schreef Tokus het volgende:

[..]

noem dan 's wat bands waarmee hij samengewerkt heeft, en de albums waarop.

en ook dat "meeste" van je durf ik nog wel erg aan te twijfelen hoor. Dat jij 'm kent als gnr fan wil echt niet zeggen dat iedereen 'm kent. Als hij een zanger was zouden meer mensen 'm kennen.


Ik zit nu op mijn werk dus ik kijk later wel ff tussen mijn cd's waar hij op heeft meegespeeld (weet het ook niet allemaal uit mijn hoofd hoor - maar ik ben ook niet zo'n muziek kenner )

Maar ik dacht inderdaad dat hij wel redelijk bekend was aangezien hij ook vaak langskomt in gitaar topics enzovoorts. En je kan natuurlijk ook zeggen dat omdat jij hem niet kent dat de rest hem ook niet kent

Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
  vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:48:28 #36
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buckethead

<Sonium> someone speak python here?
<lucky> HHHHHSSSSSHSSS
<lucky> SSSSS
<Sonium> the programming language
  vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:54:12 #37
6317 Antikal
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Ik moet eerlijk zeggen dat Guns 'n Roses wat mij betreft ophield met het vertrek van Izzy Stradlin. Hoewel hij nooit zo nadrukkelijk aanwezig was waren hij en Axl (or should I say Exl) *het* schrijversduo van die band.

Bovendien vormde het duo Stradlin / Slash ook nog eens een geweldig gitaar tag-team! Pure 'chemistry' zoals men dat noemt...

Ik ontken niet dat ik reuze benieuwd ben naar dat Chinese Democracy gebeuren, maar ik vrees dat het niet echt mijn ding gaat worden.

"That's what Britney Spears said before he died.."
  vrijdag 28 juni 2002 @ 10:57:07 #38
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Op vrijdag 28 juni 2002 10:54 schreef Antikal het volgende:
Ik moet eerlijk zeggen dat Guns 'n Roses wat mij betreft ophield met het vertrek van Izzy Stradlin. Hoewel hij nooit zo nadrukkelijk aanwezig was waren hij en Axl (or should I say Exl) *het* schrijversduo van die band.

Bovendien vormde het duo Stradlin / Slash ook nog eens een geweldig gitaar tag-team! Pure 'chemistry' zoals men dat noemt...

Ik ontken niet dat ik reuze benieuwd ben naar dat Chinese Democracy gebeuren, maar ik vrees dat het niet echt mijn ding gaat worden.


Ze hebben al een paar nummers live gedaan, o.a. Madagascar, Silk Worms, The Blues en Oh My God. Download ze en kijk of je het iets vind.


Ben het wel met je eens dat Izzy & Axl een goed schrijvers duo was, maar veel teksten op Use Your Illusions komen van Axl zelf af, en ik persoonlijk vind die twee albums twee van de beste albums (tekstueel gezien dan).

Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
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Bij www.allmusic.com kennen ze hem iig wel!
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Concerten zijn inmiddels bevestigd voor o.a. Pukkelpop en een concert in Londen!!
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De GNR is helemaal GNR niet meer met al die nieuwe members.
It took God six days to create the earth, and Monty Python just 90 minutes to screw it up.
  woensdag 24 juli 2002 @ 09:18:02 #42
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Op woensdag 24 juli 2002 00:51 schreef Mr. Orange het volgende:
De GNR is helemaal GNR niet meer met al die nieuwe members.
Have a little faith.
Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
  woensdag 24 juli 2002 @ 09:25:32 #43
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Op vrijdag 28 juni 2002 10:42 schreef Tokus het volgende:

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noem dan 's wat bands waarmee hij samengewerkt heeft, en de albums waarop.


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  woensdag 24 juli 2002 @ 12:26:41 #44
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Ik hoorde via via dat Buckethead uit GNR wil, maar hij zit contractueel vast aan de tour, die moet ie dus doen. Maar als hij uit de band stapt zal Axl wéér de gitaarpartijen op de cd opnieuw moeten laten inspelen... (of niet, maar dan moet ie Buckethead royalties betalen)
... na vijf jaar
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En hier weer eens even wat info over GNR waarvan je denkt "tja... "
quote:
In an interview with his official fan site, Axl Rose confirmed that Guns n' Roses' long-awaited Chinese Democracy album remains unfinished, but that he hopes to release it by the end of the year.
Rose did the interview with longtime friend and associate Del James, before the singer flew to China; Guns perform tonight in Hong Kong. In the conversation, Rose revealed that he expects to return to the States, following a brief tour of Europe and Asia, in order to finish the new album. He claimed that Chinese Democracy's tracks were picked, the sequence chosen and the artwork completed. He also called the band's current tour a warm up for a fall outing. Rose also speculated that Guns n' Roses could be on the road for the next two to three years.

Gn'R's new guitarist, Richard Fortus (Love Spit Love, the Psychedelic Furs), has been recording lead and rhythm tracks, which could account for the most recent delay in the seven-year project, but Rose said that it was "time to stop that now and wrap up the baby," though he also attributed the delay to imperfections on prior projects. "I gave into a lot of pressure on Illusions both internally in Guns and externally in the press. Those albums (Use Your Illusion I and II) suffered as a consequence. It's not something I'm too excited to have to live with again."

Fortus' entry followed the departure of Paul Tobias, a boyhood friend of Rose's who was brought into the fold in the mid-Nineties, at the expense of GN'R members Slash, Duff McKagan and Matt Sorum. "Paul helped us a lot in the writing and the recording of this record," said Rose, "and to me was a vital part of not only the band but also my life. The world tour really wasn't his cup of tea, whereas he's much more comfortable in a studio setting. We're fortunate to have found Richard, who has this vibe kind of like Izzy (Stradlin) but with amazing feel."

From Hong Kong, the band travels to Japan, Belgium and England before heading home. A U.S. tour is being eyed for November with more dates to be scheduled abroad next year.


http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=16462

Het album is dus nog steeds niet af !?!?!?

En hier een aardig verslag van het concert in Hong Kong

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I may have just witnessed the best rock concert I've ever seen in my life. With little or no promotion or press buzz about the show, there were maybe at most 2,000 people in attendance. But for all those that went, I doubt anyone would forget this show anytime soon.


As with tradition, the band came on late, maybe 90 minutes after the opening band. There were actual rumours swirling down in the audience that Axl was going to pull out last minute, and I, for one, was as nervous as a train wreck. I've been waiting 15 years to see him live, and of course, his reputation preceded him. But at roughly 10pm, the lights dimmed, and the same voice recording as the Rio show started playing. Then the band got on stage and launched into the most badass version of "Welcome to the Jungle" that I've ever heard. Even though I'm a huge fan of the original band, Slash, Izzy, Duff, and even Steven Adler, I have to say this new band kicked fucking ass. Axl wore a black American football jersey and a blue bandana, and surprisingly, his voice seemed to improve with age. After "Jungle", it was straight into "It's So Easy". In fact, I'm pretty sure he played almost the entire tracklist of "Appetite For Destruction".


"Rocket Queen", "Think About You", "Mr. Brownstone", "Nighttrain", and "Out Ta Get Me" all sounded fresh and exciting. "Sweet Child O' Mine" was especially incredible, with Robin Finck handling Slash's opening riff, and Buckethead playing the same riff for the rest of the song. What was amazing was that all three guitarists were beyond capable, each of them taking turns on Slash's solos. Hate to say it, but can't say Slash was missed at all.


About half-way into the show, the incredible Buckethead did his solo. To the sound of heavy drum machine, he came out with two knumbchucks, swinging around like Bruce Lee on acid. He could actually do it! Then after throwing both knumbchucks into the audience, he went on to do some crazy breakdancing, like a serious loon. With a yellow windbreaker, white mask and KFC bucket, he was unlike anything I've ever seen. Then he strapped on his guitar and played choice selections of the "Star Wars" theme, "Pirates of the Caribbean" from Disneyland, a crazy computer-like solo that sounded like a synthesizer, then a funk jam where he was actually slapping his guitar like a bass, and various nutty solos. That might of been the virtuoso highlight of the show.


After his insane solo act, the piano was rolled out where Axl twidled the keys like a classical solo. I never knew that Axl could play! He wore the same red velvet jacket as in the video, and changed his bandana into a red one. The band launched into "November Rain", which though I never was a big fan of the song, I loved the live version. Then they played a much shortened version of "Estranged", really only the final climax of the song. Besides these two, the other songs from "Use Your Illusion" included "You Could Be Mine", "Live and Let Live". I never thought I would hear a version of "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" as brilliant as their '88 show at the Ritz in New York, but the one they played tonight was just mind-blowing. The guitars were incredibly soulful and moving, and Axl's voice! Instead of the "Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye" after the title verse, he instead went into this incredibly high-key harmonizing. As a singer, I think he's unrivaled in the rock world, and as far as this 29 year-old is concerned, as pointed out by one of my friends there tonight, he may be the "last great rock star" performer. No one since has surpassed his ability and talent live on stage, in my humble opinion.


He played two new songs, the first one a slow number that he didn't introduce. Before he played the second one, he told a little anecdote why the new album is called "Chinese Democracy". He said it was because he saw a photo taken in Hong Kong, which he's using as the new album cover. And then he showed it on the video screens, and it was a black and white picture of a bicycle with a basket, and in the wall behind it, someone had grafittied "guns n roses"!!! He said "I didn't paint that myself, so one of you motherfuckers out there must have did it!" The crowd went wild, and he launched into the song. Despite what many people have reported about them taking a "techno" turn, this song was pure hard rock n' roll. Though being the first time I've heard it, I absolutely loved it!!!


About the band, new guitarist Richard was excellent, sporting a goth look that I didn't expect, hearing that he formerly played with the Psychedelic Furs. Tommy on bass provided much of the backup vocals, and the only one that looked "normal", coming onstage in sports jacket that was gone pretty early in the show. If I didn't know that the drummer was Brain of Primus fame, I would have sworn that he was Reni from the Stone Roses! He wore the exact fisherman's hat (though I have seen Beck's drummer wear the same thing), and he played just like him! Very tight and just like Steven Adler on the record, though he didn't play any solos so it was hard to gauge how good he really was. The two keyboard guys banged their heads and rocked out, though I swear to god, you could not hear them on the mix at all! Which for me was a good thing...probably the one song where you could hear them was the first slow new song, which was had a bit of synthesizer sound, and a drum machine beat for part of it (Brain just sat there not playing for that part).


The regular set ended way too early for this lifelong fan, though it was probably a good hour and 45 minutes. The last song might have been "Patience" (the only song from "Lies"), though I can't remember exactly. Another beautiful rendition, Richard and Buckethead both strapped on acoustic guitars, with Robin playing the only electric. Axl did an insane job on the whistling, and this might have been one of the best received songs of the show. The end part of the song was incredible, with the band rocking out and Axl belting out that part with such power and beauty. The crowd just went nuts, and the whole place was practically drowned by the audience singing along.


For the encore, Robin came out by himself with a sunburst Les Paul and played a very soulful, instrumental version of "Don't Cry". Hard to imagine as soulful and beautiful guitar playing from the guy from Nine Inch Nails. Then the whole band came out and played the most kickass version of "Paradise City". On the video screen, opening with a shot of the China flag, they showed shots of Hong Kong from a car and a helicopter, which were probably taken by Axl himself today or yesterday. The song was pure energy, with Axl hitting every fucking note and wail. It was also the visual highlight of the show, with flames bursting that you could literally feel the heat from, and then fireworks and red and yellow confetti streaming down from the ceiling. I was right smack center, maybe 14 rows from the front, and visually, it was as if I took acid and shrooms in a Vegas casino. Just visually fucking stunning!!!!


And then the show ended, leaving I'm sure, every fucking person in the audience blown away. We came in a big group, with hundreds of shows between us, and no one could remember a better show that they've seen. The big story of the night might have been how incredible Axl's voice was, with none of the coarseness from the "Live Era". Big, strong, high, and perfectly in key did he sing all fucking night. His outfit was leather pants and a black 99 football jersey for the first half of the show, and then a white 80 jersey later on (besides the red velvet jacket). Though the stage was relatively small, he still did his share of sprinting around, and disappeared backstage every so often for a minute or two, before coming back out. Buckethead showed why he was the man, filling in the very, very big shoes of Slash, and in his own way, probably every bit a player as Slash is. And the band was just fucking tight. All in all, it was a truly amazing fucking show, playing every good song (that at least I fucking wanted to hear). From a guy that was there, I'm telling you, Guns N' fucking Roses are back!!!!


http://www.mygnr.com/news/2002/020814_2.html Klinkt erg positief
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Hee, maar begrijp ik nou uit dat eerste artikeltje dat op de plaat nu weer een andere gitarist speelt dan Buckethead en Robin Finck, die mee zijn op tour? Geen wonder dat die plaat nooit afkomt, Axl heeft zo langzamerhand al meer gitaristen versleten dan de Chili Peppers...
Like a steam locomotive, rollin' down the track
He's gone, gone, and nothin's gonna bring him back
  zaterdag 24 augustus 2002 @ 20:32:06 #47
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Op vrijdag 23 augustus 2002 16:34 schreef Zander het volgende:
Hee, maar begrijp ik nou uit dat eerste artikeltje dat op de plaat nu weer een andere gitarist speelt dan Buckethead en Robin Finck, die mee zijn op tour? Geen wonder dat die plaat nooit afkomt, Axl heeft zo langzamerhand al meer gitaristen versleten dan de Chili Peppers...
Dat begrijp je verkeerd.

Er is alleen een nieuw iemand gekomen om de plaats van Paul Tobias in te nemen, die laatst is vertrokken.


Ze hebben gisterenavond op het Leeds Festival gespeeld overigens:

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Guns N' Roses bring Leeds to its knees!
24 August 2002

There's only one band that could so effortlessly make underdogs of The Prodigy, and bully the promotors into jeopardising the already delicate future of a festival, so that they can perform a full set in light of technical delays. GNR play until 1am!

Despite a line-up that would rank as exceptional, without their presence (Incubus, Slipknot, Puddle of Mud, The Offspring - The Prodigy's first English appearance since 1998!), there was but one band dominating the proceedings at the first day of the Carling Weekend: Leeds Festival 2002. From the t-shirts, to the campsite stereos, to the abundance of bandanas and top hats in the crowd, to the backstage gossip to the comedy tent banter, the entire site was overshadowed by a heavy fog of anticipaction.

Indeed, this marked the first UK appearance by Guns N' Roses for nine years, and represented the unveiling of an all-new line-up. The Leeds site was packed to bursting point with people of all ages wanting to be a part of this momentous event - from the die hard nostalgia junkies to the new metal kids (who pilfered their big brothers' record collections to hear this stuff, in the same way that their big brothers nicked their dad's Led Zeppelin), to the plain curious who simply wished to see if there is life after Slash.

From the moment the band arrived, the show effectively began, as the cavalcade of no less than eight police-escorted black stretch limosines cruised onto the site, disappearing into the expansive sealed-off 'GNR only' area occupying half of the backstage compound.

Due to 'technical difficulties' they took the stage an hour and a half later than schedule, kicking off with a short film intro at 11.30pm (the normal curfew time for the event!). The set was virtually identical to that of the recent Hong Kong shows, relying heavily on material from the Appetite for Destruction, with the inclusion of 2 new songs, 'Madagascar' and 'Chinese Democracy', title track from the forthcoming album. Rose was notable for his lack of costume changes (he donned black leather trousers and an American football top throughout) and his voice which was more consistent and controlled than ever. The new band added a slick new sheen and professional tightness to the older songs.

The controversy kicked off mid-way through the set, when Rose announced, "Looks like this is going to be an interesting night. I have just been informed by Leeds city council and the promotors [Mean Fiddler] that they want me to end the show [due to the time constraints resulting from the earlier delays]. Now, I don't want to be accused of inciting a riot, but I didn't come all the way to England to be told to go home again! I've had nothing but shit from the press here. Axl this, Axl that. Anyway, if you stay here, we'll keep playing and we'll see what happens".

With the festival's future at this venue already in jeopardy, due to local campaigns that nearly prevented its licence this year, the promotors were instantly thrust into a very difficult position. In 1992, riots broke out in St. Louis (Rose was charged with incitement) and Montreal after GNR cut their sets short.

Obviously, it was decided that pulling the power just wasn't worth the risk, and Axl subsequently announced, "They're going to let us carry on. I want to thank whoever was responsible for that".

Rose reacted to a Virtual Festivals crew member's chants of "We want Slash" by quipping, "Up my arse, that's where Slash is. Fuck off, go home". The band eventually left the stage after 1am - unheard of for a British Festival.

The full set list was:

'Welcome To The Jungle'
'It's So Easy'
'Mr. Brownstone'
'Live And Let Die'
'Think About You'
'You Could Be Mine'
'Sweet Child O' Mine'
'Knockin' On Heaven's Door'
'Madagascar'
'November Rain'
'Out Ta Get Me'
'Rocket Queen'
'Chinese Democracy'
'Patience'
'Nightrain'
'Paradise City'
Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
  zaterdag 24 augustus 2002 @ 20:34:39 #48
17275 Mr_Brownstone
Believe it... or not.
pi_5520944
de set list klopt niet helemaal trouwens. Ze hadden The Blues gespeeld, niet Chinese Democracy.
Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
  zaterdag 24 augustus 2002 @ 21:06:06 #49
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pi_5521288
guns n roses staat zo ongerveer op dit moment op pukkelpop in belgie...

dat ik het moet missen

  zaterdag 24 augustus 2002 @ 22:11:13 #50
17275 Mr_Brownstone
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pi_5521957
Klik hier maar op: http://www3.rtbf.be/rtbf_2000/radios/radio21.m3u

Als het goed is krijg je dan straks GNR live te horen.

Yes, that sequence of words I just said made perfect sense.
I've got my propaganda, I've got revisionism. I've got my violence in hi-def ultra-realism. All a part of this great nation. I've got my fist, I've got my plan, I've got survivalism.
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