En toch heeft Konrad Audenauer al in 1932 de eerste Autobahn geopend. Vóórdat de nazi's aan de macht kwamen. Die hebben het project wel verder afgemaakt. Maar het was niet echt hun idee.quote:
Maar in eerste instantie werden de plannen afgewezen, de nazi's hebben het netwerk uitgebreid.quote:Op woensdag 29 juli 2009 19:55 schreef Iblis het volgende:
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En toch heeft Konrad Audenauer al in 1932 de eerste Autobahn geopend. Vóórdat de nazi's aan de macht kwamen. Die hebben het project wel verder afgemaakt. Maar het was niet echt hun idee.
je gaat te snel, daar wilde ik voorzichtig naartoe, anders slaan we een belangrijk stuk over....quote:Op woensdag 29 juli 2009 20:10 schreef Ali_Kannibali het volgende:
Ik zou er niet van staan te kijken als dit waar is. Eigenlijk hoef je ook alleen de financiers te kennen om te weten in van wie wij in dienst was.
Wat ik zelf misschien nog interessanter vind is de Hitler - Katholieke kerk connectie.
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Je reageert de laatste tijd wel vaker kritisch over me posts, maar het verband missen is het eigenlijke punt.quote:Op donderdag 30 juli 2009 10:46 schreef ToT het volgende:
Dat heeft weinig met de OP te maken, maar is idd wel opvallend. Overigens is er al een topic over dat Israel een Nazi-bolwerk zou zijn.
quote:1917-1948 Brits Mandaat voor Palestina
Dat is de naam van een Nazi-krant (zie ook het logo hieronder): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Angriffquote:Op donderdag 30 juli 2009 10:49 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
Maar die voorste tekst, Angriff is aanval? Staat er dan niet, in zijn geheel, daarheen gaan om ze aan te vallen?
Waarom niet? Gedeeltelijk is dat waar. Buiten de gruwelen om is een en ander wel door de toenmalige politiek uitgevoerd daar, om ook hun economie op te krikken. Maar dit soort posts kun je voortaan beter in het Feedback-topic doen, dat is daar ook voorquote:
Und erzählt is inderdaad 'en vertelt', op Wikipedia wordt er ook over gesproken in de Humanities helpdesk (de vraag in cursief, antwoord daaronder):quote:Op donderdag 30 juli 2009 11:13 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
Underzahlt > vertelt? Hm...soort van gedenkmunt dan?
Maar, wat is dan de connectie met de "britse agent" theorie Ticker?
quote:Baron von Mildenstein
I was looking for an article on the above individual and Nazi connections with Zionism before the Second World War, but can find nothing. It is possible to find some information on his activities in a google search, but some of the sites are-ahem-somewhat on the 'dodgy' side, to say the least. Can someone please give me the unbiased facts? MindyE 07:55, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm not at all surprised that the career of Mildenstein is being used as political ammunition, MindyE, because he was involved in attempting to construct a working political 'partnership' between the Nazi state and Zionist movement. Now, could any subject be more loaded than that?! I have to move carefully here, and will try to be as objective as I can. The chief point to hold in mind is that the aim of Nazi policy for much of the pre-war period was to encourage as much Jewish migration from Germany as possible. Inevitably, whatever political and ideological differences existed, this aim overlapped, to a significant degree, with similar aims by the Zionists, anxious to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
One has to remember that when the Nazis came to power in January 1933 they had no agreed solution on how the perceived 'Jewish problem' was to be tackled. There were those, of course, like Julius Streicher, who advocated an immediate expulsion of all Jewish people from German territory, though more moderate influences were quick to point out the implications of such a move for the German economy, still in deep depression. Beyond approving limited gestures, like the one-day boycott of Jewish businesses in April 1933, Hitler gave no clear lead in the matter, which left the way open to initiatives by agencies within the state; agencies like the SS, which began to research possible policy options. And from the midst of the SS came Baron Leopold Itz von Mildenstein, a self-appointed 'expert' on the Jewish question.
Mildenstein, who was born in Prague in 1902, had taken an early interest in Zionism, even going so far as to attend Zionist conferences to help deepen his understanding of the movement. He actively promoted Zionism as a way out of the official impasse on the Jewish question; as a way, in other words, of making Germany Judenrein (free of Jews). The Zionists, whose movement had grown tremendously in popularity among German Jews since Hitler came to power, were keen to co-operate. On April 7 1933 the Juedische Rundschau, the bi-weekly paper of the movement, declared that of all Jewish groups only the Zionist Federation of Germany were capable of approaching the Nazis in good faith as 'honest partners.' The Federation then commissioned one Kurt Tuchler to make contact with possible Zionist sympathisers within the Nazi Party, with the aim of easing emigration to Palestine. Tuchler approached Mildenstein, who was asked to write something positive about Jewish Palestine in the Nazi press. Mildenstein agreed, on condition that he be allowed to visit the country in person, with Tuchler as his guide. So, in the spring of 1933 an odd little party of four set out from Berlin, consisting of Mildenstein and Tuchler with their respective wives. Mildenstein's experiences were later reported in twelve instalments in Der Angriff, Goebbels' own paper, beginning on 26 September 1934, under the title Ein Nazi faehrt nach Palestina ( A Nazi travels to Palestine). Perhaps the most curious aspect of this whole bizarre affair is that Der Angriff even commissioned a medal to celebrate this journey, with a Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other.
On his return, Mildenstein's suggestion that the solution to the Jewish problem lay in mass migration to Palestine was accepted by his superiors within the SS. In 1935 he was put in charge of the Jewish Desk in the RSHA-Section 11/112-, under the overall control of Reinhardt Heydrich. SS officials were even instructed to encourage the activities of the Zionists within the Jewish community, who were to be favoured over the 'assimilationists', said to be the real danger to National Socialism. Even the anti-Jewish Nuremberg Laws of September 1935 had a special Zionist 'provision', allowing the Jews to fly their own flag.
In the end Mildenstein fell out of favour, because migration to Palestine was not proceeding at a fast enough rate. His departure from the RSHA after ten months in office also saw a shift in SS policy, marked by the publication of a pamphlet warning of the dangers of a strong Jewish state in the Middle East. It was written by another 'expert', who had been invited to join Section 11/112 by Mildenstein himself. His name was Adolf Eichmann.
If anyone would like to follow my footsteps here I would recommend the following;
The Jews in Germany by H. G. Adler, 1969.
Eichmann in Jerusalem by Hannah Arendt, 1970.
The War Against the Jews by Lucy Dawidowicz, 1975
German and Jew by G. L. Mosse, 1970
Baron von Mildenstein and the SS support of Zionism in Germany, 1934-1936 by Jacob Boas, in History Today, January 1980.
And, of course, the relevant editions of Der Angriff. Clio the Muse 01:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
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