FOK!forum / Misdaad / Madeleine McCann, nog steeds geen nieuws.
kahaarinzondag 28 september 2008 @ 13:32


De termijn om bezwaar in te dienen bij de PJ wegens het sluiten van de zaak was op 20 september verstreken, het wordt meer en meer duidelijk dat er dingen niet kloppen.
met name door de interviews met Amaral, de schrijver van het boek over Maddy, voormalig coordinator van de zaak in Portugal.


Diagram of the McCanns' apartment by Correio da Manhã
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Regarding the diagram, produced by Correio da Manhã, there are a few mistakes: for example, the sofa should be placed under the left window, there, exactly at the middle of the window, human blood and cadaver scent was found. The window in the twins and Maddie's bedroom, which is annotated in the diagram with a dog is wrong - the cadaver scent was found on the opposite side of the apartment, outside, in the small garden or backyard . Through investigation it was established that no one had died in the apartment prior to that day, so the scent and blood, which indicated a partial match to the genetic profile of Madeleine, provides the conviction that she was the one that died there. The closet in the McCanns bedroom was big enough to hide a corpse inside.
Hierboven kun je zien waar de snifferdogs Eddy en Keela hebben gereageerd.


Een uitgebreide timeline:
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Madeleine's timeline for 03 May 2007, based on statements made by Kate and Gerry McCann to the Portuguese police on 04 May 2007

Note: Neither Kate nor Gerry's statements talk explicitly about Madeleine's movements on 03 May, they refer instead to the usual routine and is left to us to presume, rightly or wrongly, that 03 May followed the same course as previous days.

Time Location
07:30 - 09:00 Breakfast in the apartment and preparation for Kids Club
09:00 - 09:30 Gerry takes Madeleine to the Kids Club (Jane Tanner reports that Kate was at the tennis courts during this time with Dianne Webster)
09:30 - 12:30 Kids Club activities
12:30 - 13:30 Collected by parents for lunch in the apartment
13:30 - 14:40 Time spent beside swimming pool with parents (Jane Tanner reports seeing the McCanns and children on the playground beside the tennis courts at 14:00. She says the McCanns stayed there until 14:40, when they took their children back to the Kids Club)
14:40 - 17:00 Return to Kids Club
17:00 - 17:30 Kids Club teatime, at the Tapas restaurant/bar, under the parents supervision. Based on current statements, it is unclear who collected Madeleine. Jane Tanner says she saw Kate jogging on the beach at 17:15.
17:30 - 19:30 The usual routine suggests that Madeleine was allowed to play in the playground area beside the tennis courts, just outside the Tapas bar, under her parents supervision. Tired out, she would then be bathed and made ready for bed. We don't know if that happened on 03 May. But we do know, from CCTV evidence, that the rest of the 'Tapas Seven', with their children, were at the Paraiso restaurant at 17:59 on 03 May and that neither the McCanns, nor their children were there.
18:30 David Payne is alleged to have checked on Kate and seen Madeleine in her pyjamas ready for bed. However, this crucial incident is not mentioned at all by Payne in his first police interview. Neither is it mentioned by anyone else, in the statements we've seen so far.
19:30 - 20:00 Put to bed, with Kate and Gerry waiting until 20:30 before leaving for tapas restaurant and bar
21:05 - 21:15 Observed to be asleep by Gerry McCann
22:00 - 22:30 Reported missing by Kate McCann

Kate McCann's timeline for 03 May 2007, based on statements made by Kate and Gerry McCann to the Portuguese police on 04 May 2007

Note: Neither Kate nor Gerry's statements talk explicitly about their movements on 03 May, they refer instead to the usual routine and is left to us to presume, rightly or wrongly, that 03 May followed the same course as previous days.

Time Location
07:30 - 09:00 Breakfast in the apartment and preparation of children for the Kids Club
09:00 - 09:30 According to Jane Tanner, Kate arrives at the tennis courts at 09:00, with Dianne Webster, and waits for Tanner to finish her lesson at 09:30
09:30 - 10:00 Kate has tennis lesson, with Tanner observing
10:00 - 12:30 ???
12:30 - 13:30 According to the usual routine, the children are collected for lunch back in the apartment - it is not specified who collected them on 03 May.
13:30 - 14:40 Time spent beside swimming pool with the children (Jane Tanner reports seeing the McCanns and children on the playground beside the tennis courts at 14:00. She says the McCanns stayed there until 14:40, when they took their children back to the Kids Club)
14:40 - 15:45 ??? - possibly preparing for/playing tennis with Gerry (see next entry)
15:45 - 17:15 Observed by Jane Tanner to be playing tennis with Gerry at 15:45 - this is not mentioned by either Kate or Gerry in their statements, so it remains unclear when they started and finished.
17:15 - 17:30 Jane Tanner says she saw Kate jogging alone on the beach at 17:15. This was the Kids Club teatime.
17:30 - 19:30 ??? - We know from CCTV evidence that the rest of the 'Tapas Seven', with their children, were at the Paraiso restaurant at 17:59 on 03 May. Neither the McCanns, nor their children were there. In addition, neither Kate nor Gerry offer any clarity on their whereabouts beyond stating that the usual routine was for the children to play for a while in the playground beside the Tapas bar before being bathed and prepared for bed.
18:30 David Payne is alleged to have checked on Kate and found her dressed only in a bath towel. This incident is not mentioned by either Kate or Payne in their first police interviews.
19:30 - 20:30 The children put to bed. Kate and Gerry stay in their apartment to relax until 20:30. Kate took a bath, did her make-up and drank a glass of New Zealand wine with Gerry.
20:30 - 22:00 At the Tapas bar/restaurant (Meal served at 21:00 according to Tanner)
22:00 - 22:30 Undertakes 'check' on Madeleine and reports her missing
Vooralsnog is er op het moment weinig nieuws, enkel een nieuwe sighting in Spanje:
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New Madeleine McCann sighting at Spanish resortBritish holidaymakers claim to have seen a girl resembling missing Madeleine McCann on the Spanish island of Majorca, reports claim.

According to the Sun a UK couple told police of the similarity between a girl seen with two women last Sunday at Cala d'Or.

They only reported the sighting after first returning to their hotel room to check internet pictures of Madeleine.

The Sun said police had so far been unable to locate the girl seen by the UK tourists.

"Officers are looking in hotels and holiday apartments to try to locate the young girl this couple saw," a police source told the tabloid.

"So far we have not been able to find her.

"The couple's account was detailed and there were no contradictions in their statements.

"However, we are aware of the numerous previous sightings all over the world that have turned out to be false and it could well be that the couple have made an honest mistake."

Madeleine was three when she disappeared from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, the Algarve, Portugal, in May last year while her parents Kate and Gerry dined at a nearby restaurant.

There have been hundreds of sightings of Madeleine across Europe and north Africa since she went missing.
Gezien het aantal vieuws en het toch nog af en toe in het nieuws komen van de zaak, met name als Amaral een inteview geeft of er weer een statement wordt afgelegd, de nieuwe sighting in Spanje en het gedoe om het Maddy-fund zou ik toch nog graag een topic openen, als het niet loopt of er niets meer in het nieuws komt over de zaak kan hij dicht, voorlopig is er echter nog bijna dagelijks wel iets in de pers over de zaak en we (Suko en ik zei de gek) hebben gezegd dat we door zouden gaan tot Madeleine gevonden was of er niets meer over de zaak verschijnt, dussss.........
Handige links:

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/?JavaScript=1&search=Madeleine
http://www.mccannfiles.com/index.html
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/
http://the3arguidos.net/viewforum.php?f=1&st=0&sk=t&sd=d&start=0

De voorgaande topics in aflopende volgorde:
* Hopelijk het laatste Maddy McCann topic, maandag is d-day.
* Ouders van Madeleine McCann+Tapas 7 weigeren reconstructie..
* Maddy, nieuwe verhoren van de Tapas 7.
* Maddy, the plot thickens.
* Maddy, the brand new brandname.
* Maddy Mccan - Lekker snuiven met de Tapas 9
* Maddy McCann, de laatste loodjes?
* Maddy MacCann: Loose Change. (15)
* Maddy, the marketing machine and loose ends. (14)
* Maddie McCann: the search continues (13)
* Maddie McCann: Occams razor (12).
* Maddie McCann: Speculaties alom (11)
* Maddie McCann: Thinking the unthinkable (10)
* 'Maddie overleden door slaappillen' (9)
* Madeleine McCann & The Secret Diary (8)
* Madeleine McCann: bezorgde ouders of spin doctors? (7)
* Madeleine McCann: net rond ouders lijkt zich te sluiten (6)
* Madeleine McCann: harde bewijzen tegen ouders (5)
* Madeleine Mccann: Ouders zijn vertrokken uit portugal (4)
* Madeleine McCann: mogelijk binnenkort arrestaties? (3)
* Ouders van Maddie klagen Portugese krant aan (2)
* Verdwijning van Madeleine : Briton Robert Murat, is formal suspect
* Vermist meisje in Portugal is waarschijnlijk begraven.

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door remlof op 19-10-2008 14:02:30 ]
livelinkzondag 28 september 2008 @ 13:44
Toch nog een topic . En net als bij het vorige topic blijf ik tegen beter weten in toch hopen dat het de laatste is.
Het blijft me toch bezighouden. Ik kan het zelf niet verklaren waarom ik dit niet los kan laten. Het heeft te maken met het gevoel dat er klassejustitie plaats heeft gevonden en de verbijstering dat het allang niet meer om Madeleine zelf lijkt te gaan. Ik blijf het dus volgen.
kahaarinzondag 28 september 2008 @ 13:58
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Op zondag 28 september 2008 13:44 schreef livelink het volgende:
Toch nog een topic . En net als bij het vorige topic blijf ik tegen beter weten in toch hopen dat het de laatste is.
Het blijft me toch bezighouden. Ik kan het zelf niet verklaren waarom ik dit niet los kan laten. Het heeft te maken met het gevoel dat er klassejustitie plaats heeft gevonden en de verbijstering dat het allang niet meer om Madeleine zelf lijkt te gaan. Ik blijf het dus volgen.
Inderdaad, Livelink, dat is ook de reden dat ik er nog maar 1 heb geopend, misschien tegen beter weten in maar het blijft een heel vreemde zaak, degene waar het om gaat, Madeleine, is al heel lang een beetje buiten beeld, het gaat nu om gekwetste ego's het winnen van de publieke opinie en tabloid bingo zoals Anorak het uit drukt.
Hoe krijgen ze de zaak in beeld en wie komt er het slechtst af in dat bericht.
Steeds als de boel op een laag pitje komt te staan dan gebeurt er iets, nu weer de sighting in Spanje, weer iemand zijn 15 minutes of fame of toch een serieuze claim......
SunChaserzondag 28 september 2008 @ 14:22
Ha nieuw deeltje
eleusiszondag 28 september 2008 @ 14:30
Ik mis het plaatje met de Tapas bar
Sukozondag 28 september 2008 @ 16:10
Mooi zo Kahaarin!

Wat betreft die sighting, alle sightings eigelijk. Altijd zijn ze maanden later, of there blood is running cold, ze weten zeker dat het Madeleine was etc etc En nu gaan twee vrouwen maar eens eerst uitgebreid op internet zoeken om te kijken of het misschien Madeleine is. Gaan dan terug naar het strand en what do you know, ze zijn weg...Ten eerste is uiterst vreemd dat ze niet eens weten hoe Madeleine er uit ziet, iets wat al 1 1/2 jaar in het nieuws is all over the world, ten tweede had één van hen daar moeten blijven om 'Madeleine' in de gaten te houden en desnoods anderen te alarmeren (iemand heedt echt wel een mobile bij zich), maar nee, niets van dat al. Ten derde, niemand is zo gek om Madeleine zo openbaar mee tenemen en nog weg in een groep. En ten vierde, als dit vrijwel hetzelfde verhaal in zoveel kranten staat dan kan je er donderop zeggen dat de email/fax e.d. van Mitchell weer heftig staat tekeer gaat...Maar ja, iedereen weet onderhand wel hoe het zit, net wat Kahaarin schrijft...Tabloid-bingo. Tjonge...Clarence Mitchell wordt ook een beetje moe geloof, running out of stories, you cheeky devil! Er zijn andere dingen te doen Mitchell, overtuig Kate ervan dat er nog wat vragen liggen, en dat er nog een reconstructie moet worden uitgevoerd etc etc....

Laten we Madeleine zelf eens aan het woord laten...Madeleine McCann: If she could ask questions, what might they be?



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+++ The McCanns Did Not Physically Search for Madeleine +++ (57 sec uit een interview met BBC Jane Hill)
kahaarinzondag 28 september 2008 @ 16:57
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Op zondag 28 september 2008 14:30 schreef soylent het volgende:
Ik mis het plaatje met de Tapas bar
Dat boycot ik,
kahaarinmaandag 29 september 2008 @ 12:04
Nou, de sighting in Spanje is niet zo'n circus als de vorigen, er wordt niet veel over geschreven, de commotie om de vermeende link naar halo3 is wel een hot item blijkbaar, zoals eerder gepost zegt bungie dat het een toeval is. Natuurlijk is men het daar in GB niet mee eens, alle maddie's zijn Madeleine, ook al heet ze niet eens zo (Gone baby gone.) in de film. Tabloid bingo anyone?
http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/191130.html
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Madeleine McCann: Our Danny Baldwin And Using Maddie For PR

MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann

NEW ZEALAND HERALD: “TV Review: Out of the treacle comes trouble for everyone”

If anyone has wondered whatever happened to Coro’s cheeky cockney Danny Baldwin (Bradley Walsh), who went missing from the soap not long ago, here he is…

Where’s Our Danny?

“…playing a cheeky cockney in the missing-child drama Torn, which started on TV One last night.”

Any good?

When Torn screened in Britain a year ago, there was some debate over its merits because of the Madeleine McCann case.

With or without Our Maddie, it was dire… “it was like wading through treacle… Or like running up and down a beach in thick sand.”

PC WORLD (online): “Bungie accused of using Madeleine McCann case to promote Halo – ‘Maddie, where are you?’”

PC World… Isn’t that where Gary Glitter took his hard drive to?

In an unfortunate cross-cultural coincidence, Halo developer Bungie has inadvertently drawn parallels to a famous child abduction case to promote its new Halo 3 expansion pack. In a new teaser trailer, which depicts a war-torn city landscape, various messages flash up on the screen, including one that asks “Maddie, where are you?”

Cross-cultural? Our Maddie is international…

For many people, particularly living in Britain, this seemingly innocuous phrase will bring back memories of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, a three-year old British girl who was allegedly abducted from a Portuguese resort while on holiday with her parents. At the time of the abduction, the slogan “Find Maddie” and “Where’s Maddie?” featured prominently in British newspapers and international publicity campaigns around the world.

Innocuous? A missing child and some PR. What a coincidence, indeed. Still, Halo 3…

Bungie has denied any intent to create publicity by exploiting the McCann disappearance, with a representative claiming “This is both an unfortunate and unintended coincidence” on the official Halo forum.

Of course it is.
Sukomaandag 29 september 2008 @ 22:12
Indeed, "Bungie has denied any intent to create publicity by exploiting the McCann disappearance, with a representative claiming “This is both an unfortunate and unintended coincidence” on the official Halo forum." Of course it is meldt Anorak terecht scherp. Niets is toevallig wat de McCanns cq Madeleine betreft, dat hebben we de afgelopen maaaaanden wel gemerkt. Het heeft alles te maken met marketing, dus geld. Keeping the brand Madeleine alive, met de kleuter zelf heeft het niets te maken, nooit geweest ook.

Maar die techniek is niet nieuw. Laat iets zien wat nauwelijks waarneembaar is maar wordt toch in je kop geplant. Gebeurde al in oorlogsfilms, met een bijna niet te merken propaganda. En natuurlijk reclame, een voobeeldje:
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"Amerikanen zijn als de dood voor zogenaamde onbewuste beïnvloeding. Plaatjes die zo kort in beeld zijn dat je ze niet kunt waarnemen, maar die de bioscoopbezoeker wel aan zouden zetten tot het kopen van popcorn en cola, zorgden in de jaren vijftig al voor ophef. En nadat er een plaatje van een naakte vrouw in Disney’s ‘De Reddertjes’ bleek te zitten, moesten alle exemplaren van deze video uit de winkels worden gehaald. Dat het plaatje zo kort in beeld was dat het tijdens gewoon afdraaien niet te zien was deed er niet toe, want het zou de onbedorven kinderziel wel degelijk onbewust kunnen beïnvloeden.

Voor het aan de man brengen van producten lijkt deze methode echter ideaal. Mensen kunnen niet wegzappen of wegkijken, simpelweg omdat ze het niet zien. Ondertussen doet de boodschap tóch zijn werk. Of onzichtbare reclame echt werkt, is maar moeilijk te testen. Maar een groep Londense onderzoekers is wel weer een stukje dichter bij de ontrafeling van het raadsel van de subliminale beelden gekomen." >>> etc etc
Overigens was er al eerder sprake van een zekere samenwerking tussen Microsoft en de McCanns, er zou een extra Madeleine-button komen in één of andere programma (Facebook of MSN, weet ik niet zeker), heb daar niks meer over gehoord maar mogelijk zijn de contacten 'warm' gebleven. Zoals bekend weet bv Clarence Mitchell als geen ander hoe het publiek te beinvloeden, dat is jaren lang gewoon zijn werk geweest en zijdelings nog steeds en is daarin gewoon één van de beste. Laten we het maar ophouden dat zowel de McCanns als Halo 3 de publiciteit hebben gehaald wat ze helemaal niet erg vinden, integendeel....

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Sukodinsdag 30 september 2008 @ 21:25
Ja ja, of ze gaan aanklagen voor de poen of ze doen niks want de publiciteit is weer mooi meengenomen...imo.
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Parents in appeal to game firm
Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:30
The parents of missing Madeleine McCann are calling for a "Maddie" reference to be removed from a new video game. Game developer Bungie has courted controversy after a teaser trailer for the new Halo 3 Campaign Experience flashed up with the phrase "Maddie, where are you?".

Clarence Mitchell, the spokesman for Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry, said they were aware of the reference. He said: "There is a brief glimpse of the phrase. "If this was designed to be a reference to Madeleine then that would be in very poor taste and deeply disappointing to Kate and Gerry.

"The game manufacturer has said it is a coincidence and we are happy to take that on face value.
"Having said that, we would like the reference to be removed or amended, but I don't know how possible that is." The game is an "expansion pack" to the highly successful Halo 3 – a science fiction shooting game published on the Xbox 360.

The minute-long trailer for the game features pods landing on a futuristic city. The view then moves to a helmet camera. Various messages and phrases flash up on the screen. The Maddie reference is visible for less than a second on three frames, but was spotted by British gamers.

They then posted it up on web forums. Bungie then responded to the concerns on the official Halo forum. A spokesman said: "This is an unfortunate coincidence but there is no connection between Bungie's game and the tragic disappearance of that little girl. "As always, all of the characters in our games are fictional. "Any similarities between real life and the characters in our games are purely coincidental. "That said, this is both an unfortunate and unintended coincidence." Madeleine, from Rothley, was snatched while on holiday in Praia da Luz, Portugal, just a few days before her fourth birthday last May.
Snatched??? Daar is geen enkel bewijs van zoals in het eindrapport is gemeld, integendeel....maar ja, het is dan ook een krant in het verspreidingsgebied van de McConns....The Leicester Mercury .
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En verder zijn er nieuwe foto's opgedoken van Madeleine McCann (met broertje Sean), er was nogal wat geharrewar op het 3arguidoforum waar en wanneer de foto's zijn gemaakt. De poster zelf: "With regards the origins of the pictures, this is the first site anywhere that I have seen them posted on. I should add that the man looks like 'Brian Healy' and not 'Uncle Brian' Kennedy as stated. The pictures came off an interview on CTV that was conducted on the phone between the studio and Aunty Norah in Vancouver. I assume that as the pictures came up during the interview as a visual narrative to accompany the phone conversation, then the pictures probably came from Aunty Norah originally and were emailed as attachments to the studio, for transmission with the interview."

Duidelijk is wel dat ze hoogst waarschijnlijk niet zijn gemaakt tijdens de reis naar Vancouver dit jaar, maar vlak voor de 'vermissing.'



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kahaarinwoensdag 1 oktober 2008 @ 12:10
Oh wat een heerlijk sarcastisch stuk dit:
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Madeleine McCann And The Polish Connection
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann

The New (Poland): “Polish link in missing Madeleine McCann case”

Poland should not miss out…

Police in Poland have investigated whether a Polish couple from Warsaw were involved in the kidnapping of the four-year old British girl Madeleine McCann in May 2007.

Poland…

“Two days after the kidnapping, Portuguese authorities asked us for help looking for the missing girl. According to their information, a Polish married couple were staying in the same hotel as the McCanns at that time,” a source within the Polish state prosecutor’s office has revealed to tvp.info Internet service.

Polish…

The source also told the service that Portuguese investigators wanted the Warsaw police to immediately search the Polish couple’s flat to look for any clues.

Search their flat… because they are Polish..?

“We could not agree to that, because the mere fact that they were staying at the same place was not enough evidence,” the source explained.

But they’re Polish…

But tvp.info reporters have found out that the police in Warsaw did put the Polish couple under discreet police surveillance. As a result, any links between them and the missing Madeleine were disproved.

Such are the facts…
Het zal mij benieuwen hoe lang het duurt voordat dit nieuws opduikt in de McCann secties van het internet nieuws:
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Ruim 120 arrestaties bij actie tegen kinderporno

MADRID - De Spaanse politie heeft 121 arrestaties verricht in een landelijke actie tegen kinderporno. De internetuitgave van het dagblad El Mundo berichtte woensdag dat miljoenen opnames en foto's in beslag zijn genomen. Daar zitten ook beelden bij die „uitzonderlijke agressie tegen kinderen tonen”.

Het onderzoek in deze 'operatie Carrusel' is vorig jaar zomer begonnen in samenwerking met de Braziliaanse federale politie. Er is een netwerk op het internet ontdekt waar pedofiele opnames werden uitgewisseld in circa 75 landen.

Onder de arrestanten zijn figuren van zeer uiteenlopende achtergrond en leeftijd, aldus de Spaanse recherche.
Sukowoensdag 1 oktober 2008 @ 21:23
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Op woensdag 1 oktober 2008 12:10 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Oh wat een heerlijk sarcastisch stuk dit:
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Het zal mij benieuwen hoe lang het duurt voordat dit nieuws opduikt in de McCann secties van het internet nieuws:
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Ha ha, ja mooi stuk, ook de commentaren, zoals deze, heerlijk:
* And are the Polish particularly swarthy ? And do they have faces ?They do dig up a lot of roads, so perhaps that is suspicious.
* Incredibly suspicious, I think you will agree…
* Wasnt it Brandon who knew a lot about polish?
* Jo, And Australians!
* polish and dusting, i think it was.
* Weren’t they called curly and wurly ?
* Curlish, Wurlish and Swarthish may be? I see we are getting nearer to THE truth… and only THE truth.


Verder (nog) geen connectie gelezen met de McCanns rondom die afschuwelijke kinderporno-zaak in Spanje waarbij ook een aantal familieleden hun 'eigen' materiaal produceerden.... Overigens hadden die Spaanse knakkers van Retardo Metodo 3 hier een vette slag mede mee kunnen maken, maar ja, die hebben van de McCanns Brian Kennedy een andere opdracht in the pocket....Iemand spreekt hier Gerry McCann direct op aan nav dit bericht op Sky: "...and it makes me wonder how much longer news outlets like Sky can continue to report this type of thing on the one hand and their assertion that Madeleine McCann was snatched by paedos on the other hand without questioning why her image isn't ever found amongst the millions of images seized! Come on, Gerry...you seem to think you are the world's foremost expert on paedo gangs and stranger abductions...tell us why Madeleine's image is the only one not being traded by these sickos!"
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En om wat tegenwicht te krijgen en het internet-archief aan te vullen:
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Was it the Portuguese and English governments that decided to sabotage the investigation and to get the McCanns “off the hook”?
by Domingos Amaral*
Now that the Maddie case has been archived by the Public Ministry due to a lack of evidence; now that the process has been opened for public consultation; and now that the PJ inspector who coordinated the investigation, Gonçalo Amaral, has already published a book about the issue, it has become possible to list my conclusions about the case. Here they are:

1 – Contrary to what was suggested by the British press, which presented him as a negligent policeman who spent his life in long lunches, washed down with plenty of wine, and with little investigative capacity, the impression that I got from Gonçalo Amaral, both from the tv interviews and from reading the book, is that he coordinated a competent investigation, that followed the rules, that was neither biased nor tendentious, and that he did everything to crack the case.

2 – All the evidence that was collected by the PJ pointed, right from the first days onward, to the little girl’s death inside the apartment and the subsequent concealment of the cadaver, probably by her parents.

3 – The indicia that was collected, both from witnesses, and later from the DNA tests, pointed into that same direction.

4 – The behaviour of the little girl’s parents’ friends is very strange. There are contradictory depositions that seem to have been “built” to lead the PJ into the direction of the abduction theory. On the other hand, the fact that all of the friends abandoned Portugal in a hurry is extremely disturbing.

5 – The manner in which the little girl’s parents behave, speaking to Sky News on the same day and transforming the case into a media event, obviously forcing the abduction theory, is extremely surprising. It does not seem normal to me that a father and a mother, when confronted with the disappearance of a daughter, establish as their first and only priority to transform the case into a worldwide media event.

6 – Since the first hour, the English press accepted the abduction theory, which was communicated to them by the parents, without judgment. Like a brainless flock, they fell on Praia da Luz exercising enormous pressure on the PJ, suggesting that Portugal is a third world country, and complicating the investigation. We remember that it was an English journalist that “invented” the suspicions about Robert Murat, thus forcing the PJ to investigate him and to waste time with a situation that was lateral, but which suited the parents’ purpose.

7 – The fact that the little girl’s father is a personal friend to Prime Minister Gordon Brown led to the English government making available to the parents, media specialists who built and forced the abduction theory. It was a highly professional operation that used sophisticated marketing techniques, in the press and on the internet, with meetings with international personalities, which culminated with the visit to the Pope in the Vatican.

8 – This remarkable public campaign was accompanied by a political pressure behind the scenes, with the English government exerting pressure on the Portuguese government, in the direction of the abduction theory.

9 – For many months, it was evident that the PJ had lost the public opinion battle and that it was not prepared to handle a media and political pressure of such proportion. In terms of public communication, the case was very badly managed by the PJ and by the Public Ministry.

10 – Despite these tremendous political and media pressures, the investigation proceeded on the terrain and was approaching important conclusions, which clearly pointed to the parents’ guilt, at least of the crime of cadaver concealment.

All of these conclusions lead me to formulate two questions: Why were the directory of the PJ and the Public Ministry incapable of having the courage to accuse the parents, like the investigation suggested? Was it the Portuguese and the English governments that decided to sabotage the investigation and to let the parents “off the hook”?

Some day the truth will emerge, but for me, and even without bulletproof evidence, a case like this should never have been archived and those parents should be tried in court. source: Diário Económico, 01.10.2008 *Portuguese journalist and author. By Astro. Bron: NHS & The McCanns: Abuse of Power
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>>> Kate and Gerry McCann - 'why would that be our fault?' <<<

[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Suko op 01-10-2008 21:39:12 ]
Sukodonderdag 2 oktober 2008 @ 20:43
Clarence Mitchell gaat weer 'spreken' en ook nu weer zal iedereen aan z'n lippen hangen, vermoedelijk. Tussen aanhalingstekens is commentaar van de bron zelf:
Spokesman of McCann guest of the British Society of Editors
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Clarence Mitchell, spokesperson for Kate and Gerry McCann, is one of the guests of honour for the next annual conference of the Society of British Editors, where the former director of the Media Monitoring Unit is scheduled as a speaker.

Amongst the other speakers, is Sly Bailey, boss of the Mirror Group, Carolyn McCall, Director General of Guardian Media, Paul Dacre, editor of the Daily Mail, and Christopher Meyer, President of the Press Complaints Commission.

The Society of Editors is an organisation that brings together more than 400 members and that, according to its internet site, defends values like the universal right to freedom of expression and the right of the public to be informed.

(Editor's note: Ok then, Clarence, why not stand up there and maintain those lofty principles by telling the public why the McCanns did not return to Portugal to help the police with a reconstruction of the events surrounding their daughter's disappearance?

Tell us, Clarence, why the McCanns allowed stories of sightings to be published when they knew they had been investigated and ruled out? It's all in the case files. And while you're at it, Clarrie, how did Kate know for sure that Madeleine had been abducted? Why was she absolutely sure that Madeleine could not have got out of her bed and walked out of the unlocked door? Just a few Clarence for you to be getting on with. I am sure there are lots more questions that people want answers to, answers the public, with their right to be informed, have not been given.)


In the case of Madleine's disappearance, the McCanns' spokesmen and lawyers have maintained regular contact with editors and directors of the major British newspapers. * On September 12th 2007, after Kate and Gerry McCann were officially constituted as arguidos, Justine McGuiness, their then spokesperson, and their lawyer Angus McBride, met with several editors and directors to whom they explained that the fact that the Portuguese authorities had not found Madeleine's body was the best proof of the couple's innocence.

(Editor's note: And the British editors and directors did not come up with a few cases to prove this was not how the law works? No body proves innocence? And Angus McBride, a lawyer, actually put his name to this bollox? Some things, as the cliché goes, you just couldn't make up!)

The next conference of British editors will take place at the Marriot Royal Hotel in Bristol, from 9th to 11th November. Vertaald van een artikel geplaatst door Duarte Levy
Link naar dat artikel waar de McCanns verklaren, September 29, 2007: "Find the body and prove we killed her." Bewaard op een blog want natuurlijk is dat artikel nergens meer in de Britse online-pers te vinden....Maar wat een belachelijk, berekenend én veelzeggend statement van toen de PR-dame Justine McGuiness, ook in sept 2007, omdat het lichaampje niet is gevonden dat dat het beste bewijs is dat de McCanns onschuldig zijn. (Er zijn tig strafzaken waarbij de verdachten werden veroordeeld ondanks dat het slachtoffer niet/nooit is gevonden) Hebben we dat maar met de McCanns afgesproken vorig jaar September??? Vanaf toen, Sept 2007, veranderde de toon ook van de Britse pers ná de ontmoeting met de editors, iets wat ze nog steeds doen, beppen met de editors and directors of the major British newspapers. De UK qua pers zou niet misstaan in het Oostblok.

Puntje nog: waar staat die British Society of Editors voor:
  • The universal right to freedom of expression
  • The importance of the vitality of the news media in a democratic society
  • The promotion of press and broadcasting freedom and the public’s right to know
  • The commitment to high editorial standards

    What a joke...

    Op 10 nov a.s. staat het volgende op de agenda van die club: 5.00 pm The big stories of the past year: the McCanns, Prince Harry and the Credit Crunch. Did we get the balance right?

    Ben zeer benieuwd naar de uitkomst...

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    >>> Kate and Gerry McCann - 'why would that be our fault?' <<<

    [ Bericht 4% gewijzigd door Suko op 02-10-2008 21:09:45 (agendapunt toegevoegd) ]
  • huntemzaterdag 4 oktober 2008 @ 20:05
    Het blijft een rare zaak...
    Sukozondag 5 oktober 2008 @ 13:20
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    Op zaterdag 4 oktober 2008 20:05 schreef huntem het volgende:
    Het blijft een rare zaak...
    Dat is het zeker. Daarom is deze kwestie nog steeds in de actualiteit. Niet (meer) vanwege Madeleine, bijna niemand gelooft meer dat ze in leven is. In feite is zij één van de velen die vermist is, helaas. Maar het is uniek te noemen dat een paar dokters als ouders en niet eens bijzonder, Kate McCann is parttime huisarts en Gerry McCann is Consultant Cardiologist (wie heeft ooit van die twee gehoord voor de vermissing, mogelijk moord of dood door schuld) er mee weg komen met behulp van de Britse overheid tot aan PM Gordon Brown aan toe. En waarom heeft men een PR-man (werkte eerst voor de overheid) ingehuurd als je niks te verbergen hebt? Van enige Britse medewerking om dit mysterie op te lossen is geen sprake, integendeel. En dát is eigenlijk de issue, waarom is er zoveel energie in gestoken om de Portugese onderzoekers zo dwars te zitten, niets qua achtergronden van de McCanns/Madeleine en hun vakantievrienden mocht worden onderzocht in de UK, ook de verzoeken vooraf voor enige info (die niet werden gehonereerd) duurden maaaaaanden, kostbare verloren tijd ging verloren. DNA-onderzoeken in de UK waren eerst nogal overtuigend, enige tijd later niet meer en onderzocht materiaal kwijtgemaakt' en/of tijdens onderzoeken vernietigd. Getuigen liegen en/of worden geintimeerd. En binnen een week na de 'vermissing' werd een fonds opgericht en een website opgezet, dat doet denken dat de McCanns niet verwachten dat Madeleine spoedig zou worden gevonden. In het eindrapport van het Portugese onderzoek werd verder vastgesteld dat er geen sprake is van een ontvoering, daar zijn geen bewijzen voor gevonden. Op 2 okt 2007 werd na één telefoontje van Gordon Brown, de leider van het politie-onderzoek, Gonçalo Amaral, van z'n positie ontheven, net op het moment dat hij bezig was met het onderzoeken van een aantal aanwijzingen. Heeft daarna ontslag genomen en een boek geschreven The Truth Of The Lie. Snippers (voorpublicaties) daaruit zijn reeds gepubliceerd in een aantal vorige delen van dit topic. Amaral meent dat Madeleine in het vakantie-apartement van de McCanns is gestorven en dat de ouders schuldig zijn aan een cover-up. Hij is op tour en steeds meer geeft hij iets prijs in interviews, speldenprikjes ook naar de McCanns. Het boek komt ook uit in de UK, de McCanns denken hem aan te klagen, iets wat Amaral helemaal niet erg vindt, laten ze maar uitleggen wat er niet waar is in zijn boek, hij geeft in hoofdzaak de feiten weer zoals ze zijn opgeschreven door de PJ. Dat wordt nog spannend straks....Hij concludeert verder dat dit geen politie-zaak is maar verworden tot een politieke kwestie.
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    Op de site van Joana Morais
    quote:
    Amaral in Vigo: 'Madeleine's parents are suspected of hiding the body'

    The policeman who handled the McCann case, before being removed, affirmed that there are indications of negligence.

    F. FRANCO / VIGO Before being removed from the investigation of the Madeleine case, the policemen who were involved came to very firm conclusions. Madeleine died in the apartment of the Ocean Club, there was a simulation of an abduction, the McCann couple are suspected of participating in the concealment of the body, death could have occurred as a result of a tragic accident and there is evidence of negligence in the care and safety of the children.

    These are the final theses defended by Gonçalo Amaral, the inspector removed from the so-called Madeleine case, the child who disappeared in the Algarve on May 3, 2007. The Coordinator of the investigation yesterday opened the new season at the FARO Club with a lecture - "The Truth of the Madeleine Mystery," after being introduced by the FARO journalist, Ujué Foces. Along the same lines and responding to a question, Amaral made it clear: "If I had done the politically correct thing I would not have had to retire but a criminal investigation is only committed to the truth. It should not be concerned about political correctness. But in this case other, not strictly police issues, have prevailed."

    Amaral suspects that, five months after the incident took place on May 3, Portuguese political power had already decided on a strategy. "For me, the investigation was dead from October 2nd 2007, following a new English ultimatum. I have the feeling that the statements made by the national director of our national police sought to prepare public opinion for the inevitable, that is to say, the end of the investigation and the filing of the case."

    Responding to different questions, some generalisations, others specific, including some from Rosa Neira, the mother of the Vigo resident Déborah, who appeared dead in bizarre circumstances, Amaral also gave his impression on the McCann couple, the parents of the girl. "They are normal people, parents who have lost a daughter whom they certainly loved very much and for whom they have cried, and they feel guilty for that. The father wanted to save at least the rest of the family, the children who are left."

    The inspector was referring to the possible negligence for having left the children alone while they had a system of checking every so often but, above all, the suspicion of the concealment of the body falling on them.

    Amaral said that the fact that McCanns would be considered as "charged" created a turning point in the investigation between the Portuguese and English police. "There was a spoken understanding between two policemen to continue the line of investigation seriously, facing the possibility that her death had occurred in the apartament but, suddenly, the English changed course without any coherent technical explanation. It was always strange how the couple were treated, even after they were considered suspects, and the police information to which they occasionally had access."

    Concerning the participation of the media he said that "a global phenomenon occurred, never before seen, in which the British press acted with very suspicious organisation, maintaining the thesis of the abduction. They said many things, truths and lies, and attended, in addition to the duty of information, disinformation campaigns that sought to discredit the criminal investigation and those responsible for them, considering them as a Third World country."

    Questions that he had asked himself were reported or left hanging in the air: "How is it possible that a criminal investigation questions Portuguese justice, the Judicial Police and police cooperation between two countries with one of the oldest alliances in the world? What powers hindered and harmed such research? There is something disproportionate in this whole case... " Source: Faro de Vigo. Translation by Ines.
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    Een poster vraagt zich terecht af: 2.10.08 Bron
    Gordon Brown and the sinister government involvement in the Madeleine McCann case

    Here's a very good post from 'Malena Stool' at The 3 Arguidos:

    Whatever the political reasoning behind the cover up of a missing 3 year old child goes across the whole spectrum of party politics, and may even involve the Official Secrets Act. Otherwise why are the opposition parties themselves not beating a path to Brown's door clamouring for answers from Brown and hastening the departure from power of the most odious and deceitful regime to be involved in an English Parliament?

    1. Just what hot potato is being tossed around causing D Notices to be slapped on the media reporting the truth?
    2. Why were MI6 involved from the outset?
    3. Why were the media allowed and encouraged to print blatant lies, xenophobic and libellous statements about Portugal, a sovereign and friendly state, indeed the oldest ally this nation has?
    4. Would they have been permitted to print such criminally stupid garbage if Madeleine had gone missing in America?
    5. Why wasn't Murat afforded the same embassy support as the parents who were also acknowledged as suspects? (Murat was however, only fingered as a suspect by a reporter and friends of the parents )
    6. Why did the Foreign Office interfere with and delay the passing of multiple items of information between UK and Portuguese police forces which may have been instrumental in locating the missing child?
    7. Why was the evidence of Eddy and Keela trashed?
    8. Why was the FSS evidence trashed?
    9. Why was Brown involved with the dismissal of Amaral?

    This is by no means a complete list of WHYS, just all I could put together in a 5 minute rant.

    Brown should come clean and tell the nation what or who is being covered up and why. Madeleine, a 3 year old child when disappearing, deserves that much respect at least.

    Discussion at The 3 Arguidos here and here.

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    yyentlezondag 5 oktober 2008 @ 18:49
    Jullie gaan weer door.
    kahaarindinsdag 7 oktober 2008 @ 12:44
    Hey hoi hallo, ben weer terug van een weekeindje weg.
    Ik kwam deze nog tegen, een rondje anorak, heerlijk neerbuigend maar helaas verder geen nieuws....
    Suko, is er nog iets gekomen uit de vertalingen van de Portugezen of zijn ze daar nog mee bezig? Het was wel heel veel natuurlijk.....
    quote:

    Madeleine McCann: Paedos From Lamp-Posts, Hating Fiona Philips And JonBenet Ramsey
    MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann

    QUEENSFERRY GAZETTE (Scotland): “We’ve been ad”

    A CONCERNED mum has spoken out about the potential hazards posed by new outdoor advertising boards. Janette Sheppard is also worried that other parents may think the boards are simply lamp-posts.

    Lamp-posts, for paedos to hide behind… Like those (G)litter bins…

    She said: “These have just sprung up – one is outside my son’s primary school. At first glance it would be easy to mistake them for lamp-posts, but they are actually advertising boards.”

    The wonders of modern technology. Who would have thunk it. Go on…

    “There is a small electronic strip at the top which could be used by the council to post information if a child goes missing. I believe the council also gets some revenue from the boards.”

    Making money from missing kiddies. For shame!

    “My concern, as a parent, is if the council thinks it’s appro-priate to put one of these boards outside a primary school. Our kids are already inundated with advertising – do they really need more? And what kind of advertising is it going to be?”

    Sweets. Peados. Guns. Snuff movies. You know, the usual kids’ stuff…

    A West Lothian Council spokesperson said: “The new signs are part of the Amberwatch system, which is designed to allow urgent safety messages to be relayed instantly to the local community. The similar Amber Alerts system in America has been credited with helping locate over 100 missing children, and the parents of Madeline McCann have campaigned to have such a system installed across Europe.”

    So there it is. It’s there to advertise when a child goes missing; and when a child doesn’t go missing…

    DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Review: My Sister, My Love by Joyce Carol Oates”

    Review: My Sister, My Love by Joyce Carol Oates - The unsolved murder of a child star is too close to real events for David Robson

    A child star… Get ready to be entertained…

    Novels based on real-life crime stories always leave a slightly queasy taste. Novels based on unsolved real-life crime stories leave an even queasier one.

    Hands over mouths; heres it comes…

    There are probably writers already working on fictionalisations of the abduction of Madeleine McCann, but it is hard to feel much respect for them.

    They don’t do it for the respect. They do it for the money; like the newspapers…

    The same applies, mutatis mutandis, to this ethically questionable piece by Joyce Carol Oates, inspired by a crime that was the talk of America in 1996, when a six-year-old child beauty pageant contestant called JonBenet Ramsey was found brutally murdered in the basement of her parents’ house in Colorado.

    DAILY STAR: “THAT’S VERY IRRITATING - FIONA IS BRITS’ MOST HATED CELEB”

    IT’S Fiona Philips, GMTV’s soon-to-be ex-self-righteous-Labour-cheering-ultra-violet-toothed-baby-boasting-braying-nodding-head.

    FIONA Phillips is more annoying than the washout summer, chavs and Heather Mills.

    Mills isn’t annoying; Mills is entertaining.

    Her on-screen gaffes include telling the parents of missing Madeleine McCann: “There are light moments. You’ve acquired this odd celebrity status.”

    A gaffe? No way. This is the highest praise possible in the GMTV lexicon. GMTV renders everything it touches a celebrity: car crash victim, prime minister, doctor etc. are all touched by the GMTV celebrity wand. A celebrity… nothing bigger, nor better…

    100 MOST ANNOYING THINGS FOR 2008

    1. Benefit scroungers
    2. The credit crunch
    3. Tailgaters
    4. Cold callers
    5. People reading over your shoulder
    6. Gordon Brown
    7. Fiona Phillips
    8. Being bloated
    9. Rising fuel prices
    10. Falling house prices
    11. The wet summer
    12. Middle lane drivers
    13. Constipation
    14. Bossiness
    15. Slow internet connections
    16. Being put on hold
    17. Pregnant women smoking
    18. Someone nicking your parking spot
    19. Stepping in dog poo
    20. Jehovah’s Witnesses
    21. Debt companies advertising on TV
    22. Skinny people who complain they are fat
    23. Queue jumpers
    24. Bullying
    25. Noisy neighbours
    26. Nosey neighbours
    27. People parking in disabled bays when they aren’t disabled
    28. Junk mail
    29. Snobs
    30. Noisy eaters
    31. Dog owners who don’t clean up after their pets
    32. People putting our Olympic achievements down
    33. Novelty ringtones
    34. Automated phone systems
    35. Chavs
    36. People who walk slowly
    37. People who take their kids to shops and let them run riot
    38. Amy Winehouse
    39. Sienna Miller’s love life
    40. Rude shop staff
    41. Wasps
    42. Diarrhoea
    43. Cristiano Ronaldo
    44. People who have their mobile turned off when you really need to get hold of them
    45. Dannii Minogue
    46. Mosquitoes
    47. Kids kicking the back of your chair on a plane
    48. Hangovers
    49. The hot water running out when you want to take a bath
    50. Busses not arriving on time
    51. Heather Mills
    52. James Blunt
    53. Reformed smokers
    54. People talking on their mobile on public transport
    55. Headaches
    56. The smoking ban
    57. Toothache
    58. Litter bugs
    59. Spots
    60. People who write “text back” in texts
    61. Scientology
    62. Russell Brand
    63. Screaming kids
    64. Alistair Darling
    65. Traffic wardens
    66. Americans
    67. Roadworks
    68. Big Brother
    69. Pete Doherty
    70. Runny nose
    71. PDAs (public displays of affection)
    72. Flat tyres
    73. Ashley Cole
    74. Tax returns
    75. Finding out that you’ve run out of toilet paper when you really need
    the loo
    76. Boasters
    77. Not having change when you really need it
    78. Carol Vorderman
    79. Paper cuts
    80. Stepping in chewing gum
    81. Bad hair days
    82. Charley Uchea off Big Brother
    83. Mothers-in-law
    84. Cashiers giving you your change on top of a receipt
    85. Posh Spice
    86. CDs that jump
    87. Stubbing your toe
    88. Getting something in your eye
    89. Losing your glasses
    90. Cat hair that sticks to your clothes
    91. Children who cough in your face
    92. Losing your passport
    93. People ramming the back of your heels with trolleys
    94. Rubbish opening times at doctors and dentists
    95. Kate Garraway
    96. email spam
    97. People using mobiles in the quiet carriage on the train
    98. People who don’t remove their shoes in the house
    99. Naomi Campbell
    100. Troublesome computer printers


    And so on…
    Sukodinsdag 7 oktober 2008 @ 13:07
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    Op zondag 5 oktober 2008 18:49 schreef yyentle het volgende:
    Jullie gaan weer door.
    Middag Yyentle, Kahaarin en de rest. Jammer dat Anorak in die top 100 deze miste, zoals een poster aanvulde:"101 The Mc Canns 102 The media 103 The tappas9." Verder terecht over die boards, only in de US zullen we maar denken...raar volk. Die vertalingen uit het Portugees schieten niet echt op, ze zijn veelal gescand op die DVD's van de PJ, een duivels werk dat uit te zoeken kennelijk. Voorlopig kan ik er geen chocola van maken. Bovendien vind ik het vervelend afhankelijk te zijn van een paar vertalers waarvan je niet weet of alles correct wordt weergegeven. Eén verkeerd woord of zin kan een wereld van verschil maken. Er is wel een centraal topic: Laffin Assasin's Reports on the DVD Heb het eigenlijk niet doorgenomen, te veel pagina's.

    @ Yyentle. Er was best nog wel ruimte voor nog een deeltje alhoewel het nieuws wat karig is geworden. Sommige posters elders suggereren dat de McCanns misschien met een boek bezig zijn, iets wat ze al eerder van plan waren. Zou best kunnen, mogelijk wachten ze op het uitkomen in de UK van Amaral's boek... Of ze zijn het land uit gevlucht, men is het stel spuugzat zo onderhand. Niet voor niets is er in hun straat(je) in Rothley een aantal huizen te koop.

    Anyway, ik herhaal nog maar eens het verhaal (gedocumenteerd in de PJ-files en gepubliceerd in de Correio da Manhã in juli van dit jaar) over vriend en vakantiegenoot David Payne die mogelijk wat pedo-neigingen heeft en ook over vriend en peetoom van de twins Jon Corner, die vorig jaar een docu over en met de McCanns maakte. Ook eerder in dit topic gepost.
    Drs David Payne and Gerry McCann, Leicester Royal Infirmary, suspected of paedophilia
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    Twelve days after Maddie disappeared, a couple revealed the strange behaviour of one of the group’s members. Testimonies only reached the Judiciária in January this year

    David Payne, one of the McCanns’ friends that were on holidays in the Algarve on the 3rd of May last year, when Madeleine disappeared, was suspected of paedophile behaviours.

    The accusations were brought by a couple of friends that spent their holidays with part of the group in the summer of 2005 – themselves also English doctors. Twelve days after the British girl disappeared, Katherina and Arul could no longer keep the secret that had bothered them for two years and went to the police to make a statement. They revealed two conversations between Dave and Gerry, during which both revealed suspicious behaviour and indiciated sex with minors.

    According to what CM was able to establish, the depositions were given on the 16th of May. But they only entered the process in January 2008 and are included in the 13th volume of the process files. At that point in time, Kate and Gerry were already arguidos, the rogatory letters had already been issued and the English, including Dave, showed their reluctance in returning to Portugal.

    Touching the nipple

    Katherina made a statement that was eight pages long. She reported holidays in Mallorca with several English [people], including the McCanns and the Paynes. Two incidents left her with serious doubts about the friends’ behaviour and lead her to create suspicions that were never confirmed.

    The first one happened on a night when Gerry and Dave were talking about Maddie. Katherina does not know what they were saying but she remembers that Dave sucked on his fingers, pushing them into the mouth and pulling them out again, while his other hand traced a circle around the nipple, with a circular movement over the clothes. “That was done in a provocative manner”, recalls Katherina, who says that it stuck to her memory.

    Days later, the scene repeated itself. The doctor saw Dave making the same gestures again, while he talked about his own daughter. Scared, Katherina said nothing about the incident. But she took special caution, asking her husband never to let the doctor come close to the bathroom when her daughter was having a bath.

    Arul went to the police to tell the same story. Katherina’s companion confirmed the gestures that were made by Dave during the conversation with Gerry but asserted that he wasn’t aware that they were talking about Maddie. He did find the behaviour in extremely bad taste, but didn’t see it being repeated.

    The incident ended up forgotten in his memory and it was only the disappearance of Madeleine, who had also been with them on the Mallorca vacation, that revived it.

    During the deposition, Katherina went even further and said she had associated the gestures to someone who likes to watch child pornography. “I remember thinking whether he looked at the girls in a different manner”, she concluded.

    more details here

    Source: Correio da Manhã 19.07.2008, paper edition. Translations by forum posters Kazlux and Astro (here).
    En dan wat vreemde uitspraken van die Jon Corner:
    quote:
    Link: Jon Corner: Maddie was "SO BEAUTIFUL" with "SPECIAL QUALITY"

    Jon Corner's very strange comment in Vanity Fair about three year old Maddie: “So beautiful, astonishingly bright, and I’d have to say very charismatic. She would shine out of a crowd,” family friend Jon Corner says of the child. “So—God forgive me—maybe that’s part of the problem. That special quality. Some bastard picked up on that.”

    Vanity Fair article

    Discussion at The 3 Arguidos here
    En dat er onder dokters ook pedofielen zitten is allang bekend, een artikel: Nine UK doctors suspended after viewing child pornography. Bron

    Het blijven merkwaardige foto's van Madeleine...



    (veel foto's hier).

    Eerdere interviews met Amaral:
    Amaral in Vigo: “In the Madeleine Case Politics Aborted the Police Investigation”
    Amaral in Vigo: “Justice is Possible for Madeleine McCann”
    Amaral in Vigo: 'Madeleine's parents are suspected of hiding the body'

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    A detailed look at the events that unfolded during the early days of August when the specialist British sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, arrived in Portugal. McCannfiles.
    Sukodinsdag 7 oktober 2008 @ 22:35
    En verder viel het al op dat Paulo Reis lange tijd niet meer met nieuws kwam, hij is ook in het bezit van die dvd's. Hij was met vakantie en heeft nu een baan als editor of a local Portuguese daily newspaper. En wat hier van te denken, als hij blijft publiceren over deze zaak dan wordt hij voor het gerecht gesleept...
    News after a long absence
    quote:
    Since early September, my activity in this page has been reduced. I came to Macau, on holidays, and I decided to accept a job offer. It is a full-time job, as editor of a local Portuguese daily newspaper, and I've been quite busy. I will keep posting, about Madeleine's case (*) but not with the same regularity. Soon, I'll have some interesting news, after a long and detailed analysis of the attendance sheets from the Ocean Club crèches. One of the aspects that surprised me is the fact that several registrations, on those sheets, have the time (and signatures) when children (not the McCann's kids...) were left there, but no signature and no mention about the time they went out. This detail raises doubts about the level of control that Ocean Club staff had, concerning children in their crèches. Either the control was not as good as they referred, or there is something strange with those attendance sheets.

    (*) I received a letter from Carter-Ruck, threatening to take me to court, if I don't stop immediately writing about the case - something I have no intention to do.
    Reacties zijn verder hier te lezen. Dat Carter-Ruck is een bureau van media-advocaten die de McCanns al een tijd geleden heeft ingehuurd...Onlangs nog over Kate's Dagboek (geld gedoneerd in hun fonds), en excuses van de Daily Express, ook weer geld aan dat fonds gedoneerd.

    Zo en wanneer slepen ze Gonçalo Amaral voor de rechtbank???? Zouden ze toch echt doen volgens Mitchell: ""Kate and Gerry are looking and watching at everything he does and will not hesitate to take legal action against him if he continues to act in this sickening manner." Last week Kate herself spoke angrily about Amaral. She said: "As a professional and a person he has been a disgrace." The Mirror vorige maand. Amaral heeft toch echt hele rake uitspraken gedaan: "Madeleine died in the apartment of the Ocean Club, there was a simulation of an abduction, the McCann couple are suspected of participating in the concealment of the body, death could have occurred as a result of a tragic accident and there is evidence of negligence in the care and safety of the children." Bron

    Maar nee, dan moeten ze met de billlen bloot, lafbekken. En wanneer geeft iemand van hen eens een interview? Eerst was het een 'pact of silence' zei een vriend tijdens die arguido-periode van de McCanns en mochten ze ook niks zeggen, behalve natuurlijk de PJ/Amaral en het land als geheel te kakken zetten... Maar nu ze vrij en mogelijk blij zijn, waar blijven ze nu dan????? Waar is het wachten op????? Speak up!

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    A detailed look at the events that unfolded during the early days of August when the specialist British sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, arrived in Portugal. McCannfiles.
    Sukovrijdag 10 oktober 2008 @ 21:14
    Na alle prikjes richting de McCanns van Amaral via interviews komt er nu een documentaire waarbij het boek 'The Truth of The Lie' van voormalig leider van het politieonderzoek, Goncalo Amaral, de basis is:
    quote:
    Filming for next 20 days Correio da Manhã
    * Maddie: Documentary for TV
    Paulo Marcelino 10 October 2008 - 00h30
    The book 'Maddie - The Truth of Lie' is the starting point for a documentary that is being filmed in the Algarve over the next 20 days. Goncalo Amaral, coordinator of the PJ in the process and author of the book, is not the only character to appear in the TV production.

    The documentary will be produced by Manuel Fonseca, of Valentine de Carvalho, and most of the filming will take place in Perth and in Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann disappeared from on May 3, 2007. "First we will work and then make statements. The formal announcement will be at another time," said Manuel Fonseca to CM, producer of films such as 'Koko' and 'The Private Life of Salazar'.

    Goncalo Amaral coordinated the first five months of the investigation, in one of the most media focussed cases ever. The inquiry eventually ended, this summer, at which time the former coordinator published his book, a pioneering work of police revelation that has sold about 200 thousand copies in Portugal. It has been on sale since September in Spain and will soon be published in Denmark, Sweden and Norway. "Everyone likes to see their work valued," said Goncalo Amaral, about the purpose of the documentary. Bron: McCannfiles
    Hopelijk ook mettertijd in Nederland te zien, zonder geknip!!!! Mogelijk wordt er een reconstructie van die avond qua checks van de kids nagespeeld etc etc.

    En verder een eerste analyse van de gegevens die tot nu toe bekend zijn en loopt van sept 2007 t/m febr t/m 2008. Bijeengebracht door Luz, poster van het 3arguidoforum: PJ FILES: Sep 2007 (PT/UK) / Feb2008(PT) - Analysis Reports Het zou fijn als al het geteut er tussen wordt weggehaald, nu worden topics onnodig lang en bijna niet meer te volgen. Ergerlijk ook dat er steeds posters (trollen) proberen het onderwerp te draaien, aandacht afleiden, ook in andere topics...grrr.

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    A detailed look at the events that unfolded during the early days of August when the specialist British sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, arrived in Portugal. McCannfiles.
    kahaarinzaterdag 11 oktober 2008 @ 17:37
    quote:
    Op vrijdag 10 oktober 2008 21:14 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Na alle prikjes richting de McCanns van Amaral via interviews komt er nu een documentaire waarbij het boek 'The Truth of The Lie' van voormalig leider van het politieonderzoek, Goncalo Amaral, de basis is:
    [..]

    Hopelijk ook mettertijd in Nederland te zien, zonder geknip!!!! Mogelijk wordt er een reconstructie van die avond qua checks van de kids nagespeeld etc etc.

    En verder een eerste analyse van de gegevens die tot nu toe bekend zijn en loopt van sept 2007 t/m febr t/m 2008. Bijeengebracht door Luz, poster van het 3arguidoforum: PJ FILES: Sep 2007 (PT/UK) / Feb2008(PT) - Analysis Reports Het zou fijn als al het geteut er tussen wordt weggehaald, nu worden topics onnodig lang en bijna niet meer te volgen. Ergerlijk ook dat er steeds posters (trollen) proberen het onderwerp te draaien, aandacht afleiden, ook in andere topics...grrr.

    hey hoi allemaal, hoe is het ermee? Was even afwazig vanwege een griepje, maar ben er weer.
    Wat een gedoe rond die files....
    In Anorak worden er nog net geen alu hoedjes uitgedeeld...
    Oh en lees het commentaar ook vooral, daar kun je zien dat de mensen die klagen over het niet vertalen van het boek van Amaral ook andere dingen openbaren.....
    quote:
    Madeleine McCann And The Dawn Of Creationism
    MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann

    In the beginning was the word. And the word was “Maddie”…

    THE INDEPENDENT: “Religion vs science: can the divide between God and rationality be reconciled?”

    And on the eighth day the media was created and Our Maddie did come to the fore…

    ‘A clergyman in charge of education for the country’s leading scientific organisation – it’s a Monty Python sketch,” pronounced Britain’s top atheist, Richard Dawkins, recently. The problem was that Reiss, as well as being an evolutionary biologist and population geneticist, is a non-stipendiary priest in the Church of England.

    Still dunno.

    The danger is that between the strident secularists and the fanatical fundamentalists some important middle ground is being squeezed out. “Dawkins sees religion as credulous, superstitious and prejudiced but mature religious traditions teach people to challenge all that,” says Tina Beattie.

    Dawkinzzzz…

    “Science will never offer an answer to the parents of Madeleine McCann. Nor will it ever be irrational to go to a Mozart concert, though science can never explain the genius of his music.”

    Mozart. McCann. Maddie. DNA. Science. Creationism. Maddie. Do you understand now..?
    Sukozaterdag 11 oktober 2008 @ 22:55
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 11 oktober 2008 17:37 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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    hey hoi allemaal, hoe is het ermee? Was even afwazig vanwege een griepje, maar ben er weer.
    Wat een gedoe rond die files....
    In Anorak worden er nog net geen alu hoedjes uitgedeeld...
    Oh en lees het commentaar ook vooral, daar kun je zien dat de mensen die klagen over het niet vertalen van het boek van Amaral ook andere dingen openbaren.....
    [..]
    Hoooooi Kahaarin, ja ken het griepverschijnsel, om me heen dan, veel gesnotter en spierpijntjes, ik hoop dat het aan mij voorbij gaat... Zeker een gedoe rondom die files, ik laat dat even voor wat het is, over elk merkwaardig feitje wordt weer een nieuw topic geopend. Ik hou de grote lijn een beetje in de gaten, maar ik vrees dat naast nieuws over Amaral, die met een dappere maar eenzame kruistocht bezig is, er weinig meer te melden valt.

    Wat bedoel je met 'ook andere dingen openbaren' in een commentaar? Deze misschien?
    quote:
    -agw: Jo you are not gagged. We have no wish to suppress your right to freedom of speech. It is a fact that sometimes you stray into areas which are dangerous for you and for us. Other sites face exactly the same risks but lack professional legal or journalistic background staff to recognise those dangers. We welcome and enjoy your contribution and presence here. Without going into precise details there is one fact you should bear in mind. By far the greatest media for the communication of ideas is the English language. Goncalo Amaral’s book has been (or is being) translated and published into every major European language… but not English. Why do you think that is? Be careful how you answer…and that is the problem.
    Wel, we weten dat iedereen in de gaten wordt gehouden door de McCanns ingehuurde luitjes en niet alleen ter bescherming van hen zelf zoals wij alleen reeds weten. There is much to hide! Ik weet niet of Amaral's boek niet in het Engels wordt vertaald maar de UK-pers heeft het boek wel in het bezit, zoals de Daily Star meldt: "Chunks of the 221 pages have been translated into English and posted onto the internet. The book, seen by the Daily Star, includes photos from police files." Bron Reken maar dat dus niet alleen de Daily Star de inhoud van het boek kent.... En dan niets publiceren, als journalist kun je toch niet met goed fatsoen jezelf in de ogen kijken...

    En verder wordt het boek wel uitgegeven in de US en Australie, dus in het Engels zal het zeker wel straks te verkrijgen zijn bij Amazon en zo. Maar mogelijk alleen niet in de Britse bookshops. Belachelijk natuurlijk, mensen weten de weg toch wel te vinden. Maar in de UK kunnen de McCanns het boek kennelijk verbannen, handig wel...dan hoeven ze Amaral ook niet aan te klagen want dan moeten ze bewijzen wat er niet waar is in z'n boek...dat geeft alleen maar ongemakkelijke publiciteit en wordt zijn boek vanzelf een bestseller in de UK. Maar dat ze kennelijk zoveel macht denken te hebben dat boek van Amaral uit de schappen te houden zal ongetwijfeld veel vragen oproepen, kan niet anders.

    Aan de andere kant, er zijn ook veel feiten uit het boek gehouden, net als in het eindrapport, over de diverse achtergronden van de McCanns/Tapas 7 en Madeleine zelf. Veel blijft voor eeuwig verborgen, en misschien is dat ook een spintactiek. Laten de mensen maar denken dat alles in het boek is terug te vinden, dat is dus absoluut niet zo! Duizenden documenten zijn niet vrijgegeven, naast de 81 geheime documenten die de McCanns zelf 'mochten' houden. Wederom, niets is wat het lijkt, en dat is nou net de bedoeling....

    En verder is The Sun in de fout, de krant heeft een fake interview geplaatst met top criminologist in Portugal Jose Manuel Anes. Correio da Manhã schrijft: "The English Newspaper SUN published an interview yesterday with declarations attributed to José Manual Anes, regarding the Maddie Case, where he criticizes harshly the investigation. Contacted by the CM Anes said that it is al lie, guarantying that he has not spoken to the press for ”more than one year" and he says he is going to sue the English Paper." Joana Morais

    Uiteindelijk heeft een 3Arguidoposter dit ontdekt (en heeft dit ook José Manual Anes laten weten) dat The Sun een oud artikel gebruikte uit de Daily Mail uit december 2007.

    Als reactie op de poster meldt Jose Manuel Anes: "He said (and he called me madam, or google did ), that this article was even worse than the original (he used the word shameless or blatant) that it distorts the context of the original interview he gave to the journalist Manuel Catarino the author of the book "The guilt of McCann" and what he said at the end of his book. He says that he spoke originally in the context of methods of DNA analysis and the general errors that may occur in criminal cases in general not in the McCann case (in short he was giving his expert opinion on DNA methods generally as is I believe an area of his expertise).

    He states also the fact that this is also not a statement that has been paid for that he recals, he thanks me for bringing it to his attention, (calling it an unfortunate article) he said it has made him so sad that he is considering taking action."

    Wat een zooi bagger weer van The Sun en de Daily Mail...the British Trash-Press.
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    A detailed look at the events that unfolded during the early days of August when the specialist British sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, arrived in Portugal. McCannfiles.
    kahaarinmaandag 13 oktober 2008 @ 14:50
    Maar goed vitamines slikken Suko.

    Goedemiddag.

    Die quote bedoel ik inderdaad, van de gekken dat mensen die posten op een nieuwssite hun woorden moeten wegen omdat ze adders in de problemen kunnen komen....
    Er is trouwens wel meer gedoe nu, de uitgaven van het Maddy fund liggen ook weer eens onder vuur.
    quote:
    Madeleine McCann investigators 'claimed nearly £50,000 expenses in one month'
    The fund to find Madeleine McCann has become embroiled in fresh controversy after it was reported that private investigators hired in the search claimed nearly £50,000 in expenses for one month's work.

    Madeleine was nearly four when she went missing while on a family holiday in Portugal in May last year

    Photo: PAUL GROVER
    US-based firm Oakley International was taken on by the Find Madeleine Fund earlier this year on a £500,000 six-month contract.

    The company was chosen by double-glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy, who has promised to back the McCanns financially to help solve the mystery of the disappearance of their daughter.

    Oakley was hired to monitor a telephone hotline, carry out detective work and review CCTV footage from around the world of possible sightings of the missing girl.

    But Mr Kennedy became concerned by the level of Oakley's £43,500 ($74,155) expenses claim in the first month of the contract.

    The company's contract was terminated at the end of August after Mr Kennedy had become concerned at its lack of results.

    Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the Find Madeleine Fund, said that Oakley International was no longer working on the case.

    He said: "The contract with Oakley was just one among many that have been entered into during the search for Madeleine.

    "While Oakley did some valuable work, particularly in the early stages, its contract, like many others, has now come to a close.

    "The search for Madeleine is continuing, however, using other resources and the performance of other contractors is constantly reviewed and monitored.

    "Kate and Gerry and the backers will leave no stone unturned in the search for Madeleine."

    Madeleine has not been seen since May last year, when she disappeared from the family's apartment in the Portuguese holiday resort of Praia da Luz shortly before her fourth birthday.

    Former police officers are now being interviewed by Mr Kennedy to take over responsibility for the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.

    Mr Kennedy, 47, estimated to be worth about £250million, made his money in double-glazing and home-improvement ventures with companies including Everest windows.

    He became involved with the McCanns after being moved by their plight during the period they were made formal suspects – arguidos – in Madeleine's disappearance.

    Portuguese prosecutors dropped the couple's arguido status in July.

    A spokesman for Oakley International said: "We carried out our instructions from the Fund professionally and responsibly in accordance with our agreement."
    Goh, een hele firm die cctv footage van ik weet niet hoeveel camera's bestudeerd geven ze hun geld niet aan uit maar het Amber alert mag wat kosten.....
    Sukodinsdag 14 oktober 2008 @ 11:11
    Hooi Kahaarin, nee ben nog virusvrij terwijl anderen om mij heen bij bosjes omvallen...Ha! (ff afkloppen...) Anyway, dat het contract afliep van die Oakley-luitjes is niks nieuws, alleen dat ze iets meer declareerede, dat is foei natuurlijk... Maar ik geloof er niks van, verzonnen nieuws om de McConns weer in het nieuws te houden. Zo'n gewiekste zakenman als Brian Kennedy en één van de rijkste mannen van de UK, zal echt geen stom contractje hebben opgesteld waarmee gesjoemeld kan worden, no way!

    Gerry McCann meent, na lange tijd, z'n 'fans' tevreden te stellen met het volgende:
    quote:
    News and Support

    From Day 528: 12/10/2008

    Day 528: First of all I want to apologise for not updating this blog for so long. I would like to assure everyone that this gap is not because there is little going on in the search for Madeleine. On the contrary, Kate and I have been incredibly busy over the last couple of months since the PJ files were made public. We and our family have always vowed to leave no stone unturned in the search for our daughter and knowing exactly what has been done and, more importantly, what has not been done is vital in planning our future strategy.

    Getting the files translated accurately is a time consuming and expensive process but essential to our search. There is a huge amount of information contained within the files which we have not been party to until now and this needs to be assessed carefully. This is even more important as the Portuguese investigation is officially closed.

    In some ways, although this task is monumental, it has been good for us doing being something active and positive which we believe may help find Madeleine. We are also using this period to get advice to maximise our effectiveness and efficiency in our overall strategy going forward. Keeping Madeleine’s image in the public eye will continue to be important and the distribution of posters is central to that aim.

    Finally we would like to thank everyone for their continued, support, prayers and letters. I promise to do another update in the near future. We will be looking at how the website functions, as the main portal of the find Madeleine campaign, and perhaps future updates will be via another route rather than my blog. Why don’t you let us know what you think by e-mail messages of support? Bron
    Een 3arguidoposter+Mod heeft daar een puntig commentaar op:
    quote:
    From this blog entry I gather:

    1. The parents have paid for an expensive translation of the DVD, the cost no doubt having been borne by the people who donated to the fund. This is variously seen (within the same sentence) as them doing something active or it being something active.

    2. They have sought advice to maximise their effectiveness and efficiency in their overall strategy going forward. (This advice seems to have suggested that the distribution of posters might be undertaken.)

    3. There has been a summer recess so the Amber Alert has been on a back burner - no action there then - not that it assists in the search for Madeleine anyway.

    4. It would seem there has been some consideration also of the website and how it functions. The result of this is that Gerry's next update may come from some other source.

    So in the last few weeks:
    - publicity such as posters - none
    - assisting the police in the UK or Portugal - none
    - personal appeals/interviews - none
    - attempts to put out a clear and logical timeline of the night of the disappearance - none
    - demands to the Portuguese Authorities that the case be re-opened - none
    Ik voeg er zelf maar aan toe dat mensen helemaal niet naar de site van de McCanns moeten mailen, beste kans dat email-adressen voor andere doeleinden worden (mis)gebruikt...

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    >>> Kate and Gerry McCann - 'why would that be our fault?' <<<
    Sukodinsdag 14 oktober 2008 @ 11:13
    Ik heb deze post van Spudgun even teruggetrokken, misschien plaats ik deze weer maar ik wacht eerst even deze discussie af, hij post een aantal antwoorden zoals deze die mij verontrusten. Ik wacht het af....

    [ Bericht 31% gewijzigd door Suko op 14-10-2008 23:35:23 ]
    Sukodinsdag 14 oktober 2008 @ 12:21
    Nu ik toch ff bezig ben: van alle gehoorde getuigen heeft niemand iets vreemds gemerkt aan Madeleine, geen vreemd persoon in het vakantieoord, geen verdachte omstandigheden in combi met Madeleine's verdwijning, niemand heeft verdachte voertuigen gezien of verdachte vreemde personen opgemerkt. Bron: McCannfiles
    quote:
    Madeleine's disappearance - the PJ have doubts Enfants Kidnappés
    Monday 13 October 2008 Thanks to 'AnnaEsse' for translation
    Several days of interviews

    It is May 8th 2007, being the fifth day after Madeleine McCann's disappearance. At this stage, the PJ have taken statements from dozens of people. Hundreds of pages in the reports. Everybody has been interviewed. Employees of the Ocean Club, nannies, or child-care workers from the Kids Club, cooks and assistant cooks at the "Tapas" and the "Millenium", cleaners, gardeners, maintenance workers, managers for the club's various services, directors and managers of the complex, tourists, owners of apartments, neighbours, people who were at the "tapas" on May 3rd 2007, tennis coaches... in short, no one was left out. Everybody was interviewed. We are sparing you all these interviews, which for the most part bring nothing to the investigation or at least no new leads. They are mainly interviews which, in general, bring out the following common points:

    1) No one noticed anything unusual about Madeleine.
    2) No one noticed any strange individual at the complex.
    3) No one noticed anything suspicious which could be linked to Madeleine's disappearance.
    4) No one noticed any suspicious vehicles or any suspicious unidentified people.

    It is to be noted that even the GNR police officers, first on the spot, were interviewed by their PJ colleagues, in spite of reports of the operation being sent.

    With regards to the PJ's interviews over the past few days, a change is noted in how the case is being perceived. Thus the questions which the PJ are putting to various witnesses are implying that the PJ have doubts about the statements from the parents or friends in the group. We note, however, that the slightest info, concerning the slightest suspicion was professionally checked, immediately. Numerous pages of the case file attest to this. Up to now, May 8th 2007, every lead, or opening of a lead, has been checked and it was, each time, a false lead. Like, for example, a suspicious car noticed near the Ocean Club recpetion by various witnesses. In the end, it was the service vehicle of a Club employee who had come to make an urgent repair to a door lock.

    Why these doubts for the PJ?

    On reading various witness statements, given the number of leads checked, it seems difficult for someone to have been able to get into the complex, gain access to the McCanns' apartment, take Madeleine, get out of the apartment, leave the Ocean club, take flight via whatever means of transport and that no one, absolutely no one, saw anything. No strangers, no suspicious or unusual vehicles, not even a shadow of a person carrying a child at the times and places where there were other people... From the police point of view, if these witness statements do not totally exclude the possibility of an abduction, they make the theory less credible. As a result, the answer must lie elsewhere. Notably with the group of friends (parents included). The only person to have seen a suspect with a child is Jane Tanner, a member of the group of friends.

    Note, for the record, that all the child-care workers, having contact with Madeleine, state that Madeleine introduced herself to them by her shortened name "Maddie". This adds nothing important to the case file except that it contradicts Kate's statements.
    On the other hand, it is noted that the Kids Club operates three free services, one of which is in the evening until 11.30pm so that parents can eat at the restaurant in peace. Finally, we know that the Club has a, "missing alert" procedure, that it is a structured and thoughtful procedure, and that this procedure was set in motion as soon as Maddie's disappearance was announced, employees having been called from their homes to participate in the search.

    Interview of an employee from the swimming pool bar

    In her interview, this employee states that access is restricted to clients and that this is controlled via the client's card at the entrance. She adds that she has not come across any unauthorised person on the site. She explains that on the day of Madeleine's disappearance, at around 8.30pm, her friend was called following a problem with a lock in an apartment situated close to the "Millenium" restaurant. She went there with her friend. At around 9pm, they went back towards the Club's reception. They passed near the "Tapas" and by the McCann family's apartment. They state that they saw nothing suspicious. They saw no one and no vehicles. Her friend left the premises at around 9.10pm with his service vehicle and she left at 9.15pm in her own car.

    The case file contains numerous witness statements like that, so that together, these witness statements contradict the statements from the "tapas 9" group. A reconstruction would have made this clear immediately and would have highlighted the contradictions of the informants.
    Nog even dat Kate zich beklaagde over dat iedereen, en ook Amaral, Maddie zegt, eerder gepost: "Kate beweerd in het Expresso-interview: "Q – Aren’t youcurious to know what the book says? Kate – What for? It must be nothing but a load of rubbish. It is so secondary… It certainly won’t help to find our daughter. My consolation is that on the cover he calls her Maddie, the name that the media have invented. We never called her anything like that." Het blijkt nu dus wel overduidelijk dat ze uit de bekende nek zit te ouwenelen, Madeleine stelde zichzelf zo voor, en iedereen noemde haar zo, inclusief oma Healey en ook peetom van de twins, Jon Corner. Als ze zelfs over haar naam moeten liegen, ik bedoel maar...

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    >>> Madeleine - DNA / Forensic Science Service <<<
    kahaarinwoensdag 15 oktober 2008 @ 13:53
    quote:
    Op dinsdag 14 oktober 2008 11:13 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Ik heb deze post van Spudgun even teruggetrokken, misschien plaats ik deze weer maar ik wacht eerst even deze discussie af, hij post een aantal antwoorden zoals deze die mij verontrusten. Ik wacht het af....
    Goedemiddag!

    Ik ben even gaan zoeken en hij refereert aan dit:

    http://downloads.officesh(...)/MaddieMcCann_PJ.pdf

    Dat kun je op de madeleine wiki pagina vinden:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_McCann

    Is Joana bezig met het vertalen van dit? Ik kan er namelijk echt geen chocola van maken. En om nu alles met babbelfish te doen is me net te veel werk, 57 pgina's is een beetje veel.......

    Ik ben benieuwd......
    kahaarinwoensdag 15 oktober 2008 @ 14:31
    Okay, ik ben nog even aan het struinen geweest, dit vond ik wel een heel opvallende verklaring:
    quote:
    Najoua Chekaya arrived in Portugal on March 2007, recruited in England to work for Mark Warner, according to her statement to the PJ, in May 2007. Just a curiosity, the translator was Robert Murat. She described her daily working routine, as an aerobics instructor and said that when she arrived at Ocean Club, she was asked also to perform a "Quiz Game", at night (09:00 pm), at the Tapas Bar, twice a week – every Sunday and Tuesday.

    On May 1, 2007, after the "Quiz" was finished, Najoua was invited by Gerry McCann to sit at their table, to have a drink. She was there for 15/20 minutes, between 9.30 and 9:50 pm. There was just casual talk and she doesn't know if Madeleine's mother was at the table or not.

    During that period of time, nobody left the table, but there was an empty chair. Who has been sitting at that chair, Najoua didn't know.

    *

    Comment: This is an extremely important piece of information, as we had previously been led to believe that at 9.30pm, on the night of Madeleine's disappearance, Ms Chekaya had been invited to join the tapas table, by Gerry McCann, following completion of the quiz. Her police statement makes it quite clear that this was not the case. Consequently, she cannot corroborate, or provide an alibi for, any of the McCanns or their friends movements on the night of May 3rd.
    Laatste verklaring op deze pagina:
    http://www.mccannfiles.com/id53.html

    Ik weet dat dit in het verleden al wel eens is besproken maar mn door de berichten over tegenstrijdigheden in de verklaringen/dossiers wilde ik dit nog even aanhalen.

    Degene die miste was volgens deze timeline O'Brian:
    quote:
    22.00: O’Brien rejoined the table shortly before 10pm. Not long afterwards Kate got up to make the next check on her three children. The walk must have taken her less than a minute. Madeleine was not in her bed.

    Left behind was Cuddle Cat, Madeleine’s comfort toy. She was never separated from it, especially at night.

    According to Kate, the bedroom window was open and the shutter up, yet they had been closed and down when Gerry checked at 9pm. Kate searched the apartment and the area immediately outside.

    She ran down the hill and into the restaurant, where Gerry recalls her shouting or screaming either “Madeleine has gone. Somebody has taken her” or “Madeleine has gone. Someone has taken her”. Other reports suggest she shouted, “They've taken her.”

    Gerry thought “that can’t be right, that can’t be right”. He went running up to the apartment with Kate and checked everywhere she had already looked, and made a quick run around the apartment block.

    En ik heb een vertaling gevonden van de verslagen van de PJ:

    http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html

    (Oh en nog een aanvulling van huishoudelijke aard, ik heb deel 12 ook weer gevonden: Maddie McCann: Occams razor (12). , voor in de, eventueel, volgende OP, missschien wil een MOD dit nog even toevoegen in de huidige OP?)

    [ Bericht 16% gewijzigd door kahaarin op 15-10-2008 15:09:15 ]
    Sukowoensdag 15 oktober 2008 @ 22:52
    quote:
    Op woensdag 15 oktober 2008 13:53 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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    Goedemiddag!

    Ik ben even gaan zoeken en hij refereert aan dit:

    http://downloads.officesh(...)/MaddieMcCann_PJ.pdf

    Dat kun je op de madeleine wiki pagina vinden:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_McCann

    Is Joana bezig met het vertalen van dit? Ik kan er namelijk echt geen chocola van maken. En om nu alles met babbelfish te doen is me net te veel werk, 57 pgina's is een beetje veel.......

    Ik ben benieuwd......
    N'vond Kahaarin. Wat Spudgun betreft, ik begin hem ietwat te wantrouwen, daarom ook mijn post verwijderd. Hij beweerde eerst in de ontvoering te geloven... Dat is niet zo volgens zijn analyse vorig jaar, hij wist het toen eenvoudig niet, vind ik ietsje anders. Vervolgens heeft hij het over poor Gerry en Kate zonder aanhalingstekens, dat vind ik een beinvloedende zin. Dan heeft hij het over een boek, alleen daarin zal misschien de waarheid naar boven komen, maar vervolging zal uitblijven. Hoezo dat dan? De zaak kan heropend worden met nieuwe feiten. En komt er misschien een boek van de McCanns dan? En journo's mogen/durven niet te onderzoeken, geen inkomen willen riskeren. Ook dat ze een deal zouden sluiten, Spudgun schrijft: "In fact, they tried to broke a deal with the McCanns lawyers which would allow them to remain 'on bail', whilst investigations and subsequent court proceedings entailed." Dat is naderhand door hun Postugese advocaat als een misverstand omschreven, want zo'n deal kent de Portugese wet niet. Een boze Kate belde die deal ook door naar de zus van Gerry, waarom naar die hysterische dikke trol? Toen kreeg ik argwaan jegens Spudgun...

    Hij schrijft verder iemand te kennen die meer weet, ja ja. Dat soort verklaringen heb ik wel tig keer gelezen en bleken nonsens Ene Coldwater toen op het 3arguidoforum had een heel lang topic, hij/zij werd zowat aanbeden, had ook sources inside, maar eigenlijk frommelde hij/zij reeds bekende feiten in een nieuwtje of verzon simpel wat aanwijzingen die plausibel leken maar het niet waren. Hij/zij is na de vrijspraak van de McCanvs niet meer op dat forum gezien. Dat topic is ook weggehaald. Wie en wat is Spudgun echt eigenlijk, iemand uit het McCann-kamp? Ik voel nattigheid...

    Over die Quiz-dame Najoua Chekaya gaan er hier ook wat vragen over, zij had het over 1 mei...Dat eindrapport heb ik idd al een paar keer gepost maar dan van de site van Joana Morais Ik hecht er niet zoveel waarde aan, er staat meer niet als wel interessants in, echt belangrijke krijgen we niet te lezen (duizenden documenten) en een deel hebben de McCanns in handen. Net zoals Amaral al in juli zei: "It is not a declaration of innocence" - Gonçalo Amaral, in Correio da Manhã.
    quote:
    (Oh en nog een aanvulling van huishoudelijke aard, ik heb deel 12 ook weer gevonden: Maddie McCann: Occams razor (12). , voor in de, eventueel, volgende OP, missschien wil een MOD dit nog even toevoegen in de huidige OP?)
    Volgens mij zou je dat zelf kunnen doen...toch?
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    Hou jullie vast, Sky News: Madeleine: 'Tapas 7' Win Payout
    En de Guadian: .Desmond's papers back in court to apologise for more shoddy journalism (middels een blog van McCann-fan Greenslade) Voorlopig gaat het 3arguidoforum over de rooie: Sky Breaking News 15.10.08 - TAPAS 7 to get £375,000 MERGED


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    kahaarindonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 11:29
    quote:
    Op woensdag 15 oktober 2008 22:52 schreef Suko het volgende:

    [..]

    N'vond Kahaarin. Wat Spudgun betreft, ik begin hem ietwat te wantrouwen, daarom ook mijn post verwijderd. Hij beweerde eerst in de ontvoering te geloven... Dat is niet zo volgens zijn analyse vorig jaar, hij wist het toen eenvoudig niet, vind ik ietsje anders. Vervolgens heeft hij het over poor Gerry en Kate zonder aanhalingstekens, dat vind ik een beinvloedende zin. Dan heeft hij het over een boek, alleen daarin zal misschien de waarheid naar boven komen, maar vervolging zal uitblijven. Hoezo dat dan? De zaak kan heropend worden met nieuwe feiten. En komt er misschien een boek van de McCanns dan? En journo's mogen/durven niet te onderzoeken, geen inkomen willen riskeren. Ook dat ze een deal zouden sluiten, Spudgun schrijft: "In fact, they tried to broke a deal with the McCanns lawyers which would allow them to remain 'on bail', whilst investigations and subsequent court proceedings entailed." Dat is naderhand door hun Postugese advocaat als een misverstand omschreven, want zo'n deal kent de Portugese wet niet. Een boze Kate belde die deal ook door naar de zus van Gerry, waarom naar die hysterische dikke trol? Toen kreeg ik argwaan jegens Spudgun...
    Hoi Suko! Hmmm, waar hebben we dat eerder gezien? 15 minutes of fame uitgemolken lijkt wel..... Ik zit niet zo in de blogs maar goed, ik ga wat dat betreft op jou af.
    quote:
    Hij schrijft verder iemand te kennen die meer weet, ja ja. Dat soort verklaringen heb ik wel tig keer gelezen en bleken nonsens Ene Coldwater toen op het 3arguidoforum had een heel lang topic, hij/zij werd zowat aanbeden, had ook sources inside, maar eigenlijk frommelde hij/zij reeds bekende feiten in een nieuwtje of verzon simpel wat aanwijzingen die plausibel leken maar het niet waren. Hij/zij is na de vrijspraak van de McCanvs niet meer op dat forum gezien. Dat topic is ook weggehaald. Wie en wat is Spudgun echt eigenlijk, iemand uit het McCann-kamp? Ik voel nattigheid...
    Zou je denken? Dan heeft hij zich een behoorlijke tijd kunnen handhaven binnen die groep.
    quote:
    Over die Quiz-dame Najoua Chekaya gaan er hier ook wat vragen over, zij had het over 1 mei...Dat eindrapport heb ik idd al een paar keer gepost maar dan van de site van Joana Morais Ik hecht er niet zoveel waarde aan, er staat meer niet als wel interessants in, echt belangrijke krijgen we niet te lezen (duizenden documenten) en een deel hebben de McCanns in handen. Net zoals Amaral al in juli zei: "It is not a declaration of innocence" - Gonçalo Amaral, in Correio da Manhã.
    Dat we niet alles krijgen te zien had ik wel verwacht, maar om zo op een rijtje te zien wat de verklaringen van de Tapas9 in eerste instantie waren en dat er toch behoorlijk wat hiaten en tegenstrijdigheden inzitten vind ik op zijn minst curieus....
    quote:
    Volgens mij zou je dat zelf kunnen doen...toch?
    Nee, dat kan niet meer, kijk maar eens naar jouw oude berichten, dat is veranderd, nu kun je beperkt wijzigen.
    quote:
    Hou jullie vast, Sky News: Madeleine: 'Tapas 7' Win Payout
    En de Guadian: .Desmond's papers back in court to apologise for more shoddy journalism (middels een blog van McCann-fan Greenslade) Voorlopig gaat het 3arguidoforum over de rooie: Sky Breaking News 15.10.08 - TAPAS 7 to get £375,000 MERGED
    Nou, dat zegt dan ook weer genoeg, de laatste tijd was het al zo stil, dit is weer een mooie manier om de pers verder monddood te maken.
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    Magoed, gekheid weer op een stokje, behalve die 375.000 Pond dus geen nieuws.
    Sukodonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 12:05
    quote:
    Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 11:29 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

    [..]

    Hoi Suko! Hmmm, waar hebben we dat eerder gezien? 15 minutes of fame uitgemolken lijkt wel..... Ik zit niet zo in de blogs maar goed, ik ga wat dat betreft op jou af.
    [..]

    Zou je denken? Dan heeft hij zich een behoorlijke tijd kunnen handhaven binnen die groep.
    [..]

    Dat we niet alles krijgen te zien had ik wel verwacht, maar om zo op een rijtje te zien wat de verklaringen van de Tapas9 in eerste instantie waren en dat er toch behoorlijk wat hiaten en tegenstrijdigheden inzitten vind ik op zijn minst curieus....
    [..]

    Nee, dat kan niet meer, kijk maar eens naar jouw oude berichten, dat is veranderd, nu kun je beperkt wijzigen.
    [..]

    Nou, dat zegt dan ook weer genoeg, de laatste tijd was het al zo stil, dit is weer een mooie manier om de pers verder monddood te maken.
    [..]



    Magoed, gekheid weer op een stokje, behalve die 375.000 Pond dus geen nieuws.
    Mogguh Kahaarin Ow, dan moet idd Mod Tmaatje dat veranderen. Zie verder mijn post hieronder.
    quote:
    Op woensdag 15 oktober 2008 13:53 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

    [..]

    Goedemiddag!

    Ik ben even gaan zoeken en hij refereert aan dit:

    http://downloads.officesh(...)/MaddieMcCann_PJ.pdf

    Dat kun je op de madeleine wiki pagina vinden:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_McCann

    Is Joana bezig met het vertalen van dit? Ik kan er namelijk echt geen chocola van maken. En om nu alles met babbelfish te doen is me net te veel werk, 57 pgina's is een beetje veel.......

    Ik ben benieuwd......
    Ik krijg een crash met het open van die PDF-link maar ik vermoed dat daar beknopt staat beschreven wat verder in stukjes (hier en hier o.a.) op het 3Arguidoforum wordt geplaatst, dus idd niet meer te volgen. In dit topic, pag. 2 gaat het er even over. Joana Morais meldt en vertaald dit niet maar verwijst zelf ook naar dat forum. Ik heb gevonden via jouw Wikipedialink waar kennelijk Spudgun aan refereert, maar net wat ik al schreef, een verdere link op die site meldt: "The McCanns' lawyer, Carlos Pinto de Abreu, told the Guardian claims by relatives that police had offered Mrs McCann a plea bargain if she admitted to accidentally killing her child were wrong. The claims were the result of "a misunderstanding" while she was being questioned." Bron Spudgun had even moet melden dat er geen deal gemaakt kón worden, dat kent de Portugese wet niet. Maar nee, bij volgt alles op de voet, hij heeft inside info zegtie maar dan moet je de feiten wel melden zoals ze zijn. Topic
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    En verder wat interessante artikelen op het blog van Joana Morais:
    'The Tapas Seven' - An Apology?!?!?
    Maddie is worth Gold - 24Horas

    Ik ben niet bekend met die Britste tabloid-cultuur maar het zou me niks verbazen als de wraak van The Daily Express 'zoet' zal zijn, kan misschien even duren maar sommige Engelse posters weten het zeker.... (en waarom alleen de DE moet dokken, er zijn wel meer kranten geweest met 'gevaarlijk' nieuws vóór de vrijspraak en vorig jaar zoals de Daily Mail en The Sun e.d.)

    Maar goed, jammer dat ook journo Jeremy Paxman van het BBC-actualiteiten-programma Newsnight er niets mee doet, and we all know why....a must see > hoe hij iemand ondervraagt om een antwoord te krijgen, een historisch moment en veel bekroond. Wie en het onderwerp doen er niet zo toe, maar Jerry gaat door en door en door...if only he could interview some of those Tapas 9....duurt net aan 2 min.




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    [ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Suko op 16-10-2008 12:12:16 ]
    Sukodonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 12:24
    Toch maar even voluit, inclusief The Dirty 7 6, Russel O'Brian zie ik niet...:
    quote:
    'Tapas 7' Arrive At High Court Sky News
    10:39am UK, Thursday October 16, 2008
    Friends of Kate and Gerry McCann have arrived at the High Court to receive £375,000 in newspaper damages.


    Kate and Gerry McCann friends arrive at High Court

    The Express Newspapers group will pay out the huge sum after falsely claiming the so-called 'Tapas 7' misled the Madeleine investigation.

    It has also apologised to the friends, who were eating with the couple in a nearby restaurant on the night the girl disappeared.

    The seven are couples Jane Tanner and Russell O'Brien, Rachael and Matthew Oldfield, Fiona and David Payne, and Mrs Payne's mother, Dianne Webster.

    They are expected to donate the money to the Find Madeleine fund.

    The friends were on holiday with the McCanns in Praia da Luz, Portugal, last May, when Madeleine disappeared, just days before her fourth birthday.

    The nickname for the group came from the restaurant where all nine adults were dining when Madeleine went missing from her family's holiday apartment nearby.

    Sky's Crime correspondent Martin Brunt said: "This is the third time this year newspapers have agreed a settlement.

    "The first was against Express Newspapers - they were forced to pay out just over £500,000 to Kate and Gerry McCann for more than 100 defamatory articles.

    "In July, a number of newspaper groups were involved in an even bigger payout - around £600,000 - to Robert Murat, the first suspect in the case, who was subsequently cleared of suspicion by the Portuguese authorities."
    Discussie hier te lezen.

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    kahaarindonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 12:28
    quote:
    Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 12:05 schreef Suko het volgende:

    Mogguh Kahaarin Ow, dan moet idd Mod Tmaatje dat veranderen.
    Dat dus..... * kahaarin zegt pwetty pwease tegen een mod....*
    quote:
    Ik krijg een crash met het open van die PDF-link maar ik vermoed dat daar beknopt staat beschreven wat verder in stukjes (hier en hier o.a.) op het 3Arguidoforum wordt geplaatst, dus idd niet meer te volgen. In dit topic, pag. 2 gaat het er even over. Joana Morais meldt en vertaald dit niet maar verwijst zelf ook naar dat forum.
    Ow jammer, het is wel degelijk een volledige vertaling, met pagina benoemingen en zo, maar je mist er niet zo veel aan hoor....
    quote:
    Ik heb gevonden via jouw Wikipedialink waar kennelijk Spudgun aan refereert, maar net wat ik al schreef, een verdere link op die site meldt: "The McCanns' lawyer, Carlos Pinto de Abreu, told the Guardian claims by relatives that police had offered Mrs McCann a plea bargain if she admitted to accidentally killing her child were wrong. The claims were the result of "a misunderstanding" while she was being questioned." Bron Spudgun had even moet melden dat er geen deal gemaakt kón worden, dat kent de Portugese wet niet. Maar nee, bij volgt alles op de voet, hij heeft inside info zegtie maar dan moet je de feiten wel melden zoals ze zijn. Topic
    Een misunderstanding m'n neus, toen al is begonnen met het bespelen van de pers, en dan zeggen dat de PJ valse claims maakt en de pers gebruikt om de McCanns in een kwaad daglicht te zetten....
    quote:
    En verder wat interessante artikelen op het blog van Joana Morais:
    'The Tapas Seven' - An Apology?!?!?
    Maddie is worth Gold - 24Horas
    Ga ik zo even op mijn gemak lezen.
    quote:
    Ik ben niet bekend met die Britste tabloid-cultuur maar het zou me niks verbazen als de wraak van The Daily Express 'zoet' zal zijn, kan misschien even duren maar sommige Engelse posters weten het zeker.... (en waarom alleen de DE moet dokken, er zijn wel meer kranten geweest met 'gevaarlijk' nieuws vóór de vrijspraak en vorig jaar zoals de Daily Mail en The Sun e.d.)
    ow, ik zie het, het lijkt er op dat ze niet erg van dat geld kunnen genieten als ze het niet doneren aan het Maddy fund:
    quote:
    I have been in Publishing for 30 years.............

    YOU DONT UPSET NEWSPAPERS OR THEIR JOURNALISTS.

    Because they come back to haunt you, to set you up.

    They will bring in the Dirty Brigade. It will be their job to fish and fish and fish.

    'new cars brought with Maddy money'

    'holidays brought with Maddy money............... the list will be endless..........it may take time, it may take years, but they are all damaged goods.
    Gniffel, het zal mij benieuwen.....
    quote:
    Maar goed, jammer dat ook journo Jeremy Paxman van het BBC-actualiteiten-programma Newsnight er niets mee doet, and we all know why....a must see > hoe hij iemand ondervraagt om een antwoord te krijgen, een historisch moment en veel bekroond. Wie en het onderwerp doen er niet zo toe, maar Jerry gaat door en door en door...if only he could interview some of those Tapas 9....duurt net aan 2 min.



    Lol, 12 keer niet beantwoorden, tjonge, ik zou wel een vlieg op de muur willen zijn als hij de Tapas9 gaat verhoren.
    kahaarindonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 12:34
    Huh? Een quote uit jouw 2e link:
    quote:
    The 481 thousand euros go directly into the Find Madeleine fund, which “needs money to continue to support the investigation to find Madeleine”, Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, told 24Horas.

    “With this compensation, the Fund will have about 700 to 800 thousand Pounds [approximately 900 thousand to 1 million euros]”, he added.
    Het is nu ineens zeker dat het geld naar het Maddy fund gaat? Wat raar, al kan ik me voorstellen dat ze het bloedgeld, want dat is het in mijn ogen gewoon, verkregen over de rug van een verdwenen meisje, niet zelf durven te houden.

    Ook vind ik het vreemd dat er steeds als er geld tekort is de pers betaald, zou het ook een soort kopen van scoops kunnen zijn? Dat de pers vantevoren betaald om de meest sappige details als eerste te horen? Dat vroeg ik me zo ineens af.....
    Sukodonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 12:36
    quote:
    Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 12:28 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

    [..]

    Dat dus..... * kahaarin zegt pwetty pwease tegen een mod....*
    [..]

    Ow jammer, het is wel degelijk een volledige vertaling, met pagina benoemingen en zo, maar je mist er niet zo veel aan hoor....
    [..]

    Een misunderstanding m'n neus, toen al is begonnen met het bespelen van de pers, en dan zeggen dat de PJ valse claims maakt en de pers gebruikt om de McCanns in een kwaad daglicht te zetten....
    [..]

    Ga ik zo even op mijn gemak lezen.
    [..]

    ow, ik zie het, het lijkt er op dat ze niet erg van dat geld kunnen genieten als ze het niet doneren aan het Maddy fund:
    [..]

    Gniffel, het zal mij benieuwen.....
    [..]

    Lol, 12 keer niet beantwoorden, tjonge, ik zou wel een vlieg op de muur willen zijn als hij de Tapas9 gaat verhoren.
    Whahaha...onze posten kruisen ietwat, had ff the Court-foto + artikel geplaatst. Yep, poen is voor het fonds, weet je veel, misschien een stimulans om het publiek ook weer te laten storten...niets is als het lijkt, alles heeft een bijbedoeling. Middle-class-people, geef mij maar recht voor z'n raap. Jeremy...Jerry...Jerry!

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    Sukodonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 12:37
    quote:
    Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 12:34 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
    Huh? Een quote uit jouw 2e link:
    [..]

    Het is nu ineens zeker dat het geld naar het Maddy fund gaat? Wat raar, al kan ik me voorstellen dat ze het bloedgeld, want dat is het in mijn ogen gewoon, verkregen over de rug van een verdwenen meisje, niet zelf durven te houden.

    Ook vind ik het vreemd dat er steeds als er geld tekort is de pers betaald, zou het ook een soort kopen van scoops kunnen zijn? Dat de pers vantevoren betaald om de meest sappige details als eerste te horen? Dat vroeg ik me zo ineens af.....
    Gut ja, bloedgeld willen ze best wel maar kunnen ze mogelijk (duistere redenen?) niet en dit zou ook kunnen, betalen voor scoops, of te wel Clarrie-nieuws! Good thinking...
    kahaarindonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 12:49
    quote:
    Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 12:36 schreef Suko het volgende:

    Whahaha...onze posten kruisen ietwat, had ff the Court-foto + artikel geplaatst. Yep, poen is voor het fonds, weet je veel, misschien een stimulans om het publiek ook weer te laten storten...niets is als het lijkt, alles heeft een bijbedoeling. Middle-class-people, geef mij maar recht voor z'n raap. Jeremy...Jerry...Jerry!
    Haha, de hele tapas bende, inclusief 24horas en Britse tabloids bij Jerry Springer? Dan mag Steve wel versterkingen laten komen.
    quote:
    Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 12:37 schreef Suko het volgende:

    Gut ja, bloedgeld willen ze best wel maar kunnen ze mogelijk (duistere redenen?) niet en dit zou ook kunnen, betalen voor scoops, of te wel Clarrie-nieuws! Good thinking...
    Tja, ik blijf denken dat de McCanns iets weten over de andere 7 Tapas gangmembers, of dat er meer fishy zaken in de doofpot moeten. Denk maar eens aan die dubieuze foto's van Maddy, om maar iets te noemen.
    Als er dan een dealtje met de pers word gesloten dan hebben ze een beetje meer lucht, immers als ze de pers in hun portemonnee hebben dan kan er bijna geen ranzigheid, die eventueel opduikt, geprint worden zonder dat het voor 100% vast staat dat het idd waar is.
    Met deze deal hebben de pers en de Tapas9 zich onlosmakelijk aan elkaar verbonden ben ik bang.....
    Ik vermoed dat we de komende tijd best wel weer eens een heleboel Clarrie-spin tegemoet kunnen zien, wat zullen ze nu weer onder het tapijt proberen te schuiven? Maar goed de Portugese pers en de blogs in de gaten houden dus.
    Sukodonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 13:00
    quote:
    Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 12:49 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

    [..]

    Haha, de hele tapas bende, inclusief 24horas en Britse tabloids bij Jerry Springer? Dan mag Steve wel versterkingen laten komen.
    [..]

    Tja, ik blijf denken dat de McCanns iets weten over de andere 7 Tapas gangmembers, of dat er meer fishy zaken in de doofpot moeten. Denk maar eens aan die dubieuze foto's van Maddy, om maar iets te noemen.
    Als er dan een dealtje met de pers word gesloten dan hebben ze een beetje meer lucht, immers als ze de pers in hun portemonnee hebben dan kan er bijna geen ranzigheid, die eventueel opduikt, geprint worden zonder dat het voor 100% vast staat dat het idd waar is.
    Met deze deal hebben de pers en de Tapas9 zich onlosmakelijk aan elkaar verbonden ben ik bang.....
    Ik vermoed dat we de komende tijd best wel weer eens een heleboel Clarrie-spin tegemoet kunnen zien, wat zullen ze nu weer onder het tapijt proberen te schuiven? Maar goed de Portugese pers en de blogs in de gaten houden dus.
    Oja, die Steve! Heeft inmiddels een eigen programma geloof ik. Maar jouw theorie over dat geld vind ik zeer geloofwaardig. En ja we zullen het weer van fora en blogs moeten hebben voor het echte nieuws. Fiona Payne heeft nog wat gezegd voor het gerechtshof, bla bla bla. McCannfiles:
    quote:
    Transcription of Fiona Payne's statement outside High Court
    16 October 2008
    "The abduction of Madeleine McCann, the daughter of our friends Kate and Gerry, on May 3rd 2007, changed all our lives in an instant.

    But for no-one more so than Madeleine.

    The defamatory stories written about us were not only extremely damaging on a personal level but we strongly feel were detrimental to the search for Madeleine.

    This aspect has been particularly heart-breaking to witness.

    Although we are very pleased with today's result it changes little when Madeleine's plight remains ongoing.

    She is still missing and her abductor still free.

    Our only aim is to see her safely recovered and reunited with the family who so adore her.

    All the damages received today are being paid directly into the Find Madeleine Fund to continue this ongoing search and investigation into her disappearance.

    We believe that Madeleine is still alive and can be found.

    We ask anyone who has any information, however small or seemingly unimportant, please come forward.

    Contact details can be found on the Find Madeleine website.

    And finally, we thank wholeheartedly all those who have already helped in the search for Madeleine."
    Te zien op Sky News. Zie ook de comment-functie, bijna onderaan en via de pijltjes uit de breiden om meer te lezen.

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    Sukodonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 14:14
    Na al dat gebep over die schadevergoeding, even wat tegenwicht....Op de site van Joana Morais:

    October 16, 2008


    Jane Tanner - not a liar, not a fantasist, she insists....
    JANE: 'Well, I've not spoken because the Portuguese police told us not to talk about the case at all, and.. you know, from day one we've done everything we can to help them with the investigation. I think maybe I'm talking now because I'm being called a liar and a fantasist and all this, and I know what I saw and I think it's important that people know what I saw because I believe Madeleine was abducted.'

    'JANE: I'd love to, yeah, I think.. you know, I actively want to be re-interviewed. If there is a feeling that what we're saying is wrong, you know, be interviewed.. you know, and we can clarify that it's not wrong, you know, we're not making things up, it's just what happened.' Panorama, BBC1." (uit de docu, vorig jaar uitgezonden)
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    Your child is missing - 48 questions to answer


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    En dit zelf maar even bijeen gesprokkeld, als tekst ipv het filmpje, voor het internet-archief, op rij de 48 vragen aan Kate McCann die ze weigerde te beantwoorden, op eentje na:
    quote:
    1- On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?

    2- Did you search inside the master bedroom wardrobe? (she replied that she wouldn’t answer)

    3- (shown 2 photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?

    4- Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (whose photo was shown to her) been tampered with? Did somebody go behind that sofa?

    5- How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected your daughter Madeleine’s disappearance?

    6- Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

    7- Assuming Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins home alone to go to the ‘Tapas’ and raise the alarm? Because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment.

    8- Why didn’t you ask the twins, at that moment, what had happened to their sister or why didn’t you ask them later on?

    9- When you raised the alarm at the ‘Tapas’ what exactly did you say and what were your exact words?

    10- What happened after you raised the alarm in the ‘Tapas’?

    11- Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

    12- Who contacted the authorities?

    13- Who took place in the searches?

    14- Did anyone outside of the group learn of Madeleine’s disappearance in those following minutes?

    15- Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?

    16- What does “we let her down” mean?

    17- Did Jane tell you that night that she’d seen a man with a child?

    18- How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?

    19- During the searches, with the police already there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?

    20- Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?

    21- Who did you phone after the occurrence?

    22- Did you call Sky News?

    23- Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?

    24- Did you ask for a priest?

    25- By what means did you divulge Madeleine’s features, by photographs or by any other means?
    26- Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?

    27- What was your behaviour that night?

    28- Did you manage to sleep?

    29- Before travelling to Portugal did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?

    30- What was Madeleine’s behaviour like?

    31- Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?

    32- What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister?

    33- What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?

    34- As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?

    35- What is your medical specialty?

    36- Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?

    37- Did you work every day?

    38- At a certain point you stopped working, why?

    39- Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?

    40- Is it true that sometimes you despaired with your children’s behaviour and that left you feeling very uneasy?

    41- Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?

    42- In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?

    43- In the case files you were forensic testing films, where you can see them marking due to detection of the scent of human corpse and blood traces, also human, and only human, as well as all the comments of the technician in charge of them. After watching and after the marking of the scent of corpse in your bedroom beside the wardrobe and behind the sofa, pushed up against the sofa wall, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

    44- When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

    45- When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

    46- When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

    47- When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, whose analysis was carried out in a British laboratory, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?

    48- Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter’s disappearance?

    A Question She Did Answer

    - Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardizing the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?

    - “Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks.”
    En over de medetegenwerking van de Tapas 7 die nu zo mauwen over de geleden schade, hoe zat het ook alweer??? Reminder: "De ouders van Madeleine McCann, Gerry en Kate en hun vakantie-vrienden, de zogenoemde Tapas 7, weigeren deel te nemen aan de reconstructie die plaats zou vinden op 29/30 mei j.l.in het Portugese Praia de Luz. De McCanns vinden het o.a. te lang geleden, Kate McCann zou het niet aankunnen en de PJ weigerde deze reconstructie te zien als een soort CrimeWatch, de Nederlandse variant van Opsporing Verzocht. De Tapas-vrienden (Russell O’Brien en zijn partner Jane Tanner, Rachael en Matthew Oldfield, Fiona en David Payne, en Fiona's moeder, Dianne Webster) konden het niet in kun drukke schema inpassen en volgens sommige krantenberichten waren enkele vrienden bang dat ze, net als Kate en Gerry, als formeel verdachten (Arguido's) zouden worden verklaard. De reconstructie zou moeten nagaan of de door henzelf opgegeven timeslines op die fatale avond op 3 mei 2007 wel kloppen wat betreft het checken van de kinderen die alleen sliepen in de diverse apartementen."

    Dat we het nog ff maar weer weten....

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    kahaarindonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 17:19
    Mooie reminder Suko, zowel de vragen als de interviews met Jane, belachelijk ergens dat ze gewoon geld krijgen terwijl ze niet eens naar Portugal zijn gegaan voor de reconstructie en er gewoon bewezen kan worden dat ze tegenstrijdige dingen hebben gezegd......

    Oh ja, de frontpage heeft ook een artikel over de Tapas7:
    Schadevergoeding voor vrienden McCanns
    kahaarindonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 17:36
    quote:
    Op dinsdag 14 oktober 2008 11:13 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Ik heb deze post van Spudgun even teruggetrokken, misschien plaats ik deze weer maar ik wacht eerst even deze discussie af, hij post een aantal antwoorden zoals deze die mij verontrusten. Ik wacht het af....
    Dit is het antwoord van Spudgun op een poster die wantrouwen uitsprak:
    quote:
    I guess you have answered your own question. My predominant purpose for listing was, indeed, to boost morale. I happen to think that morale is one of the ingredients that will ensure the continuation of this Forum, which I believe to be critical in the fight to ensure that Madeleine McCann is not consigned to the annals of 'unsolved mysteries'.

    You are, I feel, a tad unkind in suggesting that I have " contributed little or nothing to the forum before". Many posters here know me from having made inummerable postings on Anorak, the Mirror Forums and the old Sky News Madeleine Forum. Many people also know me as a Journalist, although I do not generally write copy, I work within the TV Media, although I DID publish "A story for Christmas" on a UK news website and have posted several articles in the Portuguese press. Hardly Queen Mother like, I would suggest, but I feel it does help to dispel the 'Charlatan' tag, does it not? I would respectfully suggest that you are suffereing from some inexplicable syndrome that renders you incapable of grasping the fundamentals of what I am trying to write. There are no outrageous claims in my post, no promises of false hope.

    If you knew anything about me at all, you would know that my predominant claim, right back to mid 2007 when I first started posting, is that Kate and Gerry McCann have friends and influence in very high places, and that they would escape any charges whatsoever, let alone convictions. That is STILL my position. I stated, (much to the chagrin of many other posters), that the Regoratory letters would never truly be executed, and that Gordon Brown would take the opportunity to intervene in the case and stop the Portuguese from visiting to conduct their enquiries when he attended the EU conference in Portugal, (which he did; I made at least FIVE posts, stating that the Portuguese entourage would not take place, despite the Portuguese Press stating that the team would be boarding a plane to the UK within 24 hours. It took 4 Months to get here, after the Home Office eventually gave the go ahead, and they never conducted a fraction of the enquiries that they were meant to). It was my letter that elicited the response from Piers Merchant that eventually forced Gordon Brown to make the only comment he has ever made to the press in the Madeleine McCann case, stating that the Government had not, inordinately assisted the McCanns.

    I am not trying to blow any trumpet here. I am not, and have NEVER tried to make any accusation or wild claim. I have many, extensive contacts within both the UK and Portugal, and I have posted many things that I have been told by them, all of which have subsequently been borne out, especially within the released documents. I can not understand why my postings should cause you such concern or sceptism. I have hardly made an outlandish assertion. The information that is in the posession of my colleague, (ie: the 30,000 documents), is hardly revelationary, given that most other news agencies have the same documentation. I have merely added the information that he and I have gleaned from conducting additional enquiries in Portugal and elsewhere. I have NEVER made any claim to know what happened. (Again, if you read my posts, I have always stated that I do NOT have any true notion of what happened). I would love for nothing more than for Madeleine McCann to be found in a remote area of god knows where, alive and well. I would happily face ridicule and scorn for my postings. Until that time comes, I believe that there are questions that need to be asked, and all my posting says is that I now believe that they will be. Whether the answers will be forthcoming remains to be seen.

    You are quite free to fester in your own pit of gloom, mistrust and negativity. I, for the first time in this case are optomistic for the future.
    Nou, zeg het maar......
    Sukodonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 23:15
    quote:
    Op donderdag 16 oktober 2008 17:36 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

    [..]

    Dit is het antwoord van Spudgun op een poster die wantrouwen uitsprak:
    [..]

    Nou, zeg het maar......
    Tja, veel van wat hij schrijft is ook door anderen voorspelt, zelfs hier op Fok! Ik merk een zekere arrogantie, stelt veel te weten en dan weer niet. Heeft veel contacten in Portugal en de UK. "The information that is in the posession of my colleague, (ie: the 30,000 documents), is hardly revelationary, given that most other news agencies have the same documentation. I have merely added the information that he and I have gleaned from conducting additional enquiries in Portugal and elsewhere. I have NEVER made any claim to know what happened. (Again, if you read my posts." Zoveel tegenstrijdigheden, ik twijfel heel sterk. Duik er dan in, spreek met die en die, doe wat! Ik zou dan verder alles op alles zetten wat scoops (if any) trachten te slijten, wáár dan ook Maar dit merendeels non-nieuws werkt op mij als een rode lap op een stier, of andersom, ben ik ff kwijt. Maar goed, ik zou liever géén twijfels hebben, time will tell....Kahaarin.
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    Op deze site wordt terecht de vraag gesteld wat de kinderen van de McCanns later met dit alles aanmoeten, daar moet je toch even niet aan denken., half internet staat er vol mee....

    En ook deze vraag wordt op dezelfde site aan de orde gesteld: "Sean and Amelie and the legacy of the McCanns: what's in the urn on the mantlepiece mummy?"



    Ze zeggen dat het ook een moneypot kan zijn, ik vind die foto van Madeleine er naast ook wat vreemd, afbeelding is een shotje uit de docu ITV1 'Madeleine, One Year On' documentary van vriend en peetoom van de twins, Jon Corner, destijds uitgezonden door sbs6. Ik dacht exact hetzelfde toen net als vele anderen, dat lijkt wel een urn, en ook al is het een geldpot, ook dan is het veelzeggend, bizar.

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    Sukodonderdag 16 oktober 2008 @ 23:35
    Nog ff op het nippertje: STV NEWS AT TEN "A reporter on the news has just stated that Kate and Gerry are in discussion's with other newspapers and if the talks fall down it could end up in court."

    Well I hope whoever they are they do not lie down or give them a penny. When are the press going to turn surely they cannot allow these constant attacks on the media and allow them to go unchallenged? It is time for the press to get some b**** and go all the way with them. Time to fight back. Otherwise it will be visions of them outside the High court from here to eternity and the fact that this was ever about a missing girl will be long forgotten." 3arguidos

    En op pag 1 schrijft iemand: "Perhaps the papers should let it go to court or this could go on forever." < Laten we dat eens hopen. Waar blijft die rijke stinkerd Brian Kennedy eigenlijk, hij zou toch die hele bende tot z'n dood van geld voorzien?! Sunday, 7 September 2008 McCann case: Brian Kennedy ready to finance the McCanns for the rest of his life! Fonds opheffen en klaar is Kees, punt.

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    >>> Madeleine - DNA / Forensic Science Service <<<
    Sukovrijdag 17 oktober 2008 @ 12:03
    Afijn, ik zal Clarence Mitchell & Co ff helpen nu ze mogelijk van plan zijn nog meer Britse kranten aan te klagen...Volgens de Britse Metro: "Friends of Madeleine McCann's parents who were with the couple on the night she died are to receive £375,000 in libel damages, it has been reported."

    Nige van McCannFiles heeft er een screenshotje van gemaakt voor het geval dat het artikel wordt ge-update of helemaal verdwijnt. Dat de Metro 'died' schrijft ipv van vermist zegt veel over de gedachten die uiteindelijk ook leeft onder editors/jouno's, dat Madeleine stierf op 3 mei in Praia da Luz.


    Screenshot of Metro article stating Madeleine 'died'

    Die Fiona Payne bakt ze wel bruin hoor in haar verklaring namens de rest van gisteren voor het gerechtssgebouw: "The defamatory stories written about us were not only extremely damaging on a personal level, but we strongly feel were detrimental to the search for Madeleine. "This aspect has been particularly heartbreaking to witness." The Harold

    Detrimental = schadelijk. Zo dus, al die verhalen in de pers heeft schade aan hun toegebracht én aan de zoektocht naar madeleine. Vreemd toch, als ze zelf niet wilden meewerken aan de reconstructie, zou toch kunnen dat iemand's herinnering werd opgefrist, van wie dan ook. Maar nee, geen tijd, liever wisselende verklaringen afgeven die onderling voor geen meter kloppen...

    Overigens denkt niemand op fora en blogs dat de uitgekeerde schadevergoeding daadwerklijk naar het fonds gaat, of het komt weer naar ze terug na wat belasting-trucjes....waarom zouden ze dat geld niet zelf houden? Of er speelt iets tussen de Tapas 7 en de McCanns....

    Anyway, sue them, Clarrie, sue them all, but maybe some newspapers will take the McCanns to court, but you know, Amaral has far more reasons to sue the British press...: ') Why not sue him Clarrie??? A little scared? And were was Russell O'Brian yesterdag??? And Diana Webster, mother of Fiona, why did she get some money, she said never a word or was mistreated in the papers....

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    A detailed look at the events that unfolded during the early days of August when the specialist British sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, arrived in Portugal. McCannfiles.
    kahaarinzaterdag 18 oktober 2008 @ 17:14
    Inderdaad, giften kunnen van de belasting afgetrokken worden tot op zekere hoogte dus is het helemaal niet zo'n royaal gebaar denk ik.

    Hebben we al eerder gehoord van deze man?
    quote:
    There is no doubt that Brian Kennedy is a driven man. He has built a business empire with a turnover of more than £400million, as owner he has transformed Sale Sharks into one of the leading rugby clubs in Britain, who face Munster tomorrow in the second round of the Heineken Cup, and fathered five children.

    He is ultra-competitive. Only last weekend he raced Kingsley Jones, the club's coach and former Wales captain, uphill and beat him even though there is more than ten years between them. Family - he married at 19 - sport and the commercial world are his life blood. But over the past year he has also been consumed by another cause. Kennedy has been heavily involved in supporting Gerry and Kate McCann in the search for Madeleine, their missing daughter.

    Kennedy 48, is reluctant to talk about his role or the reasons why he chose to put a chunk of his fortune, estimated at more than £250million, at their disposal. He has said before that he simply felt compelled to step in. “I have chosen to keep a low profile on this,” Kennedy said yesterday. “It is not about me. It is about Madeleine. I don't want to comment personally on this except to say there is a big job still to do and we are focusing on getting it done.”

    Seventeen months after her disappearance in Portugal, Kennedy remains as committed as ever to discovering what happened to Madeleine and helping the family to end their torment. “Am I still involved?” he said. “Absolutely. Have we given up hope? Have we hell. The battle has just commenced. We have plans and when we are ready to tell the world about them we will do so.”

    Kennedy has become friends with the McCanns and Gerry has been his guest at Sale. “He is a keen rugby man and really likes his sport,” Kennedy said. Asked how he thought they are coping, he replied: “The only person who could answer that is someone who has gone through the same thing. Fortunately, the vast majority of us have not. As a parent you feel for them. Whatever you feel, the horrible feeling you feel when you think about it, you have to multiply it by infinity to start getting a glimpse of how it must really feel.”

    On Thursday, two newspapers had to pay substantial damages to seven friends of the McCanns who were on holiday at the time Madeleine went missing. Kennedy cannot comprehend how people could even think that the couple were somehow culpable, or how difficult it must have been to live their nightmare in public. “To lose your child and then be blamed?” he said. “It is ludicrous and horrible the things the press were saying.”

    Is he optimistic that there will be a positive resolution? “I am neither optimistic nor pessimistic,” he said. “I am realistic. We are just getting on doing what can be done and who knows how it will turn out. It is a very big part of my life. There are a lot of people helping by putting in a lot of time. But as I have said, it is not about me, them, Kate or Gerry. It is about a poor little kid who might be out there needing to be found. So therefore we need to move mountains to find her.”
    kahaarinzaterdag 18 oktober 2008 @ 17:19
    moet je dit trouwens eens zien:
    quote:
    McCann holiday pals win E500,000 in libel damages Irish Sun - Europe 15:48 17-Oct-08

    'Tapas Seven' win libel damages from papers National Post - Today's Paper 10:01 17-Oct-08

    McCann friends win case against tabloids IOL - World 08:33 17-Oct-08

    Friends of missing girl’s parents win libel claim Dawn - International 03:09 17-Oct-08

    Group wins libel payout in McCann case TVNZ 00:12 17-Oct-08

    £375,000 damages for Tapas Seven Guardian Unlimited - UK News 00:12 17-Oct-08

    McCann friends win damages The Mercury - World 22:24 16-Oct-08

    ‘Tapas Seven’ win damages Gulf Times - Home 21:57 16-Oct-08

    Tabloids pay out over McCann accusation Stuff.co.nz - World News 21:33 16-Oct-08

    McCann 'Tapas 7' win almost $990k damages Perth Now - Breaking News 20:23 16-Oct-08

    'Tapas Seven' win payout and apology Your Local Guardian - Kingston 18:10 16-Oct-08

    Newspapers pay 375,000 pounds in Madeleine McCann libel damages RIA Novosti 14:46 16-Oct-08

    Kate and Gerry McCann's friends win £375,000 libel damages Belfast Telegraph - News 14:13 16-Oct-08

    "Tapas 7" win libel payout from papers Reuters UK - Home 12:59 16-Oct-08

    'Tapas Seven' accept damages in Madeleine McCann case Telegraph.co.uk - News 12:31 16-Oct-08

    Acquaintances of Madeleine McCann accept damages from British papers 5 hours ago National Post - Ottawa Citizen 12:29 16-Oct-08

    Newspaper damages for Madeleine McCann coverage International Herald Tribune - Europe 12:26 16-Oct-08

    Acquaintances of Madeleine McCann accept damages from British papers canada.com 12:16 16-Oct-08

    McCann case 'Tapas Seven' accept damages from papers Yahoo! US - Europe 12:13 16-Oct-08

    McCann 'Tapas Seven' friends win £375,000 in damages The Scotsman - News 11:59 16-Oct-08

    McCanns: Express apology to tapas seven The Guardian 11:26 16-Oct-08

    McCann friends awarded libel damages The Irish Times - News 11:13 16-Oct-08

    'Tapas Seven' granted libel damages over McCann allegations The Earth Times 11:13 16-Oct-08

    'Tapas Seven' accept £375,000 libel damages from Express Newspapers Sunday Mirror 11:08 16-Oct-08

    Madeleine McCann: Daily Express and Daily Star print apologies to 'tapas seven' Guardian Unlimited - Media 09:57 16-Oct-08

    Express group to pay McCann friends damages - The Times Inner Temple Library 09:21 16-Oct-08

    McCann friends receive damages BBCi - England 07:41 16-Oct-08

    Libel payout for McCann friends BBC - News Front Page 07:40 16-Oct-08

    Madeleine McCann: Express pays out to 'tapas seven' Press Gazette - National Newspapers 07:26 16-Oct-08

    Madeleine McCann Daily Express publishes apology to 'Tapas Seven' Telegraph.co.uk - News 06:58 16-Oct-08

    Express group to pay McCann damages The Times - News 21:43 15-Oct-08

    McCann friends to receive £400,000 in damages Telegraph.co.uk - UK 19:55 15-Oct-08

    Roy Greenslade: Express Newspapers to apologise again for Madeleine coverage Guardian Unlimited 17:34 15-Oct-08

    Tapas 7's '£375k damages' for Maddie reports Metro.co.uk 17:31 15-Oct-08

    Another Express libel payout in Madeleine McCann case Press Gazette 17:26 15-Oct-08

    McCann friends win 'substantial' libel payout The Independent - News 17:15 15-Oct-08

    Madeleine McCann: Express Newspapers to pay £375,000 libel damages to 'tapas seven'
    Volgens mij is hier nu meer over gepost dan de laatste paar sightings..... Het is wel duidelijk waar het om gaat onderhand, BINGO!
    paraponozaterdag 18 oktober 2008 @ 18:27
    hai ik lurk al een tijdje mee zoals jullie dat noemen maar nu wordt het me toch te dol. Ofwel je geeft geen samenvatting van engelse teksten of je doet het volledig. Maar hapsnap wat eruit pikken en de hele politieke lijn weglaten (thnx Spudgun) gaat echt
    te ver. Wel makkelijk, je gebruikt alleen die info die je snapt. Up to you. Maar in je zelfgekozen rol in dit topic past dat niet, en doe je de werkelijkheid geweld aan. Zonde. Maar oordelen weer wel, occams razor. Zonde van al jullie werk meiden, maar dit kan echt beter. Mvg parapono
    Sukozaterdag 18 oktober 2008 @ 23:04
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 18 oktober 2008 17:19 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
    moet je dit trouwens eens zien:
    [..]

    Volgens mij is hier nu meer over gepost dan de laatste paar sightings..... Het is wel duidelijk waar het om gaat onderhand, BINGO!
    Hoooi Kahaarin. Het blijft daarom ook zeeeeeer opvallend dat de Britse Metro, als enige krant, zoals ik al heb gepost, dit schrijft, en het staat er nog steeds: "Friends of Madeleine McCann's parents who were with the couple on the night she died are to receive £375,000 in libel damages, it has been reported." Ik vermoed een statementje op zich, geen klakkeloos overgenomen artikel van PR-man Clarence Mitchell zoals alle andere kranten die het over vermist of ontvoerd hebben.
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 18 oktober 2008 17:14 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
    Inderdaad, giften kunnen van de belasting afgetrokken worden tot op zekere hoogte dus is het helemaal niet zo'n royaal gebaar denk ik.

    Hebben we al eerder gehoord van deze man?
    [..]
    Ja inderdaad waar hebben we hem, geldschieterd Brian Kennedy, eerder gehoord, interessant en zeer juist commentaar op dat artikel: "Why didnt you ask him why he was personally visiting key witnesses in the McCann mystery? That would have been interesting." Charlotte, Richmond, NorthYorkshire, UK

    Hij durft BK dit te zeggen: "We are just getting on doing what can be done and who knows how it will turn out. It is a very big part of my life. There are a lot of people helping by putting in a lot of time. But as I have said, it is not about me, them, Kate or Gerry. It is about a poor little kid who might be out there needing to be found. So therefore we need to move mountains to find her.”

    Het enige wat er tot nu is gedaan is uh...pieker...uh...sjucht...peins peins...neu, ik kom er wel op hoor....het wil me maar niet te buiten schieten....
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    En verder een interessant artikel van Amaral die de zaak Madeleine McCann vergelijkt met de kleine Caylee Marie Anthony in de US, bron: 18.10.08 Spot the differences: by Gonçalo Amaral
    quote:
    A three-year-old little girl is missing. The police started an investigation. It collected traces in the boot of the mother’s car that point towards the child’s death. In the car boot, the dogs marked human cadaver odour, and hair that is similar to that of the missing girl was found. The mother was charged with homicide, abuse, neglect and perjury.

    It’s difficult to escape comparisons with recent cases that happened in our country. While it’s certain that every case is different, even more so because this little girl’s name was Caylee, she was a brunette and lived in the USA, there was also the creation of a fund and of an internet site, posters were distributed and bracelets were sold. It seems that in the United States justice is working, not allowing for processes to be archived awaiting better evidence, valuing indicia that results from inconsistencies or contradictions in witness statements and/or biological residues that are found in a car boot.

    I don’t know whether our jurists and other experts, who oppose canine faith and defend the archiving of processes waiting for better evidence, may have something to learn from North-American magistrates and investigators, or if it’s only an issue of nationality of the dogs. Wise words were spoken by someone over the evidence of Caylee’s death: "Speaking as a father, a day doesn't pass where I wish the evidence that we have gathered didn't add up to the painfully obvious. Sadly, I cannot change the facts surrounding the investigation."

    source: Correio da Manhã, 18.10.2008 by Astro on Joana Morais
    Spot the difference articles here
    In deze zaak wordt tenminste korte metten gemaakt, zie verder dit topic en hier nog meer over Caylee Marie Anthony Ik ga er verder niet op in maar het gaat er om hoe de kwestie wordt opgepakt in de UK (niet) en de US (wel).

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    kahaarinzondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 13:33
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 18 oktober 2008 18:27 schreef parapono het volgende:
    hai ik lurk al een tijdje mee zoals jullie dat noemen maar nu wordt het me toch te dol. Ofwel je geeft geen samenvatting van engelse teksten of je doet het volledig. Maar hapsnap wat eruit pikken en de hele politieke lijn weglaten (thnx Spudgun) gaat echt
    te ver. Wel makkelijk, je gebruikt alleen die info die je snapt. Up to you. Maar in je zelfgekozen rol in dit topic past dat niet, en doe je de werkelijkheid geweld aan. Zonde. Maar oordelen weer wel, occams razor. Zonde van al jullie werk meiden, maar dit kan echt beter. Mvg parapono
    Fijn dat je meelurkt maar commentaar leveren zonder input van jou vind ik een beetje makkelijk, als je wil meepraten graag, je mening geven en onderbouwde kritiek is ook meer dan welkom maar hier heeft niemand wat aan. Als jij denkt dat we het niet snappen en onvolledig quoten zou ik graag zien dat je ons aanvult en uitlegd wat je bedoelt.
    Sukozondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 13:38
    @ Kahaarin, ik denk dat je helemaal gelijk krijgt toen je schreef dat de Daily Express mogelijk een deel heeft gesloten (scoops) met de McCanns, kijk wat Anorak meldt, een pittg artikel:
    quote:
    SUNDAY EXPRESS (front page): “FBI psychics turn up new Maddie suspect”

    The Express is censured, twice. And thus it become the official Our Maddie paper… Is this front page part of the libel settlement? Is the Express now in the McCann camp? It;s tried beating them, so why not join them?

    Before the sensation, the apology for the sensation…

    In articles published on 16 September and 2 December 2007 we suggested that Russell O’Brien and Jane Tanner, the holiday companions of Kate and Gerry McCann, might be named as official suspects by the Portuguese police investigating Madeleine’s disappearance and that Dr O’Brien might have helped to cover up the true facts.

    Might. Might. Such are the facts…

    We now accept that these suggestions should never have been made and were completely untrue.

    Fact. Now read on…

    Kate and Gerry McCann are reviewing their strategy as no major breakthrough has emerged in the hunt for Madeleine…

    B-b-but the FBI psychics. We heard a rumour in a newspaper that…

    Heart specialist Mr McCann said in his blog report last week: “Kate and I have been incredibly busy over the last couple of months since the files were made public.”

    Facts. And that’s Dr Kate, to you…

    Millionaire businessman Brian Kennedy, their financial backer, is seeking a former high-ranking police detective to mastermind the private investigation.

    Yes, we know. Anorak reported on that weeks ago. But the FBI. The psychics. Come in Maddy…

    Speculation. Magick. And a missing child…
    Dat artiklel over de FBI is (nog) niet online, wel een screenshotje:



    En dat Jane Tanner Russel O'Brien geld en excuses van de DE hebben gekregen, zou dat idd losstaan van dat geld aan de Tapas als geheel? En idd nog een DE-artikel van vandaag:
    quote:
    Hunt for detective to head Maddy probe Sunday Express

    By Brendan Abbott Sunday October 19, 2008

    Kate and Gerry McCann are reviewing their strategy as no major breakthrough has emerged in the hunt for Madeleine. Millionaire businessman, Brian Kennedy, their financial backer, is seeking a former high-ranking police detective to mastermind the private investigation.

    He has interviewed several candidates and will see more in the coming weeks. Whoever takes on the job faces the mammoth task of assessing information gathered by many private detectives since Madeleine vanished 18 months ago.

    The investigator will also have to read thousands of pages of Portuguese police files released in August and painstakingly translated. The family's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the investigation was continuing in many countries as the McCanns study the files line by line.

    Heart specialist Mr McCann said in his blog report last week: "Kate and I have been incredibly busy over the last couple of months since the files were made public.

    "We and our family have always vowed to leave no stone unturned in the search for our daughter and knowing exactly what has been done and, more importantly, what has not been done is vital in planning our future strategy."
    Ohw, ze hebben geen haast: "Brian Kennedy, their financial backer, is seeking a former high-ranking police detective to mastermind the private investigation. He has interviewed several candidates and will see more in the coming weeks." Pfff, gelukkig maar, geen zorgen voor de dag van morgen, Madeleine wacht wel weer een tijdje....

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    kahaarinzondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 13:39
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    Op zaterdag 18 oktober 2008 23:04 schreef Suko het volgende:

    Hoooi Kahaarin. Het blijft daarom ook zeeeeeer opvallend dat de Britse Metro, als enige krant, zoals ik al heb gepost, dit schrijft, en het staat er nog steeds: "Friends of Madeleine McCann's parents who were with the couple on the night she died are to receive £375,000 in libel damages, it has been reported." Ik vermoed een statementje op zich, geen klakkeloos overgenomen artikel van PR-man Clarence Mitchell zoals alle andere kranten die het over vermist of ontvoerd hebben.
    Hey Suko, tja wat moet je daar van zeggen, ik denk dat het ofwel een bewuste uitdaging is of een foutje, ik denk dat ze het op het laatste gooien maar dat er weloverwogen gekozen is voor deze zinssnede.
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    Ja inderdaad waar hebben we hem, geldschieterd Brian Kennedy, eerder gehoord, interessant en zeer juist commentaar op dat artikel: "Why didnt you ask him why he was personally visiting key witnesses in the McCann mystery? That would have been interesting." Charlotte, Richmond, NorthYorkshire, UK

    Hij durft BK dit te zeggen: "We are just getting on doing what can be done and who knows how it will turn out. It is a very big part of my life. There are a lot of people helping by putting in a lot of time. But as I have said, it is not about me, them, Kate or Gerry. It is about a poor little kid who might be out there needing to be found. So therefore we need to move mountains to find her.”

    Het enige wat er tot nu is gedaan is uh...pieker...uh...sjucht...peins peins...neu, ik kom er wel op hoor....het wil me maar niet te buiten schieten....
    Nouhou, vergeet het Amber alert niet en de metodo3 mannen en de andere Pi's die, ehm tja, een heleboel geld hebben gekost en de posters en flyers, de zoektochten na de sightings.....
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    En verder een interessant artikel van Amaral die de zaak Madeleine McCann vergelijkt met de kleine Caylee Marie Anthony in de US, bron: 18.10.08 Spot the differences: by Gonçalo Amaral

    In deze zaak wordt tenminste korte metten gemaakt, zie verder dit topic en hier nog meer over Caylee Marie Anthony Ik ga er verder niet op in maar het gaat er om hoe de kwestie wordt opgepakt in de UK (niet) en de US (wel).
    Precies, en daar zit de kneep, er wordt niets gepubliceerd over de zaak inhoudelijk in de Uk, alleen maar buitenlandse pers die de vinger op de zere plekken legt. Ook het boek van Amaral zal niet in Engeland gepubliceerd worden, ik bedoel maar.
    Sukozondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 13:40
    foutje...
    Sukozondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 13:58
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    Op zondag 19 oktober 2008 13:33 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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    Fijn dat je meelurkt maar commentaar leveren zonder input van jou vind ik een beetje makkelijk, als je wil meepraten graag, je mening geven en onderbouwde kritiek is ook meer dan welkom maar hier heeft niemand wat aan. Als jij denkt dat we het niet snappen en onvolledig quoten zou ik graag zien dat je ons aanvult en uitlegd wat je bedoelt.
    Ik ben het met je eens Kahaarin, bovendien is het tamelijk nutteloos ellenlange analyses te plaatsen van iemand die we eigenlijk niet kennen en waarvan ik zei de gek een paar foutjes heb ontdekt.

    @ parapono. Een eerdere anylayse van Spudgun aangaande de Britse pers van vorig jaar blijft zeer lezenswaardig (hier en Anorak te lezen), hij was de eerste die er zo uitgebreid op inging. En verder zijn er door posters in dit topic zeker wel achtergronden weergegeven, tot aan het Verdrag van Lissabon aan toe. Maar als je zelf iets aan te vullen hebt, graag!

    @ Kahaarin, ik denk dat Metro wel degelijk bewust DIED plaatste, 'als' het een typefout was en ze bv LIED bedoelde dan klopt de zin niet...nee, dat is echt een statement zoals er nog meer zo over denken.

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    kahaarinzondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 14:03
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    Op zondag 19 oktober 2008 13:38 schreef Suko het volgende:
    @ Kahaarin, ik denk dat je helemaal gelijk krijgt toen je schreef dat de Daily Express mogelijk een deel heeft gesloten (scoops) met de McCanns, kijk wat Anorak meldt, een pittg artikel:
    Goh, ik had liever ongelijk gehad maar het lag er dan ook wel errug dik bovenop.....
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    Dat artiklel over de FBI is (nog) niet online, wel een screenshotje:

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    Spannend hoor, misschien gaan ze de ghostwhisperer, Ogilve, ook wel contracteren, en die Nederlandse die toen in PdL was geweest...... * kahaarin alu hoedje weer opzoekt.....*
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    En dat Jane Tanner Russel O'Brien geld en excuses van de DE hebben gekregen, zou dat idd losstaan van dat geld aan de Tapas als geheel? En idd nog een DE-artikel van vandaag:
    ow noes, ik stel voor de containers zout weer tevoorschijn te halen, net als in het begin.
    quote:
    Ohw, ze hebben geen haast: "Brian Kennedy, their financial backer, is seeking a former high-ranking police detective to mastermind the private investigation. He has interviewed several candidates and will see more in the coming weeks." Pfff, gelukkig maar, geen zorgen voor de dag van morgen, Madeleine wacht wel weer een tijdje....
    Inderdaad, misschien kunnen ze ook wel een soort van wedstrijd gaan houden, net als 'het zesde zintuig' hier op de TV, wie weet hoe een koe een haas vangt.
    kahaarinzondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 14:08
    Remlof bedankt voor het wijzigen van de OP.
    Sukozondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 14:29
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    Op zondag 19 oktober 2008 14:03 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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    Goh, ik had liever ongelijk gehad maar het lag er dan ook wel errug dik bovenop.....
    [..]

    Spannend hoor, misschien gaan ze de ghostwhisperer, Ogilve, ook wel contracteren, en die Nederlandse die toen in PdL was geweest...... * kahaarin alu hoedje weer opzoekt.....*
    [..]

    ow noes, ik stel voor de containers zout weer tevoorschijn te halen, net als in het begin.
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    [..]

    Inderdaad, misschien kunnen ze ook wel een soort van wedstrijd gaan houden, net als 'het zesde zintuig' hier op de TV, wie weet hoe een koe een haas vangt.
    Niets mee aan toe te voegen....
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    Inmiddels neeft Nige van McCannfiles dat artikel uit de Sunday Express uitgetypt (is dus niet online) en geplaatst, leest lekker weg op een zondag:
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    FBI Psychics turn up new Maddy suspect Sunday Express (appears in paper edition only)

    EXCLUSIVE From Mike Parker in Los Angeles

    Psychics have given police a picture of a man they say could have kidnapped Madeleine McCann. They have also given officers an address where they say Madeleine was held by a kidnapper.

    The two investigators work closely with the FBI in America. A US TV show arranged for them to spend a week in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz, where Madeleine disappeared last year.

    Madeleine's parents say they want a copy of the drawing for their own team of private detectives.

    FULL STORY: PAGES 4 & 5

    Pages 4 & 5:

    FBI mediums and the face of Maddy 'killer'

    From Mike Parker in Los Angeles

    A DRAWING of a man two FBI psychics say snatched Madeleine McCann has been produced by an American TV programme.

    Now investigators working for Kate and Gerry McCann say they want to see the so-called evidence revealed in the programme, which was screened last week in the US.

    The drawing is of a man aged between 36 and 42 with thick dark brown or black hair and stubble. It has now been handed over to police in Portugal.

    It was produced by two psychic criminal protilers who work closely with the FBI in America.

    A spokesman for the McCanns said that although they were deeply sceptical of information from psychics, they want their private
    investigators to examine the information which was broadcast.

    "If they have given their files to the police in Portugal they should also pass them on to our investigators," said Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns spokesman, who gave a brief interview to the programme makers.

    The programme says the man has a pronounced accent and looks and sounds Middle Eastern, possibly Egyptian, and drives a mid-sized dark silver car with a parking permit or some other identifying sticker inside the windscreen on the driver's side.

    He 'may have been wearing a blue, button-up shirt and working as a transient labourer close to the apartment in Praia cia Luz on the Algarve where Madeleine was staying with her family before vanishing on May 3.

    The report given to Portuguese police says the man is known as Steve or Stay and took the child to a summer rental apartment in the nearby village of Lagos.

    The team, clairvoyant Carla Baron, psychic John J Oliver and
    paranormal investigator Patrick Burns spent a week in Portugal, starting their inqµiries at the Ocean club resort where the McCanns had been staying.

    Ms Baron said she immediately picked up on the vision of "Steve" or "Stav" stalking the family and photographing Madeleine at the beach before snatching her several days later.

    Ms Baron said: "He snapped off a cell phone photo while looking like he was making a call.

    "I also see him taking notes on a small notepad as he watched the comings and goings of the McCann family to see what their routine was."

    When he finally pounced at night, while Madeleine's parents were in a nearby restaurant, Ms Baron and Mr Oliver said the little girl did not even wake up as he crept into the children's bedroom and picked her up.

    Mr Oliver: "He took her to his car. There were people walking who saw him but he just looked as if he was a father carrying a sleeping child and they didn't take any notice."

    They say the abductor placed Madeleine in the front passenger seat of his dark silver car, which may have had even darker or black trim.

    Mr Oliver said he believes that the abductor may have stopped briefly at a deserted farmhouse east of the town before driving to his eventual destination - a furnished room rented out during the summer in nearby Lagos.

    Executives at Tru Tv, part of media tycoon Ted Turner's CNN network, which makes the Haunting Evidence programme, passed the apartment address to police but withheld it from transmission.

    The psychics say she was murdered there by being smothered by a pillow several days after her abduction because the man feared he would be caught.

    Ms Baron believes the man then bundled her into the boot of his car and drove to a remote area, close to a landfill and manmade dam, where he buried her. This location has also been passed to police.

    The FBI takes psychic evidence seriously and all three members of the Haunting Evidence team have been used in major criminal investigations.

    OPINION: PAGE 26

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    Sunday Express Opinion

    Searching Maddy questions

    DEVELOPMENTS in the search for Madeleine McCann, who vanished in Portugal last year, are to be welcomed. However, the fact the latest information comes from a team of psychics and has just been screened on an American television programme does give pause for thought. What must never be forgotten is that a little girl vanished that night and no trace has ever been found. The search for Maddy must go on.


    SUSPECT: The man psychics say killed Madeleine
    Ik moet het nog lezen, eerst het bos in, te mooi weer... (de eerste reacties hier)

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    kahaarinzondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 14:46


    Lol, weet je waar hij op lijkt?



    OMG Tim "The Toolman" Taylor did it......



    Het gaat om een man die aan het werk was in de omgeving en hij droeg mogelijk een blauw drukknoopjesshirt..... The plot thickens......
    Sukozondag 19 oktober 2008 @ 23:00
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    Op zondag 19 oktober 2008 14:46 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
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    Lol, weet je waar hij op lijkt?

    [ afbeelding ]

    OMG Tim "The Toolman" Taylor did it......

    [ afbeelding ]

    Het gaat om een man die aan het werk was in de omgeving en hij droeg mogelijk een blauw drukknoopjesshirt..... The plot thickens......
    Ha ha, ik ken die man niet maare, wat dacht je hier van, die gozerd he, zeker een broer dan van Gerry, of is het hem zelf....Zou de Sunday Express een andere bedoeling met dit artikel hebben?


    Dubbeilklik voor scherpte
    Sapperdeflap, wat een rubbish weer. Verhalen worden al slechter. Alle verzinsels zijn zo ongeveer wel langs geweest. Vermoedelijk ook wat gedachten van posters op fora, wat kan het schelen. Als het volk maar vermaakt wordt (over dit onderwerp loopt een topic), als de McCanns maar in beeld blijven. Vertel het één in een artikel, ontken het in een ander krantje. Gerry McCann lijkt wel idd wel op die tekening > voorbeeldjes > (topic) alweer, oude verhalen. Speelde in januari al: Mediums/Psychics: Carla Baron & John J Oliver The Latest Psychics To 'Find' Madeleine McCann, 10 January 2008 Gelezen op McCannfiles. De Daily Mail deed ook een duit in de zak in januari, alsook de Telegraph.

    Interessant is wel dat er in het artikel over een barn wordt gesproken, wat schreef de Sunday Express op 2 december, eerder gepost: 'The hunt for Madeleine McCann last night centred on a disused barn near Praia da Luz where police found a towel stained with what may turn out to be the little girl's blood. Fibres found on the towel allegedly match fibres from the hire car rented by Maddie's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann." Dit is ook het artikel waar de krant vandaag geld en exuses aan Russel O'Brien heeft aangeboden.

    The Sun meldt dat verhaal ook triouwens, eerder gepost: "En verder meldt ook The Sun het verhaal over die gevonden bebloedde handdoek in een schuur, met dezelfde 'fibres' als in de gehuurde auto van de McCanns. En ook over het telefoongesprek tussen Russel O'Brian en Gerry. 'The hunt for Maddie - whose 39-year-old parents Kate and Gerry have also been named suspects by Portuguese detectives - has centred on a disused barn near Praia da Luz where a blood-specked towel was found. The samples have proved too tiny to match to Maddies DNA." Waarom dan The Sun niet wordt aangepakt....

    Anyway, meestal komt er slecht nieuws aan voor de McCanns als ze met zulke bagger komen, zou het boek van Amaral van de week soms in de UK-schappen liggen.... Maar het lijntje naar de US is ververst, Arguido-vrij...laten ze maar voorgoed oprotten naar dat land, in Europa hebben ze niets meer te zoeken, geen hond neemt ze meer serieus, op Eddie en Keela na dan....

    Oja, nog even dit. Uit dat zelfde artkel van vandaag. "Mr Oliver: "He took her to his car. There were people walking who saw him but he just looked as if he was a father carrying a sleeping child and they didn't take any notice."

    Dat is natuurlijk bewust zo geschreven om het verhaal van die Ierse fam. Smith te ontkrachten want zij, vooral pa Smith, zijn er zeker van Gerry McCann te hebben gezien met Madeleine in z'n armen op de avond van de 'vermissing.' Eerdere post+hier.

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    Sukodinsdag 21 oktober 2008 @ 12:26
    En dan toch maar een 'support-verhaal' voor de McCanns in de The Sun, uit documenten, verklaard door Fiona Payne en hubbie David, die laatste had nogal vreemde neigingen op een eerdere vakantie, zie eerdere post.
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    Kate's Maddie holiday premonition - The Sun
    By JAMES CLENCH
    KATE McCann had a haunting premonition about the holiday on which daughter Madeleine went missing.
    She told a close pal before the trip had been booked: “I don’t know why, I’ve just got an uneasy feeling about it.” Fiona Payne, 36, revealed Kate’s worries to Portuguese police. Kate and husband Gerry, both 40, were at first undecided about whether to make the trip, she said.

    Fiona was one of the Tapas Seven who dined with the McCanns on the night of three-year-old Madeleine’s disappearance at the Mark Warner Ocean Club resort in Praia Da Luz. She told an officer: “This always haunts me. Kate ... what she said ... she was unsure.

    “Gerry was quite keen but Kate said, ‘I don’t know why, I’ve just got an uneasy feeling about it.’ “And I don’t know why she said that. I don’t think even she knows.” Fiona’s husband David, 42, said: “Kate didn’t feel quite easy about it.”

    The details emerged during interviews given by the Tapas Seven — David, Fiona, her mum Dianne Webster, 64, Dr Russell O’Brien and his partner Jane Tanner, both 37, Dr Matthew Oldfield, 39, and his wife Rachael, 37. They spoke to cops in April at Enderby, Leics. The documents, which have been seen by The Sun, total more than 1,000 pages.

    Asked how Kate appeared after Madeleine’s disappearance Fiona, an anaesthetist, said: “Awful. I’ve never seen such horrible raw emotion in my life and I’ve seen a lot of it in my job. “She was bereft. She didn’t know what to do, she was panicking, extremely frightened for Madeleine and was wondering where she was or what was happening to her.

    "And the helplessness of not being able to do anything, what should she be doing, what could they do. “She was angry, really angry, punching walls, kicking walls. “The next day she was covered in bruises. She was angry at herself.

    “She kept saying, ‘I’ve let her down. We’ve let her down, Gerry. We should have been here’. And she prayed a lot.” Husband David said: “Gerry broke down ... just a broken man. "He would fling a cupboard open and have a look in a vain, desperate hope she might have been there. “Then he flung himself on the floor and was just kicking the floor and was just, ‘She’s gone, she’s gone’.”

    David’s mother-in-law Dianne said: “Gerry was distraught. I’ve never heard a man make the noises Gerry made.”
    Alle voorgevoelens ten spijt, om vervolgens elke avond de kids alleen te laten, maar ja, ze verklaarde dan ook keer op keer dat het zo veilig voelde....Misschien voorvoelde ze bij zichzelf een naar gevoel...haar eigen verhaal , Kate McCann : My Story Sunday, 5 August 2007 The Independent
    quote:
    "But I knew she wouldn't do that anyway. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind she'd been taken. That's why the fear set in. Then you go through the guilt phase. Straight away, because we didn't know what had happened. We were just so desperately sorry. Every hour now, I still question, 'why did I think that was safe?'

    I can't describe how much I love Madeleine. If I'd had to think for one second, 'should we have dinner and leave them?' I wouldn't have done it. It didn't happen like that. I didn't have to think for a second, that's how safe I felt.

    Maybe it was because it was family-friendly, because it felt so safe. That week we had left them alone while we had dinner. There is no way on this planet I would take a risk, no matter how small, with my children. I do say to myself 'why did I think it was safe?' But it did feel safe and so right. I love her and I'm a totally responsible parent and that's the only thing that keeps me going. I have no doubt about that
    .
    En dat Gerry zo vreemd reageerde: "Then he flung himself on the floor and was just kicking the floor and was just, ‘She’s gone, she’s gone’.”David’s mother-in-law Dianne said: “Gerry was distraught. I’ve never heard a man make the noises Gerry made.”

    Daar heeft Amaral, leider van het politieonderzoek destijds, wel een verklaring voor, uit zijn boek 'The Truth Of The Lie': "The father dropped to his knees in front of the GNR officers when they arrived, made no sense as he is always under control - possibly to contaminate his trousers?" Uit de Correio da Manhã: "The odour was actually found outside the patio doors 'in the flowerbed of the yard'. En wat iotgebreider op McCannfiles: "31 July 2007 Eddie and Keela start work at Apartment 5A In the evening, Portuguese and UK investigators begin their search of apartment 5A with Eddie and Keela. Cadaver odour is indicated in the McCanns bedroom by the wardrobe, in the living room behind a sofa and a light scent indicated outside on the veranda and in a flowerbed. A blood indication is made behind the sofa."

    En dan over Kate's bruises: "And the helplessness of not being able to do anything, what should she be doing, what could they do. “She was angry, really angry, punching walls, kicking walls. “The next day she was covered in bruises. She was angry at herself." Ik heb zo maar het idee dat ze alle berichten in de pers en op fora/bloggers nalopen en deze vervolgens in een eigen nieuw licht plaatsen, dat Kate nu zichzelf mepte vanwege de bruises op de foto. Vermoedelijk heeft Gerry wat losse handjes. Hieruit blijkt wel dat de politie wel de vraag stelde hoe Kate aan die plekken kwam, daar moest dus een verklaring voor komen.


    May 9, 2007
    Bovendien sliepen ze de nacht voor de vermissing apart. "Kate's police report states: "She said she had fallen out with Gerry after he ignored her after dinner when they went to the tapas bar."This only happened on that day. She decided to retaliate by sleeping in another room in the bed near the window." 7/08/2008 The Mirror en ook in 24 Horas: "Declarations of September 6, 2007. The McCanns had a crisis on May 2nd, the night before Maddie's disappearance. On the night of the 2nd May, Kate and Gerry had a row and she went to sleep with the children. Kate was angry because Gerry had not paid attention to her during the dinner at the Tapas." McCannfiles.

    Maar ze maakten nooit ruzie zegt Kate in hetzelfde artikel in The Independent: "As a couple, I think we're stronger than ever. We've got an equal partnership. We don't row, we've never rowed." 5 August 2007
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    En vandaag in The Sun:
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    Maddie: Hol chat on risk of kidnap The Sun

    By JAMES CLENCH and LUCY HAGAN Published: Today (21 0ctober 2008)

    KATE McCann and three friends discussed child-snatchers hours before daughter Madeleine disappeared, it has emerged.

    Dr Russell O'Brien, one of the so-called Tapas Seven, told police of the "haunting" conversation had while on holiday in Portugal last year. He said it came up after another father said he felt awkward photographing his own child.

    Dr O'Brien, 37, was with his partner Jane Tanner, 37, Rachel Oldfield, 37, and Kate, 40. He said: "We then had a conversation about the ludicrous pressure on parents that they can't take photos of their children.

    Stranger

    "The other aspect of the conversation, which is doubly haunting, was that we said, 'You're far more likely to get clobbered by your uncle or your neighbour than some random stranger'.

    "Since this happened ten or 11 hours before Madeleine was abducted, it seemed a very uncomfortable coincidence." The doctor, of Exeter, Devon, made his comments in April as he was quizzed by British cops at the request of the Portuguese authorities.

    The interviews are in documents seen by The Sun. Maddie was snatched in Praia da Luz on May 3 last year, days before her fourth birthday.
    Maar ook nu weer, niemand had moeite de kids alleen te laten, in een vreemd land, apartementen buiten de hekken van het resort, en die van de McCanns > niet afgesloten patiodeuren, aan de openbare weg etc etc....

    The Sun, zouden de journo's weten hoe raar en tegenstrijdig deze statements overkomen???? En op het 3arguidoforum wordt gesuggeerd dat nav wat Russel O'Brien verklaard: "We then had a conversation about the ludicrous pressure on parents that they can't take photos of their children." Dat er daarom (zogenaamd) praktisch geen foto's zijn van de vakantie? Wederom, een invulling achteraf van vragen op fora en blogs...

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    kahaarindinsdag 21 oktober 2008 @ 13:50
    Hey Suko.

    Zelfs over gewone huiselijke dingen geen waarheid dus...... Het geeft te denken.

    Rondje Anorak borduurt weer voort op het missing white female verhaal:
    quote:
    Madeleine McCann: Family Danger, Caylee Anthony And A Challenge To Libel
    MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann



    THE SUN: “Maddie: Hol chat on risk of kidnap”

    James Clench continues his investigation of the McCann’s holiday, and he’s brought Lucy Hagan along for back up…

    Perhaps James can be Gerry McCann and Lucy can be Kate, and they can turn their story into a multi-media play for today? Now read on…

    Kate McCann and three friends discussed child-snatchers hours before daughter Madeleine disappeared, it has emerged.

    Oh, aye. After yesterday’s news of Kate McCann picking up bade vibes, we now have a story that mother of young children talked about bogey men, stranger danger and paedos. What are the odds? Madeleine McCann: The Full Picture:

    Dr Russell O’Brien, one of the so-called Tapas Seven, told police of the “haunting” conversation had while on holiday in Portugal last year. He said it came up after another father said he felt awkward photographing his own child.

    Men and children. Beware. Feel the fear… What of the other facts?

    Dr O’Brien, 37, was with his partner Jane Tanner, 37, Rachel Oldfield, 37, and Kate, 40.

    Facts! Now Clench is getting somewhere…

    He said: “We then had a conversation about the ludicrous pressure on parents that they can’t take photos of their children.

    Bill Henson is listening…

    “The other aspect of the conversation, which is doubly haunting, was that we said, ‘You’re far more likely to get clobbered by your uncle or your neighbour than some random stranger’. Since this happened ten or 11 hours before Madeleine was abducted, it seemed a very uncomfortable coincidence.”

    The words appear like a challenge for readers to libel someone.

    MOM LOGIC (US): “Media Bias: Only White Kids Get Abducted”

    Thousands of kids go missing each day — so why do we never seem to hear about the African-American children?

    We only hear about Madeleine McCann. She is the benchmark for missing chidlren.

    What do JonBenet Ramsey, Madeleine McCann, Elizabeth Smart and Polly Klaas all have in common?

    They were all abducted by aliens? They all had six fingers on their left hand? They all liked pink?

    They are all girls who have been abducted — or in the most tragic cases, killed — and they are all attractive white girls.

    Spooky. Are photogenic white girls more likely to go missing, then?

    The media has always seemed to only be interested in covering stories of white children who go missing — and pretty ones at that. Currently, Caylee Anthony fits that profile: doe-eyed with a winning smile. Despite ourselves when we first heard her story many of us thought, “Oh it’s so sad, she’s such a pretty little girl.”

    Do we value one child above another?

    But pretty and white are not the only children in peril, and are not the only ones who should have our attention. Nearly 800,000 children under the age of 18 are reported missing each year in the United States, according to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Of those reported missing, 33% are African-American. So where’s the 24/7 coverage of their stories?

    Well, not all of the 800,000 are children. Not all stay missing. And not all of them are of a type of child that gels with the readers of national newspapers and the TV news.

    One website is doing its part to at least try to fix the disparity. Black and Missing But Not Forgotten is dedicated to spreading awareness of missing African-American children. One post on the site “Caylee Anthony is Not the Only Missing Florida Toddler, ” tells the story of little Zenyetta Ra, who is also missing from the Tampa area, about 84 miles from the last known sighting of Caylee. “Zenyetta Ra is also missing”, says the site, “However, you won’t see Nancy Grace talking about her. Not even the local news.”

    The website further exemplifies the bias by this statistic. A Google search on Caylee will garner about 600,000 results. “Can’t say the same for Zenyetta,” laments the website.

    Madeleine McCann is missing - still missing…
    Verder niet echt veel nieuws, we wachten af......
    Sukodinsdag 21 oktober 2008 @ 23:54
    Helleu Kahaarin. Die verklaringen in The Sun van een aantal Tapas-vrienden zijn best amusant eigenlijk. Zo ongeloofwaardig... The Sun knows, that readers/posters/bloggers knows otherwise and they printed anyway...Keep publish this sad stories from a bungling desperate group, let them dig their own grave...
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    En het zou zomaar kunnen dat wel degelijk economische belangen in Portugal een rol spelen, ook ik zei de gek vroeg me al eerder af waarom de Portugezen zich zo lieten inpakken, zie eerdere post.
    Freeport records and Maddie on the agenda of Portuguese and British authorities Een kleine stukje uit een interessant artikel op de site van Joana Morais: "While the "Maddie" case, as it is best known, concerns the disappearance of a three year-old girl and the protection given by the British authorities to her parents, namely by the direct interference of diplomacy and Gordon Brown's government, the Freeport's case concerns, according to the latest information, money transfers from accounts in the United Kingdom to Portuguese political personalities and raises questions regarding the construction of the commercial hypermarket of Alcochete."

    En recent (26 September 2008) op de BBC te zien een mega project wat betreft een zg wavefarm: World first for Wave Hub company "The company behind the planned Wave Hub off the Cornish coast has received international acclaim for the first commercial power station off Portugal." Economy boost It is believed to be the first commercial-scale wave power station in the world. The Pelamis machines will produce 2.25 megawatts at peak output, but the Portuguese government plans to expand the power station until it is producing 21 megawatts.

    The government gave the go-ahead last year, but tendering delays mean it is unlikely to be ready until 2010. Hoe zou dat komen.... Maar is toch nog goed gekomen....
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    Ook 'leuk' > Helping the McCanns? No way! - 24Horas Portugese detectives voelen er geen fluit voor om zich met de zaak Maddie bezig te houden, wat snippers:
    quote:
    "Mário Costa confirms. “If I had taken the case, I might have half a million euros in my bank account but I would be discredited due to accepting a case that I could not solve”, the detective explains."

    “If a daughter of mine disappeared I wouldn’t stop looking for her either” Aragão Correia, tells 24Horas, revealing that the searches that he participated in were “concerted” with Método 3, the Spanish detective agency that was hired by the McCanns. If Kate and Gerry came knocking on Mário Costa’s door, the answer would be a resounding “no”. “If the PJ, with all their people and means involved, didn’t get anywhere, how is a private detective going to solve the case? Only if he’s the king of sorcerers”, the detective says."
    Verderop in het artikel een vette snear naar father Pacheco:
    quote:
    "As far as 24Horas was able to establish with a judicial source, the document includes the statement of a witness who says that father Pacheco – who gave the church keys to the McCann couple so they could pray – was involved in crimes of sexual nature against minors. The priest, who was contacted by 24Horas, denies any such accusation. “That’s a scheme against the church. I have never been involved in any process that is related to such things. I only met the McCanns after the disappearance”, he defends himself.

    Barra da Costa criticizes the investigation and considers that many doubts remain unclear. During the investigation he raised controversy when he stated that the McCann couple practiced swing (switching couples). He was criticized, but throughout the many pages of the process, which is now relieved of judicial secrecy, there are questions made by PJ inspectors to the couple’s friends that have the purpose to clarify that issue. “The disappearance of a child must be seen as homicide, because it’s the most serious crime.”
    Even zelf opgezocht. Father Pacheco voelde zich wel bedrogen door de McCanns, alle steun gegeven, zelfs de sleutel van de kerk: "Father Pacheco appeared to virtually vanish from the public eye in the weeks after Gerry and Kate were made arguidos - or official suspects. The pair left Portugal without saying goodbye and handed the church keys to another clergyman." Daily Mail 18 oktober 2007
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    Meer details over de film met als leidraad het boek van Amaral The Truth Of The Lie: Maddie reaches the cinema - 24Horas Gonçalo Amaral’s book becomes a movie that will be broadcast by TVI Een paar stukjes:
    quote:
    The production is based on Amaral’s book, which has sold 180 000 copies in Portugal alone, but may also include “scenes that have never been reported before”. A source that is close to Amaral said to 24Horas that the former inspector “wrote about what was in the process or what could be corroborated”, but that there are conversations, phone calls and episodes that were witnessed by the former policeman which may be fundamental to “bring the truth about the Maddie case into the world”.

    The same source believes that the book and the film may expose new data and lead to the reopening of the process, which was archived and awaits “better evidence”. “He still has a policeman’s blood, he is still very aware of an education that prevents him from speaking. But now he has to do it in front of the cameras, in the name of a truth that he wants to see revealed”, the same source explains to 24Horas.

    Amaral is the movie’s narrator

    The retired PJ inspector, who will be present in almost every scene as the narrator, will defend, in the movie, the theory that renders the McCann couple responsible for Madeleine’s death and the concealment of her cadaver."
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    Tot slot nog een boeiend interview met Amaral, eerder op 17.10.2008, printed edition: The McCanns knew that I was going to catch them - TvGuia Ik haal er dit stukje uit. Amaral: "Believe me, I feel no rage, I’m not even angry. I have understood their game and you also know how this game works. The lies about me, the manipulation is not exactly against the citizen Gonçalo Amaral. They were against the investigator who knew their weaknesses and was going to catch them sooner or later. It was all a matter of time. The McCanns knew that I was going to get them. As you could see, all it took was for the process to be archived in order for everything to be finished. At this moment in time, I’m convinced that they don’t even remember my name anymore. So the game is always the same. We want to catch them, they want to escape, and that’s it. Sometimes the bandits win, sometimes the policemen do. This time around, and concerning this case, it was how it was. They stopped insulting me, they stopped the campaigns to find their daughter, it’s over. They got what they wanted and therefore, peace is back."
    Maar zegt verderop: Do you still believe? Amaral: "It’s too big and too serious a burden to be concealed by so many people for their entire lives."

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    >>> Only the UK-newspaper Metro wrote: "Friends of Madeleine McCann's parents who were with the couple on the night she died are to receive £375,000 in libel damages, it has been reported." A statement I believe.... <<<

    [ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 22-10-2008 09:07:57 (was bron vergeten) ]
    kahaarinwoensdag 22 oktober 2008 @ 14:04
    quote:
    Op dinsdag 21 oktober 2008 23:54 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Helleu Kahaarin. Die verklaringen in The Sun van een aantal Tapas-vrienden zijn best amusant eigenlijk. Zo ongeloofwaardig... The Sun knows, that readers/posters/bloggers knows otherwise and they printed anyway...Keep publish this sad stories from a bungling desperate group, let them dig their own grave...
    Goedemiddag Suko en de rest.
    Ja, net alsof ze met alle geweld zichzelf en hun gedrag moeten schoonpraten.
    quote:
    En het zou zomaar kunnen dat wel degelijk economische belangen in Portugal een rol spelen, ook ik zei de gek vroeg me al eerder af waarom de Portugezen zich zo lieten inpakken, zie eerdere post.
    Freeport records and Maddie on the agenda of Portuguese and British authorities Een kleine stukje uit een interessant artikel op de site van Joana Morais: "While the "Maddie" case, as it is best known, concerns the disappearance of a three year-old girl and the protection given by the British authorities to her parents, namely by the direct interference of diplomacy and Gordon Brown's government, the Freeport's case concerns, according to the latest information, money transfers from accounts in the United Kingdom to Portuguese political personalities and raises questions regarding the construction of the commercial hypermarket of Alcochete."
    Net wat we steeds al hebben gezegd, doofpot, smeergeld en vriendjespolitiek, we wachten af....
    quote:
    En recent (26 September 2008) op de BBC te zien een mega project wat betreft een zg wavefarm: World first for Wave Hub company "The company behind the planned Wave Hub off the Cornish coast has received international acclaim for the first commercial power station off Portugal." Economy boost It is believed to be the first commercial-scale wave power station in the world. The Pelamis machines will produce 2.25 megawatts at peak output, but the Portuguese government plans to expand the power station until it is producing 21 megawatts.

    The government gave the go-ahead last year, but tendering delays mean it is unlikely to be ready until 2010. Hoe zou dat komen.... Maar is toch nog goed gekomen....
    pffff, hoe langer hoe meer zoethoudertjes dus.... Inderdaad, hoe kan dan nou? Ik ben benieuwd of dit alles ook was gedaan als de McCanns waren aangeklaagd, ik bedoel, zelfs Gordon Brown heeft zich ermee bemoeid....
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    Ook 'leuk' > Helping the McCanns? No way! - 24Horas Portugese detectives voelen er geen fluit voor om zich met de zaak Maddie bezig te houden, wat snippers:
    Goh hoe verrassend, wat raar dat mensen die door het slijk worden gehaald en van een onderzoek worden verwijderd als men te dicht bij een aanklacht komt geen zin hebben om hun vingers er aan te branden, echt onvoorstelbaar.
    quote:
    Verderop in het artikel een vette snear naar father Pacheco:

    Even zelf opgezocht. Father Pacheco voelde zich wel bedrogen door de McCanns, alle steun gegeven, zelfs de sleutel van de kerk: "Father Pacheco appeared to virtually vanish from the public eye in the weeks after Gerry and Kate were made arguidos - or official suspects. The pair left Portugal without saying goodbye and handed the church keys to another clergyman." Daily Mail 18 oktober 2007
    Typisch, met modder gooien mag wel naar iedereen behalve de Tapas9, ondertussen is die priester wel voor het leven getekend door de uitlatingen die over hem zijn gedaan.....
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    Meer details over de film met als leidraad het boek van Amaral The Truth Of The Lie: Maddie reaches the cinema - 24Horas Gonçalo Amaral’s book becomes a movie that will be broadcast by TVI Een paar stukjes:
    Daar heb ik ook een artikel over gevonden, ik plaats hem even in zijn geheel, je weet maar nooit.
    quote:
    Ex-cop's book on Maddie to be a doco22:45 AEST Wed Oct 22 2008agoVIEWS: 0| FLOCKS: 0| 0 comments so farA book by a Portuguese detective who investigated the disappearance of British toddler Madeleine McCann will be adapted for a television documentary, according to its producers.

    Ex-detective Goncalo Amaral - who has sold 180,000 copies of "Maddie - The Truth of the Lie" - will narrate the documentary, which began filming this week in Algarve, the region where the girl went missing in May 2007.

    "This documentary, currently being filmed, is based on the book by the former judicial police inspector," Cristina Valente, a manager in the Portuguese production company Valentim de Carvalho, told AFP.

    Portuguese private television channel TVI has acquired the rights to the film.

    In his 214-page book, Amaral repeats accusations of involvement by Maddie's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, in their daughter's disappearance.

    Amaral, who was sacked from the investigation in October 2007 for criticising British police, reiterates his belief that Maddie died in a "tragic accident" in the apartment in which she was sleeping the night she disappeared.

    Portuguese authorities closed their investigation in July and lifted the "suspect" label from Maddie's parents due to lack of evidence.

    Madeleine McCann went missing on May 3, 2007, days before her fourth birthday, from a holiday flat in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz as her parents dined at a nearby restaurant.
    Er is tenslotte wel meer verdwenen....
    quote:
    Tot slot nog een boeiend interview met Amaral, eerder op 17.10.2008, printed edition: The McCanns knew that I was going to catch them - TvGuia Ik haal er dit stukje uit. Amaral: "Believe me, I feel no rage, I’m not even angry. I have understood their game and you also know how this game works. The lies about me, the manipulation is not exactly against the citizen Gonçalo Amaral. They were against the investigator who knew their weaknesses and was going to catch them sooner or later. It was all a matter of time. The McCanns knew that I was going to get them. As you could see, all it took was for the process to be archived in order for everything to be finished. At this moment in time, I’m convinced that they don’t even remember my name anymore. So the game is always the same. We want to catch them, they want to escape, and that’s it. Sometimes the bandits win, sometimes the policemen do. This time around, and concerning this case, it was how it was. They stopped insulting me, they stopped the campaigns to find their daughter, it’s over. They got what they wanted and therefore, peace is back."
    Maar zegt verderop: Do you still believe? Amaral: "It’s too big and too serious a burden to be concealed by so many people for their entire lives."
    Inderdaad, hopelijk zorgt de docu ervoor dat er meer mensen hun wenkbrauwen gaan optrekken en zich dingen af gaan vragen.
    Sukowoensdag 22 oktober 2008 @ 22:43
    Hoi Kahaarin en lurkers. Een juiste conclusie uit jouw artikel uit Australie: "Portuguese authorities closed their investigation in July and lifted the "suspect" label from Maddie's parents due to lack of evidence." Geen verklaring van onschuld maar wegen gebrek aan bewijs alwaar ik een cynische ondertoon in lees....terecht.
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    Ach ja, het zou idd zomaar kunnen dat economische belangen mede een rol hebben gespeeld in dit debacle. Een afweging van een arm land, nog groeiende na een dictatuur, afhankelijk van buitenlandse investeringen, toeristen en in dit geval is de UK een grote broer in de ontwikkeling voor van alles en nog wat. Tevens had Portugal de 'pech' vorig jaar het voorzitterschap van de EU te leiden tot eind 2008 en wat heeft het voeten in de aarde gehad, dat Gordon Brown de boel traineerde, met het ondertekenen van het Verdrag van Lissabon in december. Dit alles tegen het licht van een vermist mogelijk dode peuter, waaraan geeft men dan de voorkeur om mensen in en buiten Portugal tevreden te stellen en te houden. Het onderzoek had al zoveel geld gekost, het had al zoveel slur over zich heen gekregen, voeg daarbij de enorme tegenwerking van betrokkenen en hun thuisland...tja. Botsende belangen, Britten met zoveel te verbergen, en een doodarm land dat wel wil maar niet (verder) kan wegens (mogelijke dreiging) terugtrekking van allerlei mega-projecten en een inzakkende toeristenindustrie. Een duivels dilemma. Overigens zou het zomaar kunnen dat mocht Amaral of iemand anders iets boven water krijgen of dan alsnog de zaak heropend wordt, want het bovenstaande zal dan mogelijk nog steeds gelden, helaas.

    Amaral moet rondkrijgen waar er mag worden gefilmd. Het Mark Warner resort The Ocean Club geeft vooralsnog geen toestemming, slechte publiciteit voor de zaak, kan ik wel begrijpen ergens. "We've had enough. There is no doubt that the media exposure of this case has done nothing but harm to us", a member of staff at the Ocean Club told 24horas, referring that "at this time of the year, when there are school holidays in England, we used to have more reservations" at the resort. The same source says that this is not happening with other apartments. This means that the downturn is happening exclusively to that tourist resort."

    Robert Murat is ook gevraagd (via z'n advocaat, hij zelf is nu ff niet in Portugal) mee te doen maar waarschijnlijk niet, "Robert is not interested in reviving moments that were so hard for him". Het hele artikel is te lezen op de site van Joana Morais. You’re not entering the Ocean Club - 24Horas
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    Ik weet het niet helemaal wat betreft Tony Bennett, iig is z'n site klaar. He means well, maar controversieel...imo. Reacties hier te lezen. 'k Heb nog wel meer te melden maar ik teut alweer veuls te lang...

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    >>> Only the UK-newspaper Metro wrote: "Friends of Madeleine McCann's parents who were with the couple on the night she died are to receive £375,000 in libel damages, it has been reported." A statement I believe.... <<<
    Sukodonderdag 23 oktober 2008 @ 08:14
    Voor het internet-archief, en tevens een terug-lees-post om feitjes op te zoeken, want het boek is geschreven met gegevens zoals die bekend zijn en gepubliceerd in de verslagen van het onderzoek. Leest best vlot weg en ik zeg altijd maar zo, als ik 't kan lezen dan kunnen anderen dat ook....

    Hoofdpunten uit het boek The Truth Of The Lie van Gonçalo Amaral, voormalig leider van het politie-onderzoek.
    quote:
    Some extracts in English while the book it's not available in the UK

    A summary of the key points from 'Maddie, The Truth of the Lie'

    This summary obviously cannot cover every single point raised in the book but it covers most of the main points


    1 - Gonçalo Amaral starts by thanking family and friends, anonymous citizens who supported him and also cybernauts and bloggers who 'defended the cause of truth and justice'.

    2 - Very strange Mr Alipio Ribeiro's remark that making the McCanns arguidos was a hasty decision because he knew all along and agreed with the decision at the time.

    3 - The British police agreed with the PJ that Madeleine had died in apartment 5A and that there was a body that needed to be found. Later things seemed to change.

    4 - Making them arguidos was inevitable due to the non-incrimination principle. Certain questions could not be asked if they weren't arguidos. Even for their own protection.

    5 - Unusual, priviliged treatment for the couple is stressed.

    6 - The British police were working very closely with the PJ. They were in a room just next to the 'crisis room' the PJ worked in and were aware of everything that was going on.

    7 - The McCanns' routine is described. Madeleine, Sean and Amelie spend most of their time in the creche.

    8 - On the 1st of May, Madeleine cries for an hour and 15 minutes, between 10:30 and 11:45pm - and cries for daddy. She only stops when her parents get back home.

    9 - The next morning Madeleine questions her parents about not being there while she cried all that time.

    10 - When the first police officers arrived at the scene several people were inside the apartment. Gonçalo Amaral says that mistakes were made because the scene should have been recorded (pictures or footage) with the people who were there so important aspects like the way those people were dressed was recorded. The twins were sleeping and did not wake up with the commotion. And the bed sheets on the twins' cots were not there. First 72 hours are extremely important in these cases.

    11 - Contradiction regarding the checking times. Some say every 30 minutes, others say every 15 minutes. Gonçalo Amaral calls Glen Power for info on the whole group. Their history could be essential for the case.

    12 - Inspector Chief Tavares de Almeida forgets his holiday because of the case. All Portuguese forces were now aware of the crime as well as Interpol. Searches start. The apartment had been contaminated by friends of the couple, employees from the resort, GNR officers and their dogs and other unknown people. Was the contamination out of ignorance or was it on purpose?

    13 - Early in the morning, the searches continue. A crime scene team from Lisbon is on the way and the PJ starts to formally interview hundreds of people. The PJ asks British police for help regarding any British tourist present in the Algarve who may have a criminal record. Footage from hotels, banks, supermarkets, gas stations and highways are checked. Spain is alerted to pay attention to departures to Morocco. The harbours of Tarifa and Algeciras are checked through CCTV footage. Marinas in the Algarve are checked as well as their records of arrivals and departures.

    14 - The PJ checks all photos and footage from the Tapas 9. Clues could be found there. However, there are no photos or footage at night which might have been useful to help understand what happened that evening. Sexual offenders are checked to make sure they weren't around PDL at the time and the criminal history of PDL is also investigated. No signs of a break in, unlike the McCanns and Sky News reported. The PM (Public Ministry) is informed of the situation. In the document the case is treated like a "Kidnapping?". Mr Amaral said the document is in the files and that as early as the 4th of May there were questions, which explains the question mark after 'kidnapping'.

    15 - All possibilities were on the table. The abduction theory was good for the investigation, according to Mr Amaral because it allowed more means, manpower and tools to work with. It wasn't in the best interest of the investigation that the parents and friends were aware that they could be possible suspects. 12 hours after the disappearance a diplomat arrives in Portimao. He was not happy and he was heard to say that the PJ 'wasn't doing anything'.

    16 - Info from the British police is late, unlike what normally happens in other cases. No information on the couple, the friends or the children. It was important to be sure that Madeleine was their biological daughter. British Ambassador arrives. All this diplomacy is not normal according to Mr Amaral. 'Who are this couple?'. 'Who are these friends?'.

    17 - The searches go on. A helicopter is used and the OC employees are questioned. It's a battle against time because the following day /the 5th of May) is the day some of the potential witnesses are due to return to the UK. The press, Portuguese and British are already in PDL. Why was the press called in so quickly, apparently before the police?

    18 - The apartment is checked for finger and hand prints, hair, fibres, blood and other biological evidence. Mistakes were made and Amaral underlines the person on the outside without a full suit on. No signs of break in and no prints of other people other than the ones who were supposed to have been at the apartment. No glove marks found either. A hand-print is found and also fingerprints on the window from where Madeleine was taken according to her parents. The hand-print belonged to one of the first GNR officers who arrived at the scene.

    19 - The roadworks being done in the streets of PDL were checked by workmen, police officers and sniffer dogs. The Tapas are formally questioned in Portimão (it's still the morning of the 4th of May). First contradictions are detected. Jane Tanner 'saw' the abductor. Gerry and Jeremy were very close and did not see Jane or the abductor. The need for translation doesn't help because there is more time to think about what people should say. Kate and Gerry have no doubt that it is a kidnapping. Contradictions regarding the door and the window and shutters. (Open, closed, locked, unlocked, etc.)

    Checks:

    21h05: Gerry - all is well with the children.

    21h10/21h15: Jane Tanner - Sees alleged abductor carrying a child.

    21h30: Mathew Oldfield - enter the aprtment but not the bedroom and only sees the twins.

    22h00: Kate - finds Madeleine missing.

    20 - If the window was open why didn't Oldfield see it if at the time Jane Tanner had already seen the 'abductor'? Matthew says the door was slightly open. Kate states the door was completely open.

    21 - Kate mentions the 'abductor' mentioned by Jane but describes him in a completely different way. Jane said the man had light trousers and hair the lenghth of his neck. Kate says the abductor was wearing jeans and had long hair.

    22 - The description evolved. Now the abductor was 1.78 m tall, was wearing light trousers and a dark shirt and was carrying a child who seemed to be wearing pyjamas.

    23 - Jane's decription evolves again: it is now a dark skinned man, 35-40, thin, around 1.70m, very thick and dark hair neck length, linen trousers beige or gold, Duffy' type jacket but not as thick, classic black shoes, was rushing and was carrying a child in a strange way. By the way the man was dressed, Jane said he didn't look like a tourist. The child was apparently sleeping and she only saw the legs. The child had no shoes on. Cotton pyjamas, light colour, possibly white or pink and maybe flowers on it. Jane said she would recognise the man from behind and by the way he walked.

    24 - Jane said she didn't know what Madeleine was supposed to be wearing which surprised the police because 14 hours had passed and Gerry and Kate must have mentioned it, especially because Madeleine's description and clothes had been given to police officers, locals and tourists who were looking for the missing child.

    25 - There is footage of a girl looking like Madeline in one gas station. The parents are informed and Kate is asked to return to Portimão to see if it is Madeleine or not. Instead of being full of hope, Kate looks bored for being forced to return to Portimão and seems angry at the speed of the police car which startled police officers.

    26 - First press release on the case. Special authorisation has to be requested. Lots of info starts to arrive, especially info from 'psychics' and people who say they had visions and dreams about Madeleine. Although they aren't credible, they are checked everytime it's possible. Several sketches of Madeleine with different hair cuts and colour are done.

    27 - On the 4th of May the PJ stays in PDL past 10:00pm because they want to observe the lighting conditions and other details. The police find it surprising that Jane was able to see all those details because it was already quite dark and the visibility is not good. Where did the 'abductor' take Madeline? Was there a car? If there was, why wouldn't anyone see it if the car had to be driven towards the centre of PDL? The beach was the most likely destination to anyone who would not wish to be seen. Gerry stated he entered the apartment using the main entance and using his key. Why? If the back entrance was a lot closer and it was apparently unlocked? Kate and Gerry say the aductor did not enter the apartment from the back entrance because they could see it from the Tapas bar and would have spotted him. That is a lie. And this lie is most likely intended to state that Madeleine and her twin brother and sister were safe and that there was no neglect. They were obviously not safe or Madeleine wouldn't be missing.

    28 - Another strange aspect: The abductor enters through the door and leaves through the window carrying a child? Why not using the door again? It would be easier and it wouldn't be so suspicious. The police officers discuss their suspicions in the 'crisis' room. The pressure due to the media frenzy starts to kick in.

    29 - Several statements about people acting in a strange way are checked. Some can be discarded but at least one cannot be fully investigated because in the meanwhile those people returned to their countries of origin. However, in that case it was possible to identify the flight and no sign of Madeleine. A gipsy camping site is also checked as well as more than 400 apartments and houses in PDL.

    30 - The possibility of searching the Tapas groups apartments is discussed. The interest is to locate Madeleine's clothes, the ones which she was wearing that day to check them for evidence of violence, for instance. However, at this stage it is considered that treating the Tapas as suspects might not be good for the investigation. Mr Amaral considers this, at present, a mistake. But there was too much pressure to investigate the abduction scenario.

    31 - It seemed like it was forbidden to suspect the Tapas 7 or the parents. Diplomacy was always around. Publicly the case is treated as a kidnapping to avoid media speculation, although all possibilities are being investigated by the police and many question arise. The media frenzy gets bigger and bigger. The PJ has difficulties dealing with that. At the same time the preoccupation of the McCanns in dealing with the press is noticed.

    32 - The PJ keeps an eye on their public appearances. All info is being checked and the PJ starts working on the mobile phones info. No communications which arouse questions are detected, apart from Robert Murat who will later be made an arguido. The PJ check Kate and Gerry's phone records. Kate did not make any phone calls between the 27th April and the 4th of May which arouses suspicions. And hasn't received any between 11:22 on the 2nd of May and 23:17 of the 3rd. Gerry's phone has no record of calls before the 4th at 00:15. But there is a record on Kate's phone of a phone call from her husband on the 3rd May at 23:17. The same record doesn't exist on Gerry's phone. So the records were deleted. Why?

    33 - An unconfirmed piece of news arrives at the PJ. Apparently the British secret services had, after the (whatever) crime, tapped the Tapas phones. If that was true the info was never sent to the PJ which also thought about tapping them but who feared the reaction if it was found out and also the refusal of the judge because at the time there wasn't strong reasons to do it.

    34 - A bit of the life of the McCanns is described. Kate had a tiring life. Three children to take care of. Madeleine apparently wasn't an easy child. At the time of the holiday Kate was probably exhausted and had mentioned that before leaving for PDL she had a bad feeling/ an omen.

    35 - The police found it strange that the children spent so much time in the créche but after interviewing the nannies they were told it was not a general rule but it was quite common with holidaymakers.

    36 - Madeleine was at the créche the day she disappeared until 5:30pm. That was the last time anyone outside the group saw her. Madeleine was apparently very close to her dad and revealed an extreme love for her twin brother and sister.

    37 - During July and one of Gerry's visits to England, a British Police officer visited him at home. On the fridge there was a piece of paper with some of Madeleine's problems written on it. Madeleine apparently had problems sleeping and used to get up at night quite often. It is mentioned that Madeleine's grandfather admitted that the children were given something to help them sleep. Mr Amaral says this can explain why the twins did not wake up and that it also may have been the basis of Madeleine's tragic faith.

    38 - Madeleine's health records were really important and were asked for with insistence. However, they were not sent. Historically, in these types of siuations, apparently the UK is not very cooperative. And the secrecy between doctors and patients was also a setback. Her eye detail may be related to other health problems but without medical records it was not able to confirm this.

    39 - The 7th of May. Leicester police officers start to arrive. Later, Scotland Yard also cooperated. Several leads are pursued, 'suspects' found but discarded. Lots of Madeleine sightings. Lots of checking regarding Madeleine sighting. The Morocco saga starts. Mr Amaral talks about the photo of the little girl in Morocco who supposedly looked like Madeleine. Mr Amaral was informed and diligencies to confirm it were done. But Mr Amaral said that he stated it wasn't Madeleine.

    40 - The McCanns were at the time of the Morocco sighting already arguidos and both the British and the Portuguese police agreed that Madeleine was dead. However, something strange happened. The British police had shown the McCanns the photo before informing the PJ about its existence. Apparently a British police officer showed them the photo, asked them if it was Madeleine and the McCanns answered: 'It could be'. Gonçalo Amaral was surprised that they weren't sure. After all it was their daughter. We all know how this ended. The child and her mother were identified and it wasn't Madeleine.

    41 - 23rd of May: according to Mr Amaral the McCanns contacted Gordon Brown on that day and the PJ knew for sure that now this would be a political case, not a police one.

    42 - A man, apparently British who has an Asian background, spotted in a photo with Murat and also in a photo where Gerry is in a park with the children is investigated. Info is collected and the British police check him out and get an identification. He is discarded as not having anything to do with Madeleine and as being in the park with his own daughter and then helping in the searches like hundreds of other tourists. The photo of the man reached the British press. Mr Amaral says he has no idea how it got to the UK papers and why it was published.

    43 - One of the tourists told the PJ that he had heard Gerry McCann speaking on the phone and saying that there are paedophile rings operating in Portugal and that they took Madeleine. Mr Amaral says it's fantastic that after some hours the father of a missing child knows what happened to her with such certainty.

    44 - It was thought to do the reconstruction in May but that wasn't possible. The number of tourists, the number of journalists and the fact that the air space had to be closed (because of helicopters from the media) and the fact that it would make the public suspect the McCanns were being treated as suspects prevented it.

    45 - Mr Amaral thinks that the reconstruction should have been made even one year after and even with the parents only, who were the ones who couldn't refuse to come. He believes it would be helpful.

    46 - A Dutch guy contacts the McCanns saying he wants money in exchange for Madeleine/info about Madeleine's whereabouts. The police get involved (PJ, Leicester Police and Scotland Yard). The e-mail exchange continues. The guy wants two million and 500 thousand in advance. All are stressed. All but Gerry who was enjoying a lollipop, reading trivialities on the internet and discussing rugby and football with a British police officer, which surprised the Portuguese and the British police. The guy was arrested and only wanted money. He confessed he knew nothing about Madeleine.

    To explain Gerry's cold ways a British officer usually commented with his Portuguese counterparts: "Don't forget the guy starts cutting people in half after breakfast."

    47 - Several police officers from several police forces arrive as well as specialists in different areas and profilers. On the 14th of May Kate felt very offended with the liaison officers because they asked her where her daughter was. The McCann couple would not tolerate those questions and doubts. Those liaison officers' job was to make a bridge between the parents and the PJ and support the parents in any way they needed, However, it didn't last a week. After those questions the McCanns decided they did not need them anymore. No one could doubt those parents, let alone officers from their own country, writes Mr Amaral.

    48 - A Portuguese PJ officer leaves for the UK to help Leicester police triage info. Three Leicester police officers have a meeting in Portimão with Luís Neves, Guilhermino Encarnação and Gonçalo Amaral. The PJ is informed about the 'incident' between the McCanns and the liason officer(s). As time went by the PJ realised that the theory most pursued in Portugal (Madeleine's death) was not known by everyone in Leicester. A 'rookie' British police officer arrived in the Algarve and was wearing the 'Look for Madeleine' wristband. Portuguese PJ's commented that soon he would not be wearing it anymore, which happened as soon as he came into contact with the files.

    49 - Mr Amaral gets a phone call from his scared wife. Somebody had killed one of the family dogs, a Shitzu who had a serious head injury. Mr Amaral went home but was in a hurry because he needed to go back to work and didn't want his children to see the dog like that. He decided that he should bury the dog but the ground was too hard. So he decided to take the dog and put it in the trash bin. While doing so he couldn't help think how easy it was for someone to dispose of a dead body. Amaral's wife asks him to leave the investigation because she is scared. Mr Amaral tells his wife she is not being rational and that there are no reasons to be worried.

    50 - Murat's story. His villa drew attention because it was very close to the crime scene and because apparently the abductor was seen walking in that direction. Amaral decides to check and is surprised when a colleague tells him that Murat offered to translate at the scene if it was necessary, since he spoke both English and Portuguese. The police had to resort to volunteers due to the amount of tourists and employees (hundreds) that had to be spoken to, even if informally in the beginning. The PJ starts to check him out, especially after the British journalist's suspicion. The PJ decide that it will be better if they keep him close and continue to use him as a volunteer translator. Murat seems interested in everything regarding the investigation. He is said to consult internet sites of a sexual nature, but no more details are known. British profilers start working on him and seem interested.

    51 - Murat is watched. The rental of a car is investigated and the villa and cars are searched. Jane Tanner incriminates Murat. No signs of Madeleine. Murat's clothes and other objects are collected to be analysed.

    52 - Murat made an arguido, declines lawyer. Answers all questions. The question of the phone calls between Murat, Malinka and Michaela is investigated. Apparently the three met on the 2nd May because of the internet site.

    53 - Several suspicions arise regarding Murat, Michaela, Malinka and Luís António. They are all investigated. No signs of Madeleine anywhere. After a pseudo friend of Murat from teenage times incriminates him for bestiality and other stange behaviours British profilers say that there's a 90% chance that Murat is Madeleine's abductor. The 'pseudo friend' apparently has a long criminal record and the PJ was not very convinced by his statement.

    54 - Suddenly, on the 16th May, some friends of the McCanns remember seeing Murat on the scene that night close to the apartment. GNR officers said that they only saw him the next morning when he offered to translate. Rachel, Fiona, Russel and Murat are put face to face. The Tapas say Murat was there. Murat says they're lying. The Tapas say that they will come back to Portugal if needed.

    55 - The Smiths see a man carrying a child wearing pink or white pyjamas and no shoes. The child has got medium/long blonde hair. The man is between 30-35, is thin but fit and wears light trousers. Mr Smith contacts the Irish Police and tells them about that. He states the man is not Murat but the girl was most likely Madeleine.

    56 - The Payne incident, regarding sexual gestures, is described. The statement was given to the British police 13 days after Madeleine went missing but was only sent to the PJ by the end of October after Amaral left.

    Payne's visit to apartment 5A on the 3rd of May: Gerry said Payne stayed 30 minutes, Kate said it was 30 seconds. The reasons for the visit and number of visitors also have different versions. Yvone, with experience in children matters, gets to talk to the McCanns and asks several questions which annoy Kate who believes the police should be asking the questions not Yvone. Kate also says that a couple took her child and cries a lot. The McCanns refuse Yvone's help after contradicting themselves more.

    57 - The room seems too tidied up and too cold. Everything in the right place. No signs of an abductor who would have needed to use something to get out of the window. No footprints anywhere, nothing. Suspicions of an intentional modification of the crime scene. According to Kate, Cudle Cat was close to the pillow when she found Madeleine missing. The bed sheets of the twins' cots were not there.

    58 - The Tapas wrote two lists which are on the files with the times of the checking until the alarm was raised. Inconsistencies in those two lists also. As soon as the alarm is raised, everyone rushed and entered the apartment but Dianne Webster stays for some minutes.

    59 - The two different lists prove that the checking timelines were discussed. In order to escape the neglect accusations, the checking times were so close that they made the abduction virtually impossible. Mathew was supposed to have twice passed close to the window through which Madeleine had already been taken and yet fails to see the window wide open, although his mission was to check if everything was ok with the kids.

    60 - Both police forces discuss the huge amount of inconsistencies.

    61 - Jane also never mentioned the window completely opened.

    62 - How could Kate leave the twins alone again with a window supposedly open with an abductor close by?

    In the beginning of June, Kate starts taking about the possibility of Madeleine's death and about contacts made by psychics who claimed they knew where Madeleine's body was. Mr Amaral said that it almost seemed like Kate could soon say where Madeleine's body was even if in an indirect way.

    63 - The McCanns ask for Mr Krugel, the South African body-finder to come to PDL. Both police forces thought the idea was a bit ridiculous but didn't want to be accused of not doing everything. The couple would now admit that Madeleine could be dead unlike what they were publicly, and still are, claiming. The area where Krugel said Madeleine's body would be had already been searched by GNR and their dogs but it was searched again. Nothing was found.

    64 - Amaral describes a case he investigated where a 3-year old was beaten to death by her father. He describes what a police officer but also a father feels in such a situation and discusses the possible motive, generally speaking, which may lead people to hide a body.

    65 - Amaral also underlines the difficulty in investigating cases of missing people and cases with no body. The British specialist dogs are suggested and they come to PDL. As we all know, they detect death scent and blood.

    66 - Mark Harrison analyses the whole file, visits PDL on foot and in an helicopter and writes a report in which he states that Madeleine is most likely dead and her body most likely hidden in PDL. He also praises the PJ for all the work and efforts to try and find Madeleine alive but thinks it is now time to do different searches, the searches needed to find a body.

    67 - It was now time to investigate parents and friends in a more serious manner. The impressive record of Eddie and Keela is described.

    68 - The dogs are taken to apartment 5A and, as we know, detect death scent and blood, Around 10:00 pm Gerry is seen by the investigators driving around. Nothing was detected by the dogs in any of the other apartments. The history of apartment 5A was checked because another person could have died there before. No one did which was sadly revealing. The death scent dog was taken to the field. Nothing was found. The police were now sure the biggest mistake was not to tap the Tapas' phones and not to follow them closely. A judge refuses the request for the phones to be tapped. The villa where the McCanns were now staying was searched by the dogs. The dog detects death scent on Cuddle Cat.

    69 - Nothing is found in Murat's villa. But the garden is so badly dug that it is found the house was built on the top of an ancient roman village. The cars are checked. The dog only reacts on the car hired by the McCanns. After Amaral left the investigation, he came to know that a witness, a Portuguese woman, stated that in the days before the cars were checked the trunk of the car was left open which family explained was because of soiled nappies and beef fluid that was spilled in the car after they went shopping once

    70 - Mr Amaral tells us that the decision to send the blood and hair to FSS in the UK was because it was a renowned laboratory and because if they were analysed in Portugal or elsewhere, the PJ feared some would say the results had been messed with to incriminate the arguidos in case the results were clear. The most likely possibility is that Madeleine apparently died near the sofa.

    71 - Mr Amaral said that the assessment of the house showed two different realities. Kate seemed in mourning. Several pictures from Madeleine, rosaries, saints and a bible marked on Samuel's Book, Chapter 12, about the death of a child. Gerry's 'part' of the space was colder. Gerry seemed to have been reading The Interpretation of Crime from Jed Rubenfeld, Spirit Messenger by Gordon Smith and Will to Live by Lance Armstrong. Besides that, there were also several CEOP books which are only for police work, which startled Mark Harrison.

    72 - The first results start to arrive. The blood found in the car has a 50% match with Gerry coming, most likely, from an offspring. Then, one of the samples comes back as a weak match to Madeleine, in spite of all the markers in the sample being a match, many markers were missing. The second sample, however, had a 15 out of 19 marker match to Madeleine's DNA profile. Another preliminary report is sent that contradicts the first findings. For example, regarding the trunk sample there is, this time, no mention about the 15 components of Madeleine's DNA profile, like they never existed. Stuart Prior then calls FSS asking if they thought the Portuguese were idiots. He was heard saying that in the UK he had arrested people for less.

    73 - As for the hair, apparently nothing came of it. The PJ wanted to know if they came from a living person or a dead one. FSS said they could not answer that question. British officers suggested sending the hairs to other labs in Europe but FSS apparently didn't want to lose/ give the hairs back.

    The only fingerprints found on the window belonged to Kate. Because of the position of the hand it's more than likely that they got there when Kate opened that window, whenever that happened.

    74 - The time of the questioning of the McCanns is close and Stuart Prior seems nervous. The PJ also wished to re-question the whole group. Very little info on the McCanns arrives regarding their financial situation. According to UK authorities the McCanns have no credit card or ATM cards. However, the flights had been paid with credit cards so the PJ knew they had them.

    75 - Mr Amaral says that if the McCanns were in any way responsible for what happened to Madeleine then the fund would be a fraud. As the fund was set up in England it would have to be investigated by the British police.

    76 - The McCanns were informed about the re-questioning and that they would be made arguidos, even for their own protection. Kate replied asking what would her parents and the press think and say.

    77 - Kate's re-questioning was interrupted from 8pm till 10pm for all involved to rest and have dinner. As soon as she is made an arguida, Kate shuts up. Gerry is made an arguido, answers his questions and denies any involvment. The McCanns go back to England and when they arrive and go down the plane's steps Mr Smith in Ireland regonises Gerry as the man he had seen carrying a child on that night. He contacts the police but when his return to Portugal is being taken care of Mr Amaral is removed from the investigation. Afterwards, the next person in charge of the case decides that Mr Smith can be interviewed in his country through a rogatory letter. (This never happened).

    78 - Mr Amaral discusses the fact that he was removed from the case. Portual seemed to have succumbed to the pressure. The information on the McCanns and other Tapas never arrived. Amaral says that both police forces agreed on the path the investigation took but that after the McCanns left all British police officers left too. So, were they here to help with the invstigation or were they here because of the McCanns. Find the body and prove we did it is also mentioned as well as the McCanns need to discredit the dogs.

    Along the way Mr Amaral neighbour's house is broken into and some documents are stolen. The hasty answer to the journalist, which was used to remove him from the case is also mentioned. Amaral says that he knew immediately it had been a mistake but that he never knew how serious it would be because his words were greatly exagerated. Amaral is removed on his birthday and later he knows that Gordon Brown apparently called Stuart Prior to ask him if the man in charge of the investigation had really been removed.

    79 - May 2008. Amaral shares a meal with his colleague Tavares Rodrigues. The Madeleine case comes up and both comment on the fact that their case is all on the files and nothing can change that.

    CONCLUSIONS:

    - Madeleine McCanns died in aprtment 5A on May the 3rd 2007.

    - There was a simulation/fake of an abduction.

    - Kate and Gerry are suspects in the involvement of the disposal of their daughter's body.

    - Madeleine's death may have been caused by a tragic accident.

    - There is evidence of negligence regarding the guard and security of the children.

    Then, Amaral says they did the best they could and worked hard to find out the truth. The truth which is the only thing that really matters in a universe which makes the truth of the lie more and more common.

    Above summary courtesy of Nige at the McCannfiles
    by Joana Morais
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    A detailed look at the events that unfolded during the early days of August when the specialist British sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, arrived in Portugal. McCannfiles.

    [ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 23-10-2008 08:21:50 ]
    Sukodonderdag 23 oktober 2008 @ 11:55
    En als we bovenstaande hebben gelezen, de hoofdpunten uit Amaral's boek The Truth Of The lie, dan is dit artikel uit The Sun 'dubbele pret! '
    quote:
    Maddie's leech cop The Sun
    By ANTONELLA LAZZERI Published: Today (23 0ctober 2008)
    THE shamed cop who led the Madeleine McCann probe is cashing in AGAIN — with a TV film.

    Parents Kate and Gerry were "disgusted" last night after ex-police chief Goncalo Amaral was seen with a camera crew at the Algarve apartment where the three-year-old vanished.

    Portugal's Channel 3 confirmed he was making a documentary for them — after already coining it with a book about the case earlier this year. The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell fumed: "He seems determined to make as much as he can out of Madeleine. He should be ashamed."

    Amaral was kicked off the case after accusing doctors Kate and Gerry, both 40, of killing Madeleine, of Rothley, Leics. He repeated the slur in his book The Truth Of The Lie. The TV film will be screened on May 3 next year — the second anniversary of Maddie's disappearance.

    Mr Mitchell raged: "It's beyond bad taste." A local in Praia da Luz, where Maddie vanished, said of the TV film: "It's sick.
    Yeah, sick...come on, locals in Praia da Luz are all sick of the McCanns! Can't wait for the next article in The Sun...more free PR for Amaral, it's read like a comedy, thanks Clarence Mitchell. By the way CM, why not publish Amaral's book in the UK and then sue the man???? You and the McCanns/Tapas 7 have nothing to worry about, it's all lies you said....be brave....be brave.... Oh, and CM, why are you accepting salery/money from the Madeleine-fund, we all thought this was meant for the search of Madeleine, not for spreading funny stories...is it?!

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    >>> Only the UK-newspaper Metro wrote: "Friends of Madeleine McCann's parents who were with the couple on the night she died are to receive £375,000 in libel damages, it has been reported." A statement I believe.... <<<

    [ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Suko op 23-10-2008 12:32:53 (typo) ]
    Sukozondag 26 oktober 2008 @ 12:45
    all. Zo zo, voor mij valt Anorak vet door de mand:
    quote:
    Madeleine McCann: Noticing Tony Bennett, Madeleine’s Law And What Crime
    MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann

    SUNDAY PEOPLE: “McCanns fury over ‘neglect’”

    Missing Maddie McCann’s furious parents have vowed to sue a lawyer who suggests they are guilty of child neglect. Anthony Bennett, 61, is urging the Government to bring in a “Madeleine’s Law” making it a criminal offence to leave children under 12 on their own.

    Anthony Bennett has written to Anorak numerous times. Surely, if the McCanns sue him, they will give him the day in court he craves?

    Madeleine’s Law sounds like a unworkable project, something that has no chance of ever being approved let alone policed effectively.

    And who is Tony Bennet, the man who likes a cause celebre? Is he worth the McCanns’ bother? Say they do sue him and win. Then what? Is he a man of substance or a man of straw? Will it raise money for Our Maddie or deplete the family’s fund? Will it just make Bennett famous?

    His website attacks doctors Kate and Gerry McCann, both 41, over the disappearance of Maddie, now five, from their holiday flat in Portugal last year.

    Indeed it has. He is not without his supporters.

    McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “Our lawyers are watching him. They are constantly monitoring his claims, which we consider are libellous.”

    It all sounds not a little threatening. The McCanns are innocent but can they make it so no-one dares to raise an objection or a critical voice? What good can come of suing a man who says the McCanns failed their child? And haven’t the parents already blamed themselves for not taking enough care?

    A legal source close to the McCanns, of Rothley, Leics, said: “They are more than annoyed and deeply offended. They say enough is enough. All they are trying to do is get their daughter back.”

    But how do Bennett’s claims of neglect prevent the safe return to Madeleine McCann?

    Madeleine McCann is missing and after months of speculation and investigation, reader remain unsure what crime – if any – has been committed…
    Ik heb niet alle links in dit artikel geactiveerd, alleen de meest relevante. Absoluut belachelijk te stellen dat de McCanns onschulig zijn, zelfs de PJ verklaard dat er geen bewijs is voor ontvoering maar dat er geen bewijs is voor vervolging, dat is het enige, op elk moment kan het onderzoek worden geopend indien er nieuwe feiten worden gevonden. The former coordinator of the process, Gonçalo Amaral en schrijver van het boek The Truth Of The Lie heeft het voorafgaande onderzoek in het boek verwerkt en stelt dat Madeleine op 3 mei 2007 is gestorven, al of niet per ongeluk. Al eerder (van de week) stelde Anorak dat de McCanns onschuldig zijn.

    Ook ik heb mijn reserves tov Tony Bennett (zijn site), hoewel een ervaren politicus/advocaat, maar de McCanns geven ook vrij baan aan iedereen om dat stilzwijgen van de Britse pers te doorbreken. Zelfs een accurate weergave uit de PJ-files én de vrijgegeven inhoud van het onderzoek op dvd, wordt niet of geplaatst of verdraaid weergegeven. Om nog maar te zwijgen van de boycot om Amaral's boek in de UK uit te geven. Geen wonder dat mensen zelf initiatieven ondernemen om wat kwesties rondom de McCanns aan te pakken, in dit geval, neglect. Maar tot een wet zal het niet komen, te veel negatieve publiciteit voor de McCanns....

    We wegen allemaal nog de verklaring van buurvrouw Mrs. Fenn in Praia da Luz. Uit het eindrapport (zeer beknopt): PAMELA FENN lives on the first floor of the residential block, above the apartment occupied by the McCANN family. She related that, on 1 May 2007, two days before the disappearance, at about 22h30, she heard a child crying, which by the sound was MADELEINE. The child continued weeping for one hour and 15 minutes, until the parent’s arrival (she heard the door sounds), at about 23h45. This witness places in cause the allegation (by the parents) of the daily routine of visits every 30 minutes to check the children who had been left on their own."

    En dan hoef ik het verder niet te hebben over de tegenwerking van de McCanns/de Tapasvrienden e.d. wat betreft het onderzoek...zoeken naar Madeleine is nooit hun prioriteit geweest.
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    Mijn mening heb ik al genoeg gevenitileerd en ga mee in lijn zoals deze site, alhoewel heftig en misschien iets te stellig maar kan me wel vinden met deze opsommig:

    * Gerry said on airport bus that he wasn't there to enjoy himself
    * Speed and professionalism of the Fund/website being set up
    * 2006 seen on website when Maddie went missing in 2007
    * Naming Fund after a police forensic manual "No stone unturned"
    * John McCann gave up well-paid job despite having house, wife and kids to support
    * Trademark, marketing ploy
    * Twins left in unlocked apartment after Kate raised alarm
    * Twins left in creche during aftermath while they went fundraising
    * Smiling and smirking, no real tears
    * Whoever Madeleine's with she'll be giving them her tuppenceworth
    * Well it was our holiday too
    * Staged walks, jogging, globetrotting, not searching
    * Gerry planning events months ahead
    * No evidence of abduction
    * No jemmied window
    * Lies and inconsistencies, changing statements/stories
    * Tearing Maddie's book to write timeline before police arrived
    * Deleting text messages
    * Phoning Sky before phoning police
    * Gerry having presence of mind to update his Friends Reunited profile to remove babysitting reference
    * Washing Cuddlecat and using it as a prop for staged photoshoots then dumping it once back in the UK
    * Framing Robert Murat
    * The Wider Agenda flipchart
    * The excessive mileage on the hire car
    * Blood/marks on walls
    * Cadaver scent in apartment and car
    * David Payne and Gerry's alleged 'paedophilic' conversation reported to police by two doctors
    * David Payne's alleged 'bathtime' visits
    * Jon Corner's strange remark about Maddie's special quality and charisma
    * Ward of Court
    * Question 41: Is it true that in England you considered giving up Madeleine's guardianship
    * Claiming to be devout Catholics which was denied by Kate's mother
    * Sedatives mystery
    * Not requesting the re-opening of the case before the deadline on 20 September 2008.
    ===================
    Tot slot een interessante post van ex-copper Beachy, zo boos heb ik haar nog niet gezien. Het verschil van onderzoek inzake DNA-materiaal (gevonden haar in dit geval) tussen Caylee Anthony case en Madeleine McCann. "WHY IN HELL ISN'T THERE ANYTHING ANYWHERE - IN THE PJ REPORT, IN THE FSS REPORT, ANYWHERE TO INDICATE WHETHER THE HAIRS FOUND IN THE MCCANN'S HIRE CARE WERE CHECKED FOR SIGNS OF DECOMPOSITION?" Artikel hier en op het 3arguidoforum. Iemand verwees ook weer naar dat interview (vorige maand) met Gonçalo Amaral en de journo's Paulo Reis and Duarte Levy, iets wat ik ook zeer onthullend vond. "The little girl died in that apartment"
    ====================


    Deze foto hè, toen in Praia da Luz, één van de vele uitjes en maar poseren, ik blijf me verbazen, those griefing parents, en die toegevoegde tekst past er uitstekend bij. Bron

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    >>> Madeleine - DNA / Forensic Science Service <<<
    Sukozondag 2 november 2008 @ 12:09
    Lang niet gepost hier maar er valt ook weinig meer te melden. Voor zover ik heb gelezen is er (nog) geen aanleiding de zaak te heropenen, of nog beter...is Madeleine gevonden. Genoeg stukjes uit het eindrapport middels de vrijgegeven DVD's op fora geplaatst om vraagtekens bij te zetten maar echt hard maken? Dáár ontbreken te veel files voor die niet zijn vrijgegeven. Er is een boek uitgegeven, worden advocaten (in een andere zaakj) door de McCanns betaald om de gangen na te gaan van voormalig leider van het onderzoek Gonçalo Amaral etc etc. Allemaal interessant maar blijft wat gerommel in de marge cq fora/blogs vullen met zijwegen die vooralsnog niet echt tot iets leiden alhoewel sommige artikelen ten hemel schreiend zijn en vraag je je af, hoe is het mogelijk dat de McCanns & Co hiermee zijn weggekomen.

    Nog even de bronnen op een rijtje, met bekende en nieuwe sites:
  • http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/
  • http://justiceformaddie.blogspot.com/
  • http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=129
  • http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/
  • http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/
  • The 3 Arguidos
  • http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/?JavaScript=1&search=Madeleine
  • http://www.mccannfiles.com/id79.html
  • http://proud-of-the-pj.blogspot.com/
  • http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann
  • http://sosmaddie.dhblogs.be/ (kan met Google vertaald worden)
  • http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.com/
  • http://www.truthformadeleine.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=13

    A detailed look at the events that unfolded during the early days of August when the specialist British sniffer dogs, Eddie and Keela, arrived in Portugal. McCannfiles.

    Totdat er echt nieuws is....

    * Oja, het boek van Amaral 'The Trut of The Lie' is in een zeer slechte Google-vertaling in het Engels te lezen:
    GONCALO AMARAL-----BOOK 0N INTERNET NOW. 22 hoofdstukken. Ik hecht er geen waarde aan, een slechte vertaling kan zomaar het verhaal of feiten in een ander daglicht zetten.

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    >>> Kate and Gerry McCann - 'why would that be our fault?' <<<

    [ Bericht 4% gewijzigd door Suko op 02-11-2008 12:32:22 (tekst toegevoegd) ]
  • Sukozondag 16 november 2008 @ 12:09
    Het schijnt dat het boek The Truth About The Lie, geschreven door voormailg leider van het politieonderzoek Gonçalo Amaral, toch uitkomt in de UK. Heel opmerkelijk dat de Britse krant The Independent zelfs de man heeft geinterviewd.
    quote:
    Detective set to publish McCann book in Britain
    Portuguese officer who led the search for Madeleine says his account defends the honour of his team

    A controversial best-selling account of the hunt for Madeleine McCann by the Portuguese detective who led the investigation is expected to be published in the UK soon, according to its author.

    Speaking exclusively to The Independent on Sunday, Goncalo Amaral denied cashing in on the tragic disappearance of the three-year-old but said he was determined to restore his reputation, which "had been torn to shreds" by unfair and inaccurate media reports.

    The book, Maddie: The Truth about the Lie, has already sold an estimated 180,000 copies in Europe, and Mr Amaral's representatives are trying find a British publisher. The McCanns said last night that they would scrutinise any British publication with a view to possible legal action.

    Madeleine went missing on 3 May 2007, days before her fourth birthday, from a holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz as her parents dined at a nearby restaurant. In the Portuguese edition of his book, Mr Amaral says he believes she died in a "tragic accident" in the Mark Warner holiday flat where she was left to sleep the night she disappeared.

    Mr Amaral was removed from the investigation in October 2007 after criticising British police officers. Nine months later the Portuguese authorities closed the investigation and lifted the arguido [suspect] label from Madeleine's parents.

    The book's publisher, Mario Sena Lopes, said there was now an English version of Mr Amaral's book and he was negotiating a UK deal. He said several publishers were interested and he was confident the British public would soon be able to read the book.

    Mr Amaral said: "I received numerous messages of support and solidarity since being taken off the case, including from the UK – messages that also motivated me to tell people what I knew about the Maddie case. I am positive that there's also a section of the public eager to know the truth.

    "People can form their opinion without the manipulation that we have seen before."

    He said his only regret was failing to carry out a reconstruction of the events soon after Madeleine vanished but claims he was put under "serious pressure" not to. He insisted this was the only failure in a "perfect" text-book investigation.

    Asked whether he thought Madeleine was dead, he said: "It is not just my opinion. A whole team of Portuguese and British investigators came to that conclusion last year, and this is part of the files. I have never said the couple killed their daughter and this is not my belief. Deaths may happen for natural reasons, accident or intervention by a third party."

    He said he was unperturbed by the threat of any legal action from the McCann family. "There is no reason for that. The details exposed in the book are facts, happenings and objective data which figure in the process and not lies, as they have been described in the press."


    He denied he was profiting from the tragic case. "The biggest thing I achieved with this book was to defend my honour and that of those who worked with me. The way I see it, you cannot put a price on dignity. The other objective of the book is to contribute to the search for the truth."

    Mr Amaral added that he is now considering legal action against a number of British media outlets. The "excessive" publicity the case attracted was a "double-edged sword: on one hand it makes the disappearance known, but on the other hand it puts the life of the missing person in jeopardy," he insisted. "I demanded from my superiors, they stand up for the investigators faced with attacks by the media, but that never happened. This was one of the reasons that led me later on to hand in my resignation so I could regain my freedom of speech and write the book."

    Clarence Mitchell, a spokesman for the McCanns, said last night: "Lawyers for Kate and Gerry have been aware of what Mr Amaral has been alleging for some time. What he has said and written before now is grossly defamatory of them.

    "If he chooses to publish them in Britain those words will be studied intensely carefully and they will not hesitate to act if they are defamatory."
    Klaarblijkelijk heeft deze krant genoeg van al die stilte in de Britse pers en als er wat te melden viel dan werden alleen de praatjes van Clarence Mitchell, pr-man van de McCanns, gepubliceerd. Zoals bekend heeft Amaral de feiten uit het onderzoek in z'n boek beschreven, het zal een enorme negatieve publiciteit opleveren voor de McCanns en mogelijk gaat nu het tij keren. It is not over yet...

    Interessante artikelen:
  • McCanns accused of putting pressure on Tapas 7 to 'keep them silent'
  • Sky News apologises to Robert Murat over Madeleine McCann story
  • Maddie Case: McCanns had Access to PJ's Secret Investigation
  • Gonçalo Amaral is the visible target the McMafia's want to 'take down' for trying to find their neglected three year old daughter Madeleine (transscript van interview met o.a. journo Duarte Levy)

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    +++ The McCanns Did Not Physically Search for Madeleine +++ (57 sec uit een interview met BBC Jane Hill)
  • Harajuku.zondag 21 december 2008 @ 19:50
    quote:
    Het Britse echtpaar waarvan in 2007 een dochter in Portugal verdween, Kate en Gerry McCann, heeft opnieuw in de media aandacht gevraagd. Ze deden vandaag een emotioneel beroep voor de terugkeer van hun dochtertje Madeleine.

    Ze verspreidden daarvoor in Britse media een video-opname waar Madeleine op te zien en te horen is. Het is al de tweede kerst zonder haar, laat er geen derde komen, beklemtoonden de McCanns.

    Ze zijn er in 2007 verrassend goed in geslaagd de media wereldwijd in te schakelen nadat hun dochtertje tijdens een vakantie in Portugal was verdwenen. Maar het heeft niet mogen baten. Madeleine is nog steeds spoorloos. De Portugese politie heeft de zaak praktisch opgegeven. De politie heeft ook enige tijd onderzocht of de ouders van Madeleine zelf een actieve rol speelden bij de verdwijning van hun dochter, maar ook dat is op niets uitgelopen.
    Britse familie McCann weer in beeld
    Sukozondag 21 december 2008 @ 20:44
    Yep gezien en gelezen, ik hou me er al langere tijd niet zo erg meer mee bezig. Af en toe neem ik een duik in de links uit mijn laatste post. Er zijn dit jaar weer heleboel feiten bekend geworden die nogmaals aantonen wat een ongelofelijks leugenaars de McCanns en hun vrienden zijn.

    Overigens op de Frontpage ook een post geplaatst: Op hun site is de PayPal-button niet te missen en dat terwijl ze de backup hebben van Brian Kennedy, één van de rijkste mannen van de UK. Overigens zijn ze niet van plan ooit nog naar naar Portugal te gaan. Puntje nog, de ouders hebben die nacht zelf niet gezocht, zij en hun vrienden wilden niet meewerken aan de reconstructie > pastte niet in hun drukke schema. En Kate McCann moet nog een aantal vragen beantwoorden. Ook niet onbelangrijk, ze zijn niet in hoger in beroep gegaan qua eindconclusie van de Portugese Politie, met o.a. het feit dat er geen bewijzen zijn van een ontvoering, het onderzoek is gestopt overigens. Al die tijd hadden ze kritiek op het onderzoek maar uiteindelijk hebben ze kennelijk eieren voor hun geld gekozen. Ook hun eigen detectives zijn niet meer echt actief, ze houden zich nu alleen bezig met gemiste aanwijzingen van het publiek die in het eindrapport staan vermeld.

    "Leicester Mercury 15th December 2008

    The Parents of Madeleine McCann have scaled down the Portuguese search for their daughter to concentrate on sifting through the official police files into the disappearance.

    The couple are continuing to work with a small investigative team - including members with policing experience - to work through the pages of files handed over to them earlier this year."

    Zo, wat moet het publiek dan nog als ze zelf niet meer actief zoeken? (and we all know why...) O ja, geld doneren...

    Interessante link met meerdere in het Nederlands vertaalde artikelen van Tony Bennett, er ziiten daar zowaar ook Nederlandse posters!: De 30 grootste redenen om te twijfelen aan de verklaring van de dokters McCann betreffende de ontvoering. En van dezelfde poster, een bekend advovaat en voorheen parlements-lid Tony Bennett geeft is een boek verschenen: Solicitor claims Madeleine McCann book 'will stand up in court'. Alle mensen van belang (incl. de pers) in de UK hebben een exemplaar ontvangen, ook PM Gordon Brown. De McCanns zeggen het boek niet te willen lezen. Nah, jammer hoor!

    Nog steeds een zeer actief forum: http://www.the3arguidos.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=35
    Mr Tony Bennett's boek: http://madeleinefoundation.org/main/our-book/
    Duderinnetjemaandag 22 december 2008 @ 01:21
    Dat ze nu actief de aandacht vragen strookt toch niet met jullie theorie dat ze de boel het liefst onder het tapijt willen schoffelen, of wel?

    Ik vind het tamelijk verwarrend.
    Harajuku.maandag 22 december 2008 @ 01:23
    Levert toch niets op, zeker als de zaak (zo goed als?) gesloten is.

    Verder kan wat mij betreft iedereen het nog gedaan hebben
    Duderinnetjemaandag 22 december 2008 @ 01:29
    quote:
    Op maandag 22 december 2008 01:23 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
    Levert toch niets op, zeker als de zaak (zo goed als?) gesloten is.

    Verder kan wat mij betreft iedereen het nog gedaan hebben
    Wat levert toch niets op?
    Harajuku.maandag 22 december 2008 @ 01:32
    Aandacht vragen in de media. Nu ja, geld misschien, maar geen Maddie. Ik bedoel dus, als zij het wel gedaan hebben kun je mi best zo een oproep doen, zeker als de politie ed 't allemaal al hebben opgegeven, of bijna.

    Denk ik dan hè
    Duderinnetjemaandag 22 december 2008 @ 01:36
    quote:
    Op maandag 22 december 2008 01:32 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
    Aandacht vragen in de media. Nu ja, geld misschien, maar geen Maddie. Ik bedoel dus, als zij het wel gedaan hebben kun je mi best zo een oproep doen, zeker als de politie ed 't allemaal al hebben opgegeven, of bijna.

    Denk ik dan hè
    Maar dan vestig je toch opnieuw de aandacht op jezelf? Terwijl er wereldwijd al zoveel achterdocht is naar de ouders.
    RijstNatiemaandag 22 december 2008 @ 01:39
    ze zal wel geprostitueerd worden
    twister_rodriguezmaandag 22 december 2008 @ 01:42
    quote:
    Op zondag 19 oktober 2008 14:46 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
    [ afbeelding ]

    Lol, weet je waar hij op lijkt?

    [ afbeelding ]

    OMG Tim "The Toolman" Taylor did it......

    [ afbeelding ]

    Het gaat om een man die aan het werk was in de omgeving en hij droeg mogelijk een blauw drukknoopjesshirt..... The plot thickens......
    LOL
    Sukomaandag 22 december 2008 @ 11:03
    Vanaf het begin is geld en fame dé motor geweest. Deze uitspraak van Gerry McCann is veelzeggend: "Although initially reluctant, the McCanns finally informed the media of Madeleine’s unique right eye—a risky revelation. Whoever had taken the child now held a universally recognizable little girl. Gerry understood that. But, he says, the iris “is Madeleine’s only true distinctive feature. Certainly we thought it was possible that this could potentially hurt her or”—he grimaces—“her abductor might do something to her eye.… But in terms of marketing, it was a good ploy.” Vanity Fair Gepubliceerd January 10, 2008, maar het interview werd afgenomen eind september 2007 Iets waar ze achteraf niet zo blij mee waren. Bron De Portugese Politie had vanaf het begin de nadruk op dit 'oogmerk' ten stelligste afgeraden, het zou een zekere doodvonnis voor Madeleine betekenen.

    En verder is het natuurlijk te gek voor worden dat ze dit filmpje niet eerder hebben laten zien, met de stem van Madeleine. Waarom zowat 20 maanden later, of vorig jaar kerst niet uitgezonden? Je zou toch denken dat als ze zo wanhopig zijn ze zoveel mogelijk materiaal naar buiten brengen? Het kind ziet er nu heel anders uit. Ook hier kan een strategie achter zitten. Met hapjes Madeleine in beeld houden, met mogelijk de wetenschap dat ze nooit gevonden zal worden.

    Waarom staat die donatie-button groter dan ooit zo prominent op hun site? Geld vragen om te zoeken naar Madeleine, terwijl ze zelf niet meer actief daar mee bezig zijn, en alleen mensen bedreigen die ook maar iets negatiefs over hun melden. Als je ook nog naderhand verneemt dat ze eerder Madeleine niet zelf meer wilden opvoeden maar bij familie dat krab je wel achter je oren.

    En nogmaals: "Overigens is Brian Kennedy van plan de McCanns voor het leven te ondersteunen: "According to the British media, the multimillionaire Brian Kennedy is ready to finance Kate and Gerry McCann for the rest of his life, putting at the couple's disposal the entirety of his personal fortune, estimated at more than £450 million." Bron

    Brian Kennedy, heeft ook zitting in hun fonds, heeft ook actief getuigen bezocht (iets wat tijdens politieonderzoek verboden is), die na zijn bezoekje met niemand meer wilden praten en vooral niet met de Porugese politie....Maar ooit zal de waarheid naar buiten komen, vroeger of later.
    Harajuku.zaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 14:54
    Centraal
    livelinkzaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 15:53
    Zou 2009 dan het jaar worden, waarin de waarheid rondom de verdwijining van Madeleine boven tafel komt? Het jaar waarin misschien eindelijk recht aan Madeleine wordt gedaan? Ik hoop het, maar ik verwacht het eigenlijk niet meer
    Frasierzaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 15:57
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 15:53 schreef livelink het volgende:
    Zou 2009 dan het jaar worden, waarin de waarheid rondom de verdwijining van Madeleine boven tafel komt? Het jaar waarin misschien eindelijk recht aan Madeleine wordt gedaan? Ik hoop het, maar ik verwacht het eigenlijk niet meer
    Ach, er worden zoveel kinderen vermist
    Harajuku.zaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 15:58
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 15:57 schreef Frasier het volgende:

    [..]

    Ach, er worden zoveel kinderen vermist
    Maar hier gaat het over Madeleine
    Frasierzaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 15:59
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 15:58 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:

    [..]

    Maar hier gaat het over Madeleine
    Is dat kind nog steeds niet terecht dan?
    Harajuku.zaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 16:00
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 15:59 schreef Frasier het volgende:

    [..]

    Is dat kind nog steeds niet terecht dan?
    Nee.
    Frasierzaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 16:01
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 16:00 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:

    [..]

    Nee.
    Jammer. Maar vraag me nog steeds af, waarom is dat kind zo speciaal? Vanwaar al die aandacht?
    Harajuku.zaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 16:02
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 16:01 schreef Frasier het volgende:

    [..]

    Jammer. Maar vraag me nog steeds af, waarom is dat kind zo speciaal? Vanwaar al die aandacht?
    Zo dom ben je vast niet.
    Frasierzaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 16:05
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 16:02 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:

    [..]

    Zo dom ben je vast niet.
    Dat betwijfel ik
    livelinkzaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 16:47
    Ach, wat mij betreft kan ik je vraag wel beantwoorden. Madeleine als kind is voor mij niet specialer dan de rest van alle kinderen, maar de zaak vind ik wel speciaal. Het rare gedrag van de ouders, de verdenkingen die rond de ouders hangen, het gevoel dat je telkens dicht bij de ontknoping bent, maar dan weer net zo ver weg blijkt te zijn. Voor mij hetzelfde als de zaak van Nathalie Holloway, het laat me om een of andere reden niet los.
    Sukozaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 20:29
    Vermoedelijk zal Madeleine wel nooit worden gevonden. Diverse theorieën zijn daarover geopperd. Bij voorbeeld dat het stoffelijk overschot diezelfde nacht per privé-vliegtuig uit Portugal is gevlogen, of dat ze is ergens 'koud' is bewaard (Gonçalo Amaral: Cadaver was frozen or kept in the cold) en later is 'kwijt gemaakt', en mogelijk in het vlak over de grens gelegen Huevla denken anderen.

    Voormalig politieleider van het onderzoek Gonçalo Amaral stelt verder dat Madeleine niet door haar ouders is vermoord maar dat ze dood door hen gevonden. Bron Madeleine is achter de sofa gevallen (daar zijn eveneens bloedsporen gevonden) die stond voor het raam. Bewezen is dat er meubels zijn verschoven. De gedachte is dat ze stemmen buiten hoorde en wilde kijken of haar ouders dat waren. Ze kan wat duizelig zijn geweest, misschien door Calpol of anderszins, het was bekend dat ze slecht sliep. Grootmoeder Healy heeft wel eens ontvallen dat ze af en toe Valium kreeg toegediend. De Portugese politie wilde haarmonsters van de tweeling hebben, werd niet aan voldaan, pas bijna een half jaar later hebben de ouders stukjes afgeknipt, onderzocht door een nog steeds onbekend lab en natuurlijk niets gevonden.

    Zoals eerder gepost, er is geen enkele medewerking geweest van de ouders en hun vakantievrienden. Wát ze hebben verteld klopt onderling van geen kanten. Tijdens het onderzoek mochten ze niks vertellen op straffe van een arrestatie, behalve dan het besmeuren van de Portugese politie, maar toen eenmaal de status van verdachte van de McCanns was opgeheven wilde nog steeds niemand ook maar iets kwijt. Tot op de dag vandaag is het een Pact of Silence.

    Opvallend is ook hoeveel connecties/vrienden ze in de UK hebben met mensen die er toedoen, dat is erg handig gebleken, maar dan is het toch vreemd dat de UK-pers niets negatiefs over dit gebeuren publiceerde en nog steeds. Zeker op blogs en fora wordt daarover heftig gedissuseerd, zijn er meerdere belangen in het geding, wat moet er ten alle tijden verborgen blijven? PM Gordon Brown is vanaf het begin bij deze kwestie betrokken, Gerry McCann is bevriend met zijn broer, kan zijn dat dit een grote fout is gebleken maar je steun terugtrekken lijkt niet meer te kunnen, dat zou maar verdacht zijn. Dan maar het onderzoek traineren, er staan immers grote economische belangen op het spel (iets wat ik eerder heb gepost, het doodarme Portugal, wat veelal afhankelijk is van toerisme, kan zich niks permitteren, het was al zo beschadigd door de McCanns zelf en de UK-pers, er werd massaal afgeraden naar Portugal te gaan.

    Anyway, zelfs de Ierse The Herald vraagt zich af waarom nu pas tijdens deze kerst, de video is te zien waarin Madeleine's stem is te horen: "It seems strange that they’ve left it so long to release this footage. After all, maybe someone could have recognised her from the sound of her voice?"

    Bovendien zou een celebrity of een bekend Sportfiguur meewerken aan deze kerstoproep: "Mr Mithcell said Christmas would be a private affair for the McCanns this year. There are, however, plans to issue a worldwide television appeal to jog people's minds over the festive season. An as yet unnamed sports person or celebrity is understood to be lined up for the appeal." Bron en The Telegraph

    Niets van gezien, zeker niemand kunnen vinden die zijn/haar handen wil branden, want neglect is hier zeker aan de hand. Wel zijn de McCanns bezig met kettingbrieven, en kan men posters van Madeleine downloaden, om overal op te hangen, zoals op hun site is te lezen. Ook dit: "Reassuringly, we know that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Madeleine has been seriously harmed (and this has been further confirmed after studying the recently released Portuguese police files). In light of this, we passionately believe that there is a very strong likelihood that Madeleine is out there and can be found." Dus hou Madeleine levend, alleen dat levert geld op natuurlijk...
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 15:53 schreef livelink het volgende:
    Zou 2009 dan het jaar worden, waarin de waarheid rondom de verdwijining van Madeleine boven tafel komt? Het jaar waarin misschien eindelijk recht aan Madeleine wordt gedaan? Ik hoop het, maar ik verwacht het eigenlijk niet meer
    Dat vindt Gonçalo Amaral ook, citaat: "In this Christmas season, after the reminiscences, a wish jumps to mind: that [Lady] Justice removes the blindfold, that politicians do not hide behind obscure interests and give these children the only thing that we can still give them: Justice." Bron
    Harajuku.zaterdag 27 december 2008 @ 20:36
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 16:47 schreef livelink het volgende:
    Ach, wat mij betreft kan ik je vraag wel beantwoorden. Madeleine als kind is voor mij niet specialer dan de rest van alle kinderen, maar de zaak vind ik wel speciaal. Het rare gedrag van de ouders, de verdenkingen die rond de ouders hangen, het gevoel dat je telkens dicht bij de ontknoping bent, maar dan weer net zo ver weg blijkt te zijn. Voor mij hetzelfde als de zaak van Nathalie Holloway, het laat me om een of andere reden niet los.
    Bij dit geval was het natuurlijk ook zo dat ze gelijk de tv erbij gehaald hebben hè, andere ouders hadden die opties niet. Wat dat betreft had het ook Piet uit Assen kunnen zijn geweest, maar nu is het Maddie
    yyentlezaterdag 28 februari 2009 @ 21:22
    quote:
    Op zaterdag 27 december 2008 20:29 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Vermoedelijk zal Madeleine wel nooit worden gevonden. Diverse theorieën zijn daarover geopperd. Bij voorbeeld dat het stoffelijk overschot diezelfde nacht per privé-vliegtuig uit Portugal is gevlogen, of dat ze is ergens 'koud' is bewaard (Gonçalo Amaral: Cadaver was frozen or kept in the cold) en later is 'kwijt gemaakt', en mogelijk in het vlak over de grens gelegen Huevla denken anderen.

    Voormalig politieleider van het onderzoek Gonçalo Amaral stelt verder dat Madeleine niet door haar ouders is vermoord maar dat ze dood door hen gevonden. Bron Madeleine is achter de sofa gevallen (daar zijn eveneens bloedsporen gevonden) die stond voor het raam. Bewezen is dat er meubels zijn verschoven. De gedachte is dat ze stemmen buiten hoorde en wilde kijken of haar ouders dat waren. Ze kan wat duizelig zijn geweest, misschien door Calpol of anderszins, het was bekend dat ze slecht sliep. Grootmoeder Healy heeft wel eens ontvallen dat ze af en toe Valium kreeg toegediend. De Portugese politie wilde haarmonsters van de tweeling hebben, werd niet aan voldaan, pas bijna een half jaar later hebben de ouders stukjes afgeknipt, onderzocht door een nog steeds onbekend lab en natuurlijk niets gevonden.

    Zoals eerder gepost, er is geen enkele medewerking geweest van de ouders en hun vakantievrienden. Wát ze hebben verteld klopt onderling van geen kanten. Tijdens het onderzoek mochten ze niks vertellen op straffe van een arrestatie, behalve dan het besmeuren van de Portugese politie, maar toen eenmaal de status van verdachte van de McCanns was opgeheven wilde nog steeds niemand ook maar iets kwijt. Tot op de dag vandaag is het een Pact of Silence.

    Opvallend is ook hoeveel connecties/vrienden ze in de UK hebben met mensen die er toedoen, dat is erg handig gebleken, maar dan is het toch vreemd dat de UK-pers niets negatiefs over dit gebeuren publiceerde en nog steeds. Zeker op blogs en fora wordt daarover heftig gedissuseerd, zijn er meerdere belangen in het geding, wat moet er ten alle tijden verborgen blijven? PM Gordon Brown is vanaf het begin bij deze kwestie betrokken, Gerry McCann is bevriend met zijn broer, kan zijn dat dit een grote fout is gebleken maar je steun terugtrekken lijkt niet meer te kunnen, dat zou maar verdacht zijn. Dan maar het onderzoek traineren, er staan immers grote economische belangen op het spel (iets wat ik eerder heb gepost, het doodarme Portugal, wat veelal afhankelijk is van toerisme, kan zich niks permitteren, het was al zo beschadigd door de McCanns zelf en de UK-pers, er werd massaal afgeraden naar Portugal te gaan.

    Anyway, zelfs de Ierse The Herald vraagt zich af waarom nu pas tijdens deze kerst, de video is te zien waarin Madeleine's stem is te horen: "It seems strange that they’ve left it so long to release this footage. After all, maybe someone could have recognised her from the sound of her voice?"

    Bovendien zou een celebrity of een bekend Sportfiguur meewerken aan deze kerstoproep: "Mr Mithcell said Christmas would be a private affair for the McCanns this year. There are, however, plans to issue a worldwide television appeal to jog people's minds over the festive season. An as yet unnamed sports person or celebrity is understood to be lined up for the appeal." Bron en The Telegraph

    Niets van gezien, zeker niemand kunnen vinden die zijn/haar handen wil branden, want neglect is hier zeker aan de hand. Wel zijn de McCanns bezig met kettingbrieven, en kan men posters van Madeleine downloaden, om overal op te hangen, zoals op hun site is te lezen. Ook dit: "Reassuringly, we know that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Madeleine has been seriously harmed (and this has been further confirmed after studying the recently released Portuguese police files). In light of this, we passionately believe that there is a very strong likelihood that Madeleine is out there and can be found." Dus hou Madeleine levend, alleen dat levert geld op natuurlijk...
    [..]

    Dat vindt Gonçalo Amaral ook, citaat: "In this Christmas season, after the reminiscences, a wish jumps to mind: that [Lady] Justice removes the blindfold, that politicians do not hide behind obscure interests and give these children the only thing that we can still give them: Justice." Bron
    quote:
    Maddie, G. Amaral, de waarheid achter de leugen

    De Britse peuter Madeleine McCann verdween in mei 2007 tijdens een vakantie in Portugal. Ze werd slapend in een vakantiehuisje achtergelaten, terwijl haar ouders gingen eten in een nabijgelegen restaurant. Bij terugkomst was Maddie verdwenen - aldus de ouders.De Britse en Portugese politie draaiden overuren om de zaak op te lossen, maar tot op heden is dat niet gebeurd. Gonçalo Amaral was als hoofdinspecteur nauw betrokken bij de zaak; hij doet in zijn boek een aantal controversiële uitspraken.Maddie biedt een directe inkijk in de zaak, die meer dan een jaar na dato nog altijd sterke emoties en geschokte reacties oproept.- Madeleine McCann stierf in appartement 5A en niet daarbuiten- Madeleines ontvoering is verzonnen en het lichaam is weggewerkt- Het is terecht dat Kate en Gerry, de ouders van Madeleine, als mogelijke verdachten zijn beschouwd

    Verwachte verschijningsdatum: april 2009
    http://www.crimebooks.nl/?gclid=CI6On9eDgJkCFUM-3godJnaynA#803X0
    kahaarindinsdag 10 maart 2009 @ 13:35
    Hallo allemaal, lang geleden dat ik gereageerd heb maar *BREAKING NEWS* ze gaan weer zeuren om geld:
    quote:

    Gerry McCann (L) and motorsport boss Max Mosley who will both give evidence to MPs today about their treatment by the media Photo:

    Gerry McCann and Mr Mosley have been invited to answer questions from members of the Culture, Media and Sport Committee.

    Their evidence will form part of an ongoing inquiry into press standards, privacy and libel.

    Mr McCann will be joined by his spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, and his lawyer Adam Tudor, a partner in leading libel firm Carter-Ruck.

    The MPs are expected to ask Mr McCann, 40, why he and his wife Kate, 41, chose to sue a number of British newspapers for defamation instead of going through regulatory body the Press Complaints Commission.

    In March last year Express Newspapers agreed to pay the couple £550,000 in libel damages over false allegations that they were responsible for their daughter's death.

    Madeleine was nearly four when she went missing from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, southern Portugal, on May 3, 2007, while her parents dined with friends nearby.

    Despite a massive police operation and huge publicity worldwide, she has not been found.

    Mr Mosley, 68, president of motorsport governing body the FIA, won £60,000 in privacy damages against the News of the World last year over a story claiming he took part in a "sick Nazi orgy".

    He has announced plans to challenge the UK's privacy laws in the European Court of Human Rights to require British newspapers to notify people before publishing private information about them.

    Mr Mosley will give evidence to the committee on Tuesday morning, followed by Mr McCann in the afternoon.
    Rondje anorak is ook wel geinig.

    * kahaarin *Weer onder steen kruipt*
    Sukodinsdag 10 maart 2009 @ 15:11
    Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Kahaarin, da's leuk je weer hier te zien! Ik volg het eigenlijk niet meer, het gaat nog steeds nergens over. Althans, niet over het persoontje in kwestie, Madeleine McCann. Ze hebben het over juridische zaken, laster, geld, vrijheid van meningsuiting, allemaal belangrijk, echt. Maar ondertussen is voornamelijk de politieke wil niet aanwezig, van beide kanten eigenlijk niet, om ook maar iets te ondernemen. Te veel belangen, reputaties etc etc zijn er mee gemoeid. Heel af en toe neem ik een hapje op http://www.mccannfiles.com/id79.html en http://24.102.46.252/forum/viewforum.php?f=35&sid=bcd5b1c1955eceb7ad67bb4684ff846a maar ik lees zelden iets wat perspectief biedt.

    @ yyentle, iig is dat boek van Amaral iets opgeschoond door de man zelf, wegens mogelijke rechtszaken, althans de uitgave voor de UK, dus of de versie die hier uitkomt nog origineel is?
    kahaarinmaandag 16 maart 2009 @ 17:11
    Hey Suko. Het laatste nieuws: Het is allemaal de schuld van de pers, je kind achterlaten in een appartement samen met haar broertje en zusje om te gaan feesten had daar niets mee te maken.
    quote:
    Madeleine search 'hampered' by media

    The father of missing Madeleine McCann has told MPs that sensationalist news reports might have damaged the chances of him ever finding his daughter.
    At a meeting yesterday, Gerry McCann told politicians that the "most damning thing of all" was newspapers' claims there was a host of evidence that suggested the little girl was dead.
    The Rothley father-of-three said: "There is no evidence to suggest she's been seriously harmed."
    Mr McCann said elements of the media had been helpful in the search for his daughter, particularly in the distribution of her image.
    But he added: "If you say a missing child is dead and people believe she is dead, without due evidence, then people will stop looking."
    Madeleine, who would now be five, went missing on May 3, 2007, from her family's apartment in the resort of Praia Da Luz, Portugal.
    Her father was giving evidence to a Parliamentary inquiry into press standards being run by the Commons Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee.
    He told members that he believed the person who had taken his daughter might have been given an advantage over police after details of the investigation were revealed in the Press.
    Mr McCann said: "There's information related to a crime that you don't want to be made public.
    "Only the witnesses that were there will know that information.
    "It concerned me greatly that elements of the timeline were becoming increasingly apparent through leaks and a desire to have every single bit of information known."
    Mr McCann described how, at the start of his family's ordeal, the media had seemed friendly, but he and wife Kate soon realised that much of the coverage was becoming speculative.
    He said when the couple were given "arguido" status – essentially being made suspects by Portuguese police – some journalists treated the situation as a "free for all".
    Mr McCann said the media became much more interested in him and Kate than in the search for Madeleine.
    But he also said he still needed the Press to help find his daughter when there was "information that is relevant and may assist with the search".
    Wie hebben er ook alweer bekend gemaakt dat ze zo'n speciale vlek in haar oog heeft? Wie hebben er geen/valse verklaringen afgelegd? Wie wilden niet meedoen aan een reconstructie als dat crime watch programma niet mocht filmen? Wie wilden er niet naar PDL terug als er niet werd gegarandeerd dat ze niet werden gearresteerd? Wie hebben er te pas en te onpas statements afgelegd in de pers en dingen over het onderzoek naar buiten gebracht? Wie hebben er lopen zeuren over de Portugese rechercheurs? Dat heeft er natuurlijk allemaal niets mee te maken, de pers heeft haar doodverklaard en daarom is ze niet gevonden.


    Reminder.....

    http://www.thisisleiceste(...)-detail/article.html
    Sukomaandag 16 maart 2009 @ 20:16
    Ach ja Kahaarin, hoi trouwens , daarbij vergetend dat ze zelf de media waarschuwde als ze weer op pad gingen in Praia da Luz, zelfs als ze gingen wandelen! Ook nog maar vergetend hoe ze via diezelfde media Robert Murat volledig de grond in hebben geboord en wiens leven, ondanks de rehabitiatie, nog steeds op z'n kop staat, maar geen excusues van de McCanns & co aan Murat, nada. In de Daily Mail stond nog een aardig commentaartje van Jan Moir:

    "This week, Mr McCann took the opportunity to air his grievances about the Press and its treatment of his family in front of the House of Commons Culture Select Committee.

    For what possible purpose? Certainly, some bad judgment decisions were made by the more excitable newspapers, who have been punished with hefty libel payments and widespread approbation for their troubles. Surely that is an end to the matter?

    No. Mr McCann is not finished complaining. Yet the more and more he complains about what happened in the aftermath of his daughter's disappearance, the more I feel he is attempting to assuage his own guilt for failing to be there when she needed him most.


    Still, it's not his fault that these useless Select Committees, stuffed with the third rate and the Parliamentary walking wounded, give an indulgent platform for anyone with a grievance."

    Dat is zo ongeveer het scherpst wat je mag/kan verwachten van de Britse pers, zelfs die doorvragerd van de BBC, Jeremy Paxman is de bek gesnoerd, zoals is te zien in dit deel van een interviewtje, ook tijdens dat persgebeuren: Gerry McCann talks to Jeremy Paxman : A Flimsy and Snipped Interview

    Maar ik ben er klaar mee, hoe minder die lui in het nieuws komen hoe beter, Madeleine is niet meer, dat is voor mij en vele anderen klontje klaar, ondanks dat er geen aanklachten zijn, de zaak ook ogenschijnlijk stil ligt, reputaties van de McCanns en hun vrienden zijn niet geheel zuiver meer, er kleeft iets aan hen en misschien, ooit...gaan er mensen praten, in de regel blijft zoiets niet binnenskamers.
    kahaarindinsdag 17 maart 2009 @ 14:12
    quote:
    Dat is zo ongeveer het scherpst wat je mag/kan verwachten van de Britse pers, zelfs die doorvragerd van de BBC, Jeremy Paxman is de bek gesnoerd, zoals is te zien in dit deel van een interviewtje, ook tijdens dat persgebeuren: Gerry McCann talks to Jeremy Paxman : A Flimsy and Snipped Interview

    Maar ik ben er klaar mee, hoe minder die lui in het nieuws komen hoe beter, Madeleine is niet meer, dat is voor mij en vele anderen klontje klaar, ondanks dat er geen aanklachten zijn, de zaak ook ogenschijnlijk stil ligt, reputaties van de McCanns en hun vrienden zijn niet geheel zuiver meer, er kleeft iets aan hen en misschien, ooit...gaan er mensen praten, in de regel blijft zoiets niet binnenskamers.
    Ik heb het gekeken, op de vraag wat er nu daadwerkelijk wordt gedaan om Madeleine te vinden was het antwoord van Gerry:
    quote:
    I think that one thing, today, we would like to re-emphasise is the search for Madeleine is very much ongoing. ... Um ... We have .... er .... a lot of activity going on behind the scenes .... er .... We will become public with the activity when feel we need more information in a specific area . But ... er .... Madeleine's fund is ... er ... funding an ongoing search. We're very, very keen to work with the authorities both here and in Portugal, to try at the very, very least to find Madeleine and find who took her.
    Binnenkort alsnog een reconstructie? Openheid van zaken geven op alle onduidelijkheden in de statements van de Tapas-gang? Ik denk het niet. Hopelijk komt er iemand naar buiten maar de kans daarop acht ik niet zo groot, misschien iets in de trant van een "death-bed-confession" of zoiets. Anders zou ik niet weten wie er gaat babbelen, ze zitten er allemaal tot aan hun nek in ben ik bang.
    kahaarinvrijdag 20 maart 2009 @ 14:13
    http://joana-morais.blogs(...)o-jeremy-paxman.html
    (klik op quote of the day direct links van het artikel)
    quote:
    "Madeleine McCann's parents will savage bungling Portuguese cops in a tell-all interview with chat queen Oprah Winfrey when they are cleared as suspects tomorrow.

    For 317 days fuming Kate and Gerry have been gagged by their status as arguidos.

    But at noon tomorrow a judge will formally lift the cloud of suspicion - as exclusively revealed in The People in April.

    And the McCanns will finally be free to speak about the investigation into three-year-old Maddie's disappearance."


    Nick Dorman, in 'The People', 20.07.2008
    vaag dat ze haar nog three year old noemen, ze zou inmiddels bijna 5 zijn toch? Laat ze maar naar Oprah gaan en hun verhaal doen, ook al zijn ze geen arguido meer als er nieuwe zaken aan het licht komen dan kunnen ze het onderzoek gewoon weer openen!
    kahaarinzaterdag 21 maart 2009 @ 14:17
    Goh Suko, je hebt een vooruitziende blik, er komt nu het 1 en ander los waar ik kippenvel van krij....
    quote:
    McCann Case: Freedom of Information Act on John Buck former Ambassador


    It was Tony Blair and Gordon Brown who were behind the instructions given to the UK ambassador, John Buck, and to the British consul, Bill Henderson (the two senior UK diplomats in Portugal at the time she disappeared), to make sure Gerry and Kate McCann were given all possible assistance.

    A few minutes after the return to Faro of the team of experts that the PJ had sent to Leicester, Her Majesty's British Ambassador, John Buck, to the Portuguese Republic was already visiting their premises. The presence of the diplomat, that has been confirmed by several journalist, is in direct relation with the Madeleine McCann case and was not asked by the Portuguese Authorities. The ambassador has stayed half an hour with the police.

    John Buck - British Ambassador in Portugal in May 2006 - resigns his post on 10/09/07 - shortly after the McCanns are made suspects. John is replaced by Alexander Ellis. Leaves the Diplomatic Services entirely.

    Related

    Daily Express: Madeleine: British Diplomat had doubts about McCanns
    3 December 2007 (no longer on-line)

    A British diplomat warned the Foreign Office of concerns regarding Mad­eleine McCann’s parents, it emerged last night. Doubts about Kate and Gerry McCann were raised almost immediately by an official sent to Praia da Luz due to what he considered to be “inconsistencies” in the couple’s testimonies about the night the four-year-old vanished. The warning was contained in a classified document sent from the Algarve to the Foreign Office days after Madeleine’s disappearance. Details of the letter have been leaked through the British diplomatic mission in Brussels to the respected Belgian newspaper Derniere Heure.

    The unnamed diplomat voices his concern about the “confused declarations” as to the whereabouts of Kate and Gerry McCann and their friends in the final hours before Madeleine’s disappearance. He also mentions the couple’s “lack of co-operation” with the Portuguese police in the light of instructions from London suggesting consular staff “overstretch their authority and put pressure on the Portuguese authorities”. The document also asks for confirmation of orders sent by the Foreign Office in London the day before, commanding embassy staff to give “all possible assistance to the McCann couple”.

    Diplomats on the Algarve were told the McCanns had to be “accompanied at all times during any contact with the Portuguese police” by a member of consular staff or by British police officers sent out from the UK. The letter, sent just days after Madeleine disappeared, warns of the risks of siding with the McCanns so completely. Excerpts published in a report by La Derniere Heure quote the diplomat as saying: “With the greatest respect, I would like to make you aware of the risks and implications to our relationship with the Portuguese authorities, if you consider the possible involvement of the couple. “Please confirm to me, in the light of these concerns, that we want to continue to be closely involved in the case as was requested in your previous ­message.”

    A huge team of diplomats have been involved in the case since Gerry McCann asked the Foreign Office for help. In an unprecedented move, the then Prime Minister Tony Blair despatched special envoy Sheree Dodd, a former Fleet Street journalist, to Portugal to act as a “med­ia liaison officer” for the McCann family. Direct government communications with the McCanns came to an abrupt halt, however, when the couple were made official suspects in the case in September.

    Portuguese detectives believe it is possible Madeleine died as the result of an accident on May 3 in the family’s holiday apartment and that her parents hid and later disposed of her body with the help of their friends. The couple have always said they had nothing to do with their daughter’s disappearance. The Belgian report says it is highly significant that almost all of the diplomats involved at the outset have now been taken off the case.

    Special envoy Sheree Dodd has since resigned from the Foreign Office, the British consul in the Algarve Bill Henderson has retired and the British ambassador to Portugal John Buck is no longer in Portugal. Last night the Foreign Office refused to comment on the report.
    En nu ben ik heel benieuwd wie er dan aan de touwtjes heeft getrokken, op de site van Joanna staan onder het artikel, wederom quote van de dag, uitdraaien van bewijsstukken.

    quote:
    Naar aanleiding hiervan:

    Extracts from the FOI released by ICO - Information Commissioner's Office

    Freedom of Information Act 2000 (Section 50) Decision Notice 3 March 2009 Public Authority: Foreign and Commonwealth Office - Reference: FS50188322

    In October 2007 the complainant asked the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) for information concerning communications between the then Ambassador to Portugal John Buck and the Portuguese police on the subject of the disappearance of the child Madeleine McCann. However, some further information continued to be withheld; it was this refusal to provide information that the Commissioner investigated.

    FCO added that, at the time of the internal review (December 2007), the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann had been ongoing and that, for legal reasons, it had not been possible to disclose further information then.

    FCO told the Commissioner that, although the Portuguese authorities had released many documents about the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, sensitivities remained and FCO believed that the section 27(1)(a)* exemption still applied. If FCO were to disclose all the details about HM Ambassador’s contact with the Portuguese police they would risk damaging the relationship on which good inter-governmental co-operation was based.
    Is dit vreemd of wat...? Een diplomaat die zijn twijfels had tegen de Tapas-gang is via de achterdeurt weggeloodst en er is iemand teruggekomen die de Portugese autoriteiten onder druk heeft gezet....

    Er staan nog meer officiele stukken bij het artikel, alles hier neerzetten wordt te veel.
    Sukozaterdag 21 maart 2009 @ 21:02
    Ach, ik ben/was lang niet de enige die vermoedens heeft van Britse betrokkenheid van people in high places, en die pistolen gericht houden tegen Portugese koppen die of zelf iets te verbergen of economische belangen hebben (enorme projecten van de Britten in dat doodarme Portugal+de ondertekening van het EU-verdrag tijdens het Portugese voorzitterschap) om toch mee te werken aan een smerige cover-up. Denk alleen al aan die tig vervangingen van politiefunctionarissen, het niet overhandigen qua achtergronden (ook bankgegevens, telefoontjes, sms-jes) van betrokkenen, DNA-materiaal 'kwijtgemaakt' wie zitten daar achter, met als laatste vervanging van politieleider qua onderzoek, Amaral, de man die te dicht bij de waarheid kwam.

    Is daarvoor Madeleine opgeofferd? Er zijn onderlinge vriendschappen meegemoeid die belangen hebben, ze weten veel van elkaar. Madeleine (en de tweeling) is verwekt middels IVF, ook de kids van Gordon Brown, meerdere kinderen in de directe omgeving van de McCanns, in particuliere instituten, iets wat den gewone burger onthouden wordt, kost teveel via de NHS en wachtlijsten. Er is iets wat enorm verborgen moet blijven, niks zeggen want anders vallen er muren van verderf en daarmee gepaard gaande voordelen omver, met verstrekkende gevolgen. En mogelijk is het nog erger, maar dat hou ik maar voor me....waarom werd Madeleine onder toezicht gesteld,waarom wilden ze afstand doen (nog voor de 'verdwijning'), dat Kate haar niet aankon lijkt me iets te magertjes, waarom wilden de McCanns haar niet eigenlijk, waarom moeten stukken betreffende Madeleine's medische verleden geheim blijven, etc etc etc...

    Tot slot, Tony Bennett heeft recent zijn boekje 'What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann? - 60 Reasons which suggest she was not abducted'. gestuurd aan tig Britse MP.' gestuurd en is daar nog mee bezig. Dus iedereen van enige politieke importantie of anderszins weet er nu/straks van. (de site van Tony Bennett)

    Ik plaats hier de lijst van de betreffende MP's zodat het maar bekend is, zak maar zeggen... In het topic van de 3 arguido's is dat verwijderd, bij deze, voor de historie, voor mensen die ook twijfelen en denken, waarom staan al die bedenkingen, mogelijke conclusies niet in de pers, waarom graaft niemand wat dieper en luistert alleen naar dat gebabbel van de McCanns en co...

    Voor het nageslacht en mogelijk de McCann-tweeling:

    Abbott, Ms Diane (Lab) - Hackney North & Stoke Newington SENT, paid for by SY
    Adams, Mr Gerry (SF) - Belfast West SENT, paid for by HT
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    Ainger, Nick (Lab) -Carmarthen West & South Pembrokeshire
    Ainsworth, Mr Peter (Con) - East Surrey
    Ainsworth, Rt Hon Bob (Lab)- Coventry North East
    Alexander, Danny (LD) - Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch & Strathspey
    Alexander, Rt Hon Douglas (Lab) - Paisley & Renfrewshire South
    Allen, Mr Graham (Lab) - Nottingham North
    Amess, Mr David (Con) - Southend West
    Ancram, Earl of, Rt Hon Michael (Con) - Devizes
    Anderson, Mr David (Lab) - Blaydon
    Anderson, Janet (Lab) - Rossendale & Darwen
    Arbuthnot, Rt Hon James (Con) - North East Hampshire
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    Bacon, Mr Richard (Con) - South Norfolk
    Bailey, Mr Adrian (Lab/Co-op) - West Bromwich West
    Baird, Vera QC (Lab) - Redcar
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    Banks, Gordon (Lab) - Ochil & South Perthshire
    Barker, Gregory (Con) - Bexhill & Battle
    Barlow, Ms Celia (Lab) - Hove
    Baron, Mr John (Con) - Billericay
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    Begg, Miss Anne (Lab) - Aberdeen South
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    Bell, Sir Stuart (Lab) - Middlesbrough
    Bellingham, Mr Henry (Con) - North West Norfolk
    Benn, Rt Hon Hilary (Lab) - Leeds Central
    Benton, Mr Joe (Lab) - Bootle
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    Berry, Dr Roger (Lab) - Kingswood
    Betts, Mr Clive (Lab) - Sheffield, Attercliffe
    Binley, Mr Brian (Con) - Northampton South
    Blackman, Liz (Lab) - Erewash
    Blackman-Woods, Dr Roberta (Lab) - Durham, City of
    Blears, Rt Hon Hazel (Lab) - Salford
    Blizzard, Mr Bob (Lab) - Waveney
    Blunkett, Rt Hon David (Lab) - Sheffield, Brightside
    Blunt, Mr Crispin (Con) - Reigate
    Bone, Mr Peter (Con) - Wellingborough
    Borrow, Mr David S. (Lab) - South Ribble
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    Brown, Rt Hon Gordon (Lab) - Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath SENT (Madeleine Foundation)
    Brown, Lyn (Lab) - West Ham
    Brown, Rt Hon Nicholas (Lab) - Newcastle upon Tyne East & Wallsend
    Brown, Mr Russell (Lab) - Dumfries & Galloway
    Browne, Rt Hon Des (Lab) - Kilmarnock & Loudoun
    Browne, Mr Jeremy (LD) - Taunton
    Browning, Angela (Con) - Tiverton & Honiton
    Bruce, Rt Hon Malcolm (LD) - Gordon
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    Buck, Ms Karen (Lab) - Regent's Park & Kensington
    Burden, Richard (Lab) - Birmingham, Northfield
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    Burstow, Mr Paul (LD) - Sutton & Cheam
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    Dismore, Mr Andrew (Lab) - Hendon
    Djanogly, Mr Jonathan (Con) - Huntingdon
    Dobbin, Jim (Lab/Co-op) - Heywood & Middleton
    Dobson, Rt Hon Frank (Lab) - Holborn & St Pancras
    Dodds, Mr Nigel (DU) - Belfast North SENT Paid for by Eileen Calder of the Northern Ireland Rape Crisis Centre
    Doherty, Mr Pat (SF) - West Tyrone
    Donaldson, Rt Hon Jeffrey M. (DU) - Lagan Valley SENT, paid for by HT
    Donohoe, Mr Brian H. (Lab) - Central Ayrshire
    Doran, Mr Frank (Lab) - Aberdeen North
    Dorrell, Rt Hon Stephen (Con) - Charnwood
    Dorries, Nadine (Con) - Mid Bedfordshire
    Dowd, Jim (Lab) - Lewisham West
    Drew, Mr David (Lab/Co-op) - Stroud
    Duddridge, James (Con) - Rochford & Southend East
    Duncan, Mr Alan (Con) - Rutland & Melton
    Duncan Smith, Rt Hon Iain (Con) - Chingford & Woodford Green DELIVERED BY HAND 11.3.09 to constituency office by RubyTwoShoes
    Dunne, Mr Philip (Con) - Ludlow
    Durkan, Mark (SDLP) - Foyle
    Eagle, Angela (Lab) - Wallasey SENT, paid for by AE
    Eagle, Maria (Lab) - Liverpool, Garston SENT, paid for by AE
    Efford, Clive (Lab) - Eltham SENT, paid for by AE
    Ellman, Mrs Louise (Lab/Co-op) - Liverpool, Riverside SENT, paid for by AE
    Ellwood, Mr Tobias (Con) - Bournemouth East SENT, paid for by AEEngel, Mrs Natascha (Lab) - North East Derbyshire SENT, paid for by AE
    Ennis, Jeff (Lab) - Barnsley East & Mexborough
    Etherington, Bill (Lab) - Sunderland North
    Evans, Mr Nigel (Con) - Ribble Valley
    Evennett, Mr David (Con) - Bexleyheath & Crayford
    Fabricant, Michael (Con) - Lichfield
    Fallon, Mr Michael (Con) - Sevenoaks
    Farrelly, Paul (Lab) - Newcastle-under-Lyme
    Farron, Tim (LD) - Westmorland & Lonsdale
    Featherstone, Lynne (LD) - Hornsey & Wood Green
    Field, Rt Hon Frank (Lab) - Birkenhead
    Field, Mr Mark (Con) - Cities of London & Westminster
    Fisher, Mark (Lab) - Stoke-on-Trent Central
    Fitzpatrick, Jim (Lab) - Poplar & Canning Town
    Flello, Mr Robert (Lab) - Stoke-on-Trent South
    Flint, Rt Hon Caroline (Lab) - Don Valley
    Flynn, Paul (Lab) - Newport West
    Follett, Barbara (Lab) - Stevenage
    Foster, Mr Don (LD) - Bath
    Foster, Michael Jabez (Lab) - Hastings & Rye
    Foster, Mr Michael (Lab) - Worcester
    Fox, Dr Liam (Con) - Woodspring
    Francis, Dr Hywel (Lab) - Aberavon
    Francois, Mr Mark (Con) - Rayleigh
    Fraser, Christopher (Con) - South West Norfolk
    Gale, Mr Roger (Con) - North Thanet
    Galloway, Mr George (Respect) - Bethnal Green & Bow
    Gapes, Mike (Lab/Co-op) - Ilford South
    Gardiner, Barry (Lab) - Brent North
    Garnier, Mr Edward (Con) - Harborough
    Gauke, Mr David (Con) - South West Hertfordshire
    George, Andrew (LD) - St Ives
    George, Rt Hon Bruce (Lab) - Walsall South
    Gerrard, Mr Neil (Lab) - Walthamstow
    Gibb, Mr Nick (Con) - Bognor Regis & Littlehampton
    Gibson, Dr Ian (Lab) - Norwich North
    Gidley, Sandra (LD) - Romsey
    Gildernew, Michelle (SF) - Fermanagh & South Tyrone SENT - Paid for by Eileen Calder of the Northern Ireland Rape Crisis Centre
    Gillan, Mrs Cheryl (Con) - Chesham & Amersham
    Gilroy, Linda (Lab/Co-op) - Plymouth, Sutton
    Godsiff, Mr Roger (Lab) - Birmingham, Sparkbrook & Small Heath
    Goggins, Paul (Lab) - Wythenshawe & Sale East
    Goldsworthy, Julia (LD) - Falmouth & Camborne
    Goodman, Helen (Lab) - Bishop Auckland
    Goodman, Mr Paul (Con) - Wycombe
    Goodwill, Mr Robert (Con) - Scarborough & Whitby
    Gove, Michael (Con) - Surrey Heath
    Gray, Mr James (Con) - North Wiltshire
    Grayling, Chris (Con) - Epsom & Ewell
    Green, Damian (Con) - Ashford
    Greening, Justine (Con) - Putney
    Greenway, Mr John (Con) - Ryedale
    Grieve, Mr Dominic (Con) - Beaconsfield
    Griffith, Nia (Lab) - Llanelli
    Griffiths, Nigel (Lab) - Edinburgh South
    Grogan, Mr John (Lab) - Selby
    Gummer, Rt Hon John (Con) - Suffolk Coastal
    Gwynne, Andrew (Lab) - Denton & Reddish
    Hague, Rt Hon William (Con) - Richmond (Yorks)
    Hain, Rt Hon Peter (Lab) - Neath
    Hall, Mr Mike (Lab) - Weaver Vale
    Hall, Patrick (Lab) - Bedford
    Hamilton, Mr David (Lab) - Midlothian
    Hamilton, Mr Fabian (Lab) - Leeds North East
    Hammond, Mr Philip (Con) - Runnymede & Weybridge
    Hammond, Stephen (Con) - Wimbledon
    Hancock, Mr Mike (LD) - Portsmouth South
    Hands, Mr Greg (Con) - Hammersmith & Fulham
    Hanson, Rt Hon David (Lab) - Delyn
    Harman, Rt Hon Harriet (Lab) - Camberwell & Peckham
    Harper, Mr Mark (Con) - Forest of Dean
    Harris, Dr Evan (LD) - Oxford West & Abingdon
    Harris, Mr Tom (Lab) - Glasgow South
    Harvey, Nick (LD) - North Devon
    Haselhurst, Rt Hon Sir Alan - (CWM) - Saffron Walden
    Havard, Mr Dai (Lab) - Merthyr Tydfil & Rhymney
    Hayes, Mr John (Con) - South Holland & The Deepings
    Heal, Sylvia (DCWM) - Halesowen & Rowley Regis
    Heald, Mr Oliver (Con) - North East Hertfordshire
    Healey, Rt Hon John (Lab) - Wentworth
    Heath, Mr David (LD) - Somerton & Frome
    Heathcoat-Amory, Rt Hon David (Con) - Wells
    Hemming, John (LD) - Birmingham, Yardley
    Henderson, Mr Doug (Lab) - Newcastle upon Tyne North
    Hendrick, Mr Mark (Lab/Co-op) - Preston
    Hendry, Charles (Con) - Wealden
    Hepburn, Mr Stephen (Lab) - Jarrow
    Heppell, Mr John (Lab) - Nottingham East
    Herbert, Mr Nick (Con) - Arundel & South Downs
    Hermon, Lady Sylvia (UU) - North Down SENT - Paid for by Eileen Calder of the Northern Ireland Rape Crisis Centre
    Hesford, Stephen (Lab) - Wirral West
    Hewitt, Rt Hon Patricia (Lab) - Leicester West
    Heyes, David (Lab) - Ashton-under-Lyne
    Hill, Rt Hon Keith (Lab) - Streatham
    Hillier, Meg (Lab/Co-op) - Hackney South & Shoreditch
    Hoban, Mr Mark (Con) - Fareham
    Hodge, Rt Hon Margaret (Lab) - Barking
    Hodgson, Mrs Sharon (Lab) - Gateshead East & Washington
    Hoey, Kate (Lab) - Vauxhall
    Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (Con) - Sleaford & North Hykeham
    Hollobone, Mr Philip (Con) - Kettering
    Holloway, Mr Adam (Con) - Gravesham
    Holmes, Paul (LD) - Chesterfield
    Hood, Mr Jim (Lab) - Lanark & Hamilton East
    Hoon, Rt Hon Geoff (Lab) - Ashfield
    Hope, Phil (Lab/Co-op) - Corby
    Hopkins, Kelvin (Lab) - Luton North
    Horam, Mr John (Con) - Orpington
    Horwood, Mr Martin (LD) - Cheltenham
    Hosie, Stewart (SNP) - Dundee East
    Howard, Rt Hon Michael (Con) - Folkestone & Hythe
    Howarth, David (LD) - Cambridge
    Howarth, Rt Hon George (Lab) - Knowsley North & Sefton East
    Howarth, Mr Gerald (Con) - Aldershot
    Howell, John (Con) - Henley
    Howells, Dr Kim (Lab) - Pontypridd
    Hoyle, Mr Lindsay (Lab) - Chorley
    Hughes, Rt Hon Beverley (Lab) - Stretford & Urmston
    Hughes, Simon (LD) - North Southwark & Bermondsey
    Huhne, Chris (LD) - Eastleigh
    Humble, Mrs Joan (Lab) - Blackpool North & Fleetwood
    Hunt, Mr Jeremy (Con) - South West Surrey
    Hunter, Mark (LD) - Cheadle
    Hurd, Mr Nick (Con) - Ruislip Northwood
    Hutton, Rt Hon John (Lab) - Barrow & Furness
    Iddon, Dr Brian (Lab) - Bolton South East
    Illsley, Mr Eric (Lab) - Barnsley Central
    Ingram, Rt Hon Adam (Lab) - East Kilbride, Strathaven & Lesmahagow
    Irranca-Davies, Huw (Lab) - Ogmore
    Jack, Rt Hon Michael (Con) - Fylde
    Jackson, Glenda (Lab) - Hampstead & Highgate
    Jackson, Mr Stewart (Con) - Peterborough
    James, Mrs Siân C. (Lab) - Swansea East
    Jenkin, Mr Bernard (Con) - North Essex
    Jenkins, Mr Brian (Lab) - Tamworth
    Johnson, Rt Hon Alan (Lab) - Kingston upon Hull West & Hessle
    Johnson, Ms Diana R. (Lab) - Kingston upon Hull North
    Jones, Mr David (Con) - Clwyd West
    Jones, Helen (Lab) - Warrington North
    Jones, Mr Kevan (Lab) - North Durham
    Jones, Lynne (Lab) - Birmingham, Selly Oak
    Jones, Mr Martyn (Lab) - Clwyd South
    Jowell, Rt Hon Tessa (Lab) - Dulwich & West Norwood
    Joyce, Eric (Lab) - Falkirk
    Kaufman, Rt Hon Sir Gerald (Lab) - Manchester, Gorton
    Kawczynski, Daniel (Con) - Shrewsbury & Atcham
    Keeble, Ms Sally (Lab) - Northampton North
    Keeley, Ms Barbara (Lab) - Worsley
    Keen, Ann (Lab) - Brentford & Isleworth
    Keen, Alan (Lab/Co-op) - Feltham & Heston
    Keetch, Mr Paul (LD) - Hereford
    Kelly, Rt Hon Ruth (Lab) - Bolton West
    Kemp, Mr Fraser (Lab) - Houghton & Washington East
    Kennedy, Rt Hon Charles (LD) - Ross, Skye & Lochaber
    Kennedy, Rt Hon Jane (Lab) - Liverpool, Wavertree
    Key, Robert (Con) - Salisbury
    Khan, Mr Sadiq (Lab) - Tooting
    Kidney, Mr David (Lab) - Stafford
    Kilfoyle, Mr Peter (Lab) - Liverpool, Walton
    Kirkbride, Miss Julie (Con) - Bromsgrove
    Knight, Rt Hon Greg (Con) - East Yorkshire
    Knight, Rt Hon Jim (Lab) - South Dorset
    Kramer, Susan (LD) - Richmond Park
    Kumar, Dr Ashok (Lab) - Middlesbrough South & East Cleveland
    Ladyman, Dr Stephen (Lab) - South Thanet
    Laing, Mrs Eleanor (Con) - Epping Forest
    Lait, Mrs Jacqui (Con) - Beckenham
    Lamb, Norman (LD) - North Norfolk
    Lammy, Rt Hon David (Lab) - Tottenham
    Lancaster, Mr Mark (Con) - North East Milton Keynes
    Lansley, Mr Andrew (Con) - South Cambridgeshire
    Laws, Mr David (LD) - Yeovil
    Laxton, Mr Bob (Lab) - Derby North
    Lazarowicz, Mark (Lab/Co-op) - Edinburgh North & Leith
    Leech, Mr John (LD) - Manchester, Withington
    Leigh, Mr Edward (Con) - Gainsborough
    Lepper, David (Lab/Co-op) - Brighton, Pavilion
    Letwin, Rt Hon Oliver (Con) - West Dorset
    Levitt, Tom (Lab) - High Peak
    Lewis, Mr Ivan (Lab) - Bury South
    Lewis, Dr Julian (Con) - New Forest East
    Liddell-Grainger, Mr Ian (Con) - Bridgwater
    Lidington, Mr David (Con) - Aylesbury
    Lilley, Rt Hon Peter (Con) - Hitchin & Harpenden
    Linton, Martin (Lab) - Battersea
    Lloyd, Tony (Lab) - Manchester Central
    Llwyd, Mr Elfyn (PC) - Meirionnydd Nant Conwy
    Lord, Sir Michael (DCWM) - Central Suffolk & North Ipswich
    Loughton, Tim (Con) - East Worthing & Shoreham
    Love, Mr Andy (Lab/Co-op) - Edmonton
    Lucas, Ian (Lab) - Wrexham
    Luff, Peter (Con) - Mid Worcestershire
    McAvoy, Rt Hon Thomas (Lab/Co-op) - Rutherglen & Hamilton West
    McCabe, Stephen (Lab) - Birmingham, Hall Green
    McCafferty, Chris (Lab) - Calder Valley
    McCarthy, Kerry (Lab) - Bristol East
    McCarthy-Fry, Sarah (Lab) - Portsmouth North
    McCartney, Rt Hon Ian (Lab) - Makerfield
    McCrea, Rev Dr William (DU) - South Antrim SENT, paid by HT
    McDonagh, Siobhain (Lab) - Mitcham & Morden
    McDonnell, Dr Alasdair (SDLP) - Belfast South SENT, paid by HT
    McDonnell, John (Lab) - Hayes & Harlington
    McFadden, Rt Hon Pat (Lab) - Wolverhampton South East
    McFall, Rt Hon John (Lab/Co-op) - West Dunbartonshire
    McGovern, Mr Jim (Lab) - Dundee West
    McGrady, Mr Eddie (SDLP) - South Down SENT, paid by HT
    McGuinness, Mr Martin (SF) - Mid Ulster SENT - Paid for by Eileen Calder of the Northern Ireland Rape Crisis Centre
    McGuire, Rt Hon Anne (Lab) - Stirling
    McIntosh, Miss Anne (Con) - Vale of York
    McIsaac, Shona (Lab) - Cleethorpes
    Mackay, Rt Hon Andrew (Con) - Bracknell
    McKechin, Ann (Lab) - Glasgow North
    McKenna, Rosemary (Lab) - Cumbernauld, Kilsyth & Kirkintilloch
    Mackinlay, Andrew (Lab) - Thurrock
    Maclean, Rt Hon David (Con) - Penrith & The Border
    McLoughlin, Rt Hon Patrick (Con) - West Derbyshire
    MacNeil, Mr Angus (SNP) - Na h-Eileanan an Iar
    McNulty, Rt Hon Tony (Lab) - Harrow East
    MacShane, Rt Hon Denis (Lab) - Rotherham
    Mactaggart, Fiona (Lab) - Slough
    Mahmood, Mr Khalid (Lab) - Birmingham, Perry Barr
    Main, Anne (Con) - St Albans
    Malik, Mr Shahid (Lab) - Dewsbury
    Malins, Mr Humfrey (Con) - Woking
    Mallaber, Judy (Lab) - Amber Valley
    Mann, John (Lab) - Bassetlaw
    Maples, Mr John (Con) - Stratford-on-Avon
    Marris, Rob (Lab) - Wolverhampton South West
    Marsden, Mr Gordon (Lab) - Blackpool South
    Marshall-Andrews, Mr Robert (Lab) - Medway
    Martin, Rt Hon Michael J. (SPK) - Glasgow North East
    Martlew, Mr Eric (Lab) - Carlisle
    Mason, John (SNP) - Glasgow East
    Mates, Rt Hon Michael (Con) - East Hampshire
    Maude, Rt Hon Francis (Con) - Horsham
    May, Rt Hon Theresa (Con) - Maidenhead
    Meacher, Rt Hon Michael (Lab) - Oldham West & Royton
    Meale, Mr Alan (Lab) - Mansfield
    Mercer, Patrick (Con) - Newark
    Merron, Gillian (Lab) - Lincoln
    Michael, Rt Hon Alun (Lab/Co-op) - Cardiff South & Penarth
    Milburn, Rt Hon Alan (Lab) - Darlington
    Miliband, Rt Hon David (Lab) - South Shields SENT - Madeleine Foundation
    Miliband, Rt Hon Edward (Lab) - Doncaster North
    Miller, Andrew (Lab) - Ellesmere Port & Neston
    Miller, Mrs Maria (Con) - Basingstoke
    Milton, Anne (Con) - Guildford
    Mitchell, Mr Andrew (Con) - Sutton Coldfield
    Mitchell, Mr Austin (Lab) - Great Grimsby
    Moffat, Anne (Lab) - East Lothian
    Moffatt, Laura (Lab) - Crawley
    Mole, Chris (Lab) - Ipswich SENT, paid for by amber08
    Moon, Mrs Madeleine (Lab) - Bridgend
    Moore, Mr Michael (LD) - Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk
    Moran, Margaret (Lab) - Luton South
    Morden, Jessica (Lab) - Newport East
    Morgan, Julie (Lab) - Cardiff North
    Morley, Rt Hon Elliot (Lab) - Scunthorpe
    Moss, Mr Malcolm (Con) - North East Cambridgeshire
    Mountford, Kali (Lab) - Colne Valley
    Mudie, Mr George (Lab) - Leeds East
    Mulholland, Greg (LD) - Leeds North West
    Mullin, Mr Chris (Lab) - Sunderland South
    Mundell, David (Con) - Dumfriesshire, Clydesdale & Tweeddale
    Munn, Meg (Lab/Co-op) - Sheffield, Heeley
    Murphy, Conor (SF) - Newry & Armagh SENT, paid by HT
    Murphy, Mr Denis (Lab) - Wansbeck
    Murphy, Rt Hon Jim (Lab) - East Renfrewshire
    Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Lab) - Torfaen
    Murrison, Dr Andrew (Con) - Westbury
    Naysmith, Dr Doug (Lab/Co-op) - Bristol North West
    Neill, Bob (Con) - Bromley & Chislehurst
    Newmark, Mr Brooks (Con) - Braintree
    Norris, Dan (Lab) - Wansdyke
    Oaten, Mr Mark (LD) - Winchester
    O'Brien, Mr Mike (Lab) - North Warwickshire
    O'Brien, Mr Stephen (Con) - Eddisbury
    O'Hara, Mr Edward (Lab) - Knowsley South
    Olner, Mr Bill (Lab) - Nuneaton
    Öpik, Lembit (LD) - Montgomeryshire
    Osborne, Mr George (Con) - Tatton
    Osborne, Sandra (Lab) - Ayr, Carrick & Cumnock
    Ottaway, Richard (Con) - Croydon South
    Owen, Albert (Lab) - Ynys Môn
    Paice, Mr James (Con) - South East Cambridgeshire
    Paisley, Rt Hon Ian (DU) - North Antrim SENT -paid for by Eileen Calder, Northern Ireland Rape Crisis Centre
    Palmer, Dr Nick (Lab) - Broxtowe SENT, paid for by Grenville Green (Magic Mushroom)
    Paterson, Mr Owen (Con) - North Shropshire
    Pearson, Ian (Lab) - Dudley South
    Pelling, Mr Andrew (Ind) - Croydon Central
    Penning, Mike (Con) - Hemel Hempstead
    Penrose, John (Con) - Weston-Super-Mare
    Pickles, Mr Eric (Con) - Brentwood & Ongar
    Plaskitt, Mr James (Lab) - Warwick & Leamington
    Pope, Mr Greg (Lab) - Hyndburn
    Pound, Stephen (Lab) - Ealing North
    Prentice, Bridget (Lab) - Lewisham East
    Prentice, Mr Gordon (Lab) - Pendle
    Prescott, Rt Hon John (Lab) - Kingston upon Hull East
    Price, Adam (PC) - Carmarthen East & Dinefwr
    Primarolo, Rt Hon Dawn (Lab) - Bristol South
    Prisk, Mr Mark (Con) - Hertford & Stortford
    Pritchard, Mark (Con) - Wrekin, The
    Prosser, Gwyn (Lab) - Dover
    Pugh, Dr John (LD) - Southport
    Purchase, Mr Ken (Lab/Co-op) - Wolverhampton North East
    Purnell, Rt Hon James (Lab) - Stalybridge & Hyde
    Rammell, Bill (Lab) - Harlow SENT - Madeleine Foundation
    Randall, Mr John (Con) - Uxbridge
    Raynsford, Rt Hon Nick (Lab) - Greenwich & Woolwich
    Redwood, Rt Hon John (Con) - Wokingham
    Reed, Mr Andy (Lab/Co-op) - Loughborough
    Reed, Mr Jamie (Lab) - Copeland
    Reid, Mr Alan (LD) - Argyll & Bute
    Reid, Rt Hon John (Lab) - Airdrie & Shotts
    Rennie, Willie (LD) - Dunfermline & West Fife
    Rifkind, Rt Hon Sir Malcolm (Con) - Kensington & Chelsea
    Riordan, Mrs Linda (Lab/Co-op) - Halifax
    Robathan, Mr Andrew (Con) - Blaby
    Robertson, Angus (SNP) - Moray
    Robertson, Hugh (Con) - Faversham & Mid Kent
    Robertson, John (Lab) - Glasgow North West
    Robertson, Mr Laurence (Con) - Tewkesbury
    Robinson, Mr Geoffrey (Lab) - Coventry North West
    Robinson, Mrs Iris (DU) - Strangford SENT - paid for by Eileen Calder of the Northern Ireland Rape Crisis Centre
    Robinson, Rt Hon Peter (DU) - Belfast East
    Rogerson, Dan (LD) - North Cornwall
    Rooney, Mr Terry (Lab) - Bradford North
    Rosindell, Andrew (Con) - Romford
    Rowen, Paul (LD) - Rochdale
    Roy, Mr Frank (Lab) - Motherwell & Wishaw
    Roy, Lindsay (Lab) - Glenrothes
    Ruane, Chris (Lab) - Vale of Clwyd SENT, paid for by SY
    Ruddock, Joan (Lab) - Lewisham, Deptford
    Ruffley, Mr David (Con) - Bury St Edmunds
    Russell, Christine (Lab) - Chester, City of
    Russell, Bob (LD) - Colchester
    Ryan, Rt Hon Joan (Lab) - Enfield North
    Salmond, Rt Hon Alex (SNP) - Banff & Buchan
    Salter, Martin (Lab)- Reading West
    Sanders, Mr Adrian (LD) - Torbay
    Sarwar, Mr Mohammad (Lab) - Glasgow Central
    Scott, Mr Lee (Con) - Ilford North
    Seabeck, Alison (Lab) - Plymouth, Devonport
    Selous, Andrew (Con) - South West Bedfordshire SENT, paid for by DB
    Shapps, Grant (Con) - Welwyn Hatfield
    Sharma, Virendra (Lab) - Ealing, Southall
    Shaw, Jonathan (Lab) - Chatham & Aylesford
    Sheerman, Mr Barry (Lab/Co-op) - Huddersfield
    Shepherd, Mr Richard (Con) - Aldridge-Brownhills
    Sheridan, Jim (Lab) - Paisley & Renfrewshire North
    Short, Rt Hon Clare (Ind Lab) - Birmingham, Ladywood HANDED by Madeleine Foundation to her in an Oxford Street
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    Simon, Mr Siôn (Lab) - Birmingham, Erdington
    Simpson, Alan (Lab) - Nottingham South
    Simpson, David (DU) - Upper Bann
    Simpson, Mr Keith (Con) - Mid Norfolk
    Singh, Mr Marsha (Lab) - Bradford West
    Skinner, Mr Dennis (Lab) - Bolsover
    Slaughter, Mr Andy (Lab) - Ealing, Acton & Shepherd's Bush
    Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Lab) - Oxford East
    Smith, Ms Angela C. (Lab) - Sheffield, Hillsborough
    Smith, Angela E. (Lab/Co-op) - Basildon
    Smith, Geraldine (Lab) - Morecambe & Lunesdale
    Smith, Rt Hon Jacqui - (Lab) Redditch
    Smith, John (Lab) - Vale of Glamorgan
    Smith, Sir Robert (LD) - West Aberdeenshire & Kincardine
    Snelgrove, Anne (Lab) - South Swindon
    Soames, Hon Nicholas (Con) - Mid Sussex
    Soulsby, Sir Peter (Lab) - Leicester South
    Southworth, Helen (Lab) - Warrington
    Spellar, Rt Hon John (Lab) - Warley
    Spelman, Mrs Caroline (Con) - Meriden
    Spicer, Sir Michael (Con) - West Worcestershire
    Spink, Bob (Ind) - Castle Point
    Spring, Mr Richard (Con) - West Suffolk
    Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John (Con) - Tonbridge & Malling
    Starkey, Dr Phyllis (Lab) - Milton Keynes South West
    Steen, Mr Anthony (Con) - Totnes
    Stewart, Ian (Lab) - Eccles
    Stoate, Dr Howard (Lab) - Dartford
    Strang, Rt Hon Gavin (Lab) - Edinburgh East
    Straw, Rt Hon Jack (Lab) - Blackburn SENT - Madeleine Foundation
    Streeter, Mr Gary (Con) - South West Devon
    Stringer, Graham (Lab) - Manchester, Blackley
    Stuart, Ms Gisela (Lab) - Birmingham, Edgbaston
    Stuart, Mr Graham (Con) - Beverley & Holderness
    Stunell, Andrew (LD) - Hazel Grove
    Sutcliffe, Mr Gerry (Lab) - Bradford South
    Swayne, Mr Desmond (Con) - New Forest West
    Swinson, Jo (LD) - East Dunbartonshire
    Swire, Mr Hugo (Con) - East Devon
    Syms, Mr Robert (Con) - Poole
    Tami, Mark (Lab) - Alyn & Deeside
    Tapsell, Sir Peter (Con) - Louth & Horncastle SENT by 'william1'
    Taylor, Ms Dari (Lab) - Stockton South
    Taylor, David (Lab/Co-op) - North West Leicestershire
    Taylor, Mr Ian (Con) - Esher & Walton
    Taylor, Matthew (LD) - Truro & St Austell
    Taylor, Dr Richard (Ind) - Wyre Forest
    Teather, Sarah (LD) - Brent East
    Thomas, Mr Gareth (Lab/Co-op) - Harrow West
    Thornberry, Ms Emily (Lab) - Islington South & Finsbury
    Thurso, John (LD) - Caithness, Sutherland & Easter Ross
    Timms, Rt Hon Stephen (Lab) - East Ham
    Timpson, Edward (Con) - Crewe & Nantwich
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    Todd, Mr Mark (Lab) - South Derbyshire
    Touhig, Rt Hon Don (Lab/Co-op) - Islwyn
    Tredinnick, David (Con) - Bosworth
    Trickett, Jon (Lab) - Hemsworth
    Truswell, Mr Paul (Lab) - Pudsey
    Turner, Mr Andrew (Con) - Isle of Wight
    Turner, Dr Desmond (Lab) - Brighton, Kemptown
    Turner, Mr Neil (Lab) - Wigan
    Twigg, Derek (Lab) - Halton
    Tyrie, Mr Andrew (Con) - Chichester SENT, paid for by DB
    Ussher, Kitty (Lab) - Burnley
    Vaizey, Mr Edward (Con) - Wantage
    Vara, Mr Shailesh (Con) - North West Cambridgeshire SENT, paid for by DB
    Vaz, Rt Hon Keith (Lab) - Leicester East
    Viggers, Sir Peter (Con) - Gosport
    Villiers, Mrs Theresa (Con) - Chipping Barnet
    Vis, Dr Rudi (Lab) - Finchley & Golders Green
    Walker, Mr Charles (Con) - Broxbourne
    Wallace, Mr Ben (Con) - Lancaster & Wyre
    Walley, Joan (Lab) - Stoke-on-Trent North
    Walter, Mr Robert (Con) - North Dorset
    Waltho, Lynda (Lab) - Stourbridge
    Ward, Claire (Lab) - Watford
    Wareing, Mr Robert N. (Ind) - Liverpool, West Derby
    Waterson, Mr Nigel (Con) - Eastbourne
    Watkinson, Angela (Con) - Upminster
    Watson, Mr Tom (Lab) - West Bromwich
    Watts, Mr Dave (Lab) - St Helens
    Webb, Prof Steve (LD) - Northavon
    Weir, Mr Mike (SNP) - Angus
    Whitehead, Dr Alan (Lab) - Southampton, Test
    Whittingdale, Mr John (Con) - Maldon & East Chelmsford HANDED PERSONALLY TO HIM by Debbie/doris after Dr Gerald McCann gave his evidence to the Select Committee 10.3.09
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    Wiggin, Bill (Con) - Leominster
    Willetts, Mr David (Con) - Havant
    Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Lab) - Swansea West
    Williams, Mrs Betty (Lab) - Conwy
    Williams, Hywel (PC) - Caernarfon
    Williams, Mark (LD) - Ceredigion
    Williams, Mr Roger (LD) - Brecon & Radnorshire
    Williams, Stephen (LD) - Bristol West
    Willis, Mr Phil (LD) - Harrogate & Knaresborough
    Willott, Jenny (LD) - Cardiff Central
    Wills, Rt Hon Michael (Lab) - North Swindon
    Wilshire, Mr David (Con) - Spelthorne
    Wilson, Phil (Lab) - Sedgefield
    Wilson, Mr Rob (Con) - Reading East
    Wilson, Sammy (DU) - East Antrim SENT, paid by HT
    Winnick, Mr David (Lab) - Walsall
    Winterton, Ann (Con) - Congleton
    Winterton, Sir Nicholas (Con) - Macclesfield
    Winterton, Rt Hon Rosie (Lab) - Doncaster Central SENT, paid for by MR
    Wishart, Pete (SNP) - Perth & North Perthshire
    Wood, Mike (Lab) - Batley & Spen
    Woodward, Rt Hon Shaun (Lab) - St Helens South
    Woolas, Mr Phil (Lab) - Oldham East & Saddleworth
    Wright, Mr Anthony (Lab) - Great Yarmouth
    Wright, Dr Tony (Lab) - Cannock Chase
    Wright, David (Lab) - Telford
    Wright, Mr Iain (Lab) - Hartlepool
    Wright, Jeremy (Con) - Rugby & Kenilworth
    Wyatt, Derek (Lab) - Sittingbourne & Sheppey
    Yeo, Mr Tim (Con) - South Suffolk
    Young, Rt Hon Sir George (Con) - North West Hampshire
    Younger-Ross, Richard (LD) - Teignbridge

    Total sent:
    6 [10 March 2009]
    8 [11 March 2009, 10am]
    11 [11 March 2009, 12noon]
    17 [11 March 2009, 1pm]
    24 [11 March 2009, 3pm]
    32 [11 March 2009, 5pm]
    39 [11 March 2009, 6pm]

    Also sent:

    Baroness Scotland, Attorney-General"

    Amen.

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    kahaarindinsdag 24 maart 2009 @ 16:40
    Lol, Suko je bent niet bang voor knuppels in het hoederhok.

    Maar goed, de McConns hebben weer een nieuwe oproep gedaan en leaflets uitgedeeld, gewoon voor de volledigheid hier even neergezet:
    quote:
    McCanns make fresh Madeleine appeal

    Madeleine McCann's parents have launched a new appeal for information about their daughter focused on the area where she went missing nearly two years ago.

    About 10,000 leaflets in Portuguese will be handed out and posted through letterboxes in Praia da Luz, Lagos and Burgau in southern Portugal over the next fortnight.

    The Algarve campaign will be backed up with billboards and advertising on three buses and a van.

    Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the appeal was "very localised" with the aim of collecting the vital clue that could lead to Madeleine being found.

    The official Find Madeleine Fund said in a statement: "At the time of Madeleine's disappearance the emphasis was placed more on international appeals, and it has been recognised that the local Portuguese residents of Praia da Luz and the surrounding areas have never been properly asked about information they may have to give.

    "The purpose of the current campaign is to do just that - ask the local Portuguese residents for information to help to find Madeleine. Experience shows that the crucial answers are in the immediate vicinity.

    "Someone in the area could almost certainly have the vital information that could help Madeleine's return to her family, or a combination of people all coming forward with a single piece of information could piece together vital clues which could solve the disappearance.

    "Experience also shows that people almost always confide in someone else.

    "Someone in Praia da Luz may have been given information that should be passed on and now is the perfect opportunity to do just that."

    Information can be provided to the McCanns' private investigation team anonymously by telephone, email, text message or free post, and will be treated in confidence.
    Waarom zouden ze het nu de ideale tijd vinden voor een nieuwe campagne? Is de komkommertijd aan het aanbreken of zo?
    Sukodinsdag 24 maart 2009 @ 20:46
    Ha ha, in feite erkennen ze dus dat al dat gereis nutteloos was en dat ze de plaats delict links hebben laten liggen., wow....Afijn, het is kennelijk de start naar begin mei, toen Madeleine verdween, ff het publiek opwarmen, de beurzen moeten worden getrokken tenslotte. Zelf gaan ze natuurlijk niet, Kate heeft al eeuwen terug laten weten nooit terug te gaan naar Portugal. Merkwaardig, als je bedenkt dat ze zelf nu denken dat iemand (of meerdere) ter plaatse kennelijk iets moeten weten. Sterker, ze denken dat Madeleine nog leeft. Nee, (cult)leden zullen dat verzorgen: "The campaign will be supported by posters and publicity on three buses and a van. According to members of the “Find Madeleine” fund, the purpose of this action is to collect new depositions that may contribute to the investigation."

    En dat terwijl eventuele nuttige informatie aan de politie de zaak heropend kan worden, maar ja, dat willen ze niet echt he, vorig jaar hadden ze zelf een verzoek tot heropening kunnen doen, die datum is stilletjes overschreden met als enige commentaar dat ze daar het nut nu niet van inzagen....

    Gerry is wel even onlangs teruggeweest, zeker om die PI's te instrueren. Want nergens in de oproep van nu wordt gemeld dat men ook de politie kan bellen...nee, "It should be stressed that any information given will be treated with the utmost confidence. Information can be given anonymously by telephone, email, text and freepost." Zouden ze een getuige willen intimideren hiermee, dat zou tenslotte niet de eerste keer zijn, al tig mensen werden toen 'bezocht' (die daarna niet meer wilden/konden getuigen) door PI's en rijke stinkerd Brian Kennedy < leeft dat nog?

    Anyway, de McConns kunnen nog wat geld 'verdienen' middels een oproep van een Texaanse rijkerd die daar een miljoen dollar voor wil betalen: "if they can answer just one question. I will need to see evidence, either forensic evidence, witness evidence or strong circumstantial evidence that shows the man they want us to believe took their child probably did. If they publish compelling evidence that a man seen by a tourist before they arrived in Portugal, was "Madeleine‘s probable abductor," as they claim on their website, I will gladly give them a million dollars to help find that man.

    Even verderop in deze oproep. Als ze de uitdaging niet aangaan: ”If you cannot accept my challenge, others will ask why not. Others will ask why you have lied. Why have you pretended to the public a man probably abducted Madeleine when you have no evidence to support that claim?

    Others will know you are a liar. Others will wonder why you lied. I can only think of one reason why you would lie, because you want to create a smokescreen, a diversion from what really happened.

    You are collecting money from the public on your website based on the claim that Mrs. Cooper's man probably abducted Madeleine. If you cannot substantiate that claim and it transpires you have lied, you had better pay every cent back to those you have taken money from, because that would make you both a thief and a liar." Het hele verhaal: The McCann Million Dollar Challenge

    O ja, alle commentaartjes van lezers staan er nog nav het kritische stukje van Jan Moir in de Daily Mail, eerdere post, qua gedrag e.d.van Gerry McCann, verfrissend. Ik plaats deze maar gewoon, wel bedenkend dat er velen niet worden geplaatst en dus onderstaande schrijfsels ietwat uniek zijn, tuurlijk weten velen dat er tig kluiten belazerd worden, twee positieve reactries weggelaten, die waren te voorspelbaar:
    quote:
    * Thank you so much for your article about Gerry McCann. So many of us have exactly the same views about him. Sarah James, Wiltshire

    * very good article about gerry maccann,bravo, at least some one has the guts to say what a lot of people are thinking.more please uk veiwer, london,

    * This is the first time I read an unbiased report about the McCanns in the British press. Congrats on your courage.swifty, Lisbon, PT

    * Thank you Jan for your article concerning Mr McCann. It is like a breath of fresh air and I for one hope we can have more of your input on this subject in the future.Stella, Kent, UK

    * great article about gerry mccann, m, manchester

    * Well written article, I too would like to hear more. The bit about the red carpet summed up my feelings when watching them in news pieces and documentaries.Jennifer, Huddersfield UK

    * To echo the sentiments already expressed - Bravo!
    What a breath of fresh air to read such insightful and well thought opinions. The other sycophants in journalism will hopefully follow your lead with regards to Gerry McCann. BrainFreeze, England

    * At last an article that says it like it is. The British public are longing for their journalists to dig beneath the surface and show some grit. More of the same and I might begin buying papers again. Well done Jan Moir! P Lane, Oxford, UK

    * About time we had an article that's not fawning over Gerry. Well done! Great article. My faith in the British press is being restored.kellyanna, GA US

    * Well done Jan Moir !! Your article on Gerry McCann and his complaints was the first balanced piece I`ve have seen over the last two years of McCann media reporting. Its so lovely to see a piece that wasn`t generated by Clarence Mitchell for a change !! Macy, Redhill

    * Well said, Jan, and it's high time somebody said it. The Famous Grouse, Scotland

    * Ah, at long last. The journalists begin to see the light and give us something decent to read. Newspaper sales should rise if this continues. Thank You very much for this article. sharon, RCT

    * Great piece about G McCann...you said what most are thinking...well done! Kayla, Fermanagh NI,

    * Thank you Jan for stating in print what many of us would like to about Mr McCann and his hypocrisy - the Press were not responsible for Madeleine's disappearance.Ellen, Leics

    * Well done Jan. That was the best article I have read in 2 years about Gerry McCann. I have been waiting on a male reporter, looks like they have none ..Bravo Bravo Bravo Jan lori, Belfast

    * Thanks for this interesting article about Gerry McCann. Many people, I am sure, will agree wholeheartledly with you.Judy, Barrow-in-Fruness, Cumbria,

    * Excellent article about Gerry McCann. Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria,

    * At last someone who has the courage to say what so many of us are feeling about Mr. McCann. Thank you Ms Moir. Carole, bucks,

    * Great piece of writing Jan. It seems to be a rare thing these days for a journalist to have the courage to tell it like it is and reflect what the majority of ordinary people are thinking. More please!!! Might even start buying papers again if you can keep this up! Ruth, Wales,

    * Your comments on Gerry McCann are spot on. Finally someone has the courage to tell it like it is. He and his wife are the ones who invited the press in the first place, hired a spokesman and courted the media like movie stars.Veronica Russell, Vancouver Canada,

    * "pugnacious" - what a well chosen word. Lou, Paris,

    * Well done Jan. Glad to see some decent reporting on the McCann case. More of the same please.
    Beau, Oxford England


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    Sukowoensdag 25 maart 2009 @ 20:34
    Ook The Independent maakt melding van de nieuwe oproep in Praia da Luz van The McCanns, zoals te verwachten, alle Britse kranten beppen elkaar na of plaatsen zonder nadenken de brabbels van hun PR-man Clarence Mitchell. Interessanter is, dat eerst de Daily Mail alle ktitische commentaren plaatsten (en die staan er nog steeds!), en nu ook dus deze krant. Edoch, ze zijn allemaal verwijderd. The independent durft niet....ha ha! Maar door slimme 3 arguido's-posters bewaard en online gezet. Zoals op deze site. Echt, het publiek, en niet alleen in de UK, raakt al meer geirriteerd door het gedrag van de McCanns en dienaangaande de minachting van de Praia da Luz-bewoners, alsof zij iets te verbergen hebben, niks willen zeggen. Of zou het Freudiaans zelfreflectie zijn, anderen verwijten wat ze zelf aan gedrag vertonen?????
    kahaarindinsdag 31 maart 2009 @ 10:12
    quote:
    Op woensdag 25 maart 2009 20:34 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Ook The Independent maakt melding van de nieuwe oproep in Praia da Luz van The McCanns, zoals te verwachten, alle Britse kranten beppen elkaar na of plaatsen zonder nadenken de brabbels van hun PR-man Clarence Mitchell. Interessanter is, dat eerst de Daily Mail alle ktitische commentaren plaatsten (en die staan er nog steeds!), en nu ook dus deze krant. Edoch, ze zijn allemaal verwijderd. The independent durft niet....ha ha! Maar door slimme 3 arguido's-posters bewaard en online gezet. Zoals op deze site. Echt, het publiek, en niet alleen in de UK, raakt al meer geirriteerd door het gedrag van de McCanns en dienaangaande de minachting van de Praia da Luz-bewoners, alsof zij iets te verbergen hebben, niks willen zeggen. Of zou het Freudiaans zelfreflectie zijn, anderen verwijten wat ze zelf aan gedrag vertonen?????
    Zou maar zo eens kunnen Suko, niet alleen de Britse pers is dingen aan het verwijderen:
    quote:
    Madeleine McCann Spotted In Portugal


    MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann…

    Meanwhile, back in Portugal…

    In The News: “Madeleine appeal posters torn down in Portugal”

    Posters appealing for information regarding the whereabouts of missing girl Madeleine McCann have been torn down in the area of Portugal where she disappeared.

    Why?

    Madeleine was three years old when she went missing from the family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007.

    Such is the fact.

    The family have recently launched a fresh appeal for members of the public based in the area to come forward with any information they may have relating to her disappearance.

    The campaign has been arranged to coincide with the second anniversary of the date Madeleine went missing, May 3rd.

    How long will this be news for?

    Sky News: “New Madeleine Posters Torn Down In Anger”

    A new appeal for information was launched this week but some residents on the Algarve have reacted angrily to the move.

    Ana Palma, a reporter for the Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha, said: “We went to Praia da Luz trying to find the posters but most of the small ones had been removed, there were only five or six left. We then started to ask people what had happened and they told us they are tired of this. They feel they and their businesses have been harmed and they want closure.”


    They want to forget.

    Daily Telegraph:

    Around 10,000 leaflets are being handed out and posted through letterboxes in Praia da Luz and the nearby towns of Lagos and Burgau.

    The Algarve campaign is being backed by billboards, posters and advertising on local buses.

    ShinyTV: “TV Scoop Interview: Charlie Brooker, Newswipe”

    MG: So you’re reviewing the format as opposed to the stories?
    CB: We will be covering those topics… but I’m looking at how it’s shown to us, if you see what I mean?

    The news as entertainment - but it already is?

    MG: You did something similar on Screenwipe with the Madeleine McCann thing… is it going to be like that?
    CB: That kind of area… but we will be explaining the stories as well I hope. I suppose the main difference between what we’re doing and say, for want of a better term, a Radio 4 political satire, is that they know what they’re talking about whereas I come from a position where… I think I’m like most people… I’m not actually very well informed…

    Madeleine McCann is still missing… And, like most people, that is all we know…
    Natuurlijk niet zo vreemd, het politie en justitie apparaat daar is tot op de grond afgebrand, door ouders die 3 kinderen alleen hebben gelaten en zijn gaan feesten. Maar goed, de inheemsen komen in opstand, zal tijd worden.
    Sukodinsdag 31 maart 2009 @ 19:36
    Hoi kahaarin, ha ha, ja inderdaad, bewoners aldaar zijn de McCanns goed zat. Zo onderhand staat hele dorp onder verdenking, want zo voelen ze dat. En niet te vergeten de toeristenindustrie, dat mag dan wel geen rol spelen als het een 'vermist' kind betreft maar onderhand wordt het wel een spookdorp, of is dat ook de bedoeling??? Journalist Duarte Levy heeft een interessant stukje over de McCanns afgescheiden, ze 'denken' er over terug te keren naar Praia da Luz, ja ja, oh wacht ff, er liggen nog wat vragen op Kate te wachten! Komt dat ff goed uit!
    McCanns want to return to television
    quote:
    With little over a month to go for the second anniversary of the disappearance of Maddie, the little English girl that went missing in Praia da Luz on the 3rd of May 2007, her parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, are once again negotiating a television interview, during which they expect to launch a new public appeal, according to a source close to the couple.

    According to the same source, the McCann couple’s interview would be recorded in England, but equally broadcast in our country, as there are contacts with a Portuguese television channel which, as usual, would be prepared to make a financial contribution to the fund that was created after Madeleine’s alleged abduction. Kate and Gerry McCann – as 24Horas had already reported – are equally considering the possibility of travelling into our country, to the Algarve, to mark the second anniversary of their daughter’s disappearance and to reinforce the campaign that is presently being carried out in the area of Praia da Luz and its surroundings.

    The announcement of a television interview with the couple has even surprised the British professionals in the sector, as earlier this month, Madeleine’s father had issued violent criticism against the work of English and Portuguese journalists, in front of a parliamentary commission. After refusing to cooperate with the PJ in the official inquest into their daughter’s disappearance, Kate and Gerry, already as arguidos, abandoned Portugal with the assistance of diplomatic representatives of the United Kingdom in our country. An escape that was recorded and broadcast live by various television channels.

    The McCanns stopped being arguidos when the Public Ministry decided to archive the process, which currently awaits better evidence, after Gonçalo Amaral left and the process was handed over to Paulo Rebelo, who did nothing to pursue the line of inquiry that had been opened in the first months of the investigation, as the PJ’s final report proves.

    Several diligences remained to be carried out, including the reconstitution of the gestures and movements of the nine English adults who accompanied Maddie in Praia da Luz and who, according to their own statements to Portuguese and British authorities, were always very contradictory. Several Spanish, English and Irish witnesses were never heard in the process.

    Duarte Levy
    kahaarindonderdag 2 april 2009 @ 13:53
    quote:
    Op dinsdag 31 maart 2009 19:36 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Hoi kahaarin, ha ha, ja inderdaad, bewoners aldaar zijn de McCanns goed zat. Zo onderhand staat hele dorp onder verdenking, want zo voelen ze dat. En niet te vergeten de toeristenindustrie, dat mag dan wel geen rol spelen als het een 'vermist' kind betreft maar onderhand wordt het wel een spookdorp, of is dat ook de bedoeling??? Journalist Duarte Levy heeft een interessant stukje over de McCanns afgescheiden, ze 'denken' er over terug te keren naar Praia da Luz, ja ja, oh wacht ff, er liggen nog wat vragen op Kate te wachten! Komt dat ff goed uit!
    McCanns want to return to television


    Hey Suko, tja, je kunt het de bewoners van PDL ook niet kwalijk nemen, de naam van hun stad zal altijd verbonden blijven aan Madeleine ben ik bang. Ik denk niet dat Kate nog weer terug gaat naar Portugal, we zullen zien. Leuk artikel, heb je Anorak gezien? Madonna heeft haar!
    quote:
    Madonna Adopts Madeleine McCann


    IN the Belfast Telegraph Gail Walker is making an honest fist at linking Madeleine McCann to a current news story, in this instance Madonna’s attempt to secure another child.

    Merry James: Ten Bizarre Facts About Madonna And Child

    The problem is that more youngsters Madonna hangs out with, the older she looks. She might prefer to adopt a few pensioners, or Old Mr Anorak.

    Why all this moral fingerpointing about Madonna’s wish to adopt a second child from Malawi?

    Fair enough, she’s a global megastar. Fair enough, she’s only recently dumped ‘our own’ Guy Ritchie — the chap who for a while gave us rights of ownership to ‘Madge’ — and that brought her domestic arrangements into focus once again.

    David Banda Leaves

    Ready..?

    But really we had all this last time round, with the adoption of her son David. The reaction then was particularly venomous, with the little boy hunted from the airport to his front door with the same hysterical mania as if he’d actually been Madeleine McCann.

    Merry James - not Grace, the child who melted Madonna’s heart?

    And anyone seen Jessica Kondanani?

    Madonna filed adoption papers for David Banda on October 10, 2006. Madeleine McCann went missing on 3 May 2007.

    Had Madonna appeared with Madeleine McCann back then, would we have noticed?

    Madonna held her ground then, with her usual disdain for whatever drivel the media can serve up about her.

    Drivel. At least Gail Walker is objective…
    Sukozaterdag 4 april 2009 @ 14:13
    En wat hier van te denken, Gerry Mccan is in Portugal, al fimend met ITV, een soort van reconstructie of zo, er zijn ook nog anderen, wie wordt niet gemeld:
    quote:
    Gerry McCann is in Praia da Luz
    Duarte Levy Wordpress and 24horas

    Duarte Levy
    April 4, 2009 • 7:20 am

    A month before the second anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance, Gerry McCann, the little English girl's father, arrived yesterday evening at Lisbon airport for a 48-hour visit.

    During his stay, Gerry McCann will follow the filming of a "kind of" mini reconstitution of what allegedly happened on the night that Maddie disappeared. The filming is made by ITV, that intends to record a documentary and counts on a group of actors who will play the roles of the nine British citizens: Kate, Gerry McCann and the other members of the Tapas group.

    According to the couple's spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, Madeleine's father allegedly also comes to follow the couple's ongoing private investigations on the terrain.

    "Gerry is not going to meet the PJ or any member of the Portuguese authorities", Clarence told 24horas.

    The couple's spokesman, now also working for a communications and public relations company, further promised that during Gerry's visit to Praia da Luz, the media would be offered "relevant news" concerning the search for Maddie.

    Clarence Mitchell refused to confirm or deny the presence of private investigators in Praia da Luz, but 24horas knows that during last week, while the campaign was ongoing, at least two former members of the English police visited the locations where supposedly Maddie was abducted from.

    As 24horas had published already, Gerry McCann returned to Portugal alone because "Kate is not ready yet".

    Yesterday evening, Maddie's father travelled directly to the Algarve, after being greeted by members of the British embassy, who awaited him on his arrival.

    Clarence Mitchell confirmed to 24horas that "just like Gerry had announced a few weeks ago, during his first visit, this is just one more visit", and other visits are scheduled, with "the purpose of searching for Maddie", according to the couple's spokesman.

    PJ follows Gerry's visit to the Algarve

    A source at the Polícia Judiciária in Portimão confirmed that Maddie's father's visit to our country is being watched closely, yet lamented that the couple didn't carry it out at "the time when the inquiry demanded it".

    The population of Praia da Luz, which is upset by the campaign that has been carried out in that area of the Algarve, fails to understand the visit's purpose: "They did nothing to help the police and ended up fleeing this place like criminals", Rui Macedo told 24horas, adding that "they won't rest until they destroy our region".

    But Gerry McCann isn't the only one returning to Portugal, as 24horas was able to establish that several other persons who intervened in the Maddie case are in our country at the moment.
    Ondertussen denkt Martin Brunt (Sky misdaadverslaggever) dat DE oplossing wel in Luz moet liggen, dat kan je op vele manieren 'lezen.' Bewoners. zoals bekend, willen er niks meer van weten, na twee jaar is dit alles veel te laat en funest voor het dorp.

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    kahaarindonderdag 16 april 2009 @ 16:31
    Hmmm, het Europese continent is uitgeput van de hele zooi dus gaan ze maar naar de USA:
    quote:
    The parents of Madeleine McCann will appear on the Oprah Winfrey show next month to mark the second anniversary of their daughter's disappearance.

    Oprah asked Kate and Gerry McCann, both 40, to appear on the show immediately after Madeleine's disappearance, but they declined.

    "It was felt, in the immediate aftermath of Madeleine's disappearance, that a celebrity-based show was not the image they wished to put forward," said their spokesman Clarence Mitchell.

    "But life has moved on and it is now felt it will benefit the search."

    The one-hour special will include footage filmed of Mr and Mrs McCann at their home in Rothley, Leicestershire, and at the Washington-based National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children.

    The centre has produced computer imagery of how Madeleine would have aged over the last two years.

    She was three when she disappeared from her parents' villa in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3rd 2007.

    "Kate and Gerry see the show as a very important opportunity to reach a global audience and it's a significant step in the hunt for Madeleine," Mr Mitchell continued.

    "It's seen by millions in the US and worldwide and they hope these pictures will lead to the crucial sighting that will bring their daughter home."
    Natuurlijk, een belangrijke stap in de zoektocht naar Maddy en een kans de hele wereld te berijken....
    Sukodonderdag 16 april 2009 @ 22:23
    Zucht...ha ha. Jep, the show must go on, er lijkt geen weg terug. Ondertussen is van beide kanten een docu gemaakt, zie de bekende links:

    http://www.mccannfiles.com/id79.html
    Het transscript van Amaral's docu is hier te lezen: http://joana-morais.blogs(...)lie-documentary.html De docu van de McCanns (met acteurs, ook maddie) komt op de Britse tv.

    Amaral's boek komt deze maand uit in Nederland: http://www.bol.com/nl/p/boeken/maddie/1001004006421356/index.html
    kahaarinwoensdag 22 april 2009 @ 11:56
    Lol, een beetje het he said-they said verhaal, magoed, de Televaag heeft een nieuwe verdachte:
    quote:
    AMSTERDAM - In de verdwijningszaak rond Maddie wordt nu jacht gemaakt op een man die zich verdacht zou hebben gedragen rond het Portugese vakantieappartement van de McCanns, waaruit het meisje bijna twee jaar geleden verdween.

    Het toen bijna vierjarige Britse werd op 3 mei 2007 uit haar bedje gehaald terwijl haar ouders in een restaurant even verderop zaten te eten. Sindsdien is er geen spoor meer van het kind gevonden.

    Een getuige verklaart nu echter dat hij enkele dagen voor de ontvoering een man heeft gezien die zich verdacht zou hebben gedragen. Hij slenterde dagenlang alleen rond bij het vakantiehuisje in Praia da Luz. Hij zou daarbij regelmatig in de richting van het raam van de McCanns hebben gekeken.

    Volgens vader Gerry en moeder Kate kan de man cruciaal zijn in de oplossing naar de ontvoeringszaak. Hij zou een mediterraan uiterlijk hebben en tussen de 20 en 30 jaar oud zijn.
    Ook de reacties op Nu-jij zijn leuk.

    Het zou echt te erg zijn als blijkt dat deze persoon wel degelijk een verklaring afgelegd zou hebben en er blijkt dat dit ter zijde is geschoven. Dat de ouders berantwoordelijk zijn voor het creeren van de situatie staat bij mij als een paal boven water. Maar dat er dingen niet lekker zijn gelopen in het onderzoek ook, mede door de defensieve en terughoudende reactie van de ouders natuurlijk. We zullen zien wat er uit komt, het wachten is op yet another schets van de verdachte.
    Sukowoensdag 22 april 2009 @ 13:10
    Haaaaaaai Kahaarin. Ach hemeltje, alweer een verdachte opgeduikeld, het is 'm vast! Ondertussen gaan de McCanns naar Oprah Winfrey, Amaral wil ook wel, maar hij heeft nog niets gehoord. Kazluz (een Nederlander overigens) heeft van de dvd de telefoontjes gepeurd en een timeline gemaakt. Een allemachtig heidens karwei, een compliment waard! Reacties zijn hier te lezen. En verder hebben de McCanns zichzelf maar tot directeur van het fonds verklaard. Wel ja. Oja, waar is rijke stinkerd Brian Kennedy gebleven, je weet wel, de man die ze ten alle tijden met miljoenen zou ondersteunen???Of even op de achtergrond geschoven omdat er gestort moet worden... Topic.
    kahaarinwoensdag 22 april 2009 @ 13:24
    Hey Suko! Directeur van het fonds, ach ja, er moet toch iemand het geld beheren....
    Ik denk dat B.K. er tabak van heeft, we hebben al een hele poos niets van hem gehoord.
    quote:
    Op woensdag 22 april 2009 13:10 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Haaaaaaai Kahaarin. Ach hemeltje, alweer een verdachte opgeduikeld, het is 'm vast! Ondertussen gaan de McCanns naar Oprah Winfrey, Amaral wil ook wel, maar hij heeft nog niets gehoord. Kazluz (een Nederlander overigens) heeft van de dvd de telefoontjes gepeurd en een timeline gemaakt. Een allemachtig heidens karwei, een compliment waard! Reacties zijn hier te lezen. En verder hebben de McCanns zichzelf maar tot directeur van het fonds verklaard. Wel ja. Oja, waar is rijke stinkerd Brian Kennedy gebleven, je weet wel, de man die ze ten alle tijden met miljoenen zou ondersteunen???Of even op de achtergrond geschoven omdat er gestort moet worden... Topic.
    Hmmm, deze quote van de fam Smith is dan ineens weer wel belangrijk, dit werd toch afgedaan als zijnde wellicht niet Maddy en onwaarschijnlijk?
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    Approx. 21.55 pm The Smith Family, (4 adults and 5 children) are returning from 'Kelly's Bar', heading north, all spread out along the street and they pass a man walking down the middle of the street, carrying a child, with the head against his left shoulder and the arms hanging down alongside the body, in light colored or pink pyjamas, bare feet, pale skin typical of British and blond, shoulder-length hair; the girl is about 3-4 years old, about 1 metre tall. - The man is not dressed like a tourist; he's wearing cream or beige trousers, classic cut, of linen or cotton. He is white, 30-35 yrs, 1.70-1.80 meters tall, average build, physically fit, short, brown hair, with a face that looks tanned. (GA)
    De verdachte die werd aangewezen in het verhaal uit de telegraaf zou iets jonger zijn geweest maar de Smith familie heeft hen natuurlijk in het donker gezien toch?
    Sukowoensdag 22 april 2009 @ 17:54
    Ik meen me te herinneren dat het tijdstip van de Smith-familie niet klopte, rond die tijd zat Gerry McCann nog aan tafel. Aan de andere kant, die familie is 'bezocht' door de McCann-clan en is daarna niet meer verhoord, en waarom niet???? En verder is die verdachte van nu imo bull, geen aandacht aan besteden, gewoon doorlopen. Dat doen de McCanns tenslotte ook > McCanns On their Way to the US

    kahaarinwoensdag 22 april 2009 @ 18:34
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    Op woensdag 22 april 2009 17:54 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Ik meen me te herinneren dat het tijdstip van de Smith-familie niet klopte, rond die tijd zat Gerry McCann nog aan tafel. Aan de andere kant, die familie is 'bezocht' door de McCann-clan en is daarna niet meer verhoord, en waarom niet???? En verder is die verdachte van nu imo bull, geen aandacht aan besteden, gewoon doorlopen. Dat doen de McCanns tenslotte ook > McCanns On their Way to the US

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    Och ja dat is ook zo, hetgeen de McCanns verklaard hebben is de absolute tijdslijn, dat er ik weet niet hoeveel agenten en oplettende burgers (parkmedewerkers, buren in het resort e.d.) er anders over denken....

    triest dat ze naar de US gaan, echt, daar kun je toch geen winst halen behalve dollars?
    Sukowoensdag 22 april 2009 @ 19:21
    Yep, het ging en gaat nog steends om geld. Ik keek even op de site van Oprah Winfrey, er komen ook mensen die vertellen over veiligheid wat betreft kinderen e.d. Zie ook de commentaren...
    http://www.oprah.com/arti(...)ows-madeleine-mccann
    kahaarindonderdag 23 april 2009 @ 11:32
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    Op woensdag 22 april 2009 19:21 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Yep, het ging en gaat nog steends om geld. Ik keek even op de site van Oprah Winfrey, er komen ook mensen die vertellen over veiligheid wat betreft kinderen e.d. Zie ook de commentaren...
    http://www.oprah.com/arti(...)ows-madeleine-mccann
    Ik denk dat een boel joanna lezers daar nu zitten. En inderdaad, dat geld, ik ben wel blij dat er nu vooraf zoveel protesten zijn, het mooiste zou ik het vinden als het publiek gewoon wegloopt als de McCanns binnenkomen.
    Sukodonderdag 23 april 2009 @ 13:01
    Ja vast maar Amaral wordt iig niet uitgenodigd: " Despite the requests, the North American presenter only wants to dedicate the show to the McCanns. She even spent a day with Maddie’s parents and siblings in London." > Joana Daar hebben de McCanns ook een apartement, hadden ze die al?

    Ach weet je, Amerikanen weten niet half wat er speelt en men komt en kijkt naar Oprah, zij is de hoofdrolspeelster. Het is tenslotte show, entertainment weet je wel. Die getuige zoals The Sun beschreef, is overigens allang al ontmakerd: Maddie: “New suspect” is identified within the process. Duarte Levy Maar dat wisten we al, ouwe wijn in nieuwe zakken.
    kahaarindonderdag 23 april 2009 @ 13:21
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    Op donderdag 23 april 2009 13:01 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Ja vast maar Amaral wordt iig niet uitgenodigd: " Despite the requests, the North American presenter only wants to dedicate the show to the McCanns. She even spent a day with Maddie’s parents and siblings in London." > Joana Daar hebben de McCanns ook een apartement, hadden ze die al?

    Ach weet je, Amerikanen weten niet half wat er speelt en men komt en kijkt naar Oprah, zij is de hoofdrolspeelster. Het is tenslotte show, entertainment weet je wel. Die getuige zoals The Sun beschreef, is overigens allang al ontmakerd: Maddie: “New suspect” is identified within the process. Duarte Levy Maar dat wisten we al, ouwe wijn in nieuwe zakken.
    Ja dat snap ik wel, als Amaral erbij komt dan is het meteen hard tegen hard, de kans dat er nu iets boven tafel komt dat nieuw is, of ze praten zich voorbij, lijkt me groter dan wanneer Amaral er bij is. Over die getuige, ik weet het niet, als het die man wel is, des te beter, dan kunnen ze verder zoeken. Ik ben het spoor bijster op het moment, hoeveel getuigen hebben we al wel niet gezien/gehoord? *Retorische vraag* (om maar te zwijgen over de mogelijke verdachten.) Voor de zekerheid moeten ze alles maar eens goed uitzoeken.
    kahaarinzondag 26 april 2009 @ 16:12
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    Ze hadden het imho beter de Kate and Gerry show kunnen noemen. Dit zijn snippers uit een paar berichten, er zijn er nog veel meer, voor de liefhebbers: http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/?search=madeleine&searchheadlines=1

    Ongelofelijk dat er helemaal niet is gerefereerd aan de omstandigheden waaronder ze is verdwenen en de vreemde gang van zaken tijdens het onderzoek, de vragen die de PJ had en niet beantwoord zijn, Cuddly Cat, de sniffer dogs, de renault scenic, de tijdslijn die nog steeds niet helemaal zeker is vastgesteld, ga zo maar door. Dit is geen journalistiek of verslagleggen, dit is domweg mensen bang maken en Gerry & Kate portretteren als zielig. Je had gelijk Suko, dit is alleen maar een walgelijke poging om geld en sympathie los te weken, in die volgorde.

    Oprah is er in getrapt, jammer.
    Sukozondag 26 april 2009 @ 18:56
    Ja, dat was te voorspellen, als Oprah al in Londen op bezoek komt dan kun je niet verwachten dat er ook maar iets kritisch naar buiten komt. De vragen zijn bedacht, de tranen van Kate ook. Het is walgelijk, maar mogelijk is de val des te dieper als er toch twijfel is gezaaid, weet je veel. Ik zeg het nog maar eens, er liggen nog wat vragen voor Kate McCann in Portugal, zou ze ooit de moeite nemen die te beantwoorden, voor haar dochter bijvoorbeeld...
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    The 48 questions Kate refused to answer to help the search for her daughter, 07 September 2007
    THE 48 QUESTIONS KATE DIDN'T ANSWER

    1. On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?

    2. Did you search inside the bedroom wardrobe? (she replied that she wouldn’t answer)

    3. (shown 2 photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?

    4. Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (whose photo was shown to her) been tampered with? Did somebody go behind that sofa?

    5. How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected your daughter Madeleine’s disappearance?

    6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

    7. Assuming Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins home alone to go to the 'Tapas' and raise the alarm? Because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment.

    8. Why didn't you ask the twins, at that moment, what had happened to their sister or why didn’t you ask them later on?

    9. When you raised the alarm at the 'Tapas' what exactly did you say and what were your exact words?

    10. What happened after you raised the alarm in the 'Tapas'?

    11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

    12. Who contacted the authorities?

    13. Who took place in the searches?

    14. Did anyone outside of the group learn of Madeleine's disappearance in those following minutes?

    15. Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?

    16. What does 'we let her down' mean?

    17. Did Jane tell you that night that she’d seen a man with a child?

    18. How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?

    19. During the searches, with the police already there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?

    20. Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?

    21. Who did you phone after the occurrence?

    22. Did you call Sky News?

    23. Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?

    24. Did you ask for a priest?

    25. By what means did you divulge Madeleine's features, by photographs or by any other means?

    26. Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?

    27. What was your behaviour that night?

    28. Did you manage to sleep?

    29. Before travelling to Portugal did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?

    30. What was Madeleine's behaviour like?

    31. Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?

    32. What was Madeleine's relationship like with her brother and sister?

    33. What was Madeleine's relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?

    34. As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?

    35. What is your medical specialty?

    36. Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?

    37. Did you work every day?

    38. At a certain point you stopped working, why?

    39. Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?

    40. Is it true that sometimes you despaired with your children's behaviour and that left you feeling very uneasy?

    41. Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine's custody to a relative?

    42. In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?

    43. In the case files you were SHOWN CANINE forensic testing films, where you can see them marking due to detection of the scent of human corpse and blood traces, also human, and only human, as well as all the comments of the technician in charge of them. After watching and after the marking of the scent of corpse in your bedroom beside the wardrobe and behind the sofa, pushed up against the sofa wall, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    44. When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    45. When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    46. When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    47. When confronted with the results of Maddie's DNA, whose analysis was carried out in a British laboratory, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    48. Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter's disappearance?

    A QUESTION SHE DID ANSWER

    Q. Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardising the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?

    A. 'Yes, if that's what the investigation thinks.'
    En verder denkt Amaral dat Madeleine nog steeds in Prais da Luz is...

    “Madeleine is in Praia da Luz!”

    note* The DVD documentary based on Gonçalo Amaral book 'Maddie, The Truth of the Lie', broadcasted by TVI, which you can still watch here along with the English transcript. Ook hier trouwens.
    kahaarinmaandag 27 april 2009 @ 13:33
    Hi Suko!

    Ik denk dat Amaral gelijk heeft.
    Hopelijk niet natuurlijk, maar ik vrees van wel.
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    “Madeleine McCann died in apartment 5A and her body was concealed.”

    Maar goed, nog een beetje spin en tearjerken:
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    Two years after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, her parents are desperately trying to keep her name and image alive


    Date: 26 April 2009
    By Jeremy Watson
    THE beach is not busy, but it is healthily populated with spring sun-seekers lazing on the golden sands before the summer rush. The promenade-front bars and cafes hum with business as diners bask in the warmth of a late Algarve morning. The pretty fishing village of Praia da Luz is occupied with doing what it does best – providing holidaymakers from across Europe with a lazy vacation on one of the continent's most stunning coastlines.

    Only inside the picturesque white-painted Catholic church of Nossa Senhora Da Luz, now so familiar from thousands of TV news bulletins and newspaper photographs, is there any sign that two years ago next Sunday the small community, residents and visitors alike, were hit by a cataclysmic event from which it has not yet fully recovered.

    At the side of the altar is a poolside picture of Madeleine McCann, taken in the happy days before she disappeared from her resort bedroom on the evening of May 3. Lit by the reflected light flame of candles, it says simply: "Pray For Me."

    On Sunday, as he did last year on the first anniversary of her disappearance, Father Haynes Q Hubbard, senior chaplain of the church where Madeleine's doctor parents Kate and Gerry McCann came to seek solace in the long weeks after their daughter went missing just 10 days before her fourth birthday, will hold a second "service of hope" in both Portuguese and English.

    Haynes, understandably weary of fielding questions from journalists around the world, said last week it is the only thing he feels he can do: "We are doing it because nothing here has changed. It is two years on and Madeleine is still missing. But we should keep her memory alive."

    More than 700 days since Madeleine disappeared from an apartment at the Ocean Club and from beside her sleeping younger brother and sister while her parents ate with friends in a Tapas bar just yards away, an answer to the mystery is yet to be uncovered.

    This is despite one of the biggest searches for a missing child in history, involving hundreds of police and private detectives and an army of media from around the globe. No one involved in the case seems to be any wiser about what happened to Madeleine than they were in the minutes after she vanished, allegedly spirited away by an unknown abductor.



    This weekend, the couple are in the US to record a one-hour special interview with Oprah Winfrey to be broadcast on May 3. Kate and Gerry will be quizzed by the US TV star in front of a live audience as part of their global campaign to keep Madeleine's name and image alive and to persuade police forces around the world to adopt more streamlined methods for issuing alerts when a young child goes missing.

    Then, on May 7, Channel Four will broadcast a filmed reconstruction of the events of two years ago, in which 15 actors have been hired to play the parts of the principal characters. The crew and actors were given full access to the Mark Warner-run Ocean Club to make the film. A computer-enhanced image of what Madeleine could look like at age six has also been produced by forensic computer specialists used by the FBI to coincide with the broadcast. The angelic innocence remains along with the distinctive pigmentation stripe in her right eye that may, unfortunately, fade with age.

    So, in the past two years has the McCanns' campaign on improving child safety achieved any results? And how long can such a campaign be sustained in the face of dwindling cash reserves?

    In Praia da Luz, there is little open hostility to the McCanns, but feelings nevertheless run high among both the large expatriate community and local Portuguese residents who depend on tourism for a living. They feel that the media spotlight should be turned away from their village.

    One English bar owner who helped in the initial search for the three-year-old girl, but did not want his name used, said: "We have to move on. Of course, everyone still has sympathy for the family; no-one is indifferent to what happened. How could you be? But we don't want Praia to be evermore associated with what happened. This was a nice and safe place before she went missing and it is a nice, safe place now.

    "We all lost some business in the year after it happened and we did well to get through it. Our main problem now is the strength of the euro, so we don't really need any more negative publicity."

    Images of missing Madeleine are now hard to find in the town. "There are a couple of billboards out at the moment linked with the TV reconstruction, but that's about it."

    One sited on the main road into the village was defaced just one day after being erected. Paint was splattered across the poster and the Find Madeleine campaign number was obscured. When Gerry McCann visited earlier this month, along with Jane Tanner and Matthew Oldfield, two members of the 'Tapas Seven', to advise on the reconstruction, it was reported that Madeleine's father was heckled by former Ocean Club employees who had lost their jobs due to a downturn in trade.

    Concerns over money are also besetting the Find Madeleine campaign. On his first return visit to Praia da Luz since his and his wife's official "arguido" suspect status was lifted last year, Gerry McCann revealed that the fund was running out. Earlier this year, newspaper reports said the fund had dipped to £600,000.

    "There's still money in it," McCann said. "It won't dry up in the next few months, but probably by the end of the year at the rate we are running."

    The published accounts from last year detail where the money, swelled by a £550,000 libel payment from a group of British newspapers found to have defamed the couple and a £375,000 award to the Tapas Seven, has gone. In the first year, it includes £250,000 spent on private investigators, including the Madrid-based Metodo 3 agency, whose head claimed he would find Madeleine within three months.

    Another £133,000 went on campaign management at a time when the couple were being besieged by the world's media, largely spent on public relations advisers. Legal fees swallowed up £120,000, £88,000 went on posters and television and newspaper advertising. There were also the costs of the couple's travels to publicise their campaign for an improved child alerts system.

    What the couple want is for the Amber Alert system used widely in the United States to be introduced across Europe. Their supporters have been critical of the 12 hours it took for Portuguese police to alert Spanish border officials located just two hours away by road that Madeleine was missing.

    The system was introduced in the mid-1990s after the horrific capture and murder of a young Texan girl. Once police are alerted that a child has vanished, the details of the child are sent immediately to broadcasters and flashed up on motorway signs. It has been credited with saving the lives of around 400 children.

    The McCanns lobbied the European parliament to introduce Amber Alert in Europe. Although the EU failed to order a union-wide system, it recommended member states to set up their own systems. France, Greece and, earlier this month, Ireland, have agreed to set up national Amber Alert systems, but, in the UK, the decision has been left to individual police forces.

    For the McCanns, the EU recommendation was at least step forward in the absence of any information about Madeleine herself. Spokesman Clarence Mitchell, putting the best gloss he could on the EU decision, said: "Whether it is a centralised system or individual national alerts, all Kate and Gerry want to see is better and quicker cooperation between countries.

    "When a child goes missing, every minute counts. Kate and Gerry will continue to push for the best possible alert system for children. How that happens is something for ministers to agree on."

    Next weekend, the McCanns are expected to mark the anniversary at home in Rothley, Leicestershire, in private with their now four-year-old twins Sean and Amelie. Back in Praia da Luz, in the church where prayers have been said for centuries for missing fishermen, Father Hubbard is expected to once again read out Kate's message of hope that one day her daughter will be found. At 9.15pm, a new candle will be lit at the time her parents believe she vanished. "We continue to hope because there is nothing to the contrary," he said. "The only thing we can do is hold hands, weep and pray."

    Where are they now?

    Robert Murat

    Employed by the Portuguese police at the scene as a translator, this property consultant who lived close with his mother to the Ocean Club was given "arguido" – official suspect – status by investigators. The status was revoked and Murat, 35, sued newspapers for £600,000 libel damages.

    Goncalo Amaral

    Amaral was the senior investigating officer but was turfed off the case after alleging Madeleine's parents were involved. Last year, he brought out his version of events in a book, The Truth Of The Lie, which was not published in English but has reportedly sold thousands of copies on the continent. He claims Madeleine died in a "tragic accident" in the apartment.

    Jane Tanner

    One of the 'Tapas Seven' whose testimony supports the theory that Madeleine was abducted. Tanner travelled to Praia da Luz this month to help with the reconstruction as she says she saw a barefoot girl being carried from the apartment but did not regard it as unusual at the time. Last year, she said: "I wake up to that image every day. I see him there, striding away, carrying Madeleine and I try desperately to remember more detail."
    kazluxdinsdag 28 april 2009 @ 17:24
    Hallo allemaal,

    de persvoorlichter van FMB uitgevers bevestigt dat Dr. Amaral zal twee dagen in Nederland zijn (4 en 5 mei) uitsluitend voor het geven van interviews.

    De vertaling van zijn boek 'A verdade de mentira' is in het Nederlands verschenen onder de titel 'Maddie - de waarheid achter de leugen' en vanaf heden verkrijgbaar bij bol.com: http://tinyurl.com/dcrvx8
    Sukodinsdag 28 april 2009 @ 18:57
    Ha DE Kazlux himself! Ik had je al eerder aangehaald ivm die geweldige timeline. Dat zet alles even in perspectief nav de verhoren. Ik neem af en toe een hapje op de bekende sites maar veel schot zit er niet in.Eigenlijk lees je alleen maar wat er niet is gebeurd/onderzocht, erg deprimerend. Zoals de achtergronden van David Payne, vermoedelijk pedo-neigingen (nav de getuigenissen van het artsenechtpaar) en zijn rol op de dag van de 'vermissing.' nooit onderzocht. Maar ergens hou ik in het achterhoofd dat eens de waarheid wordt verteld, one way or the other,

    Leuk dat Amaral naar Nederland komt, hopelijk is de pers ook ruim aanwezig.

    Hooooi, Kahaarin, lang stuk in The Scotsman, maar ook even zoveel rubbisch, het is diezelfde krant die o.a. Gerry McCann nomineerde als Man van het Jaar. Nou dan weet je het wel.
    kazluxdinsdag 28 april 2009 @ 19:22
    Ha Suko ja hoor Kazlux herself

    Ja het kan ontmoedigend zijn, je HEBT van die dagen, zoals nu weer Peter Hill van de Daily Express die voor de Press Complaints Commission verklaarde, vanmiddag, dat hij ook niet wist dat de Policia Judiciaria 'Ruritanian tinpot idiots' waren. De vrienden in Portugal zijn weer woedend, dat snap je.

    Het maken van die timelines, daar vrolijk ik altijd weer van op. Zoveel rare dingen op een rijtje, en niks wat IK verzin, alles directe quotes of verklaringen, dan weet ik weer: o ja.
    En natuurlijk altijd Eddie en Keela, mijn helden (jammer, geen hond-smiley).
    Sukodinsdag 28 april 2009 @ 19:36
    Oh, sorry, je bent een vrouwtje, ha ha. Amazing dat je nog de interesse kan opbrengen. Oh, is het bashen naar de Portugezen weer begonnen, is daar een reden voor zou je kunnen denken....Zo'n timeline kan inderdaad verhelderend werken, iedereen is dan ook weer stom verbaasd, ook ik. Die snuffelhonden, ook niet serieus genomen, ongelofelijk dat ze daar nog mee wegkomen ook nog. Ja wel, qua smiley's' qua hondjes:

    +

    kahaarinwoensdag 29 april 2009 @ 11:13
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    Op dinsdag 28 april 2009 19:22 schreef kazlux het volgende:
    Ha Suko ja hoor Kazlux herself

    Ja het kan ontmoedigend zijn, je HEBT van die dagen, zoals nu weer Peter Hill van de Daily Express die voor de Press Complaints Commission verklaarde, vanmiddag, dat hij ook niet wist dat de Policia Judiciaria 'Ruritanian tinpot idiots' waren. De vrienden in Portugal zijn weer woedend, dat snap je.

    Het maken van die timelines, daar vrolijk ik altijd weer van op. Zoveel rare dingen op een rijtje, en niks wat IK verzin, alles directe quotes of verklaringen, dan weet ik weer: o ja.
    En natuurlijk altijd Eddie en Keela, mijn helden (jammer, geen hond-smiley).
    hey hallo! leuk om je hier ook te zien. Wat ontzettend veel werk zit er in die timeline, bedankt!
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    Op dinsdag 28 april 2009 19:36 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Oh, sorry, je bent een vrouwtje, ha ha. Amazing dat je nog de interesse kan opbrengen. Oh, is het bashen naar de Portugezen weer begonnen, is daar een reden voor zou je kunnen denken....Zo'n timeline kan inderdaad verhelderend werken, iedereen is dan ook weer stom verbaasd, ook ik. Die snuffelhonden, ook niet serieus genomen, ongelofelijk dat ze daar nog mee wegkomen ook nog. Ja wel, qua smiley's' qua hondjes:

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    Portugezen bashen is volgens mij alleen maar een teken van zwakte.
    Of om de zaak weer op de radar te krijgen voor dit soort acties:
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    NEW DRIVE IN HUNT FOR MADELEINE


    MISSING: Madeleine McCann

    Wednesday April 29,2009
    By Padraic Flanagan


    Madeleine McCann’s parents told yesterday how they take hope from cases of abducted children being found alive years after they were snatched.


    Kate and Gerry McCann said the ordeals suffered by child captives such as Austrian Natascha Kampusch and Americans Elizabeth Smart and Shawn Hornbeck show that youngsters can survive even after they go “off radar” for years.

    The couple, both doctors from Rothley, Leics, have launched a push to trace Madeleine through the internet by using social networking sites like Facebook.

    The pair have also opened a hotline and web portal for anonymous tip-offs from people who may have information about who took Madeleine.

    The move comes after heart specialist Gerry launched a poster campaign in the Praia da Luz area on Portugal’s Algarve coastline where she vanished on May 3, 2007.

    To coincide with the second anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance, a Portuguese language version of the “Find Madeleine” website has been created.

    Gerry, 40, and his wife Kate, 41, said the search for their daughter is focusing on Portugal because residents “have never been properly asked about the information they may have to give”.

    The couple were interviewed at the weekend by US chat show host Oprah Winfrey for a show to be broadcast on Monday to mark the second anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance. They made an emotional appeal for information on their daughter, whose sixth birthday is next month. In a statement on their website the McCanns said: “As the second anniversary of Madeleine’s abduction approaches, there is much still to be done.

    “We continue to remain focused on our aim – to find Madeleine and bring her back home safely.
    Dus Gerry launched de postercampagne alleen, interesting.

    [ Bericht 36% gewijzigd door kahaarin op 29-04-2009 11:18:49 ]
    Sukowoensdag 29 april 2009 @ 20:05
    Hoooooooooooooi Kahaarin, Gerry doet tegenwoordig alles in z'n uppie, nou behalve Oprah dan, dat wilde Kate natuurlijk niet missen! Ook met die docu in Luz opgenomen, een stand-in heeft de rol van Kate (bang???) gespeeld.

    En verder geloofd geen journalist in Portugal en natuurlijk Amaral het verhaal van de McCanns: Nobody believes that Maddie is alive

    * Júlia Pinheiro, TVI talk show host “A domestic tragedy”
    * Pedro Mourinho, SIC journalist “A big fat lie”
    * Fátima Campos Ferreira, RTP journalist “I believe that she has passed away by now”
    * Paulo Sargento, forensic psychologist “I don’t believe the abduction theory”
    * Gonçalo Amaral, former PJ coordinator “The little girl died on location”

    Wij ook niet... Woef!
    Sukovrijdag 1 mei 2009 @ 13:08
    De docu vsn Amaral, nu met Engelse ondertiteling, en natuurlijk....niet vertoond in de UK.

    The documentary the McCanns don't want you to see
    kahaarinvrijdag 1 mei 2009 @ 13:43
    quote:
    Op vrijdag 1 mei 2009 13:08 schreef Suko het volgende:
    De docu vsn Amaral, nu met Engelse ondertiteling, en natuurlijk....niet vertoond in de UK.

    The documentary the McCanns don't want you to see
    Wow, heftig, dit lijkt idd meer geloofwaardig dan wat de McConns en consorten ons willen doen geloven.

    Hier is een mening van een expert, volgens mij hebben wij zoiets ook al eens geopperd:
    quote:
    Madeleine probably snatched after going in search of her parents, says expert

    Published Date: 01 May 2009
    Madeleine McCann was probably abducted after walking out of her holiday flat in search of her parents, an expert on her disappearance says.


    Criminologist Mark Williams-Thomas said today that it was unlikely an abductor entered apartment 5a at the Ocean Club in Praia Da Luz, Portugal.

    The former detective said Madeleine was probably snatched by an opportunistic paedophile as she looked for her parents as they ate with friends at a nearby tapas bar.

    He said publicly-available evidence leads him to believe the three-year-old arranged her toys on her bed and left through the unlocked patio door.

    Mr Williams-Thomas said the case bears striking similarities to the murder of Sarah Payne, who was snatched from a West Sussex field nine years ago.

    He said: "Is it unreasonable to presume that Madeleine woke up and then went in search of her parents at a restaurant within a holiday complex that she had grown familiar with over the course of her holiday?

    "Neatly tucking up her toys – as her parents had done to her – she slipped out of the apartment through an insecure patio door.

    "This seems all the more credible given what we know happened to eight-year-old Sarah Payne, who was abducted in July 2000 even though she was only out of sight of her family for a matter of seconds."


    Mr Williams-Thomas has made his comments after reviewing more than 10,000 documents amassed by Portuguese police during their investigation. He said an abductor would not have arranged the toys on the bed as he would have wanted to escape as quickly as possible.

    The expert said a paedophile may have also chosen to take one of the younger and more defenceless twins, Sean and Amelie, sleeping nearby.

    Mr Williams-Thomas said: "Based on the evidence provided from within the case files it is more likely that she was abduc-ted after she had left the apartment. A number of factors sugg-est that this is the likely scenario."

    Parents Gerry and Kate McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, will mark the second anniversary of her disappearance this weekend.

    They said the search for Madeleine continues with the "same strength and determination" and they are convinced someone knows where she is.

    The McCanns have been left to co-ordinate their own inquiry after the Portuguese police investigation was closed.

    Mr Williams-Thomas criticised several aspects of the Portuguese investigation, including botched searches and a complete failure to secure the crime scene.

    He said reliance on evidence of dogs trained to detect dead bodies was "significant and damaging", leading police to mistakenly focus on the McCanns.

    The couple were made suspects, or arguidos, as a result of ambiguous evidence from specially-trained British dogs and their handlers, he said.

    And he said Portuguese authorities must act to register known paedophiles.
    Mark Williams-Thomas, a Criminologist & Child Protection Expert

    Mark has a very diverse and interesting background, as a high profile ex-police detective, broadcaster, media police advisor and since 2005 his own Child Protection & Crisis Management Consultancy - WT Associates Ltd


    En dan dit, Daily Star dus schep zout paraat:
    quote:
    COPS FAILED TO PROBE £1M MADDIE RANSOM

    Police hunting Madeleine McCann ignored a £1million ransom demand from a man who said he had her, a shock report claimed last night.

    The man asked for the money in a call to a staff member at the Portuguese holiday apartment where the four-year-old was last seen nearly two years ago.

    He left the message on a phone belonging to a worker at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz – with a child’s voice speaking English in the background.


    Police put a trace on the phone but the caller never rang back.

    The bombshell was revealed yesterday in a new report by criminologist Mark Williams-Thomas, a former UK detective who has worked on the case since Maddie vanished on May 3, 2007. “The demand was received via a voicemail,” he said. “Although an intercept was placed on the line, no further calls were received.”

    Mr Williams-Thomas believes Madeleine was snatched after waking in the apartment and going to look for her parents.

    But his report concludes that the girl is probably now dead.

    He has sent the report to Madeleine’s parents Kate, 41, and Gerry, 40, of Rothley, Leics, who last night declined to
    comment.
    Sukovrijdag 1 mei 2009 @ 19:19
    Ohw, ik lees geen Engelse kranten meer, ze weigeren ook maar iets kritiisch te schrijven over de McCanns, ik word kotsmisselijk van al dat geslijm en het klakkeloos overnemen van de bedenksel van dat roze geval, Mitchell. Interessant is wel verder dat Oprah Winfrey het heeft over "vanished' en niet over 'abducted'...

    The Promo: Oprah being fooled by the McCanns? Maar het blijft volgens de berichten een McCanns-show. Mijn interesse zakt weer danig, dat geteut gaat nog wel even door vrees ik.
    Sukovrijdag 1 mei 2009 @ 19:31
    Oja over die Mark Williams-Thomas, die is inmiddels voor zichzelf begonnen, Beachy heeft een paar interessante vragen voor hem...

    An Open Letter to Mark Williams-Thomas Onder andere deze vraag is relevant: "(9) You probably also know this, but I am not the only person who does not agree with your theory. The public prosecutor's office in Portimao, Portugal, which made the decision to archive the case, stated in its assessment of the evidence that in addition to there being no evidence of abduction, they were archiving the case as a "homicide." Whilst homicide does not necessarily imply murder, it does mean that someone was killed by someone else. A homicide without an abduction would seem to imply that someone killed Madeleine in apartment 5A. Who do you think did it, Mark?"
    Sukowoensdag 6 mei 2009 @ 11:38
    Portugese inspecteur schrijft boek over Maddie
    Publicatie: 05/05/09 22:32 Laatst gewijzigd: 05/05/09 22:55 Gonzalo Amaral heeft een spraakmakend boek geschreven over de verdwijning van de Engelse kleuter Madeleine McCann.

    De Portugese hoofdinspecteur die het politie-onderzoek naar de zaak leidde, schrijft daarin dat Maddie dood is en beschouwt Maddie’s ouders nog steeds als verdachten. Hoewel het onderzoek naar het meisje vorig jaar werd gestaakt, houdt de zaak de inspecteur nog altijd bezig. En zijn boek, dat nu in Nederland uit is, is zo omstreden, dat in Engeland niemand het durft uit te geven. Hart van Nederland

    Ook een artikel (transcript) van Kazlux, inclusief een filmpje/interview met Amaral.

    * Reacties op het 3 Arguidos-forum

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    kahaarinwoensdag 6 mei 2009 @ 12:30
    quote:
    Op woensdag 6 mei 2009 11:38 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Portugese inspecteur schrijft boek over Maddie
    Publicatie: 05/05/09 22:32 Laatst gewijzigd: 05/05/09 22:55 Gonzalo Amaral heeft een spraakmakend boek geschreven over de verdwijning van de Engelse kleuter Madeleine McCann.

    De Portugese hoofdinspecteur die het politie-onderzoek naar de zaak leidde, schrijft daarin dat Maddie dood is en beschouwt Maddie’s ouders nog steeds als verdachten. Hoewel het onderzoek naar het meisje vorig jaar werd gestaakt, houdt de zaak de inspecteur nog altijd bezig. En zijn boek, dat nu in Nederland uit is, is zo omstreden, dat in Engeland niemand het durft uit te geven. Hart van Nederland

    Ook een artikel (transcript) van Kazlux, inclusief een filmpje/interview met Amaral.

    * Reacties op het 3 Arguidos-forum
    Hoi Suko, haha je was me net voor. Ik las het, niet helemaal de publiciteit die zij zoeken geloof ik.
    Sukowoensdag 6 mei 2009 @ 13:08
    Hooooooooooi Kahaarin! Nee, dat niet maar de McCanns hebben genoeg publiciteit gehad. Alle Engels bladen stonden dit weekend bol van de nieuwe reconstructiefoto van Madeleine en hoe moeilijk ze het weer hadden.



    De PR van Mitchell is een goed geoliede machine. Je begrijpt werkelijk niet waar de echte Engelse journalist is gebleven, wat een achterlijk westers land is de UK geworden. McCann-kritiek wordt niet geduld, laat staan gepubliceerd, om maar te zwijgen over het uitgeven van het boek van Amaral. Bij alle vragen die de McCanns hebben en de kritiek op het onderzoek, dan snap je toch echt niet waarom er geen verzoek tot heropening is geweest, maar nee, die termijn hebben ze gewoon laten overschrijden, er was geen reden toe, nee...nog steeds niet.

    McCanns have not demanded reopening of the process

    En verder schrijft Joana Morais nav een stukje uit het interview met Oprah Winfrey: "So why didn't the McCanns request for the reopening of the process, as it was their legal right to do so? Dat is hier te lezen.
    kahaarinwoensdag 6 mei 2009 @ 13:42
    quote:
    Op woensdag 6 mei 2009 13:08 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Hooooooooooi Kahaarin! Nee, dat niet maar de McCanns hebben genoeg publiciteit gehad. Alle Engels bladen stonden dit weekend bol van de nieuwe reconstructiefoto van Madeleine en hoe moeilijk ze het weer hadden.
    Tja, die foto's vind ik idd nog tot daar aan toe maar dat gezeur eromheen.....
    quote:
    De PR van Mitchell is een goed geoliede machine. Je begrijpt werkelijk niet waar de echte Engelse journalist is gebleven, wat een achterlijk westers land is de UK geworden. McCann-kritiek wordt niet geduld, laat staan gepubliceerd, om maar te zwijgen over het uitgeven van het boek van Amaral. Bij alle vragen die de McCanns hebben en de kritiek op het onderzoek, dan snap je toch echt niet waarom er geen verzoek tot heropening is geweest, maar nee, die termijn hebben ze gewoon laten overschrijden, er was geen reden toe, nee...nog steeds niet.

    McCanns have not demanded reopening of the process

    En verder schrijft Joana Morais nav een stukje uit het interview met Oprah Winfrey: "So why didn't the McCanns request for the reopening of the process, as it was their legal right to do so? Dat is hier te lezen.
    Nee, stel je nu eens voor dat ze wordt gevonden, dan is het circus voorbij.

    Dit vond ik dan wel weer positief:
    quote:
    Madeleine McCann: Oprah Winfrey Community Blames McCanns


    MADELEINE McCann Watch: Introducing Daniel Morcombe and Oprah’s online community point the finger at the McCanns…

    Brisbane Times: “’Keep searching’ Morcombes tell McCanns”

    The disappearances of Sunshine Coast teenager Daniel Morcombe and British toddler Madeleine McCann, who vanished in completely different circumstances and different time zones, have drawn together families both desperate for closure…

    One fact links the two: someone’s child is missing.

    Mr Morcombe said he and Denise had considered releasing a computer-generated image of Daniel, as he may look aged 19, but decided it was not relevant to his case.


    “As grave as it sounds, we think that it’s incredibly unlikely that Daniel is still alive. We don’t think that an (age-progressed) computer-generated image would help the investigation,” he said.

    Idaho Statesman: “McCanns to Winfrey: Madeleine is still alive”

    In a tearful interview with Oprah Winfrey that aired Monday, the parents of a British girl who disappeared two years ago from a Portuguese resort asked their daughter’s alleged abductor to “tell us where she is.”

    Does the Idaho Statesman not believe the McCanns? You can’t libel a namesless abductor, but you can lible the McCanns:


    Kate and Gerry McCann said on “The Oprah Winfrey Show” that they believe a man took their daughter, Madeleine, and she is still alive. The girl was almost 4 years old when she disappeared in May 2007.

    “It’s not too late to do the right thing,” Gerry McCann said when Winfrey asked the parents what they wanted to say to the person who took Madeleine.

    “You know, they can give her up, they can tell us where she is,” he said. “They can hand her over to a priest or someone in authority.”

    And Kate McCann?


    “This man is known to somebody,” she said. “He’s someone’s son, someone’s brother, someone’s cousin, someone’s neighbor, someone’s colleague, someone’s partner, so he’s known to someone. And even if these people don’t know that he definitely did it, they might have a suspicion, and it’s just, I guess, somehow reaching out to them and saying please come forward.”

    Facts. And now a few more facts from the good people at Oprah Winfrey’s community website:

    Note: Many of the comments on Oprah’s libel the McCanns and we will nto repeat them here.

    No she did not say that at all and the prime minister was not Gordon Brown at the time when Kate kept her diary, the prime minister was Tony Blair. Please adhere to the facts.

    Tony Blair actually rung Kate and Gerry and before you go making a big deal out of this, I know for certain that Tony Blair used to make a habit of ringing people he thought may need him and sometimes he would ring people completely out of the blue who had written to him, regardless of who they voted for – Diarubyem

    I am a mother of 3 grown boys. This story gave me nightmares even though I have kept up with it since it happened two years ago. I am appalled at the number of people who think these parents are guilty and have such anger and hatred toward them - loridushki

    And so after appearing on the Oprah Woinfery show, a news nation is watching the parents…

    And from Oprah’s staff, no mention of libel, just:

    The little girl who vanished from her family vacation. In their first interview in America, Madeleine McCann’s parents talk to Oprah. See what life is like now.

    So says “HARPOBear” - who delivers the Oprah Winfrey call to arms:

    Welcome to Oprah.com! Get inspired. Reach for your dreams. Feel empowered and energized every day to make choices that will lead to a happier, more fulfilling life. Be delighted. Grow. Connect. Give back. Live your life as if it really matters, because it does.


    The show is not to help in the hunt for the child. The show is about watching the parents and getting off on their pain. And playing armchair detective, engaging in debate over their innocence or guilt.

    It’s the kind of thing what many readers of Anorak send it - but we don’t post nearly all the commetns. We modertate.

    In any high-profile story, the publication walk a tightrope between trying to satisfy public hunger for information and staying within contempt laws.

    It is not “fair comment” to say the McCanns killed their daughter - its is speculation. It is libel. Libel. Libel. Tabloid TV, like the tabloid press, can do more harm than good.

    Ask Robert Murat.

    Madeleine McCann is missing - after two years, the Our Maddie show has become a circus…

    Did you see them with the Pope - “a British public spectacle; an emtional national experience”?

    Pull up a chair. Tissue or a red hot poker, sir, madam? Enjoy…
    Siggy82donderdag 7 mei 2009 @ 15:24
    Hier even een link http://www.kovandijkvertelt.nl/?p=3152

    Deze man volgt deze zaak ook al vanaf het begin en vind het toch altijd weer reuze interresant om zijn blogs te lezen over deze zaak.. Misschien al wel bekend bij jullie? maar wou het toch even delen..
    Ben ervan overtuigt dat de ouders een hele grote rol hebben gespeeld in dit drama..

    Ennuh nog wat info over de uitzending van oprah die hier in nederland word uitgezonden op:
    Maandag 11 mei 2009 om 17.40 rtl 8
    Herhaling om 23.30 uur rtl 8
    Dinsdag 12 mei 2009 herhaling om 15.05 uur rtl 4
    Sukodonderdag 7 mei 2009 @ 19:04
    quote:
    Op donderdag 7 mei 2009 15:24 schreef Siggy82 het volgende:
    Hier even een link http://www.kovandijkvertelt.nl/?p=3152

    Deze man volgt deze zaak ook al vanaf het begin en vind het toch altijd weer reuze interresant om zijn blogs te lezen over deze zaak.. Misschien al wel bekend bij jullie? maar wou het toch even delen..
    Ben ervan overtuigt dat de ouders een hele grote rol hebben gespeeld in dit drama..

    Ennuh nog wat info over de uitzending van oprah die hier in nederland word uitgezonden op:
    Maandag 11 mei 2009 om 17.40 rtl 8
    Herhaling om 23.30 uur rtl 8
    Dinsdag 12 mei 2009 herhaling om 15.05 uur rtl 4
    Ja, ik ken die site. Opvallend is dat hij, Ko dus, eerst de ouders onschuldig achtte maar compleet van mening is veranderd en inmiddels ook verwijst naar sites die wij hier ook kennen zoals deze. Bedankt voor die data maar of ik ga kijken is wat anders, hoeveel slijmerigheid kan een mens verdragen....

    @ Kahaarin, best wel een aardig stuk inderdaad, hoewel vet gemodereerd, wat ze zelf ook toegeven. Inmiddels gaat het circus gewoon door, met jawel, weer een nieuwe verdachte, includief tekening, komtie...



    McCanns show new ‘suspect’
    Als je er zo uitziet ben je sowieso verdacht!

    Zie ook de Daily Mail ,inclusief commentaren, als ze er nog staan tenminste.

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    Sukodonderdag 7 mei 2009 @ 22:12
    Sorry, moet even...hilarisch!



    (bron)
    kahaarinvrijdag 8 mei 2009 @ 11:12
    Er missen wel een paar verdachten.

    Oh en het spinnen gaat door:
    quote:
    The police chief who led the botched investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann yesterday finally admitted Portuguese police bungled the job.

    Goncalo Amaral said: Its true. At the time there was no set procedure for a missing child. The crime scene was not well looked after.

    He also admitted a reconstruction should have quickly been organised. Madeleine was three when she vanished from her parents holiday apartment in Praia de Luz two years ago last Sunday.

    Retired Amaral, 49, moved off the inquiry after five months, is now plugging a new book in France and demanding cash for interviews.
    In an article published in Le Parisien newspaper yesterday, he accused Madeleines parents Kate and Gerry of covering up the truth despite the fact they were officially cleared by Portuguese police last July.
    Sukozaterdag 9 mei 2009 @ 12:17
    Tjonge, als de Britse pers niks meer weet dan halen ze oud nieuws boven water...sneu.

    ----------------------------------

    Anyway, een intrigerende observatie van Nigel Moore van mccanfiles. De Smithjes beweren Gerry McCann te hebben gezien die nacht, met Madeleine in z'n armen. Die bewering zit natuurlijk de McCanns dwars dus waarom niet een getuige verzinnen die ergerns op Gerry lijkt maar door z'n lelijkheid uitsluiten dat het Gerry is, how clever!

    'Ugly Man': Produced to marry with the Smith family sighting?, 09 May 2009



    Nigel Moore
    09 May 2009
    quote:
    We now know that the 'Ugly Man', who found himself suddenly splashed across the front pages of many UK newspapers, had already been positively identified by the PJ and eliminated as having no relevance to the inquiry. He is even named in the PJ's final 57-page report.

    We know that the sketch bears no relation whatsoever to the identikit image produced at the time by the actual witness, a 12-year-old girl.

    We know the 'Ugly Man' sketch was drawn from the description contained in the PJ files by someone completely unrelated to the case.

    We know the girl described the man as having short, fair hair, about 1cm in length - yet the sketch produced shows a full head of dark, longer hair.

    We know that the 'Ugly Man' sketch was not even shown to the 3 witnesses prior to its widespread publication.

    So, having no investigative or forensic value, why was it produced?

    Could the answer lie in the sudden acknowledgment, by the McCanns, of the Smith family sighting? A sighting they have known about for some time but have previously sought to distance themselves from.

    The Channel 4 documentary, 'Madeleine Was Here', stated that the sighting had been linked to Gerry McCann but that this had been dismissed by the PJ. It was not stated that Martin Smith was 60-80% certain that the man he saw that night carrying a child was Gerry McCann.

    In the reconstruction of the Smith family sighting, the way the child was carried was similar to the Tanner sighting; held horizontally in an extremely awkward and uncomfortable way. This was grossly misleading and a deliberate attempt to consciously link the two sightings.

    The Smith family sighting was unequivocal. The child was carried vertically with the head against the carrier's shoulder. It was this particular way of carrying the child that shocked Martin Smith when he saw Gerry McCann on the BBC news - with a sleeping Sean in his arms -when the McCanns returned to the UK.

    The McCanns' latest pair of detectives now believe that there were two people involved in the 'abduction' and that the man seen by Jane Tanner was NOT the 'Ugly Man'.

    Therefore the door has been left open to the possibility that the man seen by the Smith family, despite not matching Tanner's description, was, nevertheless, still involved in the 'abduction'.

    So, the question is, has this sketch been produced to marry this 'Ugly Man' to the Smith sighting and negate any discussion that the man seen by the Smith family, carrying a lifeless child, was, in fact, Gerry McCann?

    Nothing more than a simple case of mistaken identity.
    kahaarinzaterdag 9 mei 2009 @ 13:58
    Ik denk dat het hier wat mee te maken heeft, ze moeten toch publiciteit hebben, elke keer als er iets op TV komt of Amaral komt met iets dan is er dit soort berichtgeving, het Madeleine fund is aan het slinken remember?
    quote:
    TV documentary throws up new Madeleine clues

    Saturday, 9 May 2009

    A former RUC man is pursuing “potentially significant” information received after the broadcast of a new TV documentary about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, her family’s spokesman has said.

    More than 50 calls were made to the McCanns’ investigative hotline following the airing of Thursday night’s programme, which highlighted three separate sightings of a suspicious man before the little girl vanished.

    The callers offered “real, new information”, including details of possible sightings of the missing child, family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said.

    Madeleine was nearly four when she went missing from her family’s holiday flat in Praia da Luz, southern Portugal, on May 3 2007 while her parents dined with friends nearby.

    The new documentary highlighted three witnesses who saw an odd stranger who appeared to be watching the McCanns’ apartment in the days before the little girl disappeared.

    An artist’s impression based on one account of the man, who was described as “very ugly” with pitted skin and a large nose, was also released this week.

    Madeleine’s parents Gerry and Kate McCann, from Rothley, Leicestershire, are employing two retired British policemen to continue the search for their daughter.

    The former officers — ex-RUC detective inspector Dave Edgar, (52) and ex-detective sergeant Arthur Cowley (57) — scoured thousands of pages from the official Portuguese case files looking for clues. They put the three reports of a suspicious stranger hanging around the McCanns’ apartment together with two sightings of a man carrying a child away from the flat on the night Madeleine vanished.

    Mr Mitchell said there was a good response to Thursday night’s programme — Madeleine Was Here — which was watched by 2.6m people on Channel 4.

    He said: “The investigative phone line has had at least 50 calls since the documentary.

    “It’s a very encouraging response because there is real, new information being given in some of these calls, information that the investigators are now able to set to work on.

    “Some of the calls are coming from Portugal, and that’s exactly where we need the information from.

    “We will not go into detail but the investigators are very pleased with that response.”

    He added: “Many of the calls are offering real information that’s potentially significant and can be worked upon. It’s not speculative or vague.”

    The documentary will be shown by Portuguese broadcaster SIC on Monday and negotiations are under way to air it in other countries.
    Sukozaterdag 9 mei 2009 @ 17:21
    Toch niet denk ik wat dit betreft, de uitspraak van de Smithjes is nooit echt ontkracht, dat blijft hangen en door deze vent naar voren te schuiven hopen ze waarschijnlijk de verdenking op Gerry op te heffen, net wat Nigel Noore zegt, oh, men heeft zich vergist, hij leek er alleen maar op.

    Eerder vroeg ik me af waar rijke stinkerd Brian Kennedy was gebleven, hij zou door het vuur gaan bij wijze van spreken, die is er inderdaad dan toch mee gestopt: "The millionaire Brian Kennedy who has once stated that he would be prepared to use the whole of his personal fortune – estimated at more than 500 million Euros in order to finance the alleged private investigations into the disappearance of Maddie, appears now to have abandoned his financial support for the couple."

    Clarence Mitchell: "I was working for the government when the news of Madeleine’s abduction broke. I was asked to go to Portugal to help with the media frenzy that was developing. In September I decided I wanted to work full-time to help the McCanns with their campaign so I left the government and Brian Kennedy stepped in to pay my salary. Some months ago Brian Kennedy withdrew from funding it and so the Helping to Find Madeleine Trust is now paying me to help continue the search for Madeleine", replied Clarence." Bron

    Alle kosten worden dus nu uit het fonds betaald, en inderdaad, elke cent is hard nodig, rijke figuren als Kennedy zijn er niet meer,al veel eerder trok Branson zich terug toen ze als verdachten werden gezien. En dan gaan we terug naar jouw verhaal Kahaarin, er moet worden gedoneerd en daarbij wordt geen middel geschuwd....
    Sukozaterdag 9 mei 2009 @ 17:39
    Wat mij nou weer opvalt, alle Britse kranten stonden vol over het feit dat Brian Kennedy desnoods tot z'n laatst cent de zoektocht naar Madeleine zou betalen, ook de bijkomende kosten zoals Mitchell, maar nu vraagt geen enkele Britse Journalist zich af waarom hij zich heeft teruggetrokken, niemand. Hij was het toch die getuigen had bezocht waarna ze niet meer de politie te woord wilden staan, of plotseling van de aardbodem leken verdwenen. Heel vreemd allemaal...
    Sukozondag 10 mei 2009 @ 10:32
    En weer een artikel in een Brits blad, in dit geval een commentaar, teruggetrokken, de zoveelste. Elke vorm van kritiek, hoe klein ook, eigenlijk minimaal, er mag al niks meer, wordt direct verwijderd:

    Another Jornalist Censored in the UK



    Jon Clements, a British journalist, crime correspondent for the Mirror, published on May 8 an article with the title 'Madeleine McCann: conflicting eye witnesses', where he gave his not so favourable opinion regarding the McCanns Documentary. Today is impossible to read his personal column/blog, in fact it appears to have been deleted altogether. However from Google's Cache, we are able to republish is opinion here.

    Dubbelklik voor een groter beeld

    quote:
    Madeleine McCann: conflicting eye witnesses
    By Jon Clements on May 8, 09 09:39 AM

    I watched the Channel 4 documentary last night about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and came to one conclusion - the more anyone looks into it the more confusing it gets.

    We were told that several "new" eye witnesses saw a man staring at the McCann's apartment in Praia da Luz from the street in the days before Madeleine vanished, sometimes with a white van parked nearby.

    Then we were told that an Irish family saw a man carrying a child through the streets 40 minutes after Jane Tanner, the McCanns friend, saw a man carrying a child in the street outside the apartment.

    Interesting though this may be, I'm not convinced either sighting is much of a breakthrough or evidence pointing in any particular direction.

    Is anybody seriously suggesting that a child snatcher would wander the streets with their victim for 40 minutes risking discovery at any second ?

    If, as the eyewitnesses believed, the man was not a tourist, how would he possibly explain carrying a child who most definitely was on holiday ?

    If the man spotted outside the apartment with the van was involved in the kidnapping why would be be carrying the child half a mile away 40 minutes later in the street when he could be 30 miles away speeding down the road ?

    Both accounts could be correct but it is hard to see how both could be relevant to what happened to Madeleine.

    Her parents tireless appeals for information are impressive but it is hard to see where or when the breakthrough will come.
    by Joana Morais
    kahaarinmaandag 11 mei 2009 @ 10:01
    Tja het is duidelijk dat er strenge censuur wordt toegepast, onbegrijpelijk imho. Alsof de McCanns ergens tegen of door beschermd moeten worden, zij zoeken zelf steeds de pers op. Niet dat dit netekent dat er zomaar alles geschreven mag worden maar als dit soort berichten al teruggehaald worden.....

    Er is een nieuwe verdachte:
    quote:
    A WOMAN was seen acting suspiciously outside Kate and Gerry McCann’s apartment just an hour before their daughter Madeleine was abducted.


    The slim, Portuguese-looking woman in a plum-coloured top and white skirt with long, dark, swept-back hair acted furtively when she was spotted at 8pm on May 3 in 2007 near the Mark Warner Ocean Club complex.

    She was standing under a streetlight at a crossroads only 40 feet from where Madeleine was sleeping with her brother Sean and his twin sister Amelie.

    Investigators are being urged to find her to see if she was in any way connected to a pockmarked prowler seen several times outside the apartment in the day leading up to the kidnap.

    Details of the mystery woman have only just become known after a Sunday Express investigation into the baffling case was alerted by an elderly British woman who has lived in Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve for more than 30 years.

    Speaking from her villa near the Ocean Club, the woman, who has asked not to be named, recalled: “On that night I went to the supermarket at the bottom of the road just before it closed at 8pm.

    “As I drove past the entrance to the Ocean Club I saw a woman standing opposite Apartment 5A the McCanns were staying in.

    “Even at that time of night the streets were deserted, so I was surprised to see someone there. I remember thinking it was unusual because it is just not the sort of place you would hang around.

    “As I drove up to the junction she stepped around to the other side of the street lamp as though she didn’t want me to look at her. She was not carrying a bag or a mobile phone. I thought she might have been waiting for a lift but no car came along while I was there.

    “I turned right and could see quite clearly she was looking at Apartment 5A.
    Het begint er nu op te lijken dat ze vastbesloten zijn om aan te tonen dat er een vooropgezet plan was om Maddy te ontvoeren. Ik vind het zeer vreemd dat er zo veel moeite gedaan zou zijn om juist haar te pakken te krijgen. Als er zo veel moeite wordt gedaan dan zou je verwachten dat men van plan zou zijn om losgeld te eisen. Ik vind het nu groteske vormen aannemen, de McCanns en spinmachine mogen iedereen voor het voetlicht halen en zo maar lukraak beschuldigen. Dat terwijl een bericht dat heel misschien in de verte suggereert dat ze wellicht meer zouden kunnen weten dan ze vertellen wordt teruggehaald.
    Sukodinsdag 12 mei 2009 @ 11:30
    Ladingen vol mett mogelijke verdachten hebben ze, voorlopig kunnn ze vooruit om de Britse pers te vullen/vervuilen, de meese zijn allang al al door de Potugese politie onderzoch en uitgesloten, zo ze al echt bestaan.zoals in dit bericht: The 3 Witness Accounts Shredded to Pieces Zo, heb er weer even genoeg van.
    voyeurzondag 17 mei 2009 @ 11:00
    quote:
    Op donderdag 7 mei 2009 22:12 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Sorry, moet even...hilarisch!

    [ afbeelding ]

    (bron)
    Ik ga mijn avatar niet weer veranderen!

    Overigens gaan de McCanns juridische aktie nemen tegen onze Portugese inspecteur's boek.
    kahaarinzondag 17 mei 2009 @ 12:59
    quote:
    Op zondag 17 mei 2009 11:00 schreef voyeur het volgende:

    [..]

    Ik ga mijn avatar niet weer veranderen!

    Overigens gaan de McCanns juridische aktie nemen tegen onze Portugese inspecteur's boek.
    Idd, ik las het:
    quote:
    Parents of Madeleine McCann to sue police chief who branded them killers
    May 17 2009 by Paul Cole, Sunday Mercury

    THE parents of missing Midland girl Madeleine McCann are to sue disgraced former Portuguese police chief Goncalo Amaral.

    Kate and Gerry McCann, from Rothley, Leicestershire, were branded killers after Amaral suggested that they had been involved in the three year-old’s death, and had concealed the body.

    In a statement last night, the McCanns said: “We, together with our three children Madeleine, Sean and Amelie, are taking this legal action against Goncalo Amaral.

    “It is over his entirely unfounded and grossly defamatory claims that Madeleine is not only dead, but that we, her parents, were involved in concealing her body.”
    @ Suko, geen nieuws dus, , dat was al wel duidelijk. Tot zoverre nog geen echte tips of aanwijzingen, alleen wel Amerikaanse 'roem' voor de McCanns.
    livelinkzondag 17 mei 2009 @ 17:47
    En dan als reactie klaagt Amaral de McCanns weer aan ,zie hier.
    Het begint echt een soap te worden zo. Maar ja, alles is publiciteit natuurlijk.
    kahaarinvrijdag 22 mei 2009 @ 10:54
    Hallo Suko en de rest BREAKING news voor de verandering!
    Ze hebben nu een Britse pedofiel op het oog:
    quote:
    Madeleine McCann: British paedophile Raymond Hewlett is 'significant new suspect'
    Raymond Hewlett, a convicted British paedophile responsible for a number of sex attacks in the last 40 years, is being investigated in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, it has emerged.

    Hewlett, a former soldier, is believed to have been living an hour's drive from the resort of Praia da Luz, in Portugal, when she disappeared in April 2007, reports said.

    The 64-year-old has a long record of sex attacks on young girls and is wanted by police in Britain and Ireland.

    The new information is thought to have emerged after Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, made a string of international media appearances to issue a fresh appeal for information on the second anniversary of her disappearance.

    New material released included a computer-aided image of what she may look like now, aged six, while another was a sketch of a suspect seen near the holiday complex.

    Hewlett, described by detectives as "cunning" and a "danger to children", is a former Scots Guardsman who has worked as a trawlerman and fairground operator.

    He has been jailed several times for sexual offences against young girls.

    Hewlett is also wanted by some British police forces for questioning about sex attacks stretching back nearly 30 years.

    It is not known if he was interviewed by Portuguese police but they have been informed he may have been involved in her disappearance.

    The search for Madeleine is headed by two retired UK policemen, Dave Edgar, a former RUC and Cheshire Police officer, and Arthur Cowley, previously of Merseyside Police, who run Alpha Investigations Group and have been hired by the Find Madeleine Fund to investigate missed leads.

    Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCann family, said: "My understanding is he is currently receiving hospital treatment and is currently in Germany.

    "Kate and Gerry are fully aware of the development and have been for a little while.

    "This is one line of inquiry in an ongoing investigation led by two former police officers.

    He added that he believed a number of British police forces had been looking for Mr Hewlett for some time.

    "Three police forces have an interest in him and want to talk to him, I believe, about other matters," he said.

    "He has a background that would be of interest to any police force. It is potentially significant but I will go no further than that."

    He refused to comment on whether Hewlett was in police custody.

    The alarm was raised about Hewlett by a couple who met him while on holiday in Portugal.

    When Alan and Cindy Thompson met Hewlett, he was living with his wife and six children in a converted Dodge truck travelling from campsite to campsite.

    Mr Thompson told the Daily Mirror: "Hewlett befriended us but kept quiet about his terrible past.

    "We were mortified and disgusted to discover the truth."

    They also described a conversation in which Hewlett said he was approached by some "Gipsy tourists" offering to buy his daughter just before Madeleine went missing.

    Mrs Thompson said: "We didn't think too much of this at the time. Ray and his family led a desperate hand-to-mouth lifestyle and someone may have thought he'd be tempted to sell one of his six children."

    They also recalled him mentioning a "business" trip to Morocco where there were several alleged sightings of Madeleine in the months after her disappearance
    .
    Wel vaag dat ze daar nu pas mee komen...?
    livelinkvrijdag 22 mei 2009 @ 20:23
    Ik las het bericht vanochtend op de frontpage, met deze reactie erop.
    quote:
    Op vrijdag 22 mei 2009 @ 10:04 schreef weert-gilders het volgende:
    Goh die man wordt behandelt voor kanker... De ouders van Maddie gaan hem ondervragen... 1+1=2 ze geven die man een zak geld want die gaat toch dood in ruil voor een bekentenis zodat zij uit de picture verdwijnen...
    Mijn eerste reactie was dat dat wel erg vergezocht was, maar in tweede instantie leek het me nog geloofwaardig ook
    Ik weet niet wat ik hier nou weer van moet denken allemaal.
    kahaarinwoensdag 10 juni 2009 @ 11:46
    quote:
    Op vrijdag 22 mei 2009 20:23 schreef livelink het volgende:
    Ik las het bericht vanochtend op de frontpage, met deze reactie erop.
    [..]

    Mijn eerste reactie was dat dat wel erg vergezocht was, maar in tweede instantie leek het me nog geloofwaardig ook
    Ik weet niet wat ik hier nou weer van moet denken allemaal.
    Ik denk dat je nog wel eens gelijk kunt krijgen: I SAW MADELEINE TWICE ON HOLIDAY SAYS PAEDOPHILE
    quote:


    Paedophile Raymond Hewlett has confessed that he saw Madeleine McCann twice weeks before she disappeared, it was claimed last night.

    The child molester, who is undergoing cancer treatment in Germany, said he spotted the youngster before she ­vanished from a Portuguese holiday resort two years ago.

    In an extraordinary deathbed confession, he was reported to have told police: “Yes – I have seen Maddie.”

    He even remembered the ­distinctive flaw in her right eye, despite previously insisting that he was nowhere near the family resort at the time.

    Kate and Gerry McCann’s spokesman said it was now “imperative” that Hewlett is interviewed before he dies.

    Madeleine was just three-years-old when she went missing from her family’s apartment as they holidayed at the ­Algarve beach resort of Praia da Luz.

    Hewlett, 64, who has a lifelong history of sexually abusing little girls, was living less than an hour away from the scene of the abduction at the time.

    The paedophile, originally from Yorkshire, was quizzed by Portuguese police investigating Madeleine’s disappearance but he was given an alibi by a 15-year-old girl.

    But he came under renewed suspicion after making bizarre comments about the case to his friends and family.

    Yesterday’s claims were made in Germany’s biggest news­paper Bild, which were understood to be based on “police sources”.

    The McCanns’ team want to speak to Hewlett but the paedophile – who has been given weeks to live – has said he will only talk about the case if he ­receives tens of thousands of pounds from the Find Maddie fund.

    Spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “In the light of the Bild piece, this makes it even more imperative that Mr Hewlett gives any credible information that he may have about Madeleine to the investigators as a matter of priority. It is only right that he and his legal representatives ensure this happens. However, there will be no payment made to him.”

    The paedophile was interviewed by British police this week, but they were unable to quiz him about Madeleine’s disappearance.

    Hewlett was being sought by West Yorkshire Police’s Homicide and Major Inquiry Team, who were conducting a review of an ­assault on an eight-year-old girl in 1975.

    Two detectives spent Thursday and yesterday in Aachen, Germany, grilling him.

    But under the terms allowing the interview, the detectives were unable to make any ­mention of Madeleine unless ­Hewlett himself volunteered information. He did not.

    But Hewlett has agreed to have a DNA test ­taken which will go on to a worldwide Interpol database. This could then be used to cross-match samples obtained during the Madeleine inquiry by the Portuguese police.

    A West Yorkshire Police source said: “The only way we would have ventured into the Madeleine investigation would have been through something Hewlett himself told us.

    “We are aware of the reports that he has claimed to have seen Madeleine twice but he made no such comments to our detectives.”
    Ze zijn me iets te happig om te benadrukken dat deze man niet betaald gaat worden, bovendien zijn de hernieuwde beschuldigingen wat mij betreft een beetje te toevallig.
    fruit_vliegjedonderdag 11 juni 2009 @ 13:53
    Deze week zal die man toch een persconferentie geven over wat hij weet over Madeleine ofzo. Dacht zoiets gelezen te hebben?
    kahaarinzondag 28 juni 2009 @ 13:34
    quote:
    Op donderdag 11 juni 2009 13:53 schreef fruit_vliegje het volgende:
    Deze week zal die man toch een persconferentie geven over wat hij weet over Madeleine ofzo. Dacht zoiets gelezen te hebben?
    Nou, ik ben nlij dat ik mijn adem niet heb ingehouden, ze gaan nu het busje van die man ontleden, ben benieuwd.
    quote:
    MADELEINE McCann Watch: Anorak’s at-a-glance look at Madeleine McCann in the news - Case remains closed…

    Portugal News Oneline tells readers: “Recent reports not enough to re-open Maddie case -Attorney General”

    This was to be the Third Summer of Our Maddie, in which the story of the missing child would give the newspapers something to fall back on should Big Brother fail and a shark not be spotted off Bournemouth pier.

    But Michael Jackson has died. Iran is broiling. Andy Murray is doing well. And as Sky News – live from LA tells us – it’s Tuesday so it must be Farrah Fawcett’s burial.

    Portugal’s Attorney General has this week voiced its opinion that recent reports about British paedophile Raymond Hewlett, who was embroiled in the Madeleine McCann [sic] after it emerged the former convict had been staying in the Algarve at the time of her disappearance, were not strong enough to re-open the case.

    Well, if there is no evidence…


    Following reports in the UK’s press that branded 64-year-old Hewlett as ‘suspicious’ for being in the Algarve region at the time of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, Portugal’s Attorney General has said none of the reports offered solid facts that justified re-launching the investigation.

    Can you have an non-solid fact, a loose fact? Such are the facts that the only things linking Raymond Hewlett to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann are Clarence Mitchell’s opinions, newspaper speculation, the renaming of him as “Maddie pervert” and Cindy and Alan Thompson.

    In a statement the Attorney General’s Office made clear “speculation, opinions or commentary is not enough to re-open the investigation”.

    Sadly, they were for too long enough to keep the case open and for the innocent McCanns and Robert Murat to be named as arguidos. But now all things have moved on and there are no suspects to go with no evidence and no clue pointing to any crime having occurred.

    It continued “when there are concrete facts, that the magistrates in charge of the case consider relevant or credible, the case will be reopened”.

    Well, yes… But not in the Sun:

    Forensic checks on Maddie perv’s van

    “Maddie perv!”


    A VAN used by Maddie McCann suspect Raymond Hewlett will be “ripped apart” in a hunt for clues.
    Private detectives believe forensic checks could provide crucial evidence about the toddler’s disappearance.

    What do they hope to find?

    The battered blue Dodge has been seized by cops in Germany, where paedo Hewlett, 64, is being treated for cancer.

    A source close to the probe added: “It will be ripped apart to look for a trace of Maddie.”

    Do police hand over their suspects and potential evidence to private detectives?

    Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for Maddie’s parents Gerry and Kate, 41, said: “Our investigators have known about the vehicle for some time.”

    Which means… nothing.
    Sukozondag 2 augustus 2009 @ 08:54
    On heel erlijk tE ijn, ik heb het niet meergevolgd,MDELEILEINE BEN IK NIETBEU MAARWEL HAAR OMGEVING.HET IS IMO DGEENVERMISSING, MOGRLIJK WELMOORD DE GTOOTSTE COVER-UP ALLER TIJDEN, MET VLELEPOLITIEKE KANTJES. EN WAARMEE HEEL VEEL GEDLIS GEMOEID):O

    [ Bericht 3% gewijzigd door Suko op 02-08-2009 09:01:30 ]
    livelinkzondag 2 augustus 2009 @ 08:58
    Suko

    Ik heb me er ook bij neergelegd dat dit waarschijnlijk een misdaad gaat worden, waar de betrokkenen mee wegkomen. Weer wat cynischer geworden, dat wel.
    Sukozondag 2 augustus 2009 @ 09:26
    En veet meer menen het neu zijn xijn blijkt rl uit deeglooop vanbekende fora, ook een taciek vsn pr-man mitchll, overlaadt mnnsen met info la of niet xinvol, dann haken ze wel af......heel slim.

    [ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 02-08-2009 09:36:40 ]
    yyentlezondag 2 augustus 2009 @ 12:49
    quote:
    Op vrijdag 1 mei 2009 13:08 schreef Suko het volgende:
    De docu vsn Amaral, nu met Engelse ondertiteling, en natuurlijk....niet vertoond in de UK.

    The documentary the McCanns don't want you to see




    Sukomaandag 3 augustus 2009 @ 06:49
    oh zoveel mag mrn niet weten in de uk, zdelfs het boek van \amral moest herzien (aangepast)worden....meer

    [ Bericht 2% gewijzigd door Suko op 04-08-2009 20:12:57 (schijffoutje) ]
    patatmetfrietmaandag 3 augustus 2009 @ 07:01
    quote:
    In an extraordinary deathbed confession, he was reported to have told police: “Yes – I have seen Maddie.”

    He even remembered the ­distinctive flaw in her right eye, despite previously insisting that he was nowhere near the family resort at the time.
    Ja dat kan ik jaren later ook wel oprakelen, die foto's zijn all over the place geweest.
    everlast08donderdag 6 augustus 2009 @ 13:46
    Van de site van het ad:
    quote:
    donderdag 06 augustus 2009
    Spoor Maddie wijst naar Australië
    SYDNEY - Er is een nieuwe verdachte in de verdwijningszaak van de Britse peuter Madeleine McCann. Een getuige heeft Kate en Gerry, Maddie's ouders, nieuwe tips gegeven over een Australische vrouw, die iets met de verdwijning te maken zou hebben

    Madeleine (Maddie) McCann verdween op 3 mei 2007 uit de slaapkamer van een Portugees appartement.
    De vrouw zou drie dagen na Maddie's verdwijning in in Praia da Luz een ontmoeting hebben gehad in Barcelona met een onbekende man. Maar ze vergiste zich van persoon en praatte haar mond voorbij. De politie gelooft dat zij wel eens belangrijke informatie zou kunnen hebben.

    Onderzoekers stellen dat deze nieuwe verdachte van 'potentieel belang' is voor het onderzoek. Vandaag doen ze een publieke oproep waarin ze om hulp vragen haar te vinden. Volgens de Australische media heeft de dame in kwestie uiterlijk heel wat weg van Victoria Beckham. Ze heeft kort bruin haar, is slank, spreekt vloeiend Spaans en heeft een Australisch of Nieuw-Zeelands accent. De verwachting is dat er foto's van de verdachte worden vrijgegeven. Daarnaast maken de onderzoekers bekend wat de link is tussen de vrouw en het onderzoek naar de verdwijning van Madeleine.

    "De dame was aan het wandelen nabij Port Olimpic Marina maar leek nerveus. Een getuige sprak haar aan maar na een korte conversatie begreep ze dat ze met de verkeerde persoon te maken had. Nadien stapte ze een bar binnen en sprak ze een andere man. De onbekende man wandelde nadien naar de haven", vertelt Dave Edgar, één van de twee privédetectives die de familie heeft ingehuurd.
    (HLN.be)
    Frutseldonderdag 6 augustus 2009 @ 16:50
    quote:
    Aussie Woman Sought in New Madeleine McCann Twist

    A computerized sketch has been released of a "Victoria Beckham lookalike" private investigators want to trace in the hunt for Madeleine McCann.

    She was reportedly seen by two British men in Barcelona, Spain, three days after the little girl disappeared from Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3 2007.



    The woman said something to one of the men which convinced the McCanns' private investigators she might have information about Madeleine.

    The sketch was issued by McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell and David Edgar, the retired detective who now leads the search for the missing girl.

    The pair gave details of the development at a press conference in London.

    Rest of story continues here
    livelinkdonderdag 6 augustus 2009 @ 19:14
    Jaren later komt iemand een vage getuige ineens met een nieuwe, nog vagere, verdachte, waar alleen een tekening van bestaat. Dat noem ik geen doorbraak. Dat noem ik opnieuw aandacht vragen in de hoop weer wat geld in het fonds te krijgen. Of ben ik nu echt te cynisch geworden?
    Marrijevrijdag 7 augustus 2009 @ 07:46
    Tja. Ik weet het niet. Er was toch (jaren geleden) ook een winkelier die Maddy in haar winkel had gezien, in Nederland. Toen dacht ik al, als dat waar is dan kan ze inmiddels overal zijn. Dus ook in Australie.

    Maar ja, misschien is ze meteen de dag na de verdwijning ook wel vermoord.

    Ik weet ook niet meer wat ik moet denken. Maar er zou best een doorbraak kunnen zijn.
    Sukomaandag 10 augustus 2009 @ 16:51
    Ikkan het toch even niet lATEN, sorry

    Madeleine McCann’s DeathBron \Opperleugenaar' PRMAN \Clarence MitchellAnybody who has given money to help find Madeleine need have no fear that their money is being spent on lawyers fees or anything like that." - Clarence Mitchell. '
    Sukodonderdag 27 augustus 2009 @ 18:35
    hET BOEK VAN POLIIEMAN EN VERGUISD LEIDER VAN HET ONDEROZKE KOMT IN DE UK UITGonçalo Amaral to self-publish his book in the UK
    Read more: http://joana-morais.blogs(...)k.html#ixzz0POwVuED1
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives


    Read more: http://joana-morais.blogs(...)k.html#ixzz0POwVuED1
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives.

    Gonçalo Amaral, the former coordinator of the Madeleine McCann investigation, has contacted the editor of his book, “Maddie: The Truth About The Lie”, seeking to recover its copyright, with the ultimate purpose of publishing the book in the UK himself.

    Based on the criminal investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine, “The Truth About The Lie” has sold over 200 thousand copies in Portugal, and has been translated and published in several countries, like France, the Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Spain and Belgium.

    A documentary that is based on the book was broadcast by TVI in Portugal and reached an audience of 2,2 million viewers, was sold and broadcast in other countries, like Spain and Denmark, where it generated added interest in the case.

    "The Truth About The Lie" has not been published in the UK, where no editor seems to be willing to risk upsetting the McCann couple.

    Similarly, the documentary has not been broadcast by any British television channel.

    Many British citizens have been forced to search for, and watch, the documentary on the internet, in order to access factual information that has otherwise not been made available by the UK media, in general.bRON


    Read more: http://joana-morais.blogs(...)k.html#ixzz0POxyNfRJ
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivatives


    Read more: http://joana-morais.blogs(...)k.html#ixzz0POx2nRVL
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Non-Commercial No Derivativ

    HOPLIJK DOEN DE \EnGLSE JOUNO'S ER NU WEL IETS Mee gaan doen, MAAER IK BETWIJEL DAT, VEEL TE LAAT.

    [ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 28-08-2009 08:07:25 ]
    kahaarinvrijdag 28 augustus 2009 @ 13:52
    En natuurlijk meteen:
    quote:
    The parents of missing Madeleine McCann said today that the reappearance of child kidnap victim Jaycee Lee Dugard 18 years after she disappeared "only makes us more determined" to find their daughter.

    Jaycee was abducted at the age of 11 from her home in California in 1991 but has now been reunited with her mother after walking into a police station with her alleged captor and the two children he fathered by her.
    Ik vermoed dat de Britse journalisten er verder niets mee doen Suko,dit is toch veel belangrijker..... ?

    kahaarindonderdag 3 september 2009 @ 12:37
    Zo, deze maar even quoten, voor je het weet is hij weg...

    Het is toch ook gewoon zo, dit is geen nieuws, dit is uitmelken en zielig doen, natuurlijk moeten Sean en Amelie naar school, ze zijn 4 nu.
    En dan de uitspraak dat ze nieuwe hoop hebben na de terugkomst van JAYCEE Lee Dugard, inderdaad McCanns, slaap lekker, wat een vooruitzicht, je dochter na 18 jaar terugkrijgen terwijl er dit soort dingen met haar zijn gedaan.
    Hoe halen ze het in hun hoofd om dit te zeggen.
    quote:
    Madeleine McCann: Watching Amelie And Sean Start School


    MADELEINE McCann Watch: Anorak’s at-a-glance look at Madeleine McCann in the news - We’re watching Our Maddie’s twin siblings Amelie and Sean go to school with Jaycee Dugard.

    Sky News tells us: “Parents’ Pain As Twins Join Madeleine School”

    All the media talks is of the McCanns’ pain: Pain. Pain. Pain.

    We are not looking for the missing child, we are watching the parents, as ever. And we are watching the children. Nothing creepy about watching someone else’s children, a stranger’s children start school. This is just good wholesome gawping.

    After “pain” the other word is “proud”. As all news sources tell us, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann are proud. This from Sky:

    It will be a proud moment for her parents when they drop off twins Sean and Amelie for their first day in primary class in Thurmaston, Leics. But the occasion will be tinged with overwhelming sadness for the couple.
    Will it? Did anyone ask them or do we now know the McCanns well enough to read their minds?

    Madeleine had already been accepted at the school and was meant to start lessons four months after she disappeared while on holiday in Portugal on May 3, 2007.

    Staff at Bishop Ellis Roman Catholic Primary kept an empty desk and locker for Madeleine when she vanished - and they still keep a candle burning in the hope she will one day return.
    After the private tribute for one would-be pupil, the school feels a need to advertise its link to the famous missing child. A message on the school’s website says:

    “We are sorry that we are not yet able to welcome Madeleine to our school as we had hoped to. Our thoughts and prayers remain very much with the McCanns as we continue to pray with them for Madeleine.”
    When Madeleine McCann went missing, and as she became the media’s Our Maddie, pupils from the school stood in formation to spell out the words “Find Madeleine”. Will Sean and Amelie McCann now help recreate he scene?

    But this is not about the twins, who are not missing. This is about finding a missing child. Really:

    The twins will be driven the five miles to school from their family home in Rothley.
    Phew! They won’t be walking there alone. Any other news?


    An Ofsted report carried out in May this year described the school as “outstanding” and said the pupils were “admirably well behaved”.
    Good news, then. Meanwhile, over in the Mail, Allison Pearson is playing Tabloid Bingo:

    Is there hope for Jaycee?

    As Gerry and Kate McCann get their excited twins ready for their first day at school this week, they must think that they would have Madeleine back at any price.

    Just what that price might involve is revealed by the compellingly awful story of Jaycee Dugard, who was reunited with her mother, Terry Probyn, after 18 terrible years.
    Don’t worry, McCanns - Maddie may be being held by a paedophile rapist and his wife.

    Pain.
    Meanwhile, a child is missing.
    kahaarinzaterdag 5 september 2009 @ 15:35
    Dit lijkt me idd bizar om mee te maken:
    quote:
    Man questioned over Madeleine McCann lookalike step-daughter
    A fire protection officer was questionned over the disappearance of Madeleine McCann after being spotted in a petrol station with his step-daughter, who looks like the missing girl.

    Published: 10:38AM BST 04 Sep 2009

    Jon Hazelhurst with his daughter Lauren who was called into a police station after she was mistaken for missing girl Madeleine McCann Photo: SWNS

    Jon Hazlehurst and eight-year-old Lauren were at home when officers arrived at their doorstep and asked them to go to a police station.

    A member of the public had seen the pair at a petrol station the day before and thought blonde Lauren was missing Maddie.

    The concerned witness had noted down Mr Hazelhurst's car registration plate and immediately notified police.

    Officers then visited the family home and Jon and Lauren were taken to a police station for an identification process.

    Mr Hazelhurst, of Kingsbridge, Devon, said he thought it was a ''prank''.

    He said: ''I was surprised more than anything. My first thought was that it was someone pulling a prank on me before I realised that they were quite serious.

    ''I've never been called into a police station as a possible kidnapper. The police were very polite and I understood that they had to follow up the lead, even if it didn't come to anything.

    ''There's always a chance a tip-off like that might lead them to Madeleine.''

    Mr Hazelhurst and Lauren pulled in for petrol on their way back from walking their dog at nearby Slapton beach on Sunday.

    The following morning officers knocked on Mr Hazlehurst's door asking him and his step-daughter to come to Kingsbridge police station.

    The pair went with the officers but were later released after they were identified and it was proved that she was not Maddie.

    Sgt Paul O'Neill, of Kingsbridge Police, said Lauren did bear a resemblance to Madeleine McCann - except for a different eye colour.

    He added: ''I thank the lady for bringing it to our attention. She did well to spot the little girl and inform us. Fortunately, the parent was more than willing to help.''

    Madeleine McCann disappeared in May 2007 while on holiday with her parents and twin siblings in the Algarve region of Portugal.

    She went missing a few days before her fourth birthday and would be six years old now.
    kahaarinmaandag 7 september 2009 @ 15:03
    Nou ja, voor de volledigheid:
    quote:
    New leads in search for missing Madeleine McCann

    Sources report that private detectives, ex-police officers Arthur Cowley and Dave Edgar, continue to look into little Madeleine McCann’s disappearance and have returned to Portugal to question persons of interest.

    According to the Daily Express, new leads may provide a breakthrough in the case. “The investigation has real momentum with definite goals. A vast amount of work has already been done and every new lead is being checked,” a source said.

    Madeleine’s little brother and sister, twins Sean and Amelie, have begun school at Bishop Ellis RC School where Madeleine was a student prior to her disappearance. On their Website, a message reads, “We are sorry we are not yet able to welcome Madeleine to our school as we had hope to.”

    Madeleine, who would now be six-years-old, disappeared in May 2007, during a family vacation in Portugal.
    Clarence Mitchel spam?
    “The investigation has real momentum with definite goals. A vast amount of work has already been done and every new lead is being checked,”
    Het komt me bekend voor iig.
    Mylenewoensdag 9 september 2009 @ 21:31
    quote:
    Rechter verbiedt boek over Maddie-zaak

    LISSABON - Een Portugese rechter heeft woensdag een boek van een ex-rechercheur in Portugal verboden omdat het verdachtmakingen bevat aan het adres van de ouders van de verdwenen Britse kleuter Madeleine McCann.

    Een op het boek gebaseerde video moet ook direct uit de handel worden genomen. Dat heeft het Portugese persbureau Lupa gemeld.

    Het omstreden boek 'A Verdade da Mentira' oftewel 'De Waarheid over de Leugen' is geschreven door Gonçalo Amaral.

    Hij leidde tot oktober 2007 het onderzoek naar de geruchtmakende zaak, die op 3 mei 2007 begon met de verdwijning van 'Maddie' uit een vakantiewoning in de plaats Praia da Luz aan de Algarve. Het meisje was toen drieënhalf jaar oud.

    Lichaam

    Amaral stelt dat het meisje dood is en dat haar ouders, Gerry en Kate McCann, haar lichaam ergens hebben verborgen.

    De McCanns spanden een civiele rechtszaak aan tegen de rechercheur, die inmiddels is gepensioneerd. Het stel is volgens een woordvoerder ''erg blij'' met het vonnis.

    Het lichaam van Madeleine is nooit gevonden.
    bron

    Het boek gewoon op internet plaatsen, op een server in Rusland ofzo.
    kahaarindonderdag 10 september 2009 @ 17:46
    quote:
    Op woensdag 9 september 2009 21:31 schreef Mylene het volgende:

    [..]

    bron

    Het boek gewoon op internet plaatsen, op een server in Rusland ofzo.
    Via de site van Joana Morais staat er al een link: http://truthofthelie.com/the-book/chapter-1/

    Je kunt als je boven de knop [English book] zweeft met je cursor het hoofdstuk selecteren.
    kahaarindinsdag 22 september 2009 @ 16:56
    quote:
    Net storm on Madeleine McCann
    Lawyers for Madeleine McCann's parents want to shut down a website that says she was not abducted.

    The Madeleine Foundation claims she is dead and her parents Kate and Gerry bear some responsibility.

    The McCanns' libel experts Carter-Ruck have now asked the Foundation to hand over all copies of materials it published to support the claims.

    Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished on hols in Portugal in May 2007 as her parents, of Rothley, Leics, dined with friends.

    The couple's spokesman said: "They've consistently made clear they will not dignify actions of the so-called Madeleine Foundation."
    Hmm, ik ben benieuwd wat er nu weer op stapel staat, elke keer als er zoiets wordt gedaan dan komt er weer een statement of een announcement.

    Bron
    kahaarindonderdag 24 september 2009 @ 11:02
    Oh ja natuurlijk, nu wil ze wel terug, om het onderzoek gaande te houden......
    quote:
    Kate McCann has returned to Portugal for the first time since being quizzed by police over her daughter Madeleine's disappearance, her spokesman has told Sky.

    The British woman and husband Gerry, both 41, flew in for a series of meetings with their lawyers and other advisers in Lisbon, Clarence Mitchell said.

    "They are planning to be there for one day. They are not going to Praia da Luz," the spokesman went on.

    Madeleine was three when she went missing in the resort of Praia da Luz in May 2007.

    Adding that Mrs McCann was also to attend a press conference, Mr Mitchell said: "It is Kate's first visit back to Portugal since 2007 and it is difficult.

    "It's something that has always been daunting for her, but she knew she would go back at some stage - and she's always said she'll do anything necessary to keep the search for Madeleine alive.

    "If it means a trip to speak to the Portuguese media, then so be it. But she's always said she'll do anything to keep the inquiry alive."

    One of the topics to be discussed with the lawyers will be an injunction against further publication of a book by former Portuguese police detective Goncalo Amaral.

    Mr Amaral was involved in the initial disappearance investigation but was later taken off the case.

    In his book, The Truth Of The Lie, he claims that Madeleine is dead and questions the McCanns' account that she was taken while they were eating with friends nearby.

    Earlier this month, a Portuguese judge banned further sale or publication of the book.

    The injunction also banned Mr Amaral from repeating his claims about Madeleine or her parents, who are from Rothley, Leicestershire.

    At one point, Portuguese police made Mr and Mrs McCann "arguidos", or formal suspects, in their daughter's disappearance.

    They were questioned by detectives but their arguido status was later lifted.
    Hmm, hoeveel vragen heeft ze net na de verdwijning ook al weer niet beantwoord?

    En hier kun je lezen hoe ze elke dag nog aan Maddie denkt.
    quote:
    Mrs McCann said: "Each day we get through, each week that we get through, I'm thinking, how is Madeleine?"

    She added: "She's six, but we've just got to keep going, and it has been very harrowing and very draining, and it's been a long time to just keep going. But there is no choice, she needs us to find her and bring her home. I cry for Madeleine every day."
    Maar ook aan haar eigen portemonnee:
    quote:
    Madeleine claim could spark £1m payout

    Published Date: 24 September 2009
    Madeleine McCann's parents could receive more than £1m compensation from a former police detective who claimed she was dead, it was claimed last night.

    Kate and Gerry McCann are pursuing legal action against Goncalo Amaral after winning a gagging order against the publication of his book. Several thousand copies have reportedly been handed over to the family's legal team.

    Mrs McCann returned to Portugal yesterday for the first time since being quizzed by police about Madeleine's disappearance.

    After the couple met lawyers and advisers in Lisbon, Mrs McCann said: 'If people believe that she is not alive then people will stop looking for her.

    'I just think that it's so vital and so fair for Madeleine that we don't give up on her, that we look for her. We're not going to stop.'


    [ Bericht 8% gewijzigd door kahaarin op 24-09-2009 11:09:31 ]
    Sukodonderdag 24 september 2009 @ 20:29
    [QUOTE]Oh ja natuurlijk, nu wil ze wel terug, om het onderzoek gaande te houden......
    quote:Kate McCann has returned to Portugal for the first time since being quizzed by police over her daughter Madeleine's disappearance, her spokesman has told Sky.

    The British woman and husband Gerry, both 41, flew in for a series of meetings with their lawyers and other advisers in Lisbon, Clarence Mitchell said.

    "They are planning to be there for one day. They are not going to Praia da Luz," the spokesman went on.

    Madeleine was three when she went missing in the resort of Praia da Luz in May 2007.

    Adding that Mrs McCann was also to attend a press conference, Mr Mitchell said: "It is Kate's first visit back to Portugal since 2007 and it is difficult.

    "It's something that has always been daunting for her, but she knew she would go back at some stage - and she's always said she'll do anything necessary to keep the search for Madeleine alive.

    "If it means a trip to speak to the Portuguese media, then so be it. But she's always said she'll do anything to keep the inquiry alive."

    One of the topics to be discussed with the lawyers will be an injunction against further publication of a book by former Portuguese police detective Goncalo Amaral.

    Mr Amaral was involved in the initial disappearance investigation but was later taken off the case.

    In his book, The Truth Of The Lie, he claims that Madeleine is dead and questions the McCanns' account that she was taken while they were eating with friends nearby.

    Earlier this month, a Portuguese judge banned further sale or publication of the book.

    The injunction also banned Mr Amaral from repeating his claims about Madeleine or her parents, who are from Rothley, Leicestershire.

    At one point, Portuguese police made Mr and Mrs McCann "arguidos", or formal suspects, in their daughter's disappearance.

    They were questioned by detectives but their arguido status was later lifted.
    Hmm, hoeveel vragen heeft ze net na de verdwijning ook al weer niet beantwoord?[/QOUTE] DIE 48 VRAGEN ZIJN HIER NA TE LE\ZEN. n police quiz, >04 August 2008http://www.mccannfiles.com/id142.html kAHAARIN: nOG STEEDS Alive +NKICKING?
    Sukodonderdag 24 september 2009 @ 20:31
    THE 48 QUESTIONS KATE DIDN’T ANSWER
    1. On May 3 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch?

    2. Did you search inside the bedroom wardrobe? (she replied that she wouldn’t answer)

    3. (shown 2 photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?

    4. Why had the curtain behind the sofa in front of the side window (whose photo was shown to her) been tampered with? Did somebody go behind that sofa?

    5. How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected your daughter Madeleine’s disappearance?

    6. Why did you say from the start that Madeleine had been abducted?

    7. Assuming Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins home alone to go to the ‘Tapas’ and raise the alarm? Because the supposed abductor could still be in the apartment.

    8. Why didn’t you ask the twins, at that moment, what had happened to their sister or why didn’t you ask them later on?

    9. When you raised the alarm at the ‘Tapas’ what exactly did you say and what were your exact words?

    10. What happened after you raised the alarm in the ‘Tapas’?

    11. Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

    12. Who contacted the authorities?

    13. Who took place in the searches?

    14. Did anyone outside of the group learn of Madeleine’s disappearance in those following minutes?

    15. Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?

    16. What does 'we let her down' mean?

    17. Did Jane tell you that night that she’d seen a man with a child?

    18. How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?

    19. During the searches, with the police already there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?

    20. Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?

    21. Who did you phone after the occurrence?

    22. Did you call Sky News?


    23. Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?

    24. Did you ask for a priest?


    25. By what means did you divulge Madeleine’s features, by photographs or by any other means?


    26. Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?


    27. What was your behaviour that night?


    28. Did you manage to sleep?


    29. Before travelling to Portugal did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?


    30. What was Madeleine’s behaviour like?


    31. Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?


    32. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister?


    33. What was Madeleine’s relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?


    34. As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?


    35. What is your medical specialty?


    36. Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?


    37. Did you work every day?


    38. At a certain point you stopped working, why?


    39. Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?


    40. Is it true that sometimes you despaired with your children’s behaviour and that left you feeling very uneasy?


    41. Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine’s custody to a relative?


    42. In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?


    43. In the case files you were SHOWN CANINE forensic testing films, where you can see them marking due to detection of the scent of human corpse and blood traces, also human, and only human, as well as all the comments of the technician in charge of them. After watching and after the marking of the scent of corpse in your bedroom beside the wardrobe and behind the sofa, pushed up against the sofa wall, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?


    44. When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?


    45. When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?


    46. When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?


    47. When confronted with the results of Maddie’s DNA, whose analysis was carried out in a British laboratory, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn’t explain any more than you already had?


    48. Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter’s disappearance?

    A QUESTION SHE DID ANSWER
    Q. Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardising the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?


    A. 'Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks.'

    *

    The following pictures were later added to the article:
    http://www.mccannfiles.com/id142.html
    Sukodonderdag 24 september 2009 @ 20:36
    The McCanns Did Not Physically Search for MadeleineDIT BLIJF IK HEEL MERKWAARDIG VINDEN, KIND WEG EN NIET ZELF GAAN ZOEKEN

    ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YWCVSjIJk8]

    [ Bericht 15% gewijzigd door Suko op 25-09-2009 08:24:05 ]
    Sukodonderdag 24 september 2009 @ 20:40
    Your child is missing - 48 questions to answer

    The REAL Madeleine McCann Story by SPUDGUN

    [ Bericht 35% gewijzigd door Suko op 26-09-2009 13:16:18 ]
    Sukozondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 16:20
    3 Arguidos Forum Nes (oorlopig niet meer online, alle tegennstand qua fora en blogs ZIJN WEG OF GEHACKT. Aleen deze zijn er nog:Claudia en[url=:http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html ]Nigel[/url]lEr ia behoorlijk opgeschoond door wie? Tja.mAR[url==http://www.<b>anorak</b>.co.uk/madeleine-mccann]=http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann[/url] IS ER NOG WEL, DIE WAREN ALTIJD AL MEER positiefTOV de MCCANNS. Opgelost zullen we maar zeggen. :
    Lord_Vetinarizondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 16:23
    http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)weden___.html?p=36,2
    Marrijezondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 16:49
    quote:
    wow
    quote:
    De Zweedse politie werkt nu samen met Britse collega's en met de privé-detectives die de ouders van Maddie hebben ingehuurd om het meisje op de foto op te sporen.
    Dat lijkt mij nou weer niet zo slim. Zolang de rol van die ouders niet duidelijk is zou ik ze niet samen laten werken met privé-detectives die door de ouders van Maddie zijn ingehuurd.
    Pietverdrietzondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 16:51
    triest wat men niet doet om kranten te verkopen.
    Whiskey_Tangozondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 16:54
    Is dit gezeik nog steeds aan de gang? Wat is er zo speciaal aan dat kind, er worden ik weet niet hoeveel kinderen ontvoerd en/of vermoord, en deze ouders hebben privé detectives, media bombarie, stichtingen, celebrities op de televisie, en zelfs een bezoek aan de paus gebracht.

    Hoe moeten andere ouders zich wel niet voelen met zo'n verlies, dan komt dat kankerende Maddie gezin weer langs hoor, ik vind het zeer ongepast. Dit boek mogen ze wel een keer sluiten.
    Pietverdrietzondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 16:57
    quote:
    Op zondag 11 oktober 2009 16:54 schreef Whiskey_Tango het volgende:
    Is dit gezeik nog steeds aan de gang? Wat is er zo speciaal aan dat kind, er worden ik weet niet hoeveel kinderen ontvoerd en/of vermoord, en deze ouders hebben privé detectives, media bombarie, stichtingen, celebrities op de televisie, en zelfs een bezoek aan de paus gebracht.

    Hoe moeten andere ouders zich wel niet voelen met zo'n verlies, dan komt dat kankerende Maddie gezin weer langs hoor, ik vind het zeer ongepast. Dit boek mogen ze wel een keer sluiten.
    Hear Hear
    Maar je kan er tabloids mee verkopen..
    Whiskey_Tangozondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 17:00
    quote:
    Op zondag 11 oktober 2009 16:57 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

    [..]

    Hear Hear
    Maar je kan er tabloids mee verkopen..
    Ja dat blijkt maar weer, ik snap sowieso niet waarom of mensen zo erg meeleven met dat McCann gezin terwijl er vraagtekens aanwezig zijn bij de rol van de ouders, en als er dan iets gebeurd in Schubbekutteveen met eenzelfde gevolg (ontvoerd kind) dan worden er 5 minuten aan besteed in Hart van Nederland/RTL/NOS en dan is het weer van de hand.

    Ik heb dit werkelijk waar nooit begrepen wat er zo speciaal is aan die Maddie, en 't kan me werkelijk waar zo onderhand ook niks meer schelen ook, het is gewoon smakeloos hoe het uitgemelkt is.
    patatmetfrietzondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 17:15
    Zou toch wel bizar zijn als het 'r is. Zou ze verkocht zijn dan? Of zijn die ouders echt onschuldig en hebben heel wat mensen hun excuses aan te bieden..?
    telavivnickzondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 17:50
    quote:
    Op zondag 11 oktober 2009 17:15 schreef patatmetfriet het volgende:
    Zou toch wel bizar zijn als het 'r is. Zou ze verkocht zijn dan? Of zijn die ouders echt onschuldig en hebben heel wat mensen hun excuses aan te bieden..?
    dat laatste lig toch wel erg voor de hand.
    morgen vinden ze weer een kind wat er op lijkt in timboektoe.
    Sukozondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 18:19
    quote:
    Op zondag 11 oktober 2009 17:50 schreef telavivnick het volgende:

    [..]

    dat laatste lig toch wel erg voor de hand.
    morgen vinden ze weer een kind wat er op lijkt in timboektoe.
    Wellicht.Nu het boek van Amal uit is in de uk worden ze misschien echt bang.Bekende mensen haken nu misshien wel af. Katten n het nauw maken sprongen.enze hebben machtige vriendjes, nog wel....tja De waarheid moet naar buiten komen ooit, kan niet anders!
    Sukozondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 18:44
    quote:
    Op zondag 11 oktober 2009 17:00 schreef Whiskey_Tango het volgende:

    [..]

    Ja dat blijkt maar weer, ik snap sowieso niet waarom of mensen zo erg meeleven met dat McCann gezin terwijl er vraagtekens aanwezig zijn bij de rol van de ouders, en als er dan iets gebeurd in Schubbekutteveen met eenzelfde gevolg (ontvoerd kind) dan worden er 5 minuten aan besteed in Hart van Nederland/RTL/NOS en dan is het weer van de hand.

    Ik heb dit werkelijk waar nooit begrepen wat er zo speciaal is aan die Maddie, en 't kan me werkelijk waar zo onderhand ook niks meer schelen ook, het is gewoon smakeloos hoe het uitgemelkt is.
    e hebben \zel een gigsntische mediapagGNE OPGEZET MET BEHULP VAN EEN PR-MAN, CLARENCE mITCHell,(LEES > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_MitchelleeN Een man met een enorme ervaring om iets inde publicieteit te zetten, werkte ook voor de Blair-regering.\heeft lijntjes naar mensen die er toedoen.Is ook vriendjes met Brown..Dan kom je ver, hel ver Maa waarom zou je als ouder een pr-man inhuren als je niks te verbergen hebt?????????? Something to hide?

    [ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 11-10-2009 18:49:45 ]
    telavivnickzondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 19:27
    quote:
    Op zondag 11 oktober 2009 18:19 schreef Suko het volgende:

    [..]

    Wellicht.Nu het boek van Amal uit is in de uk worden ze misschien echt bang.Bekende mensen haken nu misshien wel af. Katten n het nauw maken sprongen.enze hebben machtige vriendjes, nog wel....tja De waarheid moet naar buiten komen ooit, kan niet anders!
    en die zal uiteindelijk ook wel naar buiten komen die waarheid .

    ik vind ze vrij koud . zo reageer een wel denkend niet schuldig mens niet ,die zijn kind vermist .

    alleen je kinderen in een kamer laten en zelf weg gaan zonder babysiter . gaat er bij mij al niet in.
    laat staan ,het niet echt gaan zoeken na ze er achter kwam .
    livelinkzondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 19:35
    Tja, dat niet zoeken dat kan ik nog wel begrijpen, eigenlijk. Ik weet godzijdank niet hoe ik zijn in zo'n situatie, maar ik kan me voorstellen dat je helemaal lamgeslagen bent en niet in staat tot actie. Neemt niet weg dat ik de McCanns sowieso een heel raar stel vind, en het me nog steeds niks zou verbazen als ze zelf precies weten waar Madeleine nu is. Die link naar Zweden , je zou maar de pech hebben dat je kind een beetje op Madeleine lijkt
    Sukozondag 11 oktober 2009 @ 20:11
    quote:
    Op zondag 11 oktober 2009 19:35 schreef livelink het volgende:
    Tja, dat niet zoeken dat kan ik nog wel begrijpen, eigenlijk. Ik weet godzijdank niet hoe ik zijn in zo'n situatie, maar ik kan me voorstellen dat je helemaal lamgeslagen bent en niet in staat tot actie. Neemt niet weg dat ik de McCanns sowieso een heel raar stel vind, en het me nog steeds niks zou verbazen als ze zelf precies weten waar Madeleine nu is. Die link naar Zweden , je zou maar de pech hebben dat je kind een beetje op Madeleine lijkt
    Maar helemaal niet gasn zoeken?

    Sukomaandag 12 oktober 2009 @ 00:42
    Elke acvond warn ze weg en Gerry Mccann maar zeggen dat het net leek alsof ze in d achtertuin zaten, maar het lamgdurig gehuil van Maddie op een avond niet ghoord, zo dichtbij was het dus niet.De buurvrouw had nog bij de receptie geklaagd over datgehuil van madeleiene, die mensnen van de receptieZijn toen nog op zoek geggaan naar de\MCCANNS gewaarschud maartoch weer elke aond de hort op, wel ja,ho cares.Ook is vvaSTgestEeld Dat ze naar een kroegverderop gingen veel verder weg.dus.En er was wel opppas voorhanden, maar dat wilden ze niet dat waren dezelde personen van de Crèche waar ze elke dag werden geparkeerd.nota bene, dus vErtrouwd. Het bleek een vakantie vooral voor henzelfen hun vrienden veel tenissen en joggene uitgaan maar zich vooal niet bezighouden met de kinderen,allerminst! Voor mij zijn ze schuldig, alleen al om nalatigheid en verwaarlozing en dat in een vreemd land.Maleine had wel in een bouwput kunnen vallen , er waren daar veell van.En tOCH NIET zelf gaan zoeken, HOe is het mogelijk!
    Kaneelmaandag 12 oktober 2009 @ 11:16
    Dood door schuld en liegen tegen de rechterlijke macht, Gerry en Kate. Nou, sue me!
    kahaarinmaandag 12 oktober 2009 @ 12:21
    quote:
    Op maandag 12 oktober 2009 00:42 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Elke acvond warn ze weg en Gerry Mccann maar zeggen dat het net leek alsof ze in d achtertuin zaten, maar het lamgdurig gehuil van Maddie op een avond niet ghoord, zo dichtbij was het dus niet.De buurvrouw had nog bij de receptie geklaagd over datgehuil van madeleiene, die mensnen van de receptieZijn toen nog op zoek geggaan naar de\MCCANNS gewaarschud maartoch weer elke aond de hort op, wel ja,ho cares.Ook is vvaSTgestEeld Dat ze naar een kroegverderop gingen veel verder weg.dus.En er was wel opppas voorhanden, maar dat wilden ze niet dat waren dezelde personen van de Crèche waar ze elke dag werden geparkeerd.nota bene, dus vErtrouwd. Het bleek een vakantie vooral voor henzelfen hun vrienden veel tenissen en joggene uitgaan maar zich vooal niet bezighouden met de kinderen,allerminst! Voor mij zijn ze schuldig, alleen al om nalatigheid en verwaarlozing en dat in een vreemd land.Maleine had wel in een bouwput kunnen vallen , er waren daar veell van.En tOCH NIET zelf gaan zoeken, HOe is het mogelijk!
    Hi!
    Inderdaad, maar naar nu blijkt is het niet hun fout, de dader had een sleutel....

    Hebben jullie dit al gezien?
    quote:
    MADELEINE EXCLUSIVE: ALL THREE CHILDREN DRUGGED

    MISSING: Madeleine McCann
    Sunday October 11,2009
    By James Murray


    The kidnapper of Madeleine McCann drugged her and her twin brother and sister so they would all be quiet while she was snatched.

    A duplicate key may also have been used to gain entrance to the holiday apartment where the children were sleeping, say investigators.

    It means the monster is still a threat to children living or holidaying on Portugal’s Algarve and must be caught urgently as he is highly likely to reoffend.

    Former police detectives David Edgar and Arthur Cowley have spent months re-analysing every shred of evidence.

    They are convinced the ­abductor went to the family’s apartment on May 3 2007 fully prepared with sufficient drugs, probably ­chloroform, to knock out all three children.

    The fact that Sean and Amelie, then just 18 months old, failed to wake when the alarm was raised, nor even as they were taken to another apartment in the cold night air, has persuaded the detectives that they, too, must have been drugged.

    Had the twins been tested for drugs immediately, any ­medication used could have been established, making it easier to identify the kidnapper, but vital time was lost.

    (Goh hoe kan dat nou?)

    Chloroform can be made ­easily and other sedatives, such as the horse tranquilliser ketamine, are commonly in circulation in the criminal underworld.

    Even now, however, experts say there may be forensic clues on clothing or bedding which could yield a breakthrough.

    The Sunday Express can further reveal that the McCanns’ private detectives are working on a solid theory about exactly how Madeleine was abducted.

    Just as television investigator Donal MacIntyre suggested in this paper three weeks ago, they believe there was a dry run prior to the kidnap that fateful night at apartment 5a of the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz.

    While checking the layout of the apartment the night before, the kidnapper probably woke Sean, who in turn woke Madeleine. In the morning she had told Kate and Gerry she was frightened.

    The fact that the children woke up is thought to have persuaded the kidnapper to use knock-out drugs when he returned the next night to take Madeleine, three.

    On the question of the duplicate key, holidaymakers often left front door keys under the doormats during the day.
    A theory emerging is that the kidnapper had a duplicate key to apartment 5a, which could have been used on the night to enter by the front door.

    Mr Edgar and Mr Cowley do not believe Madeleine was taken through an open window as it would have been awkward, time consuming and there were no forensic clues left behind.

    It is far more likely, they say, that he simply walked out of the front door with her in his arms. It had been thought that the front door was double locked, making it impossible to open from the inside, but this doubt falls away if there was a duplicate key.

    (Mitchell spin anyone?)

    The theory suggests the ­kidnapper had been targeting the apartment for a long time and had a detailed knowledge of the lock system.

    (Tuurlijk, logisch, in dat appartement werden alle schattige meisjes van 3 jaar oud geplaatst en alle ouders die de kinderen alleen lieten.)

    With the front door unlocked, it is easy to simply pull a latch across to open it from the inside.

    Another possibility is that the front door was not double-locked when Kate and Gerry left through the unlocked patio doors to join their seven friends at the resort’s tapas bar some 30 metres from their apartment.

    (Dat controleer je ook niet als je 3 kids lekker liggen te slapen toch?)

    Meanwhile it emerged yesterday that the parents of a two-year-old girl who has gone missing in New Zealand are being ­supported by the ­McCanns.

    Aisling Symes vanished from a relative’s house in an Auckland suburb on Monday.

    Her mother Angela had been close by, standing beside a washing machine.

    There have been reports that the girl was later seen with a woman of Asian appearance.

    Detectives believe she was ­abducted. Despite repeated ­appeals for help their searches have so far drawn a blank.
    Kate and Gerry McCann said their “thoughts and prayers” were with the family.

    The little girl’s father, Allan Symes, who is originally from County Waterford in Ireland, made an emotional plea for her return, saying: “These recent days have proven to be the most harrowing of our lives; no sleep and we feel like we’re barely ­existing, just surviving every ­moment, not knowing where ­Aisling is.”

    It has also emerged that police in Sweden are trying to find a girl said to bear a resemblance to Madeleine after a photograph was posted on a website.

    (Ik dacht al, waar blijft het, een nieuwe sighting.)

    However, she does not appear to have the distinctive mark Madeleine has in her right eye.

    (Oh nee, toch niet....)
    Pietverdrietmaandag 12 oktober 2009 @ 12:31
    quote:
    Op maandag 12 oktober 2009 12:21 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

    [..]

    Hi!
    Inderdaad, maar naar nu blijkt is het niet hun fout, de dader had een sleutel....
    En wie hadden er een sleutel...
    Nou?
    Als de dader een sleutel had, maakt dat het idee dat de dader een extern persoon is alleen maar zwakker
    quote:
    Hebben jullie dit al gezien?
    [..]


    Daily Express, een standaard als het gaat om kwaliteitsjournalistiek
    kahaarinmaandag 12 oktober 2009 @ 12:49
    quote:
    Op maandag 12 oktober 2009 12:31 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

    En wie hadden er een sleutel...
    Nou?
    Als de dader een sleutel had, maakt dat het idee dat de dader een extern persoon is alleen maar zwakker
    Hmm, volgens het bericht is het standaard dat de sleutel onder de mat ligt....
    En wederom, natuurlijk is het appartement al heel lang in de gaten gehouden, alle jonge kinderen met ouders die het niet zo nauw nemen met toezicht komen in dat appartement terecht....
    quote:
    Daily Express, een standaard als het gaat om kwaliteitsjournalistiek

    Och, blijkbaar hebben ze banden met de detectives die de zaak onderzoeken, quote uit bericht: "Former police detectives David Edgar and Arthur Cowley have spent months re-analysing every shred of evidence.
    They are convinced the ­abductor went to the family’s apartment on May 3 2007 fully prepared with sufficient drugs, probably ­chloroform, to knock out all three children."

    Zegt misschien ook wel wat over de heren zelf....
    telavivnickdinsdag 13 oktober 2009 @ 21:22
    de verhalen worden steets knapper.
    ik las ook al dat er een mars mannetje haar uit haar bedje had gehaald .
    Marrijewoensdag 14 oktober 2009 @ 15:18
    Maar hoe zit het met dat meisje in Zweden? Is die al gevonden?
    kahaarinwoensdag 14 oktober 2009 @ 17:02
    quote:
    Op woensdag 14 oktober 2009 15:18 schreef Marrije het volgende:
    Maar hoe zit het met dat meisje in Zweden? Is die al gevonden?
    Nee nog niet, je bedoelt dit meisje toch?

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/s(...)ssing-Madeleine.html

    Het meisje uit Nieuw Zeeland, Aisling is wel gevonden....

    http://www.anorak.co.uk/m(...)ymes-body-found.html
    Marrijewoensdag 14 oktober 2009 @ 17:04
    Ja, die bedoel ik!
    kahaarinwoensdag 14 oktober 2009 @ 17:18
    quote:
    Op woensdag 14 oktober 2009 17:04 schreef Marrije het volgende:
    Ja, die bedoel ik!
    De McCanns hebben hun detectives er op gezet en de Zweedse politie geinformeerd, zal wel hetzelfde verhaal zijn als dat andere Zweedse meisje, Ylva of Alva, die was een dagje met haar oma naar het strand:
    quote:
    Stockholm police were called out to a local beach on Monday after a tip off that the kidnapped British girl Madeleine McCann had been spotted there.

    The tip off was by a father who believed that he had seen the missing Madeleine McCann at Flatenbadet in the southern Stockholm suburb of Bagarmossen, according to the Expressen newspaper.

    The mystery of Madeleine McCann - the girl who disappeared from a holiday apartment in Portugal in 2007 while her parents were having dinner with friends at a nearby restaurant - was not however solved at a Swedish bathing spot.

    "It was an Alva or Ylva who was out with her grandmother. So the police patrol left the scene without getting involved," Joakim Caryll at Stockholm police said to the newspaper.
    bron

    Er zijn in Zweden natuurlijk wel meer blonde meisjes die misschien wel wat van haar weg hebben.
    Marrijewoensdag 14 oktober 2009 @ 19:52
    quote:
    Op woensdag 14 oktober 2009 17:18 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

    [..]

    De McCanns hebben hun detectives er op gezet en de Zweedse politie geinformeerd, zal wel hetzelfde verhaal zijn als dat andere Zweedse meisje, Ylva of Alva, die was een dagje met haar oma naar het strand:
    [..]

    bron

    Er zijn in Zweden natuurlijk wel meer blonde meisjes die misschien wel wat van haar weg hebben.
    tegen beter weten in hoop je ergens toch dat het haar is
    kahaarindonderdag 15 oktober 2009 @ 12:30
    quote:
    Op woensdag 14 oktober 2009 19:52 schreef Marrije het volgende:

    tegen beter weten in hoop je ergens toch dat het haar is
    Dat is waar, helaas heb ik het vermoeden dat ze door dat media circus wat haar ouders in de benen hebben geholpen is 'verdwenen'. Hopelijk heb ik het fout. Ik vind het zo vreemd dat ze die vlek in haar ogen naar buiten hebben gebracht en het onderzoek hebben tegengewerkt. Natuurlijk hadden Sean en Amelie getest moeten worden op verdovende middelen en natuurlijk hadden ze open kaart moeten spelen maar helaas, dat is nu eenmaal niet gebeurd.
    Ik hoop dat ze haar vinden. Levend en wel en in goede gezondheid.
    kahaarinzondag 18 oktober 2009 @ 13:30
    Goh, dat ze hier nu pas mee komen....
    quote:
    The U.K.’s Sunday Express reports it has intervened in the search for missing Madeleine McCann, prompting officials to request satellite images from “US spy chiefs.”

    According to the Sunday edition report, the Leicestershire Police have never requested satellite views of Praia da Luz, Portugal, where the little girl disappeared over two years ago.

    A source with the Portuguese police told the Express that “We know U.S. spy satellites regularly sweep over Portugal looking at military installations and government facilities.”

    The source continued, “So we thought they might actually have image of Praia da Luz on the day of the kidnapping and the preceding days.”

    “We hoped spy images may have captured the kidnapper watching the apartment prior to the event or even on the day itself. Obviously, having a picture would have speeded up the apprehension of the offender,” said the source.

    According to the Express, the Portuguese source said Leicestershire Police and British officials have been told about the situation and the Portuguese police are “…confident of getting progress because of Gordon Brown’s interest in the case and this apparent special relationship between Britain and the United States.”

    The report indicates that Brown may speak directly to President Barack Obama about the issue to achieve cooperation in obtaining the satellite images.

    The Express reports it filed a Freedom of Information request upon the U.S. Government’s National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. Nonetheless, through a spokesperson, the agency told the Express “NGA does not provide imagery to private citizens or private companies. For reasons of national security we do not discuss specifics about what images we have or our capabilities.”

    Madeleine, who would now be six-years-old, disappeared in May 2007, during a family vacation in Portugal.
    Pietverdrietzondag 18 oktober 2009 @ 13:51
    Alsof sat opnames geschikt zijn om mensen te herkennen of nummerborden te lezen, wat een onzin.
    voyeurzondag 18 oktober 2009 @ 14:45
    quote:
    Op zondag 18 oktober 2009 13:51 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:
    Alsof sat opnames geschikt zijn om mensen te herkennen of nummerborden te lezen, wat een onzin.
    De militaire satellieten wel. Die hebben een spatial resolution in de buurt van de 1 cm.
    Pietverdrietzondag 18 oktober 2009 @ 14:53
    quote:
    Op zondag 18 oktober 2009 14:45 schreef voyeur het volgende:

    [..]

    De militaire satellieten wel. Die hebben een spatial resolution in de buurt van de 1 cm.
    Suuuure
    Heb je daar een degelijk bron van zonder alu hoedjes?
    voyeurzondag 18 oktober 2009 @ 15:51
    quote:
    Op zondag 18 oktober 2009 14:53 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

    [..]

    Suuuure
    Heb je daar een degelijk bron van zonder alu hoedjes?
    Het is geklassificeerde informatie zoals je ook wel weet. Er zijn dus geen harde bronnen, slechts aanwijzingen. Het feit dat de NRO verplicht werd om voor haar medium resolutie beelden commerciele aanbieders te gebruiken en vervolgens meldde dat daarvan de resolutie niet hoog genoeg was. De commerciele aanbieders boden 25 cm/pixel. Niet genoeg NRO eistte 10 cm. En dat voor de lmedium categorie. Er zi er nog een boven die veel gedetailleerder is en zich kan laten zakken om de resolutie te verhogen. Een cm is daarom niet zo'n gekke gok. Zie bijvoorbeeld dit artikel

    Maar als je er echt meer over wil weten moet je je door een berg literatuur worstelen en zal je nog steeds geen schriftelijke verklaring van de NRO ontvangen. Aluhoedjes en complottheorien heb je daar niet voor nodig.

    [ Bericht 3% gewijzigd door voyeur op 18-10-2009 16:50:39 ]
    Pietverdrietzondag 18 oktober 2009 @ 17:24
    quote:
    Op zondag 18 oktober 2009 15:51 schreef voyeur het volgende:

    [..]

    Het is geklassificeerde informatie zoals je ook wel weet. Er zijn dus geen harde bronnen, slechts aanwijzingen. Het feit dat de NRO verplicht werd om voor haar medium resolutie beelden commerciele aanbieders te gebruiken en vervolgens meldde dat daarvan de resolutie niet hoog genoeg was. De commerciele aanbieders boden 25 cm/pixel. Niet genoeg NRO eistte 10 cm. En dat voor de lmedium categorie. Er zi er nog een boven die veel gedetailleerder is en zich kan laten zakken om de resolutie te verhogen. Een cm is daarom niet zo'n gekke gok. Zie bijvoorbeeld dit artikel

    Maar als je er echt meer over wil weten moet je je door een berg literatuur worstelen en zal je nog steeds geen schriftelijke verklaring van de NRO ontvangen. Aluhoedjes en complottheorien heb je daar niet voor nodig.
    10 cm is nog altijd een factor 100 verwijderd van 1 cm (en nee dat is geen rekenfout)
    25 cm een 625 maal zo lage resolutie
    kahaarinmaandag 19 oktober 2009 @ 10:33
    quote:
    Op zondag 18 oktober 2009 17:24 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

    [..]

    10 cm is nog altijd een factor 100 verwijderd van 1 cm (en nee dat is geen rekenfout)
    25 cm een 625 maal zo lage resolutie
    Dus zouden we kunnen concluderen dat als er beelden zijn, er wel op uit gemaakt kan worden of er idd een iemand het appartement in de gaten aan het houden was of dat de McCanns/tapas 9 rare activiteiten hebben uitgevoerd, toch?

    Hmm, blijkbaar was er toch al eerder sprake van het bekijken van sattellietbelden.
    Ondertussen in Anorak:
    quote:
    SATELLITE CLUE TO MADDIE KIDNAP

    HOME Secretary Alan Johnson is prepared to ask US spy chiefs for satellite images which may show the face of Madeleine McCann’s kidnapper, following intervention by the Sunday Express.

    Well done to the Express for coming up with a new angle on the Our Maddie story, and making itself a part of the story.
    Anorak readers may recall this news from 28th, September 2007:

    DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE. SPY-IN-SKY PLAN TO FIND HER KIDNAPPER.”

    “Satellite and aerial footage as well as internet traffic should be used to help the hunt,” say “intelligence experts”, including Professor Anthony Glees, Director of Brunel University’s Centre for Intelligence and Security Studies. Security is his thing.


    That was taken from a letter to the Times.

    So what changed in making this news once more - other than the Express’s need for a story? Alan Johnson is now a front-line politician – he may yet lead the Labour Party – and as such he needs to wear his heart on his sleeve. Can he find Our Maddie?

    Hope of new progress came after it emerged Leicestershire Police never made a formal request to the Home Office for views of Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve at the time the little girl vanished in May 2007.

    Hope of progress because something was not done? And then this loaded opinion by James Murray of the Maddie News Beat.

    The quality of pictures taken by satellites in space is now so good they can reputedly identify the colour of someone’s eyes.

    Reputedly, eh. Got any evidence of that? And what if the target declines to look up?

    Last night a senior source with the Portuguese police said: “We know US spy satellites regularly sweep over Portugal looking at military installations and government facilities. So we thought they might actually have images of Praia da Luz on the day of the kidnapping and the preceding days.

    Well, they might. It is possible. Any amateur space watchers who track satellites know?

    “We hoped spy images may have captured the kidnapper watching the apartment prior to the event or even on the day itself. Obviously, having a picture would have speeded up the apprehension of the offender.”

    And from all the pictures of the tops of heads and faces, the Portuguese police will track down everyone in the images, eliminating each as they go? Anyone they can’t tracks down will be a person of interest? So long as the alleged kidnapper has a natural luminous green head of hair it’s a mighty plan. It can’t fail. And what of those bungling Portuguese police, mocked by the fine British press which then went on to libel the McCanns?

    Yet more than two years after Madeleine was snatched no help has been forthcoming, despite early requests from senior Portuguese detectives.

    And now?

    Last night a spokesman for Mr Johnson said extensive checks within the security intelligence community had failed to discover any formal request ever having come to them through Leicestershire Police from Portugal. However, he said that if a request were now made Mr Johnson would see whether he could offer any assistance in trying to persuade the Americans to become co-operative.

    Would. Whether. If… Want more facts? At least we now know that the Americans are to blame, then. This might test the resolve of that special relationship.

    The issue appears so sensitive that Prime Minister Mr Brown may have to speak directly to US President Barack Obama in order to achieve co-operation.

    If Obama will speak to Brown.

    The Sunday Express sought explanations for the extraordinary situation from the US government’s ultra- secretive National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency. The agency’s lawyers are now considering a Freedom of Information request from the Sunday Express. A spokesman for the agency said: “NGA does not provide imagery to private citizens or private companies. For reasons of national security we do not discuss specifics about what images we have or our capabilities.”

    Is this the biggest non-story of the year? No images of Madeleine McCann on satellite. Maybe.
    telavivnickdinsdag 20 oktober 2009 @ 08:57
    zal wat zijn om moeder en vader met een vuilniszak naar buiten te zien lopen .op de sateliet beelden .

    raar dat er nog geen reakties van hun zijn gekomen ..?? of heb ik iets over het hoofd gezien ?
    kahaarindinsdag 20 oktober 2009 @ 10:57
    quote:
    Op dinsdag 20 oktober 2009 08:57 schreef telavivnick het volgende:
    zal wat zijn om moeder en vader met een vuilniszak naar buiten te zien lopen .op de sateliet beelden .

    raar dat er nog geen reakties van hun zijn gekomen ..?? of heb ik iets over het hoofd gezien ?
    Hmm, idd, hoe dan ook hopelijk komt er wat uit.

    Alleen maar dat Gordon Brown persoonlijk aan Barack Obama zal vragen of ze de beelden mogen zien als het nodig is, verder alleen maar statements van woordvoerders, niets van Gerry of Kate zelf, we wachten af.
    Sukowoensdag 21 oktober 2009 @ 15:14
    Nieuwsvn Nigel.Satellites were deviated on the night of the crime Correio da Manhã er ststaat nog meer op die site.Nah, dat was het maar weer, tot een volgende keer.
    #ANONIEMwoensdag 21 oktober 2009 @ 15:26
    Ik heb uit betrouwbare bron vernomen dat de zogenaamde ouders van het meisje, het meisje gewoon verzonnen hebben om in de publiciteit te geraken. Sterker nog. Die moeder bestaat ook niet en is er bij gefotosoept. Daarnaast bestaat dat hele apartementencomplex niet waar de zogenaamde ouders en het het meisje hun vakantie gevierd zouden hebben.

    Kortom, jullie worden vreselijk in de zeik genomen.
    Marrijewoensdag 21 oktober 2009 @ 15:36
    Jokkebrok
    Sukowoensdag 21 oktober 2009 @ 19:52
    quote:
    Op woensdag 21 oktober 2009 15:26 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:
    Ik heb uit betrouwbare bron vernomen dat de zogenaamde ouders van het meisje, het meisje gewoon verzonnen hebben om in de publiciteit te geraken. Sterker nog. Die moeder bestaat ook niet en is er bij gefotosoept. Daarnaast bestaat dat hele apartementencomplex niet waar de zogenaamde ouders en het het meisje hun vakantie gevierd zouden hebben.

    Kortom, jullie worden vreselijk in de zeik genomen.
    \ik ben allnsng al iin een stdium dat ik zowat alles gelooof, zelfs deze throrie. neu, toch maar niet. :
    kahaarindonderdag 22 oktober 2009 @ 10:35
    quote:
    Op woensdag 21 oktober 2009 15:14 schreef Suko het volgende:
    Nieuwsvn Nigel.Satellites were deviated on the night of the crime Correio da Manhã er ststaat nog meer op die site.Nah, dat was het maar weer, tot een volgende keer.
    Oh natuurlijk, net dan....

    Magoed, dat kan natuurlijk ook niet waar zijn, toch?
    voyeurvrijdag 30 oktober 2009 @ 22:27
    Book News
    The first few days after the Faked Abduction website (http://fakedabduction.com/) was launched has produced a phenomenal response from around the globe. Thank you for the numerous kind comments and emails sent to the website. Many people are asking to see a chapter listing or some excerpts. Please keep an eye out for updates on the website or by way of these newsletters for publication news etc. As soon as we know dates, prices, and shipping information, we will update the site accordingly.

    There are of course many forces in England trying to prevent publication of Faked Abduction and many of you are familiar with the McCanns’ lawyers in London – Carter Ruck.

    The Copyright Deception
    In this newsletter we thought we’d share some of their underhand tactics with you so you can see at first hand how the McCanns and their lawyers set out to gag people as well as deceive.

    On September 22, 2009, Carter Ruck wrote a letter to the website hosts for the Madeleine Foundation’s website (here) claiming that the use of an image of Madeleine McCann was in violation of the McCanns’ copyright.

    The exact wording used in the letter was “The material which infringes our clients copyright…” and they then go on to describe three instances where that image was used on the website.

    On the final page of the letter they state “We are further instructed that the information in this notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury our clients have confirmed they are the owners of exclusive rights to the material in question, that is being infringed.”

    Now on the face of it, this seems like a reasonable point. The McCanns are claiming to own the exclusive rights in an image that they didn’t license for use on that website.

    But hang on a moment…

    Do the McCanns own this photo and an exclusive right to the use of the image?

    Not according to Getty Images they don’t.

    This particular image of Madeleine is available to license from their website at http://gettyimages.com/

    You can find the photo of Madeleine (number 74137789) on this page: http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&p=madeleine%20mccann&assetType=image#15

    To license the photo for use on a website is typically about $108 for 3 months and $286 for a year.

    Now who has deceived who? The McCanns are stating under penalty of perjury that they are the owners of exclusive rights to that image. Is Getty Images in violation of this copyright? Surely Getty Images are licensing that image unlawfully if Carter Ruck and the McCanns are to be believed. Are Getty Images deceiving us? Are the McCanns deceiving their lawyers or are Carter Ruck just trying it on?

    You will also notice that Isobel Hudson wrote “NOT FOR PUBLICATION” on their letter to GoDaddy. Well, good old Bob Parsons was about as interested in that statement as we are so we thought you’d like to see the correspondence for yourself.

    Enjoy!


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    voyeurvrijdag 30 oktober 2009 @ 22:31
    quote:
    Op zondag 18 oktober 2009 17:24 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

    [..]

    10 cm is nog altijd een factor 100 verwijderd van 1 cm (en nee dat is geen rekenfout)
    25 cm een 625 maal zo lage resolutie
    Jij hebt niet gelezen. Medium quaility is volgens DoD 10 cm. Wat zou dan de high quaility zijn? Veel deskundgen denken dat het 1 cm zal zijn omdat die satellieten zich kunnen laten zakken. Verder zijn ze maatje schoolbus wat een gigantische optische spiegel kan huisbergen. Maar jij je zin we houden het op 3 cm.

    Dat rekenen kan ik trouwens ook zelf wel hoor.
    Sukodinsdag 3 november 2009 @ 11:23
    Met een nieuw filmpje in 7 talen van
    Madelieine als 6-jarige, donkerder germaakt: http://ceop.police.uk/madeleine/madeleine.asp http://ceop.police.uk/madeleine/madeleine. de ouders waren vanmorgens te gast bij de BBC, Sam old crap-talk.


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    aychellewoensdag 4 november 2009 @ 17:47
    Ben je blank, blond en schattig en ook nog eens vermist. Dan kun je er zeker van zijn dat de hele wereld naar je zoekt. Sorrie, maar waarom zoveel aandacht naar één kind. Er worden zoveel kinderen vermist, rode, bruine en zwarte kinderen maar blijkbaar zijn die niet belangrijk genoeg. Walgelijk ... net als die natalie holloway
    Whiskey_Tangowoensdag 4 november 2009 @ 17:48
    Die tweede foto, daar lijkt ze net een schoorsteenveegster zeg.
    kahaarindonderdag 2 september 2010 @ 18:41
    Zowaar, Maddy nieuws:

    quote:
    Door: MSN-redactie, 2-9-2010
    'Maddie werd ontvoerd op bestelling'

    © AP

    Seriepedofiel Raymond Hewlett heeft op zijn sterfbed gezegd dat hij weet wat er met Madeleine McCann is gebeurd. Hewlitt is verdachte in de verdwijningszaak van het Britse meisje. In een brief aan zijn zoon Wayne, met wie Hewlett al jaren geen contact had, zegt hij dat hij niets met de kidnapping te maken heeft. Wel weet hij dat Maddie mogelijk op bestelling is ontvoerd.

    Het meisje zou volgens Hewlett in opdracht van een rijk echtpaar in mei 2007 door een bende zigeuners zijn ontvoerd en meegenomen naar Portugal. Maddie was daar met haar ouders op vakantie. De groep zou een boodschappenlijstje hebben met potentiële slachtoffers. Die bestond vooral uit meisjes met blond haar zoals Maddie.

    Hoewel Hewlett zelf is gezien bij de plek waar Madeleine verdween, zijn privédetectives die werken voor de McCAnns erg geïnteresseerd in de informatie van de stervende pedofiel. De claim van Hewlett komt namelijk overeen met eerdere theorieën die uitgingen van ontvoering op bestelling. Daarbij was Hewlett bevriend met Portugese zigeuners. En een paar dagen na de verdwijning zou Maddie door een Britse toerist zijn gezien in een wit bestelbusje met een aantal zigeuners.

    Wayne is aangedaan door de brief van zijn vader. Toch gaat hij binnenkort met de ouders van Maddie en hun detectives om tafel zitten om hen de brief te laten lezen en te vertellen wat hij weet.
    Hopelijk vinden ze haar nu eindelijk......
    NorthernStardonderdag 2 september 2010 @ 19:28
    quote:
    Op donderdag 2 september 2010 18:41 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
    Zowaar, Maddy nieuws:
    [..]

    Hopelijk vinden ze haar nu eindelijk......
    Zie ook dit topic: Stervende pedofiel: Maddie werd ontvoerd op bestelling

    Totaal ongeloofwaardig verhaal imo.
    kahaarindonderdag 2 september 2010 @ 20:06
    quote:
    Op donderdag 2 september 2010 19:28 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

    [..]

    Zie ook dit topic: Stervende pedofiel: Maddie werd ontvoerd op bestelling

    Totaal ongeloofwaardig verhaal imo.
    Weet niet, ik denk dat het hem dwars zit, anders maak je je daar op je sterfbed niet druk om, toch? Wie weet, dit is nog steeds zo frustrerend, ze kunnen verdorie foto's maken van straten, in detail, via GOOGLE maps maar een kind terug vinden, dood of levend, lukt niet, Zo vreemd dit, al vanaf het begin is alles zo vreemd gelopen....
    NorthernStardonderdag 2 september 2010 @ 20:21
    quote:
    Op donderdag 2 september 2010 20:06 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

    [..]

    Weet niet, ik denk dat het hem dwars zit, anders maak je je daar op je sterfbed niet druk om, toch?
    Nog afgezien van de ongeloofwaardige inhoud, de zoon kan de veronderstelde brief niet eens tonen.

    Wayne told The Sun the letter had unnerved him so much he burned it, but he now wants to talk to police about what it had said. [bron]

    En proberen te achterhalen of er ooit via de post een brief is bezorgt heeft ook geen zin want

    A week after his death, Hewlett's son Wayne was delivered a letter by a "mystery man"

    Wat een onzin. Die Raymond Hewlett is dood, dus die kan niks meer gevraagd worden. Waarom zou de zoon dan met zo'n verhaal komen? Sommige mensen doen alles voor geld. De mythe dat Maddy ontvoerd en nog ergens in leven is voort laten duren is anderen wellicht veel waard.
    kahaarindonderdag 2 september 2010 @ 20:26
    quote:
    Op donderdag 2 september 2010 20:21 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

    [..]

    Nog afgezien van de ongeloofwaardige inhoud, de zoon kan de veronderstelde brief niet eens tonen.

    Wayne told The Sun the letter had unnerved him so much he burned it, but he now wants to talk to police about what it had said. [bron]

    En proberen te achterhalen of er ooit via de post een brief is bezorgt heeft ook geen zin want

    A week after his death, Hewlett's son Wayne was delivered a letter by a "mystery man"

    Wat een onzin. Die Raymond Hewlett is dood, dus die kan niks meer gevraagd worden. Waarom zou de zoon dan met zo'n verhaal komen? Sommige mensen doen alles voor geld. De mythe dat Maddy ontvoerd en nog ergens in leven is, is anderen wellicht veel waard.
    Tja, aandacht is aandacht idd, jij verdenkt de McCann spin lobby?
    NorthernStardonderdag 2 september 2010 @ 20:26
    quote:
    Op donderdag 2 september 2010 20:26 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

    [..]

    Tja, aandacht is aandacht idd, jij verdenkt de McCann spin lobby?
    :Y

    Ik beken. :P
    kahaarindonderdag 2 september 2010 @ 20:27
    quote:
    Op donderdag 2 september 2010 20:26 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

    [..]

    :Y

    Ik beken. :P
    Oooh!! Ik bel The Sun! ;)
    dylanyzondag 5 september 2010 @ 15:48
    Hier loopt ook een een topic over Mc. Cann.

    Stervende pedofiel: Maddie werd ontvoerd op bestelling
    kahaarinzondag 5 september 2010 @ 18:50
    quote:
    Op zondag 5 september 2010 15:48 schreef dylany het volgende:
    Hier loopt ook een een topic over Mc. Cann.

    Stervende pedofiel: Maddie werd ontvoerd op bestelling
    Oh maar dit is al een hele oude en bovendien staat er erg veel info in de OP, misschien leuk om er ook bij te hebben? :)
    dylanywoensdag 8 september 2010 @ 18:01
    http://joana-morais.blogs(...)als-family-home.html

    quote:
    McCanns want Amaral's family home

    Sofia Leal & Gonçalo Amaral have been married for the last eight years and have two young daughters

    “I will not get divorced. That would be a fraud. Our family lives in full communion [unity].”

    Sofia Leal, who has been married for the last eight years with the former Judiciary Police coordinator Gonçalo Amaral, reacted indignantly upon being notified with a citation requested by the McCanns, to proceed with a separation of assets in order to allow the arrest of a house in the municipality of Olhão, within the scope of a 1.2 million euros claim.
    Tja, Nina Brink is er niets bij.

    Het past wel bij het beeld van ik van Maddy's ouders heb gekregen trouwens, dus het verbaast me niets. >:O
    Frutseldinsdag 14 december 2010 @ 16:03
    quote:
    Engelse politie 'ontwikkelde bewijs tegen McCanns'
    AMSTERDAM - Je zou het bijna vergeten in de huidige nieuwsmaatschappij, waar een item na 24 uur al 'oud' is. Nu, ruim twee weken nadat WikiLeaks de eerste diplomatieke cables publiceerde, is nog steeds maar een kleine hoeveelheid van de 250.000 geheime documenten online. Daarom geeft vk.nl dagelijks een update met de nieuwste onthullingen.

    Madeleine McCann
    De Engelse politie heeft hun Portugese collega's geholpen met het 'ontwikkelen' van bewijs tegen de ouders van Madeleine McCann, het meisje dat spoorloos verdween in 2007. Dit staat in een gelekt diplomatiek document dat door de Britse krant The Guardian is onthuld.

    De Amerikaanse ambassadeur in Portugal, All Hoffman, hoorde dit van zijn Britse collega Alexander Wykeham Ellis. Hun ontmoeting vond plaats vlak nadat de Portugese politie de ouders van Madeleine officieel als verdachten had bestempeld. De McCann's hebben altijd gesteld dat 'er absoluut geen bewijs was dat ze iets te maken hebben met de verdwijning van hun dochter'.

    In de diplomatieke cable stelt Hoffman dat 'Ellis, zonder in te gaan op de details, vertelde dat de Britse politie het toenmalige bewijs had ontwikkeld'. Verder zouden de Britse en Portugese regering 'hierin met elkaar samenwerken'. De Brit vond ook dat 'de overweldigende media-aandacht te verwachten viel en acceptabel was, zolang de twee landen achter gesloten deuren bleven samenwerken'.

    Spoorloze verdwijning
    In mei 2007 verdween Madeleine McCann spoorloos uit een vakantiehuisje in Portugal. Haar ouders waren op dat moment niet in het huisje, maar in een nabij gelegen restaurant. Er ontstond een enorme mediahype, vooral aangewakkerd door de Britse Boulevardpers. Uiteindelijk werden zelfs de ouders van Madeleine zelf verdacht.

    Op 21 juli 2008 liet de Portugese politie officieel weten dat de ouders niet langer verdacht waren. Madeleine is nooit gevonden. Er is zeker een Britse speurhond in het onderzoek gebruikt. Een woordvoerder van de Britse politie stelt tegen The Guardian dat er alleen geholpen is met het coördineren van het onderzoek door Britse instanties dat op verzoek van Portugal werd uitgevoerd.
    RijstNatievrijdag 17 december 2010 @ 12:10
    Dit meisje is inmiddels al rijp voor de prostitutie.
    zal wel achter de ramen staan in Dubai
    Frutseldonderdag 20 januari 2011 @ 15:35
    quote:
    Zakenman ziet Maddie in Dubai

    DUBAI - De Britse Maddie McCann is mogelijk gezien in Dubai. Een zakenman beweert dat hij er vorig jaar in november een meisje dat op Maddie lijkt, heeft zien wandelen in de buurt van een winkelcentrum. Bij haar waren twee vrouwen en een man, die dan weer sprekend leek op de robotfoto van de mogelijke verdachte in de ontvoeringszaak. Dat meldt The Sun.

    Volgens de krant lichtte een niet nader genoemde 35-jarige zakenman de politie in. Volgens de getuige ging het om de verdachte, omdat hij een eng gezicht had, een snor en erg mager was.

    "Bij hem was ook een erg magere vrouw en een zwarte vrouw met een sluier. Achter hen liep een klein meisje, ongeveer zeven of acht jaar oud. De gelijkenis met Maddie was treffend", aldus de zakenman. "Ze had lichtbruin haar. Maar het waren haar neus en ogen die me deden denken aan het vermiste meisje."

    Interpol en privé-detectives, ingehuurd door Maddie's ouders Kate en Gerry, onderzoeken de nieuwe tip. Maddie was drie toen ze verdween tijdens een familievakantie in het Portugese Praia da Luz in mei 2007.
    galtfactoryvrijdag 21 januari 2011 @ 18:06
    Ik vrees dat dit een zoektocht zonder einde wordt.
    kahaarinvrijdag 21 januari 2011 @ 18:10
    quote:
    2s.gif Op vrijdag 21 januari 2011 18:06 schreef galtfactory het volgende:
    Ik vrees dat dit een zoektocht zonder einde wordt blijft.
    Daar ben ik ook bang voor, de enige mogelijkheid is dat er iemand ooit een keer gaat praten anders komen we er niet achter. Maar goed, iedere sighting is er 1, wie weet....
    Frutselvrijdag 18 februari 2011 @ 12:29
    quote:
    'Maddie mogelijk in de VS'
    AMSTERDAM - Madeleine 'Maddie' McCann, het meisje dat bijna vier jaar geleden in Portugal verdween, kan in de Verenigde Staten zijn. Wellicht is ze door een pedofiele smokkelbende uit Portugal ontvoerd. Dat heeft een privédetective tegen de Daily Mail gezegd.

    Volgens privédetective Marcelino Italiano (36) smokkelde een bende in de Algarve Maddie uit Portugal en verblijft ze nu mogelijk in de VS. Er zijn berichten dat het kind gezien is in Noord-Amerika, Tasmanië en Dubai. De Portugese politie en privédetectives onderzoeken dat.

    Italiano zegt dat de politie de namen van twee mogelijke verdachten heeft doorgespeeld. "Ik denk dat die mensen erbij betrokken waren en mij werd verteld dat Madeleine nu in Amerika zou zijn. Ik kan niet zeggen hoe, maar ik heb die mensen gekend en zij denken dat zij met alles weg kunnen komen", zegt hij tegen de Daily Mail.

    Maddie was bijna 4 jaar toen ze verdween op 3 mei 2007. Haar ouders dineerden verderop in een plaatselijk restaurantje. Toen ze thuis kwamen ontdekten ze dat hun meisje weg was uit het vakantieappartement dat haar ouders in de badplaats Praia da Luz hadden gehuurd. De ouders werden een tijd van betrokkenheid verdacht, maar het officiële onderzoek werd in juli 2008 stopgezet.
    Ze vliegt wel de hele wereld over, paar weken terug was ze in Dubai :{
    kahaarinvrijdag 18 februari 2011 @ 14:47
    quote:
    Italiano zegt dat de politie de namen van twee mogelijke verdachten heeft doorgespeeld. "Ik denk dat die mensen erbij betrokken waren en mij werd verteld dat Madeleine nu in Amerika zou zijn. Ik kan niet zeggen hoe, maar ik heb die mensen gekend en zij denken dat zij met alles weg kunnen komen", zegt hij tegen de Daily Mail.
    Hmm, ook al gaat het niet om Maddie, dit zou wel eens een beerput kunnen zijn.
    Harajuku.vrijdag 13 mei 2011 @ 12:02
    quote:
    De Britse politie gaat proberen het onderzoek naar de verdwijning vier jaar geleden van Madeleine (Maddie) McCann in Portugal vlot te trekken. Dat heeft het ministerie van Binnenlandse Zaken vrijdag bekendgemaakt, meldden Britse media.

    De toen bijna 4-jarige Maddie verdween begin mei 2007 spoorloos toen zij met haar ouders op vakantie was in Portugal. De autoriteiten daar staakten de zoektocht in juli 2008, maar de ouders van het meisje hebben de hoop nog niet opgegeven. Zij deden donderdag, op Maddie's achtste verjaardag, in boulevardblad The Sun een emotionele oproep om door te gaan met het onderzoek.

    Premier David Cameron liet vrijdag in een open brief in diezelfde krant weten dat hij de Britse politie opdracht heeft gegeven alle aanwijzingen nog eens tegen het licht te houden. Hij noemde Maddie's verdwijning de ergst denkbare nachtmerrie voor elke ouder.
    Harajuku.vrijdag 13 mei 2011 @ 12:03
    2007, wat is het eigenlijk alweer lang geleden.
    Sam-xvrijdag 13 mei 2011 @ 12:25
    Vandaag is haar verjaardag, 8 jaar wordt ze.
    Blaxjevrijdag 13 mei 2011 @ 19:17
    Aardig dat ze 'm gaan heropenen. Zal niet veel uit komen. Verwijt de ouders nog steeds veel, klopt iig geen ruk van hun getuigenissen.
    Spezza19zondag 22 mei 2011 @ 13:09
    Ik ben nog steeds van mening dat de ouders er achter zitten.....
    Frutseldonderdag 28 juli 2011 @ 14:17
    'Toeristen spotten Maddie in India, DNA-test afgenomen'
    Chelle23donderdag 28 juli 2011 @ 22:11
    Ik heb pas geleden het boek gelezen van Kate McCann gelezen, erg verhelderd.

    Ik verdacht de ouders toch best wel, maar er worden veel dingen duidelijk, en veel valse pers berichten zijn ontkracht.

    Toch goed om een duidelijk beeld te krijgen van dat proces wat hun zijn door gegaan.

    Ik ben t lang niet eens met de vele dingen die ze hebben gedaan, maar ik geloof niet dat zij hun dochtertje zelf wat hebben aangedaan.


    Wat zal het super zijn als het meisje in India ook daadwerlijk Madeleine is.
    Harajuku.donderdag 28 juli 2011 @ 22:16
    Ben je op vakantie met je gezin, word je ineens beticht van het ontvoeren van een kind :') Beetje raar. En die vent die het kind zelf wel even van de ouders zou afpakken 8)7
    Marie30donderdag 28 juli 2011 @ 22:18
    quote:
    0s.gif Op donderdag 28 juli 2011 22:11 schreef Chelle23 het volgende:
    Ik heb pas geleden het boek gelezen van Kate McCann gelezen, erg verhelderd.

    Ik verdacht de ouders toch best wel, maar er worden veel dingen duidelijk, en veel valse pers berichten zijn ontkracht.

    Toch goed om een duidelijk beeld te krijgen van dat proces wat hun zijn door gegaan.

    Ik ben t lang niet eens met de vele dingen die ze hebben gedaan, maar ik geloof niet dat zij hun dochtertje zelf wat hebben aangedaan.


    Wat zal het super zijn als het meisje in India ook daadwerlijk Madeleine is.
    Is dat boek hier al verkrijgbaar? Of enkel in UK?
    livelinkvrijdag 29 juli 2011 @ 08:01
    Het boek is ook in Nederland verkrijgbaar zie hier

    Ik ben wel nieuwsgierig, zeker na de reactie van Chelle23, maar om er nou zoveel geld aan uit te geven? Ik denk dat alles over Madeleine nou eigenlijk wel gezegd en geschreven is, zonder dat we een stap dichter bij de waarheid zijn gekomen. Of de McCanns het nou zelf gedaan hebben of niet, ik blijf het idee houden dat zij en hun vriendenclub nooit helemaal de waarheid hebben verteld over die vakantie. Kennelijk weet Kate dat dus in haar boek overtuigend te ontkrachten.
    Arceevrijdag 29 juli 2011 @ 09:07
    quote:
    Meisje in India toch niet Maddie

    AMSTERDAM - Volgens Kate en Gerry McCann, de ouders van het vermiste meisje Madeleine, is het meisje dat in India werd gezien door toeristen zeker niet hun dochter. Volgens het echtpaar gaat het slechts om een kind dat op Maddie lijkt.


    De Britse vrouw en de Amerikaanse man hadden het meisje vrijdag samen met een koppel in het stadje Leh in de Himalaya gezien. Omdat het kind sterk op Maddie zou lijken, schopte de vrouw stennis met het koppel, dat ze ervan beschuldigde Maddie bij zich te hebben.
    De Amerikaan wilde het meisje wegtrekken van haar ouders, een Belgische man en een Franse vrouw. Het meisje, dat vloeiend Frans sprak, had zelf te kennen gegeven dat het koppel bij wie ze was wel degelijk haar ouders waren. DNA-tests moeten nog uitwijzen of het kind daadwerkelijk van het Frans-Belgische echtpaar is.
    Toch gaven de McCann's donderdagavond direct uitsluitsel op basis van de foto's in India. Het was niet Maddie. Het laatste sprankje hoop dat het stel nog koestert om hun dochter terug te vinden, is daarmee opnieuw geslonken...
    Madeleine is inmiddels al meer dan vier jaar vermist. In mei 2007, vlak voor de vierde verjaardag van het meisje, verdween ze uit een appartement in het Portugese Praia da Laz. Ondanks een grootschalig onderzoek en wereldwijde publiciteit is zij nooit teruggevonden. De Portugese politie heeft het onderzoek naar de vermissing van Maddie officieel afgesloten in 2008, maar de privédetectives van de familie McCann zijn nog altijd op zoek.
    Marie30vrijdag 29 juli 2011 @ 12:52
    quote:
    0s.gif Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 08:01 schreef livelink het volgende:
    Het boek is ook in Nederland verkrijgbaar zie hier

    Dankjewel :*
    Chelle23vrijdag 29 juli 2011 @ 22:58
    Het boek is erg ophelderend.

    Ik liet me erg meeslepen met de media, logisch, andere verhalen hoorde ik gewoon niet.
    Maar veel dingen die ik dacht dat zijn gebeurd is dus niet zo of waren heel anders als wat er ooit is geschreven.

    Ik vind dat ze veel rare keuzes hebben gemaakt, tijdens dat hun gingen eten waren de balkon deuren bijv niet op slot ??
    Ook na de ontvoering elke x de tweeling naar de opvang gebracht,het lijkt mij dat je je kinderen na zoiets verschrikkelijks 24/7 in t oog wil houden.... sowieso waren de kinderen veel bij de opvang die gehele vakantie... erg raar vind ik dat, maar dat kan aan mij liggen.
    Harajuku.vrijdag 29 juli 2011 @ 23:01
    Mja, ik hecht weinig waarde aan een boek door hen geschreven, eigenlijk.
    Ciske-zaterdag 30 juli 2011 @ 18:51
    Ik ook Harajuku. Ondanks dat zou ik het boek weleens (kritisch) willen lezen en dan het boek van Amaral ernaast. Dan kun je iig de gegevens uit de eerste hand met elkaar vergelijken, want er is zoveel bullshit geschreven in de pers omtrent deze zaak dat je niet meer weet wat nou wel en wat geen hout snijdt..
    livelinkzaterdag 30 juli 2011 @ 21:48
    quote:
    0s.gif Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 22:58 schreef Chelle23 het volgende:
    Het boek is erg ophelderend.

    Ik liet me erg meeslepen met de media, logisch, andere verhalen hoorde ik gewoon niet.
    Maar veel dingen die ik dacht dat zijn gebeurd is dus niet zo of waren heel anders als wat er ooit is geschreven.

    Ik vind dat ze veel rare keuzes hebben gemaakt, tijdens dat hun gingen eten waren de balkon deuren bijv niet op slot ??
    Ook na de ontvoering elke x de tweeling naar de opvang gebracht,het lijkt mij dat je je kinderen na zoiets verschrikkelijks 24/7 in t oog wil houden.... sowieso waren de kinderen veel bij de opvang die gehele vakantie... erg raar vind ik dat, maar dat kan aan mij liggen.
    Ik heb me indertijd toch wel afgevraagd wat de tweeling er nou allemaal van meegekregen heeft. Zij hebben misschien wel gezien wat er gebeurd is.
    Marie30zaterdag 30 juli 2011 @ 23:57
    quote:
    0s.gif Op zaterdag 30 juli 2011 21:48 schreef livelink het volgende:

    [..]

    Ik heb me indertijd toch wel afgevraagd wat de tweeling er nou allemaal van meegekregen heeft. Zij hebben misschien wel gezien wat er gebeurd is.
    Die waren te klein en lagen zeer vast te slapen. Zo vast, dat ze niet eens wakker werden van Kate haar geschreeuw, de politie, alle mensen en commotie bij opmerking vermissing... nog een reden waarom ik altijd gedacht heb dat die kids gedrogeerd waren (of eventueel werden op regelmatige basis).

    [ Bericht 2% gewijzigd door Marie30 op 31-07-2011 00:02:51 ]
    Spezza19zaterdag 30 juli 2011 @ 23:59
    quote:
    10s.gif Op vrijdag 29 juli 2011 23:01 schreef Harajuku. het volgende:
    Mja, ik hecht weinig waarde aan een boek door hen geschreven, eigenlijk.
    Me too... :)

    Ik ben er nog steeds van overtuigd dat die ouders er achter zitten. Kijk hoeveel geld ze inmiddels hebben vergaard met die donaties en dat boek.

    It's all about the money.
    livelinkzondag 31 juli 2011 @ 12:01
    Over dat gedrogeerd zijn, daar schijnt Kate iets in haar boek over te hebben geschreven.
    Zie onder een stuk van een criminal profiler hierover.

    Kate McCann has a new book out, Madeleine, an incredible self-serving propaganda pieces which leads me to believe she must have read my letter (below from October 4, 2007). But, as can happen to people who may have a narcissistic personality disorder, they just don't know when to SHUT UP. For, in the book, Kate's explanations further lead me to doubt the McCann's claims of innocence in the disappearance of their daughter. One simple example is the most peculiar speculation of Kate that all her children may have been drugged by Madeleine's 'abductor' both the night she went missing and the previous night. First of all, Kate, this would serve no purpose to the 'abductor' except to waste time and it would be difficult to accomplish. You must know that, so the only rational reason you are claiming the children were drugged would be to explain away the fact that, indeed, they may have been drugged and that, indeed, the only ones likely to do this would be you and Gerry.

    Any good lawyer will tell you to SHUT UP, but, no, you keep talking, Kate, and we thank you for it.


    bron
    Halconmaandag 8 augustus 2011 @ 21:44
    quote:
    2s.gif Op vrijdag 21 januari 2011 18:06 schreef galtfactory het volgende:
    Ik vrees dat dit een zoektocht zonder einde wordt.
    Inderdaad. Af en toe zal er iemand in het nieuws komen die haar ergens meent gezien te hebben of iemand met een krankzinnige tip, maar geloof niet dat ze haar nog ooit gaan vinden. :{
    RonB1985donderdag 11 augustus 2011 @ 09:43
    quote:
    0s.gif Op zondag 22 mei 2011 13:09 schreef Spezza19 het volgende:
    Ik ben nog steeds van mening dat de ouders er achter zitten.....
    Ik heb er niet zo heel veel van meegekregen, alleen in het begin, maar als ik het me goed herinner hadden die mcanns toch ook een auto gehuurd en zou er bloed zijn gevonden op de achterbank? Kan zijn dat ik nu wel erg oude koeien uit de sloot trek, maar als dat verhaal klopt dan denk ik gewoon dat die ouders, al dan niet met opzet, dat kind hebben "vermoord" en het lijk ergens hebben gedumpt ofzo. Dat denk ik trouwens sowieso, of dat verhaal nu klopt of niet. Maar dat kind gaan we nooit meer terugzien in ieder geval, daar kun je donder op zeggen.