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Hoi Voyeur, long time no read! Wel ja, het wordt eigenlijk nu pas interessant, beerput-artikelen te over, uit Amaral's boek en uit het eindrapport. De UK en een aantal inwoners komen er niet best af....to put it mildly. Gaan we weer. Een stukje uit de artikelen die volgen uit het eindrapport op deze site. Niet alles is direct interessant maar wel dit, een foto van Madeleine McCann, gegeven door haar ouders destijds aan de politie ter identificatie, hoe Madeleine er toen uitzag. Nonsens natuurlijk zoals ook deze blogger schrijft:
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"Blogger's note: this seems like an odd photo of Madeleine for the McCanns to give the police on the evening of her disappearance. The child in this photo looks nothing like the one in the, "last photo," which was produced for the police 23 days later, the one of Madeleine with Gerry and Amelie by the swimming pool. I seriously doubt that Madeleine could have been identified from that photo."


Dé laatste foto van Madeleine bij het zwembad, 23 dagen later aan de politie gegeven.


En deze kiek zelf opgezocht, zoals die later massaal werd getoond.
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Kate's strange attitudes Correio da Manhã

Suspected
- PJ admitted that the children had been drugged

19 August 2008 - 00h30 Thanks to 'ines' for translation

A strange attitude by Kate, on the day of Madeleine's disappearance was pointed out by Fiona Payne, one of the members of the British group on holiday in Praia da Luz.

Fiona Payne's witness statement says that Maddie's mother, during the first hours marked by despair and by a feeling close to frustration, several times approached the twins, holding her fingers close to their noses.

Sean and Amélie were asleep at this time, but Kate seemed to want to confirm that that her youngest children were alive, checking if they were breathing.

This behaviour, linked to the fact that Maddie's grandparents confirmed that the children took a sleeping solution to help them go to sleep - a common medication in the UK and often given to children - raised doubts amongst the investigators. But the fact was never taken further, in spite of of one of the theses defended by the first team responsible for the investigation that the disappearance was linked to an accident, which could have been directly linked to the medication given to the children.

Another fact confused the investigators. Kate and Gerry always said that Maddie, Sean and Amélie fell asleep at 19.30/20.00, which was the reason for their being capable of leaving them alone when they went to dine in the restaurant situated 100 metres away, from where they had no view of the apartments.

The version changed later whn Gerry was interrogated, as an arguido.

At that moment, the father told that Maddie had difficulties in falling asleep and that they had instigated a points system in order to tackle this. The girl would be rewarded when she managed to achieve certain targets.

TESTS WERE NOT POSITIVE

Months after Maddie's disappearance and at the time Kate already felt that the investigation was turning against her, she suggested to the PJ that the twins should be subjected to tests, to see whether they had been drugged on the night of the disappearance.

The request was perceived as a strategy to confuse the investigation, given that the couple were both doctors, who would know that, at that moment it was no longer possible to detect any trace of substances that could have been ingested by the children. In the process it was verified that this thesis was never judged to be credible.

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'THE PEOPLE'

The parents of Maddie are "devastated and angry" with the news that a French national wants to sell photos taken at the Ocean Club and which can blame Kate and Gerry in the disappearance of her daughter.

'BELFAST TELEGRAPH'

The newspaper reports that Gerry continues to believe that his daughter will be found alive and asks that anyone who has information about Maddie to contact the private detectives. Gelezen op mccannfiles.com
Ik weet wel dat de McCanns zelf maaaaanden later de kids hebben getest middels een privélab, niets gevonden natuurlijk. Opmerkelijk is ook dat Gerry McCann het altijd belachelijk heeft gevonden dat er werd gesuggereerd dat de kids iets kregen om te slapen. De blogs en fora stonden er vol van nav kranten-artiklelen. Later in augustus vertelde Gerry Mccann in de BBC-docu dat de twins mogelijk iets van sedatie van de ontvoerder moet hebben gekregen omdat de kids overal doorheen sliepen.... En dan schreef Gerry McCann op z'n blog dd 26/05/2007: "Some of you may have noticed that Sean and Amelie did manage to squeeze in a hair cut!" Ja, dat hebben we gezien Gerry, en waarom maak je dat nou wereldkundig...Overigens hebben de McCanns vanaf het begin geweigerd haar van de twins af te staan voor onderzoek en was het inderdaad veel later (en dus te laat) ook niet meer nodig volgens de PJ toen de Mccanns het zelf aanboden.
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En dan nog even over die krabbels van de McCanns op de kaften van die kinderboeken, iets wat ik eerder heb gepost.
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Two contradictory lists and a torn children's book, 18 August 2008

Excerpt from 'The Truth of the Lie' by Gonçalo Amaral (pages 136/137)
18 August 2008 Thanks to 'lisbonirish' for translation

The first investigator who went to the apartment after the alarm was raised was informed of the existence of a plan for checking on the children while the parents dined one hundred metres away. At the time, Russell O'Brien handed over two lists handwritten on the inside cover of a children's book, a sticker activity book for children more than 3 years of age. We believe the book was Madeleine's and we do not understand why they tore off the cover of the child's book. A child had just gone missing and all its belongings should be precious to those who loved her. Was there really no other paper around? Not even a simple napkin? The question hangs in the air and the response is yet another contradiction. The lists contained the possible record of the checks in the apartment." Gelezen op mccannfiles.com
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Nog even over die vermeende foto's (genomen op 3 mei 2007 in de Tapasbar waarop Gerry, Kate en de rest te zien zou zijn) die Duarte Levy in z'n bezit zou hebben en te koop zou hebben aangeboden, volgens het blad The People, niet waar, ligt iets anders, zie eerdere post. Het volgende artikel in 24 Horas, gelezen op websleuths.com:
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What Levy says to 24horas:
- The 24 pics exist
- He has already seen some of them
- The pics were taken by a tourist on vacations with his wife and another couple
- The pics were made between 20h10 and 22h15 at Tapas Bar
- The pics show in the background the MCs and the British friends on vacation with them
- In one of the images would be possible to see that Kate McCann changed clothes during dinner time
(24horas recalls that: the group’s version of events stated that K just left the table around 22h00 when she went to the apt and noticed Maddie’s disappearance; that when G was made arguido he stated not to have taken a camera and not to remember if anyone else did and also that he did not remember what K was wearing that day)
- The owner of the pics would have had already contacts with British newspapers in order to sell the publishing rights. However he puts a condition to it: the pics must be shown to the Portuguese police.
- The tourist has sent the pics to the British centre of protection of children that cooperated with the Portuguese authorities in collecting information on the case
- After the tourist made that contact an important law firm from the UK got in touch with him and offered 600,000euros for all of the pictures - “The lawyers wanted him not to talk about the content of the pics and not to send them to Portugal, for that reason the deal was not done”

(24horas recalls that during the process the investigators insistently tried to find images that portrayed the events of the 3rd of may. They were not successful)

On the small box above the piece can be read: “The British magazine The People has accused Duarte Levy of trying to sell them the pictures taken on the night Maddie disappeared for 50k, around 600,000euros and assuring them he had refused the deal and they warned the couple MC. In a statement to 24horas, Levy denies: “I’m not the owner of the pictures; I only helped several journalists that contacted me in Brussels”. In a statement to the magazine, CM, MC’s spokesperson, claimed that K and G “are angry and upset” and reminded that “they are no longer suspects”. Nevertheless he admits not knowing if K changed her clothes that night. “What if she did?”, asks Mitchell quoted by The People.”
http://www.24horasnewspaper.com/total.php?numero=2922&link=14
Copied from: http://the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=21706&start=705 (vimark)
Interessant, als het klopt allemaal. Waarom zou Kate Mccann tijdens het eten zich moeten verkleden, Gerry kon zich niet kan herinneren wat Kate die avond aan had.

In een commentaar op dit forum schrijft Tony Bennett over dat advocatenkantoor die zo graag die foto's wil hebben/kopen: "If this turns out to be Bates, Wells and Braithwaite, the McCanns' London Solicitors, this would indeed be a bombshell and Bates, Wells and Braithwaite could find themselves disciplined by the Solicitors Regulation Authority and/or the Legal Complaints Service - TB"



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Nog een stukje uit een artikel van 24 Horas, gelezen op websleuths.com:
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"From a reading of legal documents, to which 24Horas has access, it is evident that Jane Tanner was never in the street where she claimed to have seen Maddie’s alleged abductor. Employees of the Tapas Bar stated that she did not leave the restaurant between 19h30 and 22h30--when the disappearance occurred--and Gerry, nor his friend, who were on this same street, remember having seen the Briton [Jane] and much less the abductor. It was some two months after the disappearance when Tanner remembered to tell the authorities what the abductor was wearing and also helped in creating the photo-fit."
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"On the 5th of August, things started to get complicated for the McCanns. In accordance with e notice put out by 24Horas, on the evening of, authorities had begun searching with the British dogs. The investigations began in Murat’s house, at the point, the only arguido. Nothing incriminating was found. But on the 6th of August the floodgates opened. Searches made in the Ocean Club apartment complex rented by the McCanns, the dogs detected cadaver odour and blood smells. Our headline that morning read “British dogs detect death in Maddie’s room.” Later came the detection of blood and cadaver odour in the McCann rental car. Refer to the fact that, according to the British specialists, the dogs can only lead to clues regarding dead human brings. The McCanns opted, at the time, for silence.
Well well, Jane Tanner heeft die avond tussen 19h30 and 22h30 de Tapasbar niet eens verlaten...en dus geen Gerry pratend met Jeremy Wilkens gezien en geen man met kind in z'n armen die ze in eerste instantie als Robert Murat herkende en naderhand Bundleman. The dirt is coming out....

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Nog even over die foto's (zie eerdere post) welke zijn genomen in de Tapasbar op 3 mei 2007 door een Brits toerist en gezien door journo Duarte Levy, gelezen op de site van Joana Morais
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Mysterious photos interest the PJ - 24Horas
Judiciária “attentive” towards new evidence in the Maddie case

Police investigates the possible existence of new photos from the night that Madeleine McCann disappeared

The Judiciária is analyzing the case of the supposed existence of photographs that were taken by a tourist inside the Tapas Bar restaurant on the day that Madeleine disappeared, a source at the PJ stated to 24Horas.

“Despite the archiving of the judicial process, we remain attentive to any fact or any piece of evidence that allows for us to clarify the circumstances under which the child disappeared”, the same source referred. If the facts justify it, the process may even be reopened.

Yesterday, 24Horas published statements from French journalist and blogger Duarte Lévy, in which he says that he saw some of the 24 photos that a tourist says he took inside the Tapas Bar between 8.10 and 10.15 p.m. on the 3rd of May.

At that time, the McCann couple dined with the group of seven British tourists that accompanied them in their Algarvian holidays, until the moment, at around 10 p.m., when Kate got up from the table. She would return shortly afterwards, saying that Maddie had disappeared.

Easily identifiable

According to Duarte Levy, the images “are not coincidental” with the report that was made by the English to the PJ, about what happened that evening. According to the journalist, the photographs were taken by a tourist who was having dinner at the Tapas Bar, in the company of his wife and another couple.

Based on this description, the PJ should not have any difficulties in reaching the owner of the photos, given that at a certain point in the process the reservation list of the restaurant was apprehended.

24Horas has been able to establish that on the 3rd of May, apart from the McCann group – that had booked a table for 8.30 p.m. and where 9 persons were seated – there were only three other tables that were occupied by four persons, identified by their surnames: Edmonds, Buller and Patell. All of them were already inside the Tapas Bar when Kate and Gerry McCann arrived there, only a few minutes after the scheduled hour.source: 24Horas, August 20, 2008 by astro.
Wat Gerry en Kate McCann zelf verklaren in die BBC-docu, transscript: "GERRY: We ate in the open air bit of the tapas and when we went in there was I think one or two other couples. KATE: And then it was just us, you know, and it wasn't late, you know, it was half eight we were there. GERRY: One couple we played tennis with and we chatted to them, and then some of the friends started arriving and they left shortly after that. And I think at that point we might have been the only table."

Yep, er zou een reserveringslijst moet zijn van alle gasten, makkelijk te checken. Als het klopt natuurlijk, waarom zijn die foto's niet in het bezit van de PJ vraag je je dan af, ik heb hier een zeer gereserveerde houding over. Iemand (bron) schrijft verder over het verwisselen van kleren door Kate die avond, wat op die foto's te zien zou moeten ziijn: "Let's ask Clarence where he thinks Kate changed her clothes - in her apartment or in someone else's apartment? That would open up another kettle of fish! Because if her original story is true and she hadn't checked on Madeleine before she discovered her missing, then where did the clothes come from?"

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Er mag gelachen worden...want wat schrijft The Mirror vandaag, wat snippers: "Margaret yesterday told the Mirror she saw the prowler hiding in the dark as she left through the back entrance after baby-sitting at apartment 5A of the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, the year before Maddy was taken from the appartment." Despite telling police, British nanny Margaret Hall was not asked to help with an artist's impression. Now, thanks to the Daily Mirror, a sketch of his face can be seen for the first time."

Krijg nou wat, een jaar geleden??? Toch eens aan wat kennissen vragen of er iemand de laatste jaren in de Algarve een scruffy, long-haired stranger hebben zien rondsluipen.

En verder ook nog: "She was back in the UK when she heard of Maddy's disappearance in May last year - and a chill ran down her spine when she realised the little girl had been taken from the apartment where she had worked. Her mind immediately pictured the scruffy, long-haired stranget. She told police in her home town of Bolton and was interviewed but no photofit was ever issued.

Margaret later saw the sketch of a man carrying a young girl in pyjamas and instinctively she thought to herself: "That's him." It had been made from details given by Jane Tanner, a pal of Gerry and Kate McCann. Margaret added: "My description of the man is very similar to that of Jane Tanner's."

Welke beschrijving van Jane Tanner zou ze nou bedoelen? De nieuwe e-fit maar toegevoegd, nummertje 4 dus, ja sprekend hoor...



And a chill ran down her spine? In Januari zei Cail Cooper ook al zoiets, ""Mrs Cooper, from Newark, Notts, said: "He made my blood run cold." The Mirror

Maar goed, toch wel jammer voor onze Margaret Hall (toch niet deze Leicester copper he!, uit het district waar de McCanns wonen), net nu 24 Horas gisteren meldde dat Jane Tanner die avond de Tabasbar niet heeft verlaten...of werd dit artikel juist daarom geplaatst....

Maar het leukst van al is wel dat dit verhaal al eerder was te lezen in de Daily Mail: Madeleine: Nanny 'caught stranger hiding outside apartment before she disappeared' 30 oktober 2007 U kunt mij thans opvegen....

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Op Websleuths is een hoofdstuk gepost uit het boek (The Truth of The Lie) van Amaral, voormalig leider van het Portugese politieonderzoek:
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Chapter 11 - Analysing a crime scene. Apartment 5A.

- routine meetings between the investigators include the presence and the participation of English colleagues from Leicestershire, as well as José Freitas, a senior official from Scotland Yard, who is a British citizen, a descendant of Portuguese immigrants from Madeira.
- this particular meeting is dedicated to analyse the photographic report that was made inside apartment 5A on the evening of the facts.
- the first thing that jumps out is the ‘tidiness’ of the bedroom where Madeleine and her twin siblings were supposedly asleep. no signs of an abductor in the access to the bedroom window.



- windowsill is 91 cms above the floor, a bed is placed against the wall, with signs of someone who slept in it. a wicker chair stands against the far wall. no markings of shoes on the chair, or on the bed.
- conclusion: the window was not used for anything, or there were 2 abductors, one on the inside and one on the outside.
- bedroom window is protected by a shutter on the outside. on the inside, an opaque curtain that reaches until the top of the windowsill, and two side curtains, that reach until the floor, with embraces. all the curtains are pulled towards the window centre, not covering it entirely.



- the embrace on the right hand side lies on the floor, between the bed’s feet and the wicker chair, which is pushed against the curtain on the right. the embrace on the left side is hanging from the wall bracket, the left curtain is ruffled, making it look like someone pulled it close in a hurry.
- none of the curtain’s embraces is in its normal position, suspended on the wall.



- Kate says that when M was noticed missing, the curtains were completely closed, i.e. they would have been closed by the parents and the eventual abductor would have positioned them in that manner, in order to facilitate his passage through the window.
- the embraces could only have landed in the position in which they were found, when the curtains were pulled shut. other possibility: the curtains were open and were taken out of that position after the disappearance. an abductor would not have wasted time with that; this action is more coincident with an intentional change of a crime scene.
- other indicia pointing towards the change of the crime scene would surface.



- the bed sheets and the position of the soft toy raised suspicions. bed looks like nobody slept there, soft toy is position symmetrically to the pillow, pink blanket is almost folded. father confirmed that the blanket and the soft toy were in that position when he went to check his daughter.
- the two cots stand in the middle of the bedroom, making the movements of an adult rather difficult.



- no bed sheets in the cots, only the mattresses; twins were taken out with sheets and everything, only woke up when they were taken into another apartment.
- analysis of photographs of the living room: the sofa beneath one of the side windows is not in position, and the curtains of the window are pulled shut but rolled up and distorted.



- the father would end up giving an explanation for the sofa’s position. the sofa was normally not pushed against the wall, but he pushed it against the wall because the children used to throw toys into the space behind the sofa while playing.
- sofa may have played crucial role in the accident theory. if sofa was not pushed against the wall, M could have tried to access the window and fell between the sofa and the wall.
- a digital camera is visible on the living room table, the investigators remark that they need the photos from that camera; they want to know what happened during the dinner, who sat where, what was eaten, what was drunk, who was close, what they were wearing, every detail.
- the father dropped to his knees in front of the GNR officers when they arrived, made no sense as he is always under control - possibly to contaminate his trousers?
- in the couple’s bedroom, two beds are pushed together, a wide empty space between them and the wardrobe. one of the beds is made: nobody slept there.



- empty space was apparently for one of the cots.
- possible conclusions: the couple used to sleep in their bedroom with the twins, and M in the other bedroom; the children started sleeping all together in the other bedroom at some point; the spare bed in the children’s bedroom had been slept in; only one person slept in the couple’s bedroom; did the mother stop sleeping with the father and started sleeping with the children?
- not one single medicine was found, only a box of band-aids.
(Thanks to Leo for posting this on Proboards.....The following information is summarized by Summer (no pun intended) from 'The Truth Of The Lie' by Gonçalo Amaral WITH KIND REQUEST TO BUY THE BOOK IF/WHEN IT COMES OUT IN ENGLISH)

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En verder een snipper uit de online krant Portugal Resident
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MADELEINE: Police should search for body said British expert

A SUMMARY by police in February 2008 reveals, for the first time, that there were only two possible causes, in their opinion, that could account for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The report, written on February 5 by investigators, concludes that by analysing the evidence up to that point, police felt that Madeleine was kidnapped or killed, either accidentally or deliberately, and continues to give detailed reasons as to why these conclusions have been drawn.

The possibility of kidnap is taken from evidence including the statement made by Kate describing windows in the apartment being open that were not open earlier.

The testimony by Jane Tanner is also taken into account and her statement describing an individual carrying a child in their arms at 9.15pm adds to this theory. Police files reveal that the alternative explanation for Madeleine’s disappearance is that she died in the apartment and her body was then removed.

The summary states that the specialist British police dog, Eddie, detected the smell of a dead body in the apartment near the window and behind the sofa.

The dog also detected signs of a body in the Renault car hired by the McCanns and in other areas in and around the apartment used by the McCanns. Keela, the dog used to detect the smell of human blood, is reported in the files as finding the smell of blood in the sitting room of the apartment, adding to the suspicions by the police that Madeleine died in the apartment.

At no point in the summary is anyone specifically accused of killing or kidnapping Madeleine.

In July 2007 Mark Harrison MBE of the National Policing Improvement Agency (NPIA) made a report to the Portuguese police stating that in his opinion: “Police have concentrated on finding Madeleine alive, they now need to start to consider other options and the possibility that she has been killed and her body hidden.”

Mark Harrison assessed the Portuguese investigation between May and July and recommended that areas should be searched again but using dogs that detect blood and dead bodies.
Het blijft mij verbazen dat er IMO belangrijke sporen (door honden) opgespoord in augustus door die snuffelhonden Eddie en Keela, zijn gemanipuleerd en naderhand door het wereldberoemde Engelse lab FSS (middels door o.a. Low Copy Number, uitleg) op z'n minst één belangrijk stukje DNA-materiaal is vernietigd tijdens het testen. Amaral, in z'n boek en in interviews, meldt dat dit stukje op verzoek nooit meer terug is gekomen...Iets uitgebreider in een artikel uit een eerdere post, onderaan.

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Uit de files, hier gepubliceerd, die site plaatst het meest interessante uit de 30,000 pages to the case file, of which only 11,000 are open to the press. Ik heb zelf deze snipper uit de verklaring van Gerry (de dag na de vermissing dd 4-5-2207) er uit gepikt:
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"Between April 29th, the day of arrival, and the time when MADELEINE disappeared, the interviewee reports having noticed nothing unusual, except that on the morning of May 3rd, MADELEINE asked her father, GERALD, why he had not come into the room when the twins were crying. The interviewee had heard nothing and had not gone into the room. It was the first time that MADELEINE had made that kind of comment."
Merkwaardig dat in de meeste kranten men het over Madeleine heeft die aan haar moeder Kate (en dus niet aan Gerry zoals hij zelf verklaard) vraagt waarom ze niet kwam kijken toen ze lagen te huilen, en dat laatste klopt ook niet, Madeleine zegt dat de twins lagen te huilen. Het zou best kunnen kloppen dat Madeleine Daddy heeft geroepen want wat verklaarde buurvouw van het naast gelegen apartement: "Widow Mrs Fenn told police that two nights before Madeleine went missing she heard a little girl in the apartment crying for over an hour.She said the toddler, who is believed to have been Madeleine, was crying "Daddy, daddy" constantly between 10.30 and 11.45pm." McCannfiles.com. Madeleine had kennelijk geen band met haar moeder, maar dat is te pijnlijk openbaar te maken, dus wordt Kate expres naar voren geschoven.
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* "Madeleine McCann complained to her mother after she was left crying and alone on the night before she disappeared, leaked police documents have disclosed." The little girl, then aged three, spoke to Kate McCann at breakfast the following morning and said: "Mummy, why didn’t you come when we were crying last night?" telegraph

* “Mummy,” she said, “Why didn’t you come when we were crying last night?” Kate said later: “Gerry and I spoke for a couple of minutes and agreed to keep a closer watch over the children” The Sun

* "Mrs McCann told police: "While we were having breakfast, Madeleine said, 'Mummy, why didn't you come when we were crying last night?' "Gerry and I spoke for a couple of minutes and agreed to keep a closer watch over the children." But, just hours later, the McCanns left the three alone in their unlocked holiday apartment to have dinner with friends. Daily Mail

* The film also captures the couple's disgust as their statements to Portuguese police were leaked on the day they went to Brussels to campaign for a Europeanwide missing child alert system. The leak revealed that on the morning of May 3, the day Madeleine vanished, she asked Kate: "Mummy, why didn't you come when we were crying last night?" The Mirror

* "It was sort of fairly early in the morning, she just very casually really said, 'Where were you last night when me and Sean cried?' and we immediately looked and said, you know, 'When was this Madeleine? Was this when you were going to sleep?' … and she didn't answer and I said, 'When was this Madeleine?' and then she just carried on playing whatever she was doing totally undistressed." ABCnews
En verder nog dit artikel: Clarence Mitchell: how I met Gerry and Kate McCann En op McCannfiles veel support-artikelen, halverwege ongeveer, echt verschrikkelijk....

En een snipper die weergeeft hoe Gerry McCann de vermissing vergeleek, uit een eerdere post: "Gerry: "if all three of the children had been taken it could have been even worse than your worst nightmare and we've got to be strong for them." En hoe het voelde in het begin: "The analogy that I like to use is a bit like when we were students and you'd got to your overdraft limit and you'd gone beyond it and there was just nothing left in the tank." Echt waar, geuit in een interview met Sky News Mei 25, 2007." Dat we dat nog maar weer ff weten...

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OMG, die analogie . En het even met elkaar overleggen of je je kinderen wat beter in de gaten moet houden, wellicht
Het wordt met elke onthulling pijnlijker allemaal. Ik krijg trouwens naar aanleiding van het interview met Amaral ook het idee dat er vanuit Portugal het een en ander in een doofpot is gestopt.
Als je goed om je heen kijkt zie je dat alles gekleurd is.
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Op zaterdag 23 augustus 2008 17:30 schreef livelink het volgende:
OMG, die analogie . En het even met elkaar overleggen of je je kinderen wat beter in de gaten moet houden, wellicht
Het wordt met elke onthulling pijnlijker allemaal. Ik krijg trouwens naar aanleiding van het interview met Amaral ook het idee dat er vanuit Portugal het een en ander in een doofpot is gestopt.
Hoi Livelink , ja erg he, Ik kwam deze quote tegen toen ik wat opzocht, en dan is het weer verpletterend om te lezen hoe Gerry McCann, vlak na de vermssing, dit drama beschrijft/vergelijkt. Wat betreft Amaral. Ik heb nog voor dat interview al eens geschreven dat ik het eigelijk niet begrijp dat Portugal zich zo heeft laten inpakken door de UK. Niets kon, niets van belang werd teruggeven (stukje DNA-materiaal), alleen maar tegenwerking van alle partijen inclusief de Britse overheid, en ongelofelijk smear in de Britse pers < nog steeds. Je zou haast gaan denken dat in de hogere regionen van de Portugese politie chantabele figuren zitten, een ergerlijke gedachte mijnerzijds. Alhoewel de toeristische industrie enorm belangrijk is, met name de Algarve is zeer geliefd bij de Britten, kan dat toch niet dé reden zijn om als marionetten te handelen. Wél was de ondertekening (in december) van het Lissabon Verdrag zeer belangrijk voor Portugal, daarvoor heeft PM Gordon Brown nog met de Portugese PM over de McCanns gesproken. Algemeen wordt aangenomen dat toen de duimschroeven zijn aangedraaid door Brown. Deze laatste heeft het nog gepresteerd 2 uur later te verschijnen en kwam dus te laat voor de fofoshoot met alle PM's, een historisch gebeuren die nu verkloot is door Brown, een vette snub richting Portugal. Iets wat ik eerder heb gepost > in december en later > hier.

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En dan nu de getuigenverklaring van Jane Tanner, gegeven een na dag na de vermissing van Madeleine, dd 4-5-2007. Let wel, dat is dus 'haar' waarheid en opgeschreven middels een vertaler op het politiebureau. Met dank weer aan mccannfiles
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Jane Tanner's interview on 04 May 2007
As with Gerry McCann's interview, a translator was called for. This time, the, "sworn," interpreter was Filipa Maria. It is important to bear in mind that there is a different translator each time. This guarantees objectivity in the translation, the translator not being influenced by the translation of the previous person. The interview begins at 11.30am on May 4th 2007.

I have been in Portugal since last Saturday, April 28th 2007, at the Ocean Club tourist resort, with my partner (Russell O'Brien), my two children and three couples of friends (Gerald McCann, Kate Healy, Matthew Oldfield, Rachael Manpilly, David and Fiona Payne as well as Fiona Payne's mother, Diane Webster). We are with our children, Ella O'Brien, aged 3 years and Evie O'Brien, aged one year.

The other couples have also come with their children, Grace Oldfield, aged one year (daughter of Matthew Oldfield and Rachael Manpilly), Lily Payne, aged two years and Scarlett Payne, aged eleven months (children of David and Fiona Payne). The twins, Sean and Amélie McCann, aged two years and Madeleine Beth McCann who will celebrate her birthday during the holiday week. (Children of Gerald McCann and Kate Healy)


The interviewee and her partner are on holiday with the other couples, having organised the trip from England, where they are friends. They traveled with the, "Mark Warner," agency. All the couples have individual apartments in the same complex, with their respective children.

Since Saturday, the habit has been to get up around 7.30/8am, then to have breakfast in a restaurant near the apartment, called the, "Millenium," (6) towards 9am, to drive the children to the, "Kids Club." (2)(4)(5), according to the ages of the children. Only Gerry and Kate have breakfast in their apartment due to the fact that they have three children and it is complicated walking with the three at the same time. Then, they too drive their children to the, "Kids Club."

The Kid's Club

Ella O'Brien and Madeleine McCann are left in a place at the reception. (4) Responsible for them is an English lady named Cat Baker. Apart from her, there are three or four people to look after the children. (She no longer remembers the names apart from one: Emma Wilding). They do several activities like going to the indoor swimming pool in the complex, going to the tennis court which is outside near the, "Tapas," restaurant (3), going to the beach (outside), painting and going for walks in the complex.

Grace Oldfield, Evie O'Brien, Lily Payne, Amélie and Sean McCann are left at a third place (2) near the, "Tapas," restaurant. The supervisor for Gracie and Evie was an English citizen named Leanne Wagstaff. As for Lily, Amélie and Sean, the supervisor would be, but not certain, Stacey Portz. The activities were identical to the other places, outside and inside the complex.


The following section is a provisional translation, awaiting an improved version:

Around 12.30, they picked their children up from the rooms of the Kid’s Club where they were. The Kid’s Club closed for lunch. Sometimes, they all had lunch together in one of the apartments of the couples.

Around 2.30 PM the rooms of the “Kids Club” opened. Only Madeleine, Amélie, Sean and Ella went back. The other children stayed with their parents. Around 4.45PM, the children came together for tea in a room from the Tapas restaurant. Meanwhile their parents had their own occupations.

03 May 2007

Until then, JT hasn’t noticed anything out of the ordianary concerning the group of friends or the children. She didn’t attend breakfast as she had a tennis lesson scheduled for 9.00. Her partner had breakfast with both their children. Then he went to pick Ella O’Brien, and took them all to the Kid’s Club. Evie was probably unwell, for she did’nt go to the “Kids Club” that day. Kate Healy and Diane Webster arrived and waited for 30 mn, until the tennis lesson was over. Jane Tanner doesn’t know where the McCanns children had breakfast, but they were at the Kid’s Club, and Jane Tanner thinks their father took them there. During the tennis lesson, Kate Healy behaved in her usual manner. After her lesson, Jane Tanner went with her partner, O’Brien, and their daughter Evie, to the beach where they stayed until 12.20. Then they went to the Kid’s club to pick Ella. Jane Tanner doesn’t know what Kate Healy did after the tennis lesson, but around 10.00 she heard that Gerry was having a lesson from 10.10 to 11.10. Jane Tanner did not notice if Madeleine was still in the Kid’s Club when they went to pick Ella. They had lunch in their appartment with their 2 children and Matthew Oldfield, Rachael Manpilly and their daughter Grace until 1.45. At 2.00, Jane Tanner played tennis again, this time with Rachel Manpilly She remembers that while she was playing, she saw Kate Healy and Gerald McCann with their children on the playground by the tennis courts. Kate waved to her. The McCanns stayed there until 2.40 PM, when they took the children to the “Kids Club”.

At 2.45, after she had finished playing tennis, JT went back to her apartment where she stayed with her daughter Evie. Her husband and Matthew Oldfield had gone sailing.

At 3.45, Jane Tanner went to the beach (Praia) with her daughter Evie, Rachael Manpilly, Diane Webster, Fiona Payne, Lily Payne and Scarlett Payne. Her husband Russell O’Brien came back from his sailing trip and went to fetch Ella at the “Kids Club”. They came to join the group at the beach until 6.10/6.15. On their way to the beach earlier, the group saw Gerald McCann and Kate Healy taking a private tennis lesson. Their children weren’t with them. Around 5.15, they saw Kate Healy passing on the beach, jogging.

Russel O’Brien, Matthew Oldfield and David Payne left the beach earlier for the “Men’s tennis night”. On their way back from the beach, the group saw them and Gerry McCann on the courts. They talked with them for about 20 minuts. Gerald McCann’s behaviour was his usual. Jane Tanner surmises Kate was in her apartment, putting the children to bed. Around 7.00 everyone went back to their appartments with their children. Jane Tanner gave a bath to her daughters, and read them a story to make them sleep. As Evie was sick and couldn’t fall asleep, she stayed with her father, who meanwhile, had come back home. Jane Tanner left around 8.30, to go to the Tapas restaurant.

On her arrival some of the grown ups from the group were already there, without any children. These were supposed to sleep. Around 9.00, her husband arrived, having successfully made their daughter sleep. Since David Payne, Fiona Payne and Diane Webster were late, the meal, ordered at 8.30, only started at 9.00, when the Payne family arrived. Normally, one person from each apartment went to the children’s bedrooms to see if everything was OK. Everything went well during the dinner. Everyone was in a good disposition. Jane Tanner remembers that around 9.10, Gerald McCann left the restaurant to go and see his children. Five minutes later, she also left, to check in her own apartment. She saw Gerald McCann talking to a British person named Jez whom he met during the holidays and with whom he played tennis. She passed them, knowing that Gerald McCann had already checked with his children.

Meanwhile, she noticed a man passing, with a child in his arms, walking fast. The child was in pyjamas, without a blanket, which attracted her attention. She only saw him from the side, exactly at the moment she passed Gerald and Jez. That person was coming from the pavement at the end of the apartment block. He quickly passed the crossing. The entrance to the building, where the apartments are, is exactly where she saw him. After checking on her children Jane Tanner went back to the Tapas. On her way back, Gerald McCann was no longer in the street where she had seen him talking. On arriving to the restaurant, she saw him with his wife Kate Healy.

15 to 20 minutes later, Matthew Oldfield and Russell O’Brien went out to see their children.. As their daughter Evie wasn’t well and cried, Russell staid in the bedroom. Matthew checked on the children, Gerald and Kate’s included. According to him, he saw the twins, but wasn’t successful in seeing Madeleine. But as he didn’t hear any noise, he thought everything was fine and went back to the restaurant. Matthew told Jane Tanner that Russell stayed in the bedroom. She quickly ate the main course, and, worried, went into the bedroom so that her husband could eat in turn .

As she was in the bedroom, around 10, she heard Kate Healy and Fiona scream that Madeleine had disappeared. She doesn’t know if it was Kate who found out about the disappearance as she wasn’t in the restaurant then. All their evenings went the same way. It was normal for them to leave the table in turns. Madeleine Beth McCann was a good child, loving, busy, and fun. She loved playing, was intelligent and Jane Tanner doesn’t believe she would let an unknown person get near without screaming…

Description of the man seen by Jane Tanner:

Dark hair, man, between 35 and 40, thin, about 1.70 cms. Hair very dark, thick, not unkempt, but going down to the neck.(Seen from behind). He wore long trousers (like linen) beige colour, and a coat “Duffy” style (but lighter). Shoes black, classical type. Precipitated walk. He was carrying a child reclining on his two arms in front of his chest. He didn’t give her the feeling that he was a tourist.

She only saw the child’s legs. The child looked bigger than a baby, didn’t wear shoes, dressed with cotton pyjamas, of a light colour, maybe pink or white. She isn’t sure, but thinks she saw a pattern on the material, maybe flowers. She isn’t certain.

She claims she doesn’t know what Madeleine was wearing when she disappeared. She didn’t talk about it with anyone. As regards the man, she just said a word about him to Gerald and to the police. She is asked to help for a sketch which comes into the file. Being asked if she could identify the person, she says yes as long as she can see his profile, at the place where she saw him.

After reading the report, she persists, and signs.
In de BBC-docu (transscript) zei Jane Tanner over die pyama van dat kind: "JANE: Only because the pyjamas had a pinky aspect to them so you presume a girl. It was actually quite cold."

The Times: "When she was formally interviewed by police at 3am that night, Tanner realised that the pyjamas on the child she had seen were an exact match with Madeleine’s." Eerder hierboven: "light colour, maybe pink or white. She isn’t sure, but thinks she saw a pattern on the material, maybe flowers. She isn’t certain."

Ook uit de BBC-docu: "JANE: I went out to the front door of our apartment and then I saw Rachael came and said: "Oh Madeleine's gone!" So that was the first that I heard about it." In de bovengenoemde verklaring wordt Rachel niet genoemd die schreeuwde dat Madeleine weg was. Etc etc etc

Ik heb nergens gelezen in deze verklaring dat Jane Tanner daadwerkelijk die dag op 3 mei, Madeleine fysiek heeft waargenomen, dit stukje zegt ook niks: "Jane Tanner doesn’t know where the McCanns children had breakfast, but they were at the Kid’s Club, and Jane Tanner thinks their father took them there. During the tennis lesson, Kate Healy behaved in her usual manner. After her lesson, Jane Tanner went with her partner, O’Brien, and their daughter Evie, to the beach where they stayed until 12.20. Then they went to the Kid’s club to pick Ella. Jane Tanner doesn’t know what Kate Healy did after the tennis lesson, but around 10.00 she heard that Gerry was having a lesson from 10.10 to 11.10. Jane Tanner did not notice if Madeleine was still in the Kid’s Club when they went to pick Ella."

En dan dat zeil-uitje op die dag, kam me dat niet herinneren in eerdere artikelen, maar kan me vergissen: "At 2.45, after she had finished playing tennis, JT went back to her apartment where she stayed with her daughter Evie. Her husband and Matthew Oldfield had gone sailing." Waren om 3.45 terug. Dat duurde ook niet lang dus...

Map of locations at the Ocean Club, referred to in Jane Tanner's statement



1 - Apartments (where all the couples are housed. The block consists of 3 or 4 floors with each floor about 6 apartments for a total of between 20 and 30 apartments)
2 - "Kids Club" room (attended by Grace, Evie, Lily, Amelie and Sean)
3 - "TAPAS" Restaurant
4 - "Kids Club" room (attended by Ella and Madeleine)
5 - "Kids Club" room (attended by Scarlett)
6 - "Millennium" Restaurant
7 - Praia Beach
8 - Tennis Courts

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Op vrijdag 22 augustus 2008 22:37 schreef Suko het volgende:
Madeleine, was crying "Daddy, daddy" constantly between 10.30 and 11.45pm." McCannfiles.com. Madeleine had kennelijk geen band met haar moeder, maar dat is te pijnlijk openbaar te maken, dus wordt Kate expres naar voren geschoven.
Meisjes op die leeftijd adoreren hun vader en negeren toch ook vaak hun moeder ( kijk dus tevens even terug naar mijn eigen peuter/kleuter tijd)
Mijn moeder kon daar erg moeilijk mee omgaan daarom weet ik het zo goed
Kan mij voorstellen dat Kate dat ook niet als plezierig heeft ervaren.
Ik gilde vroeger zelf pappa pappa en als m'n moeder dan kwam dan gilde ik nog harder dat ZIJ weg moest gaan en dat PAPPA Moest komen .
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Meisjes op die leeftijd adoreren hun vader en negeren toch ook vaak hun moeder ( kijk dus tevens even terug naar mijn eigen peuter/kleuter tijd)
Mijn moeder kon daar erg moeilijk mee omgaan daarom weet ik het zo goed
Kan mij voorstellen dat Kate dat ook niet als plezierig heeft ervaren.
Ik gilde vroeger zelf pappa pappa en als m'n moeder dan kwam dan gilde ik nog harder dat ZIJ weg moest gaan en dat PAPPA Moest komen .
Tuurlijk snap ik dat, mij maakte het trouwens geen donder uit, áls er maar iemand kwam, meestal toch moeders... Maar waarom ik het plaatste was vooral het verschil qua Gerry's verklaring, Madeleine vroeg het aan daddy, en wat er uiteindelijk in de pers kwam, Madeleine vroeg het aan Mummy waarom ze niet kwam. Maar eigenlijk ben ik van mening dat Madeleine op 3 mei al niet meer onder ons was, dat hele verhaal is verzonnen (dat M nog leefde die dag) gespind verder door Clarence Mitchell door er Mummy van te maken, dat klinkt wat meer heartbreaking, en de lezer overtuigen dat M nog leefde, maar dat deut er nu ff niet teu....

Ik las net dit nog: Editor's note: the first names of the children of the group of friends are fictitious.

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Tjonge jonge, gaan we nu eens eindelijk iets onderzoeken???? Bijvoorbeeld de Daily Mail, wat betreft het aanstellen van die PI's uit Amerika. Nah, toch maar niet...
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Madeleine fund in chaos as private eyes are axed after draining £500,000 Daily Mail
By DANIEL BOFFEY and MILES GOSLETT Last updated at 10:14 PM on 23rd August 2008
A team of private investigators working behind the scenes to find Madeleine McCann has been axed after being paid £500,000 from publicly donated funds. The Find Madeleine Fund quietly engaged the services of a US-based company which was awarded the lucrative six-month contract earlier this year.

The company, Oakley International, which boasts former British security service and FBI contacts, was hired to monitor the Madeleine Hotline, carry out detective work and review CCTV footage of possible sightings of the missing girl around the world. A source revealed that the company had also spent resources in an attempt to infiltrate a paedophile ring in Belgium.

However, the company's contract will now not be renewed. The Mail on Sunday has learned that double-glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy, who has been underwriting the fund's search for Madeleine, has conducted a review of the agency's work and has become unhappy with the progress it was making.

The deal was abruptly ended following a meeting last week after the fund brought in independent monitors to assess how the money was spent. The cost of employing the agency - run by a Briton, Kevin Halligen - has drained the Madeleine fund and there is now less than £500,000 left.

The development is likely to dismay the thousands who gave to the appeal, and raise questions about how the fund has been administered. Mr Kennedy, who owns Sale Sharks rugby club, was said to be 'angry' because he believed Oakley's bills, estimated to be more than £80,000 a month, were too much for the results they achieved.

A source said: 'There is a sense that they were meaning well but hadn't got as far as they should for the money involved. 'Brian Kennedy thought their work was far too pricey and wanted to know where the money was being spent. He wasn't satisfied with their answers and the contract was not renewed.

'Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate, have been kept informed all along and agree with the decision. A lot of people were asking questions about where the money was being spent.' Oakley International won the contract after an introduction by another company, Red Defence International (RDI), based in Jermyn Street, Central London.

Listed as being involved with both companies was Mr Halligen, 47, a communications expert. He is given as the 'contact name' for Oakley International Group, a company registered in Washington DC as the manufacturer of search and navigation equipment. The company says it has annual sales of £33,000 and only one employee, who appears to be Mr Halligen.

The address given for the company is 2550 M Street NW Washington, which is the downtown office of Patton Boggs, one of the largest and most powerful law companies in America. A source at the law firm said last night that the lawyer who represented Mr Halligen was unavailable for comment.

RDI, formed in 2005, bills itself as 'an experienced provider of crisis prevention, management and expertise'. It claims to have a presence in Washington DC and Virginia and representation in the Middle East, Africa and Central America.

However, its latest set of accounts is two months overdue and it faces being fined by HM Revenue & Customs. Among the main players working on the McCann contract were Mr Halligen and Henri Exton, 57, who headed the Greater Manchester Police undercover unit until 1993. He then worked for the Government before moving into the private sector.

One day after a crisis meeting last week with the Madeleine fund administrators, Mr Halligen resigned as a director of RDI. Mr Exton, of Bury, Lancashire, has the Queen’s Police Medal and an OBE. During the Seventies and Eighties his work included uncovering organised crime rings and recruiting supergrasses.

He also infiltrated football gangs, at one stage becoming a leader of the Young Guvnors, who followed Manchester City, and was forced to take part in organised incidents to preserve his cover. Previously, the McCann fund had employed a Spanish detective agency called Metodo 3. However, the fund lost confidence in them, especially after they announced they would find Madeleine by last Christmas.

She had disappeared from the resort of Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3, 2007, nine days short of her fourth birthday. A spokesman for the McCanns said yesterday: 'Kate and Gerry, the fund and their backers have always sought to employ the very best people and resources in the ongoing search for Madeleine.

'Kate and Gerry, via the fund and the backers, continue to employ many such resources and it is true that Red Defence and Oakley were part of those resources. 'I simply will not comment on any personnel, financial or operational details whatsoever.'

No one could be reached for comment at Oakley International or Red Defence International. Mr Kennedy, estimated to be worth about £250million, became involved after being moved by the plight of the McCanns during the period they were made formal suspects – arguidos – in Madeleine's disappearance. Portuguese prosecutors dropped the couple's arguido status last month.

The 47-year-old made his money in double-glazing and home improvement ventures with companies including Everest windows. His Latium Group business empire has an annual turnover of about £400million.
Well, well...the thruth is coming out. En wederom heeft/geeft het team McCann geen commentaar...



Tijd om een nieuwe campagne te starten? Money makes the world go round, en wie hebben we hier....yes, Angelina Jolie (sad cow IMO), ook goed als een ingang om de US te 'veroveren'....
Jolie's support to Maddie mum Daily Star NEW mum-of-twins Angelina Jolie wants to set up a meeting with the mother of missing Madeleine McCann. The nightmare of Kate and her husband Gerry was brought home to the Hollywood star while shooting her new movie Changeling." Zelf verder lezen....

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Waar zijn die McCanns toch in vredesnaam mee bezig? Dat vraag ik me steeds vaker af. Het lijkt wel alsof ze alleen bezig zijn om hun invloedrijke vrienden maar vooral te laten geloven dat ze onschuldig zijn. Wat zou er in vredesnaam gebeuren als zou blijken dat de McCanns wel degelijk verantwoordelijk zouden zijn voor de dood van Madeleine? Dan zouden een hoop mensen zich enorm belazerd voelen. Zou niemand van al die celebrities, geldschieters, politici en dergelijke zich niet afvragen of de McCanns hun support en geld nou waard zijn? Los of ze direct verantwoordelijk zijn voor de dood van Madeleine, het zijn toch niet echt modelouders gebleken.

Over Oprah Winfrey hoor ik trouwens niks meer. Wellicht toch te bang voor een kritisch interview
Als je goed om je heen kijkt zie je dat alles gekleurd is.
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Goedemorgen Suko

Waar zijn die McCanns toch in vredesnaam mee bezig? Dat vraag ik me steeds vaker af. Het lijkt wel alsof ze alleen bezig zijn om hun invloedrijke vrienden maar vooral te laten geloven dat ze onschuldig zijn. Wat zou er in vredesnaam gebeuren als zou blijken dat de McCanns wel degelijk verantwoordelijk zouden zijn voor de dood van Madeleine? Dan zouden een hoop mensen zich enorm belazerd voelen. Zou niemand van al die celebrities, geldschieters, politici en dergelijke zich niet afvragen of de McCanns hun support en geld nou waard zijn? Los of ze direct verantwoordelijk zijn voor de dood van Madeleine, het zijn toch niet echt modelouders gebleken.

Over Oprah Winfrey hoor ik trouwens niks meer. Wellicht toch te bang voor een kritisch interview
Middag Livelink . Tja, ze zijn zo slim geweest iedereen die iets betekent vanaf het begin er bij te betrekken (daarom denken veel mensen dat dit alles is gepland). wie kunnen er nu nog met goed fatsoen zich terug trekken zou je denken, alhoewel geldschieterd Branson vorig jaar oktober de geldstroom heeft gestopt. Britse politici aan de top hebben mogelijk een andere agenda (something to hide...), zoals Amaral al schreef, het is geen zaak van de politie maar een politieke zaak. Hij wist gewoon teveel en is 2 uur na een telefoontje van PM Fordon Brown ontslagen. Ook het Portugese justitie-apparaat kende tijdens dit onderzoek vele wisselingen....

Of ze nog bij Ophra Winfrey op de bank komen zitten betwijfel ik, mensen uit het nieuws worden niet betaald beweert ze. En mogelijk idd bang voor 'enge' vragen... Maar dan is kwebbeltante Barbara Walters nog een optie.

Wat het bericht betreft uit de Daily Mail over die PI's uit de US en nu ontslagen, toch merkwaardig dat dit £500.000 nu al geeft gekost, "The Find Madeleine Fund quietly engaged the services of a US-based company which was awarded the lucrative six-month contract earlier this year." Dus het bericht uit de telegraph op 13 aug. j.l. klopt niet? "Madeleine McCann's parents have hired a US private investigator firm made up of former CIA and FBI agents and special forces veterans as part of a renewed push to find their missing daughter, it was reported."

Wat een b*ll allemaal, ze waren dus al veel eerder ingehuurd en imo vlak nadat het contract van Metodo 3 afliep in het voorjaar. Hoogst waarschijnlijk was het niet duidelijk wat en waar men moest 'zoeken' aangezien er niks te zoeken valt. De vrijgegeven files met sightings (die allemaal allang zijn nagetrokken) zijn natuurlijk niet echt bedoelt om te zoeken maar om Madeleine levend én in het nieuws te houden, én getuigen opnieuw te bezoeken+stil te houden. Waren deze PI's in conflict met de McCanns? Kregen ze iets door, wilden hun handen niet branden? Tenslotte denkt de PJ in het eindrapport dat Madeleine niet meer leeft en zijn er geen bewijzen van een ontvoering, tja....Merkwaardig ook dat in de Daily Mail de beslissing aan rijke stinkerd Brian Kennedy wordt toegeschreven, hij is toch alleen een board-member van het fonds en staat er garant voor, werkgever van Clarence Mitchell en Metodo 3 < die hebben ook verklaard dat ze niet dienst waren van de McCanns maar bij Brian Kennedy. Wat heeft die man allemaal te vertellen en mogelijk te verbergen en ook wíe betaald wát, dat blijft zeer vaag, wat misschien ook de bedoeling is.

Maar goed, hou in het hoofd dat dit mogelijk onderdeel van spin is, afleiden van aandacht, beetje slecht nieuws waarbij de McCanns mogelijk niet echt de regie hebben, doet ff vergeten wat er nu door de vrijgegeven files naar buiten komt en mogelijk nog meer als met een week de files (althans een groot deel) helemaal openbaar worden. A little scared team McCann????

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Zou het desbetreffende onderzoeksteam wellicht informatie gevonden hebben die niet helemaal gunstig was voor de McCanns? Een goed onderzoeksteam moet toch alle opties onderzoeken, dus ook de mogelijkheid dat de ouders zelf verantwoordelijk zijn voor de dood van hun kind. Dat lijkt me wel een stunt, een bureau dat ingehuurd is en betaald door de McCanns, dat ineens het onomstotelijke bewijs vindt dat de McCanns zelf verantwoordelijk zijn voor de dood van Madeleine
Als je goed om je heen kijkt zie je dat alles gekleurd is.
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Zou het desbetreffende onderzoeksteam wellicht informatie gevonden hebben die niet helemaal gunstig was voor de McCanns? Een goed onderzoeksteam moet toch alle opties onderzoeken, dus ook de mogelijkheid dat de ouders zelf verantwoordelijk zijn voor de dood van hun kind. Dat lijkt me wel een stunt, een bureau dat ingehuurd is en betaald door de McCanns, dat ineens het onomstotelijke bewijs vindt dat de McCanns zelf verantwoordelijk zijn voor de dood van Madeleine
En daar zou je wel eens helemaal gelijk in kunnen hebben, iets wat ik al in die richting opperde. Willen mogelijk geen handen branden, worden niet echt ingezet om te zoeken etc etc. Zouden ze echt wat ontdekt hebben?! En wat die gelden in het fonds betreft, niemand weet exact hoeveel er inzit, wat en waaraan iets is besteed, af en toe laat Mitchell wat los, maar die wordt door niemand meer serieus genomen. Zou zomaar kunnen dat die genoemde bedragen aan die PI's niet kloppen, tenslotte kreeg Metodo 3 ook minder als eerst was bericht, mogelijk krijgen de McCanns daar een deel van...dat is voorlopig niet te checken, de stouterds!....
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In een google-vertaling schrijft sosmaddie/be dat de Belgische politie van niets weet dat één van die ingehuurde detectives zou zijn ge-infiltreerd in een pedo-netwerk...maar ja, dat wisten we eigenlijk al wel...Wat de Daily Mail eerder schreef: "A source revealed that the company had also spent resources in an attempt to infiltrate a paedophile ring in Belgium."
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Detective McCann infiltrates network of pedophile 24.08.2008

"There are not 36 ways to infiltrate a network pedophile…There are only two: either you are a victim or you're executioner," said a spokesman for the Belgian Federal Police last night confronted with the advanced information by the British media of a detectives engaged in the service of Kate and Gerry McCann have infiltrated a network of paedophilia in Belgium.

According to British media, citing a source close to the McCann family, one of the detectives agency Oakley International allegedly used some of the 600,000 euros paid by the Find Madeleine Fund in its efforts to infiltrate a network of paedophilia in Belgium.

"We are not aware of the existence of a pedophile network, especially with the characteristics that the British media have alleged. In Belgium, unfortunately, we paedophiles, the same way they exist in the United Kingdom where, I think, their number and importance is far greater than ours, "said the same officer, stressing that" Belgium is known for the case of Dutroux, but we must not forget that the English had Ian Huntley.”In this case, if the detectives of McCann supposed to have infiltrated a network or approached by paedophiles in Belgium, why have not t'ils informed the competent authorities? "

According to the latest information, Oakley International, a supposed detective agency, is no longer serving McCann, after six months of a relationship that has produced any results, but would couté 600,000 euros responsible design by Kate and Gerry McCann after the disappearance of Madeleine.

After the Spaniards of Metodo 3, Oakley International, allegedly composed of former officers of British and American intelligence, was supposed to maintain a hotline for McCann, investigating several leads and analyze images of any new evidence about Madeleine.
to follow ...Duarte Levy et Paulo Reis Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis
Ian Huntley, bekend van die moord op 2 meisjes, Soham murders (2002) Pikant detail, vandaag een rel in de UK, Moira (Myra) Hindley's afbeelding was (portret gemaakt van uitgeprinte kinderhandjes) te zien in een Londen-promo-filmpje in Peking: "Samen met haar vriend, Ian Brady, maakte zij zich schuldig aan het kidnappen, seksueel misbruiken, martelen en vermoorden van een aantal kinderen." Bron Die promo werd al langer vertoond, niemand zei er eerder wat van, opmerkelijk.

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En dan nu de verklaring van vriend en Tapas-genoot, Mike Oldfield, dd 4-5-2007. Ik heb op deze site de opmerkingen overgenomen (Tony Bennett) die er vetgedrukt tussen staan, de tekst zelf is van mccannfiles.com waar alle verklaringen zijn te lezen en nog worden geplaatst:
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Matthew Oldfield's interview on 04 May 2007 The interview begins at 11h30 on 04/05/08. It is made in the presence of inspector Patricia D.

As with previous statements, the interviewee having no command of the Portuguese language, an interpreter was requested.

It is Angela F.M. and as with all previous statements, the interview was read over and its contents explained. After having shown his agreement with his statements, the interviewee confirmed and signed as accurate, the deed that followed, conjointly with the, "sworn," interpreter. This was normal procedure since the start of the interviews.

In signing, the interpreter commits herself legally concerning the accuracy of her translation.

On the subject, the interviewee says:

It is of his own free will and of his own accord that he adds his statements in the context of the present proceedings. That he has been on holiday in Portugal since April 28th 2007 and that he is staying at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz. That he expects to return to England on Saturday May 5th 2007. That he has known Madeleine's parents for around five years. That the little girl will be 4 years old next Saturday. That he was spending his holiday with Madeleine and her parents. That they had come as a group and that this group is composed of 9 adults and eight children. The adults are Diane, David and Fiona (children: Scarlett and Lily) Russell and Jane (children Evie and Ella) Rachael (daughter Grace) respectively the wife and the daughter of the interviewee, Gerry and Kate (children: Amelie, Sean - twins aged two - and Madeleine)

That the idea of spending the holiday in Portugal came from the couple David and Fiona and that it is they who reserved the accommodation. That this reservation was made 4 or 5 months ago. That since they arrived in Portugal, until last night, the days were all the same. In the morning, the group woke between 06h30 and 08h00 and that they all went on foot to the, "Millennium," around 10 minutes from the complex. That only Madeleine's parents, Madeleine and the twins had breakfast in their apartment due to the fact that they have three very small children.

That after breakfast, the children were left at the "Kids Club" of the complex. Madeleine and Ella go to the mini-club for their age and the other children go to another club for younger children. At lunchtime, the habit was to meet up in one of the apartments occupied by the group to have lunch there with the children. In the afternoon, the children have a sleep in their respective apartments under the supervision of an adult. The other adults do sporting activities within the complex. After their afternoon sleep, the children return to the "Kids Club."

REPLY: Hmmm. So, 12.30pm, back for some lunch in one of their apartments, then they all leave to play sport, leaving one adult in charge of 8 children. He doesn't say if they all the adults come back just beofre 2.30pm to take the children back to the mini-club/Kid's Club for the afternoon session. Also, Gerry McCann's 'last photo' of Madeleine and Sean with Gerry by the pool is not conisistent with what Matthew Oldfield says here. According to him, the children would all be having a nap before 2.30pm and then their parents (presumably) would take them all down to the kids' clubs.

That around 16h45, the children eat at the "Tapas," restaurant inside the tourist complex.

REPLY: I assume the Paraiso is 'The Tapas restaurant'? So, dinner at the Tapas say 5pm to 6pm/6.30pm, then playing in the playground for another hour or so. Again, only one adult in charge of all 8 children?

After eating, the children went to play in a playground in the complex, supervised by adults. At around 8pm, the children went to sleep and at around 20h30, the adults went to dinner at the "Tapas" restaurant. While they were eating, the children were sleeping in their respective apartments without the constant supervision of an adult. The interviewee adds that, as the restaurant is around 1 minute from the apartments, randomly, an adult would be going frequently to check on the children in the apartments.

How the evening progressed

The interviewee says that the day yesterday was identical to the previous ones and that, as on all other nights, at around 8.45pm, he and his wife left their daughter asleep in the apartment and went to the "Tapas" restaurant.

That the couple Kate and Gerry, Madeleine's parents were already at the restaurant. That they had arrived at the restaurant five minutes before them.

REPLY: Hmmm. He does not mention the fact that neither the McCanns nor their three children were in the 'Tapas restaurant' that evening, as the photos revealed in the News of the World made clear. The McCanns' cover stories for what they were doing at this time appear to be (1) we were all having 'high tea' with the nanny Charlotte Pennington 'somewhere near the Tapas bar' [actual place not stated] at around 5pm to 6pm or (2) in Gerry McCann's case: 'I was playing tennis...or rather I was 'hanging around the tennis courts as I could not play any longer because of my Achilles tendon'.

The rest of the adults arrived at the restaurant around five minutes after the interviewee and his wife. That the last to arrive at the restaurant was the couple David and Fiona. That the latter arrived at the restaurant at around 21h00.

That around 21h05, the interviewee went to the area of the apartments. Notably to the area near the windows of all the children's bedrooms. That he did not hear any noise. That he considered that all the children were sleeping. That all the children's bedroom windows were closed, notably the windows that gave access to the fourth apartment, that occupied by Madeleine.

REPLY: Matthew Oldfield repeats the time line that Russell O'Brien was busily writing down on a scrap of paper [or, as we read elsewhere, on the torn-off cover from one of Madeleine's books]. Russell O'Brien has committed himself to a 'check' at around 9.00pm. He doesn't go into the apartment, and says the shutters are shut.

That after this check, he returned to the restaurant, saying that all the children were asleep. However, Gerry, Madeleine's father, went to the area of the apartments to check for himself if the children were asleep. That Gerry allegedly went into his apartment and that he checked to make sure that Madeleine and the twins were sleeping in their bedroom, where it was quite dark. The bedroom door was half-open. That five minutes later, Gerry came back to the group in the restaurant.

REPLY: How does Matthew Oldfield know 'the apartment was rather dark'? At some stage, Gerry McCann must have told him. He would hardly have passed this remark on the night on returning to the Tapas bar. He wouldn't have said: "Guess what, Matt, the apartment was rather dark when I checked". No, Matthew Oldfield has been told this by Gerry McCann later - as they are comparing notes and working out what to tell the police. The same goes for the statement that the bedroom door was ajar - again, not something he would casually mention to Oldfield on returning to the Tapas bar. Of course, Gerry was not back at the Tapas bar 'after 5 minutes'. According to Gerry McCann's own testimony, it was '15-20 minutes'. In addition, no explanation whatsoever is offered as to what Matthew Oldfield was doing checking the apartment at 9.05pm when Gerry McCann says this is the precise time he set off to do his check.

In answer to a question from the inspector, the interviewee does not know if Gerry met anyone while he was checking the children. He did not mention it.

That during the meal, it was usual that every 15 minutes (as on all nights) one of the adults went to the apartments to check if the children were sleeping. That normally this checking was done inside the apartments (Visual checking), but that, to be honest, sometimes this checking was only done from the outside, near the bedroom windows (Auditory checking).

REPLY: The '15 minutes' was no doubt said by Oldfield before the 'Tapas 9' all agreed to say that the checking was 'every half hour'. Also, he is quoted as saying: "One of the grown ups went to the bedrooms to see if the children were asleep". This is quite clear. One grown up went (singular), to check on the bedrooms (plural) to see if the children (plural) were asleep. It seems as though he is giving the clear impression here that one of the group went to check on all apartments. Yet Dianne Webster has been repeatedly quoted as saying that 'each couple was responsible for their own checking'.

As normal, dinner began at 21h30.

At around 21h25, the interviewee went into his apartment and Madeleine's apartment to check on the children. He states that the door of the bedroom quarters, that was occupied by Madeleine and the twins, was half-open and that there was enough light in the bedroom for him to see the twins in their cots. That he couldn't see the bed occupied by Madeleine, but as it was all quiet, he deduced that she was sleeping. That the light in question was from an artificial source but not inside the bedroom, rather from outside through the bedroom window. That it seemed to him that the shutters of the bedroom window were open without knowing if the window was also open.

REPLY: So many questions about this. So he entered the flat? Well, why didn't he at 9.05pm? Did Gerry McCann give him a key? - presumably not, as Oldfield tells us later that he ewalked in through an unlocked door. Through which door did he enter? Did he make sure the doors were locked when he left? How come Matthew Oldfield suddenly started checking on more than one apartment? Why did he check when Gerry had presumably reported back at 9.25pm that the kids were O.K.? And why does he suddenly remember making a check at 9.30pm when Russell O'Brien's carefully-written timeline, handed to police earlier, makes no mention whatsoever of a 9.30pm check by him?

Then we have what seems IMO to be a blatant and not-too-subtle attempt to create the scenario of the abductor having stolen Madeleine before his check at 9.30pm. For this to work, Matthew Oldfield asks us and the police to accept that:
1. He did 2 checks in the space of 25 minutes when Russell O'Brien's note says he did only one
2. He did not enter the apartment on the first of his two visits but apparently did on the second visit
3. He checked moreorless the same time as Gerry McCann did at around 9.05pm
4. He checked again at 9.30pm just 5 minutes after Gerry McCann returned from talking to Jeremy Wilkins
5. He entered the children's room and remembers seeing the twins asleep but not Madeleine
6. He 'thinks' the apartment was 'somewhat lighter' from artificial light outside
7. He 'thinks' the shutters were open but is not sure.
He is asking us to believe rather a lot.


The apartment has two bedrooms, a lounge, a small kitchen and a bathroom. The couple's bedroom has a window which is visible from the restaurant. The children's bedroom windows look out on the road outside the tourist complex. Then the interviewee went back to the restaurant.
He states that the bedroom has two windows. The twins occupy two cots placed in the middle of the room and Madeleine occupies a bed pushed against the wall, facing the wall which has the two windows that look out onto the outside of the complex. That the door through which he entered the apartment was closed but not locked. That he doesn't know if it is usual for Madeleine's parents to leave the door closed but not locked in so far as that door is visible from the restaurant.

REPLY: Destroying the McCanns' initial claim that their doors were locked.

At around 10pm, Kate, Madeleine's mother, went to her apartment to check on her children. She came back totally shocked, shouting, saying that Madeleine was no longer in her bedroom. At that time all the adults were in the restaurant. Then, the whole group went to Madeleine's bedroom and checked that the twins were sleeping OK.

REPLY: All went in? All 9 adults? His account differs in one important respect from that of Charlotte Pennington, who is certain the twins were not in their cots - and she also says she was the 'first to arrive' there - ahead of the 'Tapas 9'. In her statement, she says that she assumed that friends of the McCanns had moved the twins to the apartment of one of their friends.

That there was no signs of a burglary in the apartment. Only, one window in the children's bedroom was open. The window and the shutters were open.

That during the holiday, and notably during the day yesterday and during dinner, nothing appeared unusual to the interviewee. That there wasn't the slightest change in the behaviour of any of the group, notably in that of Kate or Gerry and their respective children.

Question: And outside the group?

No, there was nothing unusual and he knows of nothing special happening. That the tourist complex was quiet and that nothing unusual happened there. That during the day the children were under the supervision of the Kids Club's staff. That he doesn't know if Madeleine was suffering from any illness or if she was taking medication. That Madeleine is very lively, obedient, communicative and extrovert. Madeleine's parents are both very friendly, communicative, happy and sensible. That the couple have an excellent relationship with their children, not making any difference in the treatment of each. That the three children were very much wanted by the couple, all three being the result of, "In Vitro," fertilisation.

The interviewee thinks that it is a kidnapping with the intention to demand a ransom from the parents, because these are people who are very comfortable financially.

REPLY: IMO this is a totally fabricated statement, with many contradictions between his account and those of others, and many unexplained answers and important details left out. Oldfield invented much of this statement in order to enhance the probability of the abduction theory taking hold. IMO he knows fine well what has become of Madeleine
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Ja ja, The Times bericht over een vermoord meisje in Israel, Rose, een meisje van 4 jr: "Rose, the little girl with haunted blue eyes and ashy blonde hair has been called the Israeli Madeleine McCann. Her photographs have filled local newspapers while the details of her family's past have scandalised the Israeli public." Maybe The Times should look into the backgrounds of the McCanns and Madeleine, or did you already know (for a long time) and keep it under wraps????? Or is this article a hidden message...

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Ach, wie en wat hebben we daar...Kate McCann, de 'moeder' van Madeleine. Wat heeft zij verklaard op 4 mei 2007, de dag na de 'vermissing.'
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Kate McCann's interview on 04 May 2007 Gelezen op mccannfiles.com

Kate's interview took place on the day after Madeleine's disappearance, 04/05/07 at 14h20.

On the subject of the proceedings:

The interviewee was heard as a victim, being the mother of the minor. Of British nationality, she has no command of the Portuguese language, spoken or written. Thus, the interview was done in the presence of an interpreter: Natalia C.F. de A. The interviewee says she has been married to Gerald since December 1998. She has never been to Portugal before. The trip came at the suggestion of friends, who convinced them, at the end of last year, to spend their holiday in Portugal. The trip was organised by David Payne, who made the Praia da Luz Ocean Club reservation on the Internet for the interviewee and her husband, as well as for the rest of the group, a total of 9 adults and eight children, including her daughter Madeleine. She has known some members of the group since the year 2000 and others for a year. She was a colleague of David's wife.

They travelled in two separate groups. One of the groups was composed of the interviewee, her husband Gerald, their three children, David and his wife, the mother-in-law and their two children. One of the groups left from Leicestershire and the other from London.

The meeting point was the Ocean Club where the interviewee's group arrived on Saturday April 28th at around 15h00 from Faro airport in an airport mini bus. The other group arrived on the same day, late morning.

After checking in, the interviewee and her family were placed in apartment G5A. The nuclear family comprises the interviewee, her husband, her daughter Madeleine and twins, Sean and Amelie, aged 2 years.

The apartment has two beds in one bedroom, and two in another where there are also two cots on loan from the Ocean Club.

The interviewee and her husband sleep in one bedroom and the three children in the other. The twins sleep in cots, Madeleine in a normal bed, the other bed staying empty.

Between the day of the arrival, April 28th, and the time that Madeleine's disappearance was discovered, the interviewee says that she noticed nothing unusual. She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. The interviewee states that she had heard nothing and had therefore not gone into the bedroom. She ignored her daughter's words because it was the first time she had talked about it.

The routines

The day after their arrival, they went for breakfast at around 07h30/08h30 at the Ocean Club, in a bar situated some distance from the apartment. On the following days, because the bar was quite far away, they started buying supplies from the "BAPTISTE" supermarket, located on the same road as the apartment and they had their first meal of the day in the apartment.

After breakfast, at around 09h00/09h30, the children went to the club called the "KIDS CLUB" where they did various activities such as painting, collage etc. They stayed there until around 12h30, constantly supervised by several Ocean Club employees in a ratio of three children to one employee. Within the "Kids Club" because of the difference in ages, the twins were in one group and Madeleine in another, with separate activities.

At 12h30, they (Kate and Gerry McCann) collect their children and have lunch in their apartment since they have provisions. After lunch, at around 13h30, the children spend time close to the club's swimming pool, supervised by the parents, for about 45 minutes, where they play and have sun cream applied. After this time, they take the children to the "Kids Club" until around 17h00/17h30, the time when the children eat in a bar under the watchful gaze of the parents. After the 17h00 dinner, they give the children a bath, prepare them for the night and let them play for a while in a playground next to the tennis courts, still and always under parental supervision. At around 20h00, the children are put to bed until the following morning when the described routines start all over again. While the children are at the "Kids Club," the interviewee played tennis with her husband, went for walks, read or went "Jogging."

Thursday May 3rd 2007

Yesterday, after the daily routine, Madeleine and the twins went to bed at around 19h30. They were in their respective beds. The interviewee and her husband stayed in their apartment to relax until 20h30. She took a bath, did her make-up and drank a glass of New Zealand wine with her husband. Just after 20h30, the interviewee and her husband, after checking on their children, joined the other adults of the group at the "TAPAS" restaurant, about 50 metres away, where they had dinner. As usual, every half hour, and given that the building is very close, the interviewee and her husband went to make sure the children were OK. Thus, at around 21h00, her husband went to the apartment to make sure the twins, as well as Madeleine, were OK, then he went back to the restaurant. Her husband said that the children were doing well and that he had bumped into the person with whom he had played tennis, a person who has two children. At the same time, one of the group of friends, Russell, went to see his children, without checking on the interviewee's children.

Around 21h30 was the time the interviewee should have gone to see her children, but her friend Matt (a member of the group) had just done a check in his apartment then gone to the interviewee's. He had gone into the apartment through a glass door at the side and once inside had not gone into the children's bedroom. He only looked through the door, and did not hear any noise. He went back to the restaurant and said that everything was fine.

(Wat Gerry over de eerste check van Mike (Matt) meldt in zijn verklaring (mccannfiles) "He went into the room. He saw the twins and he checked if Madeleine was OK. Everything was normal, the shutters closed and the bedroom door half-open as usual.Then MATT went back to the restaurant.) Lijkt me nogal een verschil, of iemand de kamer is ingegaan en de kids heeft gezien of alleen heeft staan luisteren aan de deur...wie liegt hier, Gerry of Kate...want Mike zelf meldt: "That around 21h05, the interviewee went to the area of the apartments. Notably to the area near the windows of all the children's bedrooms. That he did not hear any noise.That he considered that all the children were sleeping. That all the children's bedroom windows were closed, notably the windows that gave access to the fourth apartment, that occupied by Madeleine.)

At around 22h00, the interviewee went to check on the children. She went into the apartment by the side door, which was closed. She noticed that the door to her children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the shutters raised and the curtains open, while she was certain of having closed them all as she always did.

Faced with this situation, she verified that the twins were indeed in their respective beds, unlike Madeleine, who had disappeared. The cover was pulled back and the toys were on the pillow as usual. After searching the whole apartment thoroughly, the interviewee went back, scared and shocked, to the restaurant, to alert her husband to the disappearance. The whole group then set about searching for Madeleine throughout the complex, looked in all the buildings, swimming pool, tennis courts etc....as well as in the apartment with the help of employees, who, at the same time, contacted the authorities.

Later, a member of the group, Russell's partner Jane, said she saw, when she went to her apartment at around 21h15, about 50 metres away, on the perimeter road of the club, a long-haired person with a child in his arms, walking very quickly. But she is better able to tell you about that herself.

Concerning Madeleine, she is Caucasian, white, aged four years (12/05/2003) about 90cm tall. Very slim, dark blond hair; shoulder-length. Left eye blue-green same as the right, which has a brown spot. She has a small brown spot on the skin of her left leg as well as sunburn on her right forearm. She has no scars. At the time of her disappearance, she was wearing pyjamas with white bottoms with a floral pattern. The short-sleeved top, mainly pink with a blue-grey pattern bearing the inscription, "EEYORE," an inscription which is also on one of the trouser legs. The pyjamas are "Marks and Spencer" brand.

Concerning the child's personality, she is extrovert, very active, talkative, smart and relates to other children with great ease. But she would never go with a stranger. She has no suspicions to talk about, finds no reason for this act, neither she nor her husband has enemies. She states that her daughter has no illnesses and is not on any medication.

Following a request from the inspector, she authorises a reading of the calls on her mobile phone. Apart from the Kids Club and the apartment, they only went once to the beach with Madeleine and the other children and only for a very short period of time, since the weather was changeable. They could only go to the beach between 13h30 and 15h00, the time when they went back to the club. At the beach, they only ate an ice cream then they went back to the apartment. Apart from that Madeleine went to the beach with the Kids Cub for an hour. The supervision and planning were the responsibility of the club. The interviewee and her husband were not present. She never noticed any strange behaviour during these recent days which could explain the disappearance. After having been shown the list of the Ocean Club's guests, she says she only knows the names of those of the group. Other than the child, nothing else has disappeared, neither clothes nor the child's jewellery. The interviewee did not have an intercom, unlike David and Fiona Payne who were able to hear crying or any kind of noise. She has nothing else to add. After having read the deed, she confirms it, ratifies it and signs it with the interpreter.
Deze site voegt het volgende toe: "Comment: First thing I notice here is that Kate's statement is at a different time to the previous ones detailed by Enfants Kidnappés. Both Jane Tanner's and Matthew Oldfield's took place at the same time in the morning of May 4th 2007, but Kate's was in the afternoon, giving ample time to confer with those who had already been interviewed?"

Zou inderdaad zomaar kunnen dat Kate tijd heeft gehad om te overleggen met Gerry, Jane Tanner en Mike Oldfield die allebei 's morgens zijn gehoord en Kate 's middags 14h20. Tenslotte werd ze gehoord als slachtoffer en niet als mogelijke dader of wat dan ook, iedereen was nog vrijj om te gaan en te praten (overleggen?) met wie dan ook. Gerry gehoord om 11h15, Jane Tanner en Mike Oldfield om 11h30. Verder valt op dat Kate veel hetzelfde meldt als Gerry, wat doet vermoeden dat er wel degelijk overleg is geweest. Bekend is dat ze 's nachts op de kaften van de kinderboeken hebben zitten schrijven. Uit een eerdere post. De PJ meent: "The importance of the book covers was related to the fact that the PJ considers that there was a manipulation of the testimonies – the depositions between the elements of the group were combined in a detailed manner."

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Nog even terugkomend op Kate's statement en ook Gerry verklaarde dat eerder: "The whole group then set about searching for Madeleine throughout the complex, looked in all the buildings, swimming pool, tennis courts etc....as well as in the apartment with the help of employees, who, at the same time, contacted the authorities."

Met andere woorden, wel degelijk hebben velen het apartement betreden en alles doorzocht, daarmee zijn belangrijke bewijzen/sporen verloren/besmet geraakt, als dokters hadden ze dat moeten weten en hoogst waarschijnlijk is dat dan ook doelbewust gedaan. Maar wat zei Gerry in de BBC-docu in aug 2007: "There had been quite a few people in the apartment but not into the bedroom, that was limited to myself, Kate, I think two of our friends, the two GNR officers and I think a translator. I was certainly saying to people: "Stay out of the room." There was no sealing off of the room and should we?" Bollocks! De hele zooi was ook verschoven zoals Amaral in zijn boek beschrijft.

Ik weet 't, niet alles is even interessant wat ik aan verklaringen heb gepost en zal voortzetten indien nodig, maar ik doe het mede omdat de Britse pers verdomd ook maar iets uit deze voor de pers vrijgegeven files te publiceren. Zo komen ook deze verklaringen naar boven als iemand zoekt via Google of zo. Spread the truth because the British press won't/don't...

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Gelezen op mccannfiles.com:
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Press Release from FindMadeleine website, 26 August 2008

Date Released: 26/08/2008

In the light of articles in some UK Sunday newspapers this weekend, we feel it is appropriate to comment briefly on our relationship with the investigation company Oakley International.

We appointed them several months ago to investigate the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. We continue to work with them to this end. The working relationship is managed by Brian Kennedy, who also confirms the relationship with Oakley International continues to be good and that it remains entirely focused on the search for Madeleine."
Die kat van de McCanns naar deze kranten lijkt me pijnlijk, want die publiceerden toch alles wat Mitchell meende te moeten afscheiden. Die several months ago was dus in mei, vlak nadat werd gevierd dat Madeleine een jaar wordt vermist. Het contract is voor 6 maanden zoals verschillende kranten hebben gemeld. Een woordvoerder schrijft in de telegraph 24/8: "Their contract is continuing for the immediate future and will be reviewed when it ends, as you would expect. We will not be comment on the detail of any personnel, financial or operational arrangements."

En de Daily Mail 23/8: "A source said: 'There is a sense that they were meaning well but hadn't got as far as they should for the money involved. 'Brian Kennedy thought their work was far too pricey and wanted to know where the money was being spent. He wasn't satisfied with their answers and the contract was not renewed."

Dat nieuws op de site van McCanns doet de wenkbrouwen fronsen. Doen die PI's nu opeens hun werk wel goed? Of dreigt Oakley International uit de school te klappen en was de slechte publiciteit met deze mededeling op de McCann-site een goedmakertje?

Het merkwaardigst vind ik dat die berichtgeving dit weekend over Oakley International niet van Clarence Mitcell kwam, men had het in de kranten over een woordvoerder van de McCanns en dat de McCanns zelf een en ander verklaren op site. Is Mitchell van het voetlicht verdwenen???? Tenslotte is het volgende maand ook alweer een jaar geleden dat hij door Brian Kennedy werd ingehuurd. Of is hij naar de US om Angelina Joli op te vrijen, zij doet iets met vermiste kids in een film of zoiets en was getroffen door de situatie van de McCanns, zie de Daily Star Of toch de zak gekregen?

En verder denk ik dat er wat lucratieve dealtjes qua interviews met de McCanns op stapel staan, het fonds mot ook weer gevuld worden....Maar het zou ook zomaar lunnen dat men toch wat nerveus is, de vrijgegeven files voor de pers zijn nou niet bepaald McCann-vriendelijk te noemen. En volgende week openbaar voor het publiek. We zullen zien....

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  woensdag 27 augustus 2008 @ 12:04:06 #200
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Hey hoi hallo, , hoe is het hier? Ik heb een beetje bijlezen te doen geloof ik......
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