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  donderdag 24 juli 2008 @ 12:03:07 #51
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Hmm, dit ga ik nog eens rustig doorlezen, er staan dingen in die ik niet helemaal meteen kan plaatsen, b.v. wanneer is Maddy WOC gemaakt en waarom? Door wie?
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Madeleine McCann: Will the High Court investigate allegations relating to a Ward of Court?
The Portuguese publication Correio da Manhã, (the publication the British media and Team McCann are happy to quote when they publish "McCann-Friendly" articles but quick to deride when they don't) recently published certain allegations relating to David Payne and Gerry McCann. The same allegations are reportedly contained in the book “The truth of the lie” written by former police chief Goncalo Amaral.

Last month it was revealed that last summer, Madeleine was made a ward of court at the request of the McCanns, to empower judges to act in her best interests in any legal dispute.

In light of allegations involving Maddie's father as well as David Payne, will the High Court be acting in Madeleine's best interests to ensure these allegations are properly investigated by the relevant authorities and/or agencies?

According to Tiscali.reference, when a minor is made a ward of court, no important step in the child's life can then be taken without the court's leave.

As the allegations relate to Madeleine, I would have thought the High Court would have not only the desire but also the authority, to find out if there is any substance to the allegations. After all, it would be in Madeleine's best interests.

Or was the order only designed to be enforced in the case of legal disputes - such as court cases involving libel that in reality would only be in the best interests of the McCann's - the parents who made their daughter a ward of court and who are leaving no stone unturned in their quest to find people to sue.
http://ionglobaltrends.bl(...)will-high-court.html
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  donderdag 24 juli 2008 @ 12:54:38 #52
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'Ouders begroeven Maddie'
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De voormalig leider van het onderzoek naar het sinds mei 2007 vermiste meisje Madeleine McCain, Goncalo Amaral, stelt dat de peuter door haar ouders begraven is in Portugal. Volgens hem zou Maddie zijn gestorven in een slaapkamer van het vakantieappartement in de Algarve waar de familie McCain verbleef.

Het boek waarin Amaral de beweringen doet is door hemzelf geschreven en komt donderdag uit. Opmerkelijk detail is dat Amaral tijdens het onderzoek werd vervangen omdat hij zijn Britse collega's beschuldigde van fraude. Zij zouden bewijsmateriaal achter hebben gehouden.

Het onderzoek naar de verdwijning van Madeleine werd maandag afgesloten door de Portugese politie, waardoor de ouders geen verdachten meer zijn. Zij onderzoeken of ze stappen kunnen ondernemen tegen Amaral en zijn boek.
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Op donderdag 24 juli 2008 12:03 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Hmm, dit ga ik nog eens rustig doorlezen, er staan dingen in die ik niet helemaal meteen kan plaatsen, b.v. wanneer is Maddy WOC gemaakt en waarom? Door wie?
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http://ionglobaltrends.bl(...)will-high-court.html
Huh? Daar zijn toch al posten over geweest? Madeleine is een paar weken na de 'vermissing' Word of Court verklaard door de ouders, op advies van hun advocaten. Daarom was het mogelijk die zo gewilde 81 documenten te verlrijgen, met als smoes om verder zelf te gaan zoeken, is dat toegekend. (onder het mom van bescherming en privay van Madeliene dus geen openbare publicatie...) "The Telegraph can also disclose that Madeleine was made a ward of court last summer at the request of the McCanns, to empower judges to act in her best interests in any legal dispute such as the case which is about to be heard. " Hier gepost: En in dit deel van dit topic hebben we er over gepost.
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FROM ASTRO

Interview with Gonçalo Amaral in Correio da Manhã today

“The investigation was syndicated”

Gonçalo Amaral laments that “the investigation was syndicated”. In the first interview during which he speaks about the process, he defends that Maddie died at the Ocean Club. The book is launched in Lisbon today and promises to launch the controversy again

Correio da Manhã – As the case investigator, what is your thesis?

Gonçalo Amaral – The little girl died in the apartment. Everything is in the book, which is faithful to the investigation until September: it reflects the understanding of the Portuguese and the English police and of the Public Ministry. For all of us, until then, the concealment of the cadaver, the simulation of abduction and the exposure or abandonment were proved.

What led you to indict the McCanns over all of those crimes?

It all starts with an abduction theory that is forced by the parents. And the abduction is based on two facts: one is Jane Tanner’s testimony that says she saw a man passing in front of the apartment, carrying a child; the other is the bedroom window, which, according to Kate, was open when it should have been closed. It was proved that none of that happened.

How was it proved?

Jane Tanner is not credible: she identifies and recognizes different people. She starts with Murat, later on someone else is mentioned, according to the drawing done by a witness, and she already says that is the person, completely different from Robert Murat.

Jane Tanner’s testimony drove the abduction theory.

In order to advance into that direction, it would be necessary to give her credit: there was no other indicium of the abduction. And the issue of the bedroom window, where Maddie and her siblings slept, is vital. It leads to simulation. This means, whether or not it was open when Jane says that she saw the man carrying the child. The little girl’s mother, Kate, is the only person that mentions the open window.

Does that undo the abduction theory?

There lies the solution. To be closed or not, is a strong indicium for simulation. And why does one simulate abduction, rather than simply saying that the child has disappeared? She could have opened the door and left…

Do Kate’s fingerprints reinforce the simulation theory?

They are the only fingerprints on the window. And in a position of opening the window.

Did Kate have suspicious attitudes?

She goes out for dinner and supposedly leaves three children asleep. She returns, one is missing, she goes out, leaving the window wide open with the twins asleep. And the night, according to what she says, was very cold…

What about Maddie’s bed?

It carries no signs that anyone was in it. Nor does the chair or the bed under the window. And there are no imprints from strangers.

The reconstitution is missing.

It was not carried out 10 or 15 days after the facts, because the resort was full of tourists. We trusted that it could be carried out at a later date. It couldn’t.

Did you request data about the group?

At 8 a.m. on the 4th, the request was made to the English liaison officer, but [the data] never arrived.

What did you want to know?

Who the people are, their antecedents. And the child, whether or not there are complaints against the parents or others. How she behaved in school, to find out if she was the target of abuse.

How important is the Irish witness within the case?

He explained where he and his family had seen, at 10 p.m. on the 3rd of May, a man carrying a little girl. And it wasn’t Murat. They did not see the face, but they described the athletic and clumsy manner in which he carried the child.

That was back in May.

When the McCanns returned to England, the witness, watching Gerry get off the plane and walking across the asphalt carrying his child, had a realization. By the manner in which he walked and the clumsy way that he carries the child, he is 70 to 80 percent certain that it was the person he saw that evening. Says he and say the other members of the family.

What did you do?

On the days before I left Portimão we were taking care of that trip to Portugal. Then, the hearing of that witness was requested through a liaison officer from the Irish police in Madrid, which took months. During that time, the witness was approached by persons that are connected to the McCanns’ staff, I don’t know with what intention. They felt pressured. Later on, the hearing arrived and he maintains the probability of 70 to 80 percent that it was Gerry who carried the little girl towards the beach.

Couldn’t that have been included in the rogatory letter?

It could and it should. The ideal would have been for him to come to Portugal, as a key witness. Just like the couple of doctors that describe the situation in Mallorca.

Once the abduction theory was set apart, how was the death theory built?

With the elements that exist, we could only reach an accident, natural death, any cause without the intervention of another person. We were cementing evidence and advancing to understand what happened to the little girl’s body. Also based on information from the British lab, about residues that were found inside the car that was rented by the McCanns.

Where and how could they have hidden the body for over twenty days?

That was what we were trying to find out. Searching within their friends, because the couple had a lot of acquaintances. We tried to understand where the little girl could have been during those twenty something days.

Out of reach from the searches.

Yes. There was information that the couple had been seen walking towards a certain apartment block, we were trying to understand which apartment it was. Who had access to that apartment. But everything stopped.

How do you interpret that stopping of everything, when you left?

It almost looks as if the investigation was syndicated.

It was even said that the blood that was found was not human.

The dogs only smell human blood. The sample that is collected and taken to England, to be analysed with the Low Copy Number technique, is microscopic. The technique does not allow them to state whether it is blood or any other type of fluid – but it guarantees that it is human.

The family tried to justify itself.

Later on, a brother-in-law and a cousin of Kate said that they had carried steaks in the trunk that had thawed, even garbage, but no. The dogs follow neither garbage smell nor non-human blood. Then there is a witness, that was never heard, a jurist that lived next to the couple, in the second house [villa] outside of the apartment, saying that the car trunk was left open during the night, for airing. But maybe that was because of the garbage…

Within the theory of the parents’ involvement, can you reconstitute that night?

We had already concluded, long before the Irish witness, that if those persons were involved, there was only one possibility. It pointed towards the beach. Not only because of what [locations] they knew but also due to the terrain’s conditions. In that area, it is not easy to dig a hole. One either knows where holes already exist, or it is not possible, within a short time lapse, to decide where to place a corpse without knowing the area. If there was involvement, it would have been towards the beach area. Which is later corroborated by the Irish witness.

At the time when the Irish tourist reportedly saw Gerry, there are various witness statements that place the child’s father at the Ocean Club.

They are not credible. The employees are unable to tell at what time the persons were there, for how long each one of them stayed away when they say they went to the apartments. And the group is not credible. They say that on the previous nights, every 30 minutes, each one of them went to check only on his own children; but on that night, between 9.30 and 10 p.m., someone curiously goes to check that apartment, almost every five minutes, leaving the rest unchecked.

And what about Gerry?

He justifies some of the time with a trip to the toilet. That is not five minutes, then he meets another individual outside. Hence the need for the reconstitution. To find out how long it took them to get to the apartments, what route they walked, etc. A reconstitution that should be joint with the restaurant’s movement, because when it is said that they asked for the food from 9 p.m. onwards, there was one person who ordered a steak. And that steak was heated again because someone was not there. It is necessary to find out whose steak that was. He was away for a much longer time period…

An adult carrying a child, until the beach, how long [does it take]?

Fifteen minutes.

How was it possible for the apartment to be rented out after the crime?

The apartment was immediately fully contaminated by the parents’ action, before the police arrived. A complete fair was built there and at a certain point, dogs were demanded to come inside the house.

You admitted the possibility that the children had been given sedatives.

The twins, with the lights on, with the lights off, with a crowd of people going in and out, slept until 2 a.m., when they were carried into another apartment. Even then, they continued to sleep. That sleep is not normal.

But the Judiciária did nothing.

Once again, we were inhibited. We thought about asking the parents to test their hair, in order to understand whether there were sedatives, but as soon as it was found out, it would be said that we were suspecting the parents, and it was being avoided at all costs that it became public that those suspicions existed.

How is there room for speculation about the DNA tests? It was those results that allowed you to advance with the arguido status.

The speculation is done by the scientist who performs the test. He starts out by saying, in his preliminary report, that it was easy to say that it was Maddie. Then he raised other questions. Of course nobody can be accused, based on that data alone.

“The cadaver was frozen”

Correio da Manhã - What do you think happened to the body?

Gonçalo Amaral – Everything indicated that the body, after having been at a certain location, was moved into another location by car, twenty something days later. With the residues that were found inside the car, the little girl had to have been transported inside it.

How can you state that?

Due to the type of fluid, we policemen, experts, say that the cadaver was frozen or preserved in the cold and when placed into the car boot, with the heat at that time [of the year], part of the ice melted. On a curb, for example, something fell from the trunk’s right side, above the wheel. It may be said that this is speculation, but it’s the only way to explain what happened there.

If the body was hidden in the beach area first, was it always out of reach for the searches?

The beach was searched at a time when it is not known whether the body was still there. Using dogs, but sniffer dogs have limitations, like the salted water, for example. Later on, it may have been removed.

“We should have done phone tapping”

Correio da Manhã – Did you feel political pressure during the investigation?

G.A. – Inhibition. One of the mistakes was that we did not advance on this group with everything that legally was within our reach: Tapping, surveillance. It was necessary, for example, to recover the clothes that the little girl was wearing when she left the crèche to go home. There, we thought: if we go, it will immediately be said that we suspect the parents. That inhibition happened throughout time.

And that led you towards the abduction.

We had to prove that there was no abduction, in order to focus on those persons afterwards…

How does the pressure appear?

Right on the morning of the 4th of May, with a consul calling the embassy and saying that the PJ wasn’t doing anything. Then an ambassador. Next, an advisor and the English prime minister.

“Payne is the last one to see her”

Correio da Manhã – When do testimonies concerning David Payne’s behaviour indicating sexual practices with minors arrive?

Gonçalo Amaral – In May. Something went wrong with that group during a holiday: David Payne made revealing gestures concerning behaviour towards children. Even towards Maddie. We asked for information but it arrived after the 26th of October. They sent the information without giving it any importance.

What exactly did arrive?

A couple of doctors spent holidays in Mallorca, in 2005, with David Payne, the McCanns and another couple. The lady says she saw Payne with his finger in his mouth, making a movement in and out, while rubbing his nipple with the other hand. And he was talking about Maddie, next to her father. Those statements should have been given a different treatment by the police. It was relevant to access the information, about doctors, who are just as credible as anyone else.

What else remains unclear concerning David Payne?

He will be the last one to see Maddie alive after 5.30 p.m., when she leaves the crèche. He meets Gerry playing tennis and asks him about Kate and the children. Gerry answers that they are in the apartment and he goes there. He returns 30 minutes later. Kate says it was 30 seconds. There is something not quite right here.

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Pre-publication

The evidence and the results of the case

“Arriving this far, it is important to make a deductive summary about this case. Which means, to reject what is false; to set aside what cannot be proved, because it is insufficient; to consider as valid and certain what has been proved.

What is proved

Therefore:

1. The abduction theory is defended by Maddie’s parents since the first moment;

2. Within the group, only her parents stated that they observed the open window in the missing girl’s bedroom; the majority cannot witness it faithfully because they arrived at the apartment after the alarm was raised;

3. The only statement outside of the group that mentions the open window and the raised shutters comes from Amy, one of the Ocean Club’s nannies, who points her observation towards 10.20/10.30 p.m., which is some time after the alarm was raised and does not prove that it was open like that at the time when the crime happened;

4. The set of depositions and witness statements exposes a high number of imprecision, incongruence and contradictions – which, in some cases, may be typified as false testimonies. In particular, the key statement for the abduction theory, from Jane Tanner, which loses all credibility due to the fact that it successively evolved throughout various moments in time, becoming ambiguous and disqualifying itself;

5. There is a cadaver that has not been located, a conclusion that is validated by the English EVRD and CSI dogs and corroborated by the preliminary lab test results.

Certainties until October

“For me, and for the investigators that worked with me on the case until October 2007, the results that we reached were the following: 1. The minor Madeleine McCann died in apartment 5A at the Ocean Club, in Vila da Luz, on the evening of the 3rd of May 2007; 2. An abduction was simulated; 3. Kate Healy and Gerald McCann are suspected of involvement in the concealment of their daughter’s cadaver; 4. Death may have resulted from a tragic accident; 5. There is indicia of neglect in the guard and safety of the children.”

“Decisive diligence was never carried out”

“The Smith family [Irish witnesses] is available to make a formal recognition. We had already contacted the Smith family, from Ireland, whose patriarch was prepared to travel to the Algarve, to give a new statement and for a formal recognition […] following the recognition that he had made on television of the man who on the 3rd of May, in Vila da Luz, walked towards the beach carrying a little girl, a little girl that they had recognized as being Madeleine McCann.

The man that the Smith were talking about was, with a high degree of certainty, Gerald McCann, who they had seen on the English television news, on the day that the McCann couple returned [on their definitive trip] to the United Kingdom. That man that came down the airplane stairs and walked on the asphalt, carrying a child, was apparently the same man who, on the evening of the 3rd of May, walked into the direction of the beach, carrying Madeleine, who seemed to be deeply asleep.

When the situation was presented to the National Director of the Polícia Judiciária [Alípio Ribeiro at that time], he agreed with what was being suggested to him, [namely] the coming to the Algarve, at our expenses, of the elements of the Smith family that were able to testify the facts.”

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McCanns erased all the telephone calls

The calls on the couple’s mobile phones were erased, with the exception, in Kate’s case, of a call from her husband at 11.17 on that night of the 3rd of May, minutes after the disappearance was known. But this call is not registered on the mobile phone that belongs to Gerry, who erased all the phone calls of that day, presumably after he called Kate at that time. This fact, that was never clarified in terms of its motivation, intrigued the investigators.
Source: Correio da Manhã, 24.07.2008, paper edition Geplaatst op de site van Joana Morais en het 3arguidoforum. Gaan we straks lezen...

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Anyway, iemand heeft de moeite genomen het boek van Amaral ‘Truth of the Lie’ voor een groot gedeelte te vertalen. Charlotte schrijft: "Although I try my best with translating Portuguese into English, I am far from an expert. My inexperience may end up with either losing or adding words through mistranslation. The danger is that I may inadvertently alter the correct meaning of what Mr Amaral is reporting in his book.

Cláudia has bought a copy and is putting a great deal of time and effort into translating the relevant points on her blog (far more trustworthy than my attempts): Link: Proud of the PJ" Verder wat reacties op het 3arguidoforum

Ik heb nu het eerste deel gelezenm en net ook het interview met Amaral, en al eerder het summiere eindrapport van de PJ en ik moet zeggen dat ik het schokkend vind. Uit eerste hand, copper Amaral zat er vanaf het begin bovenop, valt te lezen hoe het onderzoek in Portugal is tegengewerkt en hoeveel bevindingen zijn weggewerkt, niet nader kunnen onderzoeken, kortom een aaneenschakeling van gebeurtenissen wat doet vermoeden dat er heel wat te verbergen valt. Verder valt op dat met name de Daily Express in het eerste half jaar met artikelen kwam (nu allemaal verdwenen) die nu deels heel anders lezen en dus niet voor niks de mond werd gesnoerd, inclusief een dikke schadevergoeding voor de McCanns. Wat een ongelofelijke beerput moet er verstopt worden....en dan denk ik inderdaad aan sexueel misbruik van een aantal personen. Niet voor niks mocht de PJ niet het Britse register van pedo's inzien voor nader onderzoek. Teveel om op te noemen wat er niet kon en mocht onderzocht worden. I'm totally flabbergasted en dan moet ik de rest van de vertaling nog lezen....

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Ready for a fight?! Er zit voor de McCanns ook niks anders op IMO, als ze geen actie ondernemen, dan is het al gauw, wie zwijgt stemt toe, nu ze dat wel doen ben ik heel benieuwd hoe dit gaat verlopen, wáár liegt Amaral, en hoe willen ze bloggers aanpakken en weet je veel welke internet-gebruikers nog meer... Gosh, hopelijk wordt het in een openbaar uitgevochten, of wordt het achter gesloten deuren 'geregeld.' ? Maar iig is het big time voor Amaral, gratis reclame....The gloves are ON!
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McCanns to sue cop over book
By VERONICA LORRAINE The Sun
Published: 25 Jul 2008

DEVASTATED Kate and Gerry McCann are to launch a legal blitz in Portugal after the publication of a scandalous book about the disappearance of their daughter Maddie.

In The Truth Behind The Lie, ex-police chief Goncalo Amaral details ludicrous allegations about the couple and the pals they dined with when Maddie vanished in Portugal last year. The McCanns plan to take action against Amaral, Portuguese newspapers which reprinted parts of the £10 book and bloggers who discussed it.

A source close to the family said last night: “The gloves are off. Amaral has over-stepped the mark and they feel they have been left with no choice. Enough is enough. “The lawyers are looking at pretty much everything.”

In the book, Amaral, 48, claims that cops suspected Kate and Gerry almost as soon as Maddie, now five, vanished in the Algarve. He also makes a serious allegation against one of their “Tapas 7” dining pals.

Earlier this week, Kate and Gerry, both 40 of Rothley, Leics, were officially cleared of any involvement in the case. Amaral, who was taken off the investigation last October, said last night: “This book is not revenge, it is not persecution. We can discuss the case in court if they want.”
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  vrijdag 25 juli 2008 @ 11:58:59 #56
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Goedemorgen!

Inderdaad Suko, wat een raar gevoel krijg je van die vertalingen van het boek van Amaral, er wordt in het rondje Anorak van vandaag ook druk gespeculeerd wie er nu aangeklaagd gaan worden....
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Madeleine McCann: Suing Amaral, Mark Lawson’s Fact And Fiction, And Bloggers Beware
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann

THE GUARDIAN: “The Panama Mystery - Mr and Mrs Canoe’s case fascinates but can’t match crime fiction’s satisfying motives and denouement”

Mark Lawson does so love a good ending to a work of fiction and fact. A super-fiction. Take care you don’t confuse the two.

In his piece Lawson name checks them all: John and Anne Darwin, Radovan Karadzic, Fred and Rose West, Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, Ian Huntley, Harold Shipman and…

As the trial was coming to a close, I was at the Harrogate Crime-Writing Festival, and newspapers were reporting the latest developments in the Madeleine McCann case.


Bingo! Where were you?

One of the reasons for the huge popularity of crime fiction is that the genre explores, in a sanitised environment, the fear and prurient fascination we feel when faced with murders and abductions. Real-life criminality and fiction have become a loop, communicating with each other: several of the books discussed at Harrogate featured missing children; in two years, expect a slew of novels about husbands and wives who mysteriously disappear.

Can you tell the difference between fact and fiction? Now read on…

THE SUN: “McCanns to sue cop over book”.

DEVASTATED Kate and Gerry McCann are to launch a legal blitz in Portugal after the publication of a scandalous book about the disappearance of their daughter Maddie.

In The Truth Behind The Lie, ex-police chief Goncalo Amaral details ludicrous allegations about the couple and the pals they dined with when Maddie vanished in Portugal last year.

Who gets sued?

The McCanns plan to take action against Amaral, Portuguese newspapers which reprinted parts of the £10 book and bloggers who discussed it.

Anorak did not discuss the book’s merit. We did not reproduce a single quote from the book. But can bloggers who did be sued effectively? Many are men and women of straw. What can the outcome be? Best for bloggers, perhaps, to avoid the matter? Or get a crack moderation team – like Anorak. But what, then , of freedom of speech?

Says Amaral: “This book is not revenge, it is not persecution. We can discuss the case in court if they want.”

In the context of a libel case, they might well…

DAILY MAIL: “We failed, says Maddie police chief… but he refuses to apologise to her parents”

Says Amaral: “’There will be no apology, I was just doing my job.”

As a writer…?

DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Madeleine McCann case: Portuguese police admit failings

The police detective who led the search for Madeleine McCann has admitted that there were some failings in the investigation but refused to accept responsibility for not solving the case…

Several hundred people queued up to collect copies of “Maddie The truth of the Lie” and many congratulated Mr Amaral for his courage to speak out.


BELFAST TELEGRPAH: “McCann case detective’s book to get English translation”

Who will review it if it published in the UK?

THE HERALD: “Sympathy for McCanns must be tempered”

Letters to the editor:

How kind Colette Douglas Home is to Gerry and Kate McCann (Comment, July 22). She uses many column inches pouring scorn on the Portuguese police (perhaps justifiably, I don’t know), showering Gerry and Kate with sympathy (I, too, feel for them), but only makes passing reference to the action that, had it not happened, would have prevented this heartbreaking event from occurring in the first place.
This is clearly their “decision to leave her sleeping while they met friends for dinner”.
- Allistair Matheson, Selkirk.

Colette’s opinion - that Gerry McCann is handsome and Kate McCann beautiful - is irrelevant. The eye of the beholder? Colette states: “And they will always carry the burden of their decision to leave her sleeping while they met friends for dinner.” What kind of parents, in a foreign land, needlessly leave their child, not yet four years old, asleep without a child-minder and out of sound or sight, while they indulge themselves with their friends?

The McCanns deserve all the anguish they brought upon themselves through poor judgment, and not endless public sympathy. Madeleine is the victim. I hope and pray that she is unharmed and is being looked after in loving care, however wrongfully.
- Donald C Irving, Ayr.


And on it goes…
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  vrijdag 25 juli 2008 @ 12:04:29 #57
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Op donderdag 24 juli 2008 18:10 schreef Suko het volgende:

Huh? Daar zijn toch al posten over geweest? Madeleine is een paar weken na de 'vermissing' Word of Court verklaard door de ouders, op advies van hun advocaten. Daarom was het mogelijk die zo gewilde 81 documenten te verlrijgen, met als smoes om verder zelf te gaan zoeken, is dat toegekend. (onder het mom van bescherming en privay van Madeliene dus geen openbare publicatie...) "The Telegraph can also disclose that Madeleine was made a ward of court last summer at the request of the McCanns, to empower judges to act in her best interests in any legal dispute such as the case which is about to be heard. " Hier gepost: En in dit deel van dit topic hebben we er over gepost.


Ja, er zijn idd posts over geweest, na die uitspraken van die Judge ben ik niet helemaal zeker over de motieven, het valt allemaal iets te mooi in elkaar, die 81 bewijsstukken die zomaar opgeeist konden worden, het feit dat de pers een gagorder had, ik begin steeds meer te vermoeden dat dit vantevoren geregisseerd was net als een heleboel andere dingen.
Bijvoorbeeld dat de McCanns dit niet zelf hebben bedacht maar dat het ze is ingefluisterd, dat zou heel kwalijk zijn, een slachtoffer ward of court maken om de ouders te beschermen tegen het onderzoek naar hen.
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Hajo Kahaarin. Ik was al overtuigd maar keer op keer word ik daarin bevestigd, het stinkt enorm, en volgens mij knijpen ze 'm daar in Rotley. Inderdaad geregisseerd, maar verloopt alles wel zoals ze hadden gepland....? Nu weer het volgende, bron:

Correio da Manhã. is kennelijk op oorlogspad, na wat stukken uit het boek van Amaral+interview komt de krant nu met een verhaal over die Spaanse PI's Metodo 3, ingehuurd door de McCanns voor enorme bedragen.
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“McCann's detectives suspects of attempted murder”

Private investigators hired by the McCann are being investigated by the Polícia Judiciária department of Faro for suspected extortion and attempted murder, according to Correio da Manhã. The case involves a former inmate who was paid by detectives from Método 3 to give informations that he allegedly obtained, while in jail, from João Cipriano, the uncle of Joana Cipriano.

The crime inquiry is related with events from several months ago, when detectives from Metodo 3 paid an undisclosed amount of money to the former inmate, who claimed to have important information about Joana and Madeleine McCann. The source of this information was João Cipriano, the uncle of Joana, jailed for 16 years, like his sister, Joana's mother, for the murder of the child, whose body never appeared.

When both men where on jail, João Cipriano allegedly told the other man he had recent pictures of Joana, who disappeared four years ago, from a small village also in Algarve. But he never gave Metodo 3 detectives any pictures or the details concerning Madeleine McCann.

Later, the former inmate complained to PJ, accusing the detectives of harassment and alleged murder attempt, claiming the private investigators tried to run over him with a car.

After Madeleine disappeared, many reports from British Media connected the two cases, sometimes quoting relatives from Cipriano family, or former police experts like Mark William-Thomas, who told Sky News that “the answer to the case may lie in the disappearance of an eight-year-old Portuguese girl in 2004.” The Sun interviewed Leonor Cipriano's husband who said he was “worried Kate will be framed for a crime she did not commit, the way it happened to my wife.”

Goncalo Amaral was also in charge of the investigation and has been accused of concealing evidence that the mother Joana Cipriano, was beaten by PJ officers, to make her confess the crime. British newspapers were quick to compare both situations, and the Daily Mail even wrote that Amaral was set to face trial for torturing the mother of another missing girl.”

This is not the first time detectives from Metodo 3 have troubles with police. On February, Antonio J.R. was arrested and accused of being implicated in the theft of 400 kg of cocaine, when he was inspector in Barcelona's police force. Another Metodo 3 detective has paid witnesses in Morocco, in exchange of statements from them saying they have seen Madeleine McCann in that country.
Eerder was in het eindrapport al te lezen (en in het boek van Amaral) dat mogelijk Metodo 3 de Ierse getuige Mr. Smith had bezocht toen bekend werd dat hij en z'n familie Gerry McCann op het strand had gezien met Madeleine en later herkende de familie Gerry toen hij van de vliegtuig-trap liep met één van de tweeling. Tjonge, die familie Smith mag wel persoonlijke beveiliging nemen, áls ze dat al niet gedaan hebben....
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“Decisive diligence was never carried out” (eerdere post)

“The Smith family [Irish witnesses] is available to make a formal recognition. We had already contacted the Smith family, from Ireland, whose patriarch was prepared to travel to the Algarve, to give a new statement and for a formal recognition […] following the recognition that he had made on television of the man who on the 3rd of May, in Vila da Luz, walked towards the beach carrying a little girl, a little girl that they had recognized as being Madeleine McCann.

The man that the Smith were talking about was, with a high degree of certainty, Gerald McCann, who they had seen on the English television news, on the day that the McCann couple returned [on their definitive trip] to the United Kingdom. That man that came down the airplane stairs and walked on the asphalt, carrying a child, was apparently the same man who, on the evening of the 3rd of May, walked into the direction of the beach, carrying Madeleine, who seemed to be deeply asleep.

When the situation was presented to the National Director of the Polícia Judiciária [Alípio Ribeiro at that time], he agreed with what was being suggested to him, [namely] the coming to the Algarve, at our expenses, of the elements of the Smith family that were able to testify the facts.”
Snipper uit Amaral's boek:"The McCanns go back to England and when they arrive and go down the plane's steps Mr Smith in Ireland regonises Gerry as the mand he had nseen carrying a child on that night. He contacts the police when his return to Portugal is being taken care of when Mr Amaral is pushed from the investigation. Afterwards, the next person in charge for the case decides that Mr Smith can be interviewed in his country through a rogatory letter. We all know that nothing happened."

(Eerder over die Mr. Smith: hier en hier. Zou best eens kunnen dat Mr. Smith is bezocht door Metodo 3, iets wat Clarence Mitchell al in z'n hoofd had: "A spokesman for the McCanns said detectives from the Spanish agency hired to investigate the case are now hoping to speak to the Smiths. Retired Mr Smith, 58, does not wish to appear on camera in order to protect his family from media intrusion." Sky News Monday April 07, 2008 Missing Madeleine McCann: Irish Witness 'Clears' Murat Kan best zijn dat de fout niet alleen bij het verhoor-verzoek ligt maar dat Mr. Smith is 'silenced'... )

In mijn optiek is het allemaal overgoten met crimineel gedrag van de bovenste plank, eigenlijk door alle partijen. Wat dachten we van vette fraude nu eigenlijk wel duidelijk is dat Madeleine niet meer leeft en zelfs Kate dat vorig jaar heeft geuit en dan toch geld vragen voor het fonds???? Uit Amaral's boek: "The McCanns ask for Mr Krugel, the south african body finder to come to PDL. Both police forces thought the idea was a bit ridiculous but didn't want to be accused of not doing everything. The couple would now admit that Madeleine could be dead unlike what they were publicly and still are claiming. The are where Krugel said Madeleine0s body would be had already been searched by GNR and its dogs but it was searched again. Nothing was found."

Misschien is het wel goed geweest dat de PJ de zaak nu even heeft losgelaten, nou ja voor het gezicht dan, je kan er donder op zeggen dat achter de schermen er wordt doorgewerkt. Laat de rotzooi maar naar buiten komen, dit alles in het kader van: "waar is Madeleine en wat is er met haar gebeurd." Ik heb nog veel meer wetenswaardigheden/feitjes gelezen, stukje bij beetje wordt de beerput geopend....het is nog lang niet gedaan, no way!

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  vrijdag 25 juli 2008 @ 13:41:24 #59
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Op vrijdag 25 juli 2008 12:48 schreef Suko het volgende:
Hajo Kahaarin. Ik was al overtuigd maar keer op keer word ik daarin bevestigd, het stinkt enorm, en volgens mij knijpen ze 'm daar in Rotley. Inderdaad geregisseerd, maar verloopt alles wel zoals ze hadden gepland....? Nu weer het volgende, bron:

Correio da Manhã. is kennelijk op oorlogspad, na wat stukken uit het boek van Amaral+interview komt de krant nu met een verhaal over die Spaanse PI's Metodo 3, ingehuurd door de McCanns voor enorme bedragen.
Niet alleen, de McCanns hebben ook wat te zeggen:
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http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=132935&command=displayContent&sourceNode=132702&contentPK=21158631&folderPk=77465&pNodeId=132393
LAWYERS TRANSLATE BOOK ON MADELEINE CASE

10:30 - 25 July 2008

Lawyers acting for the McCann family are translating into English a controversial book by the former detective in charge of the Madeleine McCann investigation.

Goncalo Amaral's book was published yesterday in Portugal and contains his assertion that Madeleine died in her family's holiday flat in Praia da Luz.

Publishers Guerra e Paz told the Portuguese newspaper Jornal de Noticias yesterday that the book would be translated, although no firm date or distribution deal has been agreed.

The McCanns' spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said extracts from the book published online had already been translated.

The McCanns' legal team have also begun translating the work, entitled A Verdade da Mentira (The Truth Of The Lie).

Mr Mitchell said: "The fact that it is being translated makes no difference.

"Every single word is being looked at by our lawyers and they will not hesitate to take swift legal action if any passage requires it.

"He is a discredited, former Portuguese police officer who was removed from the Madeleine case and is directly at odds with the Portuguese attorney general, who made it extremely clear on Monday that Kate and Gerry are innocent of any crime.

"On top of that, he is seeking to make money out of Madeleine, which is despicable."

He said it was not the family's intention to give the book any publicity.

Mr Amaral was removed from the case in October after reportedly criticising British police. He claims they held back a potentially important lead for six months and questioned their relationship with the McCanns.

Leicestershire Police did not want to comment on Mr Amaral's allegations.
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Eerder was in het eindrapport al te lezen (en in het boek van Amaral) dat mogelijk Metodo 3 de Ierse getuige Mr. Smith had bezocht toen bekend werd dat hij en z'n familie Gerry McCann op het strand had gezien met Madeleine en later herkende de familie Gerry toen hij van de vliegtuig-trap liep met één van de tweeling. Tjonge, die familie Smith mag wel persoonlijke beveiliging nemen, áls ze dat al niet gedaan hebben....
Ik hoop echt dat dhr. Smith een beetje in de gaten wordt gehouden idd.
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Snipper uit Amaral's boek:"The McCanns go back to England and when they arrive and go down the plane's steps Mr Smith in Ireland regonises Gerry as the mand he had nseen carrying a child on that night. He contacts the police when his return to Portugal is being taken care of when Mr Amaral is pushed from the investigation. Afterwards, the next person in charge for the case decides that Mr Smith can be interviewed in his country through a rogatory letter. We all know that nothing happened."

(Eerder over die Mr. Smith: hier en hier. Zou best eens kunnen dat Mr. Smith is bezocht door Metodo 3, iets wat Clarence Mitchell al in z'n hoofd had: "A spokesman for the McCanns said detectives from the Spanish agency hired to investigate the case are now hoping to speak to the Smiths. Retired Mr Smith, 58, does not wish to appear on camera in order to protect his family from media intrusion." Sky News Monday April 07, 2008 Missing Madeleine McCann: Irish Witness 'Clears' Murat Kan best zijn dat de fout niet alleen bij het verhoor-verzoek ligt maar dat Mr. Smith is 'silenced'... )
We hebben al eerder gezien dat Metodo3 voor niets terugdeinst als ze denken er een zaak mee op te kunnen lossen toch?
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In mijn optiek is het allemaal overgoten met crimineel gedrag van de bovenste plank, eigenlijk door alle partijen. Wat dachten we van vette fraude nu eigenlijk wel duidelijk is dat Madeleine niet meer leeft en zelfs Kate dat vorig jaar heeft geuit en dan toch geld vragen voor het fonds???? Uit Amaral's boek: "The McCanns ask for Mr Krugel, the south african body finder to come to PDL. Both police forces thought the idea was a bit ridiculous but didn't want to be accused of not doing everything. The couple would now admit that Madeleine could be dead unlike what they were publicly and still are claiming. The are where Krugel said Madeleine0s body would be had already been searched by GNR and its dogs but it was searched again. Nothing was found."

Misschien is het wel goed geweest dat de PJ de zaak nu even heeft losgelaten, nou ja voor het gezicht dan, je kan er donder op zeggen dat achter de schermen er wordt doorgewerkt. Laat de rotzooi maar naar buiten komen, dit alles in het kader van: "waar is Madeleine en wat is er met haar gebeurd." Ik heb nog veel meer wetenswaardigheden/feitjes gelezen, stukje bij beetje wordt de beerput geopend....het is nog lang niet gedaan, no way!
Dat was mijn eerste gedachte ook, laat het maar lekker even in de kast en onderzoek op je gemak alle feiten nog maar eens.
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Op vrijdag 25 juli 2008 13:41 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Niet alleen, de McCanns hebben ook wat te zeggen:
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Ik hoop echt dat dhr. Smith een beetje in de gaten wordt gehouden idd.
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We hebben al eerder gezien dat Metodo3 voor niets terugdeinst als ze denken er een zaak mee op te kunnen lossen toch?
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Dat was mijn eerste gedachte ook, laat het maar lekker even in de kast en onderzoek op je gemak alle feiten nog maar eens.
Nou volgens The Sun gaat er al ge-sued worden, weliswaar volgens een source dan, totdat Clarence Mitchell dit heeft verklaard zal het wel (nog) niet waar zijn, want hij zegt altijd de 'waarheid.' Yeah, Metodo 3, voor als er iets valt op te ruimen, voor als men verlegen zit om een 'bezoekje', voor al uw zwart-geld, voor al uw coke-transportjes, voor al uw getuigennisjes voor een quick buck, voor uw vermiste kindje > is echt voor/met kerst thuis...kortom, van alle markten thuis en over de prijs worden we het wel eens...

Nu we het toch over The Sun hebben, in datzelfde bericht stond dat mogelijk ook Bloggers worden aangepakt indien ze het boek van Amaral bespreken, wat schrijft de altijd subtiele maar ook scherpe blogster Charlotte hierover, ik kan wel de link alleen geven maar wie weet is zij en een aantal bloggers plotseling verdwenen...:
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I don’t normally quote from the Sun newspaper for obvious reasons but I will today ....

....According to the Sun:

“The McCanns plan to take action against Amaral, Portuguese newspapers which reprinted parts of the £10 book and bloggers who discussed it.”

I did mention in my previous post that the Mr and Mrs McCann have become ‘libel-happy.’ You have to wonder just where this will all stop. What ever next? You can discuss conspiracy theories with regard the governments of the world, you can discuss the possible guilt or innocence of Michael Jackson's case and you can discuss the possible guilt or innocence of anyone else, but you cannot discuss the McCanns.

However, you can discuss the McCanns providing it is only in a positive light:

Mrs McCann did not add that there was a breeze that closed the door as an afterthought.

Mr McCann did not add that he thought there was someone in the apartment when he checked on the children as an afterthought.

There’s a plausible explanation as to why Jane Tanner changed her description of the apparent ‘abductor’ from carrying a bundle in a blanket that could have been a child, to carrying a child across his arms wearing pyjamas with a pinky hue.

There’s a plausible explanation as to why Jane Tanner explained the ‘abductor’ was heading towards the beach then later changed that to heading in the direction of Mr Murat’s residence.

Jane Tanner could not describe the face of the abductor in her statement to the police but there is probably a plausible explanation as to how she is 80% sure that the extremely detailed face of the person apparently seen by Gail Cooper was the man that Jane Tanner had also seen.

Mr McCann mentioned that the children could have been sedated by the ‘abductor’ after people wondered why the twins slept through all the commotion because he genuinely believes that.

Kate McCann was telling the truth that Cuddle cat was put on a high shelf and reports that there was no high shelf in the children’s bedroom is a myth.

The British sniffer dogs have framed them

The Portuguese police have framed them

Anyone who suspects they had anything to do with Madeleine’s disappearance will be sued because this is the way that the McCanns can prove their innocence.

Anyone who repeats the work of Mr Amaral’s book will be sued because this is the way the McCanns can prove he’s lying.

British people want to buy Mr Amaral's book because they wish to discredit his work, not because they want to know why the McCanns want to sue him.

Team McCann, the McCanns or sources close to the McCanns have not slated the Portuguese police in anyway

There’s a plausible explanation as to why some of the Tapas9 group pointed the finger at Mr Murat as hanging around 5A apartment in Praia da Luz.

There’s a plausible explanation why other people, other than the McCanns, did not see Madeleine after 5:30pm on May 3rd 2007.

Portuguese police, Mr Amaral and anyone else in authority who may suggest that the McCanns had something to do with Madeleine’s disappearance are liars.

There’s a plausible explanation why the McCanns are the only ones to immediately believe that Madeleine had been abducted by a paedophile gang rather than walk out of the apartment looking for her parents.

There were details to suggest that a paedophile gang had taken Madeleine.

Metodo3 have done everything they can to locate Madeleine.

There was a plausible explanation for Metodo3 to state that they know where Madeleine is, who has her and will have her home by Christmas [2007]

The McCanns have used the fund money for finding Madeleine (and only two mortgage payments) and have nothing to hide, therefore they will be able to release audits of the fund.

Most missing children have been taken and/or died at the hands of family members, friends or someone the child knew but this does not apply to the McCanns because Madeleine was abducted.

In every case of missing children the parents are scrutinised first by police but this does not apply to the McCanns because they said they knew Madeleine had been abducted.

Portugal does not have the lowest rate of missing children

The McCanns have a plausible explanation why they decided to hire the best lawyers (including a lawyer who specialises in extradition) money can buy as soon as they were made arguido’s .

There are plausible explanation for any inconsistencies in the Tapas9 statements

The McCanns want to stop any negative talk about them because they have nothing to hide.

The British sniffer/cadaver dogs signalled:

*Two items of clothing belonging to Mrs McCann

*One item of clothing belonging to Madeleine

*The key of their rented car

*On Cuddle cat

*In the boot of the hire car

*Behind the sofa in the living room of their rented apartment

*Beside the wardrobe in the McCanns bedroom

*In the flowerbed outside

Because the McCanns were being framed but not sure by who (the British dogs? The British dog handlers? Portuguese police?)

Kate McCann, a (two-day?) part time GP, was in contact with 6 dead bodies prior to the holiday

Kate McCann took Madeleine’s favourite toy from Madeleine to take to work when Kate McCann was in contact with 6 corpses.

The highly trained cadaver/sniffer dogs mistook the ‘scent of death’ for rotting meat or dirty nappies.

The blood in the boot of the hire car came from a cloth they had mopped Madeleine’s knee with when she grazed it on the stairs leading up to the plane.

DNA was transferred to the boot of the hire car by Madeleine’s sandals and/or the twins nappies, toys etc.

Kate McCann washed Cuddlecat because it was grubby and was probably hurt with the thought that this may wash away Madeline’s scent.

Kate McCann carried the toy everywhere with her because it helped her to feel close to Madeleine, not because it was being used as a prop or that this may transfer her DNA/scent to the cat.

The McCanns are devout Catholics - Kate McCann's mother, Mrs Healy, was lying when she said in an interview that Gerry and Kate are not.

The McCanns were within the bounds of responsible parenting for leaving their children alone every night because they believed it was a safe environment.

The McCanns knew that the children would not wake while in the apartment alone (because they’re heavy sleepers) and therefore they would not get into difficulties or go looking for their parents or hurt themselves between the 20 minute checks.

Mr Mitchell’s statement that most parents leave their children alone must be true and was not said merely to excuse the McCanns.

The abductor broke in, sedated the children and took Madeleine in the small window of opportunity noted by Kate McCann.

All witness sightings are genuine (suggestions that it was for the purpose of distracting the investigation is lies) and now that the McCanns arguido status has been lifted and the Portuguese police have shelved the case the sightings will continue.

The McCanns only take libel action where ever possible because of lies being told about them.

The McCanns are not selfish and understand that they cannot keep relying on the generosity of the public and may sell their home and downsize so that they can add their own money to the public donations and libel monies in their fund.

The McCanns previously stated that they wanted their arguido status lifted so that they could return to Portugal to renew awareness of Madeleine and now that their wish has been granted they will consider going to Portugal but not yet.

Gerry McCann has not contradicted his statement that “libel is secondary to finding Madeleine” by remaining in England to sue the next available person.

Metodo3 have worked tirelessly in the search for Madeleine and earned their £50,000 per month wages and £8,000 retainer. And perhaps audits may be released to prove this now.

There was an £80,000 poster campaign and there is probably a plausible explanation as to why there was no media or photographs to record the huge and important campaign being put in place.
Het is even weer een 'zit' maar het geeft ook een aardig overzichtje van het een en ander aan uitspraken van de McConns...En verder meldt Paulo Reis dat ook Spanje een pedo-paradijs is, het 'verhaaltje' zelf lezen maar deze snipper verklaard idd de schijnheiligheid van de Britten:
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After Madeleine McCann disappeared from Algarve, British Media published stories about the lack of control and the lenient punishment, from Portuguese authorities, concerning sexual offenders. Daily Mail even had a story about “Why Portugal is a haven for paedophiles - the disturbing backcloth to the Madeleine case.” Well, it seems that it's not only Portugal, the Spanish also may have a problem with Judges and sexual offenders. But what is curious is British newspapers reporting that British paedophiles are allowed to travel to Portugal and Portuguese police is not informed of that. Exporting a problem?"
Om uit je vel te springen, dat de PJ geen inzage kreeg in de sex offenders register (wegens privacy) in de UK om de achtergronden te weten van bepaalde figuren...

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[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 25-07-2008 20:40:08 (typo's) ]
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De hoogste tijd voor een mening van de Portugese blogster Joana Morais, zij en een aantal andere Portugese posters houden ons lezers buiten hun eigen land dag in dag uit op de hoogte van de zaak Madeleine McCann, wat voor nieuws hadden wij anders gelezen dan wat de Britse propaganda-pers (wat zich journalistiek noemt) ons dagelijks voorschotelt??? Haar verhaal is hier te lezen > McCanns's Censure Portuguese Democracy and Freedom of Speech

Maar niet alleen Joana Morais heeft schoon genoeg van de McCanns die mensen de mond willen snoeren, zie ook het prachtstuk van Charlotte, ook Eduardo Dâmaso, Director-Adjunto van de Portugese krant Correio da Manhã heeft een en ander op te merken wat betreft Clarence Mitchell: bron:
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Clarence Mitchell Correio da Manhã

Day by day
Eduardo Dâmaso, Director-Adjunto
26 July 2008 - 00h30

Provisional translation:

The spokesman of the McCann family is a shark accustomed to move within the British politics. He knows how to dose the words and choose the moments to make theatrical - as in that hilarious episode in which he allowed to be filmed while having an alleged telephone conversation with the couple - and in others, where the communication is serious.

Yesterday, halfway between the theatricality and seriousness, he threatened the newspapers that have reproduced the book of Gonçalo Amaral with civil processes. "Either they are very brave or very stupid!" said Mitchell. It's neither one, nor the other. In Portugal - it is believed ... -- Still exists the freedom of expression, and without offending anyone, you can still write and say things different from what it is said by the McCann's and Mr. Mitchell. One can still write about the doubts that an investigation raises. One can still say, presumably, that a filing is far from being a declaration of acquittal. Mr. Mitchell would like to cast a mantle of silence on the subject but that will be quite impossible for him. Mr. Mitchell, incidentally, is the one who owns something to silence. At least, that would be advisable in his quality of witness - but, in this matter, the Portuguese authorities are very generous, especially when it concerns British subjects...
Zo, die zit... En verder komt er nog een artikel uit dezelfde krant wat momenteel nog wordt vertaald door Joana Morais, alvast een voorproefje van Nigel:
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Kate forced political pressure Correio da Manhã

CM reveals secrets of the Maddie Case

26 July 2008

"Increase the political pressure". The phrase, from Kate McCann, written in the notes found in her house, and that the PJ apprehended, clarify on how Maddie's parents intended to manage the disappearance of their daughter, putting it in the front pages of the media. and transforming it into a case with political contours.

Read all the details in Saturday's edition of Correio da Manhã.

Other headlines:

Gordon Brown: Phoned twice on the way to Fátima

London Diplomacy organised trips for McCanns
Gisteravond had Netwerk een reportage over deze kwestie en ook over Amaral, was niet eens slecht te noemen gezien het feit dat Madeleine niet zo veel aandacht krijgt in Nederland. Hier is de reportage te zien > http://www.netwerk.tv/

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Site Admin bjr, van het 3arguidoforum:
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"Due to the change in circumstances with regards to the McCann case, we have held a meeting and we are closing the following forums down to registered members only. These forums are Madeleine McCann - The Way Ahead - Madeleine's voice Forum, The Reference Forum, Justice for Maddy Forum and the Translations Forum. All other forums will be open to viewing for guests. We have also decided to delete all zero posters. Please could all those that join make at least one post otherwise your account will be deemed as inactive and will be deleted. This will be done over the course of today and all members will now have to log in to view or post on the3arguidos Maddy related forums. Thank you for your co-operation in this matter and welcome to all new members."
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Zo jammer, het inmiddels heel bekende 3arguidoforum is straks alleen nog door geregistreerde gebruikers te lezen, en ook nog als ze meer dan 1 post plaatsen. Bekend is dat er velen all over the world alleen lezen, like me, zo blijft je ook een beetje op de hoogte wat posters zelf uitzoeken achter een nieuwsbericht en kan er over worden gediscusseerd. Nu wordt het een gesloten community waardoor een hoop informatie+discussies verloren gaat. Waarom dan niet registreren? IMO moet het niet nodig zijn je overal te moeten registreren, waarbij dus je ipnummer en emailadres bekend wordt (zie post hieronder van xklamation) en wie kunnen daar misbruik van maken??? Individuele posters kunnen ook aangeklaagd worden, men zou dan beter moeten modereren. De hele database van het 3arguidoforum is overigens onlangs gehackt geweest en daar hebben posters enorm veel schade door geleden. En verder schijnt het 3arguidoforum nogal last te hebben van pro-McCanns die massaal klagen bij de serverhost. Het zal toch niet te maken hebben met de dreiging van het team McCann bloggers aan te klagen die niet zo positief over hen schrijven??? Posters die alleen proberen achter waarheden te komen die de Britse pers verdomd te doen, neuh...daar heeft het vast niet mee te maken....
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xklamation aka Joana Morais schrijft hierover hetvolgende, aangezien eental posters weggaan zoals ene Pear: "I agree with Pear, I can read Portuguese, English, French and Spanish, and a little Italian too - I started translating the News from Portuguese in to English - as that is considered now to be the universal language, and my purpose was to share - share information, share my thoughts, share the news and the events that happened here in Portugal. I don't have control of who reads my blog, and I do not care if it is a pro and anti, a silent person, a monkey or a member of the McCann team - like metodo3 who actually had a subscription via mail to read my blog - sorry couldn't resist!

Anyway, I do it for the freedom of information, for the truth and Justice. And couldn't agree less in creating an elite of posters and forcing people to give their e-mail and IP address details if they do not wish to do it. Members should join because they have something to contribute with, to say, to discuss - Guests should be treated as guests welcomed to read and if the time and desire arises then join.

The 3 arguidos should not change the name, shouldn't change the free and open style and above all should welcome readers from all over the world and all languages to be posted as well.

Free Flow of Information!
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Ondertussen...Robert Murat gaat die Tapas-vrienden voor het gerecht slepen: Robert Murat Sues McCann Friends en is de voormalig president van Portugal ook niet blij met het sluiten van de zaak:
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Jorge Sampaio, the former President of the Republic of Portugal believes that if the suspicions presented in Amaral's book are true they should have been used to reopen the process and not to write a book.

With the process archived and the controversy in the bookshops, the case Maddie keeps on causing several reactions. The most recent comes from the former president of the Republic.Jorge Sampaio does not confirm if he already read or intends to read the book of Gonçalo Amaral, but he confessed that he is surprised with another one of the protagonists of this case.

The national former director of the Judiciary Police considered the archiving of the case to be hasty, but before, still at the commands of the Judiciary he used the same word, haste, to classify one of the high moments of the investigations.

Jorge Sampaio joins now the chorus of criticism to Alípio Ribeiro.

Source: TVI

SIC News: Jornal da Noite 25-07-2008 "Alípio Ribeiro had a "unacceptable attitude" said Jorge Sampaio. The former president harshly criticizes the statements made by the former PJ director." Joana Morais
Dat kan nog best een vette diplomatieke rel worden tussen de UK en Portugal en binnen Portugal...

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Kate McCann, het zwakke fragiele vrouwtje??? Ik dacht het niet, al vrij snel nam zij de touwtjes in handen, snippers van een artikel (vertaling Astro, Joana Morais) uit de Correio da Manhã
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Revelations –Maddie’s mother’s notes prove Gonçalo Amaral right

Kate McCann forces political pressure

The English prime minister called the couple directly and the British diplomacy took care of the travelling

“To increase the political pressure”. The phrase, by Kate McCann, written among the notes that were found in her house and which the Polícia Judiciária (PJ) had apprehended, is clear about the manner in which Maddie’s parents intended to manage their daughter’s disappearance, bringing it into the press’ first pages and turning it into a case with political outlines.

On the morning of the 23rd of May 2007 (twenty days after Maddie’s disappearance), before they left for the Sanctuary of Fátima, Kate and Gerry left Gordon Brown a message. Maddie’s mother describes it as a form of “raising the political pressure” and reveals that the present prime-minister – at that date, he was not in functions but had already been confirmed as Tony Blair’s successor – answered her only three hours later. He spoke with Gerry, was “very sympathetic and gave strength”, tells Kate, who describes the visit to the catholic sanctuary as overwhelming, potent and emotional.

On the same day in the afternoon, Gordon Brown called Maddie’s parents again. Kate’s notebooks do not report the conversation but one is able to understand that the purpose was to create political pressure, forcing the PJ to act swiftly.

Today, at more than a year’s distance from the child’s disappearance and after the case has been archived, Kate’s notes expose the pressures that were reported by the former coordinator of the case, Gonçalo Amaral, who from the moment when he was removed from the investigation, realized that the process would not produce an accusation.

With an investigation that was initially inclined towards the abduction theory, partly forced by the McCanns, the evidence of the pressures by the couple also explains the British press’ posture in the coverage of the case, mainly from the moment when Madeleine’s parents went from victims to suspects and arguidos. With the British prime minister himself supporting the McCanns, through direct and frequent phone calls that are revealed by Kate, it became almost impossible for the English government to help an investigation that had indicated the parents as guilty.

Apart from the contacts with Gordon Brown, Kate’s notebooks reveal other important allies. From the hiring of Clarence Mitchell, who at that point in time worked for the government, as an assistant, until the conversations with the wife of Tony Blair, the former British prime minister.

Mitchell actually had a pivotal role in the propaganda machine that was built by the McCanns within a few days, and which counted on the great help from the British diplomacy in all the trips that were carried out by Kate and Gerry.

The first and most media-exposed [trip] – to Rome, to be received by Pope Benedict XVI – was suggested by the assistant, on the 27th of May, after speaking to Francis Campbell, the British ambassador at the Vatican. “Rome is already preparing itself”, Kate wrote, anticipating that visit as what would become the “main” news on that day. One day later, the visit and the audience with the Pope were already confirmed, with a program that was prepared in a detailed manner.

On the 30th of May, after leaving the British consulate in Rome, Kate and Gerry, accompanied by the ambassador, made a strategic stop “for the photographers to catch an image looking at the Basilica”, and continued towards the Vatican, where they spent a few minutes with Benedict XVI. A moment that was described as very emotional, positive and important, and that summoned “loads of” journalists and photographers, which is definitely a concern that is always present with the couple.

After Rome, Madrid, Berlin and Morocco followed, trips with the purpose of publicizing Madeleine’s face and which always relied on passages through consulates or receptions by British ambassadors and political representatives of the corresponding countries.

According to Kate’s notes, the days started or ended with meetings, phone calls and emails. Cherie Blair, the wife of Tony Blair, Gordon Brown’s predecessor, was one of Kate’s contacts, as demonstrated by the reports of the 17th of July. Before Kate gives Sky News an interview, she speaks with Cherie, who agrees to make a 20 second videoclip about Maddie for the English channel. On that same day, Blair himself pledges assistance and makes himself available for whatever is needed.

Kate’s notes:

“Left a message for Gordon Brown to call us in order to increase the political pressure” – Kate McCann, 23rd of May

“Gordon Brown called and spoke with Gerry – very sympathetic and gave strength. Somewhat emotive feeling afterwards” – Kate McCann, 23rd of May

“Clarence spoke to us about a possible visit to the Vatican. Rome is already preparing itself. Francis Campbell was spoken to” – Kate McCann, 27th of May


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The ambassador’s solidarity

On the 4th [of May], only hours after the alert of Madeleine’s disappearance was given, Kate wrote in her notes that the English ambassador, John Buck, had been in the apartment offering them his solidarity. She also noted the presence of two employees from the consulate and stressed the strong presence of the media on location. “There is news appearing in the United Kingdom”, Maddie’s mother remembered, also noting the “worrying” and “boring” presence of Yvone, the English social security technician who tried to understand whether there was anything in the family’s life that might explain the child’s absence.

It should be referred that on that very same day, the ambassador met with senior officials from the PJ to understand the outlines of the case.

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The news

Abduction theory – On the first days after Maddie’s disappearance, on the 3rd of May 2007, the abduction theory was the only one that was mentioned in the news. “Give back our Madeleine”, the parents appealed, not admitting any other possibility.

Visit to Fátima – Twenty days after Maddie’s disappearance, the McCann couple went to pray at the Sanctuary of Fátima. But before that, they called Gordon Brown in order to increase the political pressure.

Brown’s pressure – Only five days after the McCanns’ contact with the British prime minister, Gordon Brown’s pressures on Portugal because of the Maddie case were already known.

McCanns at the Vatican - The trip to the Vatican and the audience with Pope Benedict XVI were suggested by advisor Clarence Mitchell, who mobilized the British diplomacy in order to take the McCanns to Rome.
Overigens vond ik nog een uitspraak van Gerry McCann, die wel meer ''warme' uitspraken doet aangaande zijn dochter Madeleine. In een stuk (The Independent) over en met Kisty Wark van BBC's Newsnight, en haar betrokkenheid met de McCanns zei Gerry McCann het volgende: "He also insisted that the high profile of the case had done a wider good. "Madeleine's abduction has done more for missing children in Europe than anything else before it." Ik verbaasde me al eerder over BBC's Newsnight waarin een paar irritante fouten werden gemaakl, ik ging vervolgens op zoek naar één van die presentatoren/journalisten en wel die Schotse Kirsty Wark. In de Guadian staat beschreven hoe long time friend van de McCanns Jill Renwick: "spoke to Kate at 7am on the morning after Madeleine vanished." En verder:"This led to phone calls to GMTV, the CID, defence secretary Des Browne and Newsnight presenter Kirsty Wark. She also stopped John Brown, brother of the prime minister, who lived on the same street as her and asked him to bring it to the PM's attention." En verder is Kirsty Wark bekend met de McCanns via via etc. Hoe alles in elkaar grijpt en hoe daarom mede ook het Britse nieuws zo vervuild is. Kirsty Wark zei na die irritante reportage van de week dat Newsnight de kijker op de hoogte zou houden....

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  zondag 27 juli 2008 @ 12:29:30 #65
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Op zaterdag 26 juli 2008 13:08 schreef Suko het volgende:
Ondertussen...Robert Murat gaat die Tapas-vrienden voor het gerecht slepen: Robert Murat Sues McCann Friends en is de voormalig president van Portugal ook niet blij met het sluiten van de zaak:
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Dat kan nog best een vette diplomatieke rel worden tussen de UK en Portugal en binnen Portugal...
Goedemorgen.
Misschien wel, maar dat zijn imho bijzaken, haantjesgedrag en vingertje wijzen, wat me veel meer opvalt is dat de pers ook niet meer onverdeeld achter de McCanns staat, net wat jij zegt in je laatste post.

Hier staat:
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Madeleine McCann: Portugal Police Search And Eilis O’Hanlon Empathises
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann

SUNDAY PEOPLE: “Police hunt for Maddie ‘is still on’”

Portugal’s top cop has vowed to search “to the ends of the Earth” for Maddie McCann even though prosecutors have shelved the case. Almeida Rodrigues, head of the Judicial Police, said his detectives will chase up all leads until the 15-month mystery is solved.

No end in sight.

He said: “A case only stops being investigated if there is a successful criminal trial.”

IRISH INDEPENDENT: “Only McCanns know full pain of never-ending story - If you find the ambiguity hard to live with, imagine the trauma the McCanns have to endure, writes Eilis O’Hanlon”

Let’s empathise. Says O’Hanlon:

It’s difficult to know where the story can go from here.

But you’ve got a column to fill. Dig deep.

But it still feels as if an ending of sorts has been reached. The disappearance of Madeleine has become a part of history. That’s probably a shocking indictment of the shortness of our collective memory — but, reprehensible or not, it’s true.

It’s living history. Read about it today’s Irish Indy.

The internet obsessives will keep the flame burning a little longer, having determined long ago not to let a little thing like the facts stop them witch-hunting Kate and Gerry; but even they will give up eventually.

Read O’Hanlon’s column online.

And that’s why there’s still such an unwillingness among many to accept that the McCanns’ names really have been conclusively cleared. Take the Portuguese statement at face value, rather than deciphering it for clues that Madeleine’s parents really were guilty of her murder and are only being exonerated because they have powerful friends who put pressure on the authorities in Praia da Luz, and what it means is that there still isn’t closure and there’s precious little prospect of there ever being so. It means living with ambiguity.

Well, no. The McCanns are no longer suspects because there is no evidence to say otherwise. But hasn’t it all ended, O’Hanlon?
Ik vind trouwens wel dat Murat wel een punt heeft, hij is door de tapasclan best wel naar behandeld om maar een een understatement te gebruiken.
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Op zondag 27 juli 2008 12:29 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Goedemorgen.
Misschien wel, maar dat zijn imho bijzaken, haantjesgedrag en vingertje wijzen, wat me veel meer opvalt is dat de pers ook niet meer onverdeeld achter de McCanns staat, net wat jij zegt in je laatste post.

Hier staat:
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Ik vind trouwens wel dat Murat wel een punt heeft, hij is door de tapasclan best wel naar behandeld om maar een een understatement te gebruiken.
Hooooooi Kahaarin. In zoverre heb je gelijk dat het bijzaken zijn qua mogelijke rel tusen de UK en Portugal maar het kan nadelig zijn wat betreft de 'oplossing' van de zaak Madeleine McCann. De peopletjes die wat te vertellen hebben in de UK zetten nu helemaal de hakken in het zand, reputaties moeten beschermd worden, ondanks dat de McCanns (IMO) zo schuldig als wat zijn, op z'n minst wat bewezen is.....neglect. Een zeer uitgekiende strategie van de McCanns & Co om direct mensen van belang in te schakelen, bijna medeplichtig gemaakt op die manier. Ik geloof, mocht er echt iets van belang worden gevonden, dat zelfs dán de zaak niet wordt geopend, IMO is er al veel, zeker gezien de onthullingen van nu, er was allang al een zaak, er zijn mensen voor minder voor het gerecht gesleept. Overigens is de Britse pers, tabloid e.a., nog steeds zeer pro-McCann. The Mirror heeft zowaar aan 'onderzoeksjournalistiek'gedaan, het aantal deuren tellen in Praia da Luz waar de cops hebben aangebeld, en de deuren in het stadje waar Shannon Matthews woonde en hoe snel ze werd gevonden, het artikel staat op de site van Charlotte, met commentaar. Ook Nigel heeft z'n zegje hierover, terecht! "It's sick really...

En verder gaat de Portugese krant nog steeds door met artikelen die wel hout snijden, Joana Morais, 27.07.2008, paper edition by astro, een flinke snipper:
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Kate managed the news and controlled the English - Correio da Manhã

Maddie casePress was manipulated in exchange for photo shoots

The McCann couple took four hours to outline their strategy, went out for walks on request from the British photographers and escaped the Portuguese


Kate and Gerry McCann controlled the British media in the news coverage of their daughter’s disappearance. In order to avoid criticism from the English press, Maddie’s parents offered photo shoots, some of them during their usual morning walks in the Algarve – which were apparently routine, but previously arranged, as Kate’s notes reveal.

“The British journalists were annoyed because they found out too late that I had been in the United Kingdom. It ended up with Justine receiving loads of phone calls and arranging for a photo shoot on the way to the church, to pacify them”, Kate writes on the 5th of July, revealing a tactic that was adopted in the first days after the 3-year-old girl disappeared.

"Dress up and go for a walk. It had been requested by photographers and agreed that for sentimental reasons it would be good”. This walk happened on the 7th of June, three days after Kate registered that she had been “annoyed” about the presence of Portuguese journalists outside the apartment. Before that, on the 19th of May, the photo shoot for the English newspaper ‘Sunday Mirror’ was previously arranged: “Us spending time with the twins for the Sunday papers”.

In the same notes, Kate expresses distress about the Portuguese and the German journalists. On the 11th of June, in Morocco, after Kate made a positive evaluation of the trip because there were so many photographers present, the doctor remembers “noticing” Portuguese journalists. “We didn’t want to give them a story”, decided the McCanns, who classify the questions from the Portuguese as “sleazy and unexpected”, even after preparation meetings that last “four hours”: “I was very angry at a journalist today. I told her not to do so much detective work.”

Concerning the editor of the ‘Sun’ newspaper, on the 11th of July Kate was assured that there would be no “adverse publicity”: “She was really nice. Perfect solution”, Maddie’s mother noted.

Clarence replaced Justine when the tension rose

Clarence Mitchell was the first one to offer his face for the McCanns. He met Gerry on an occasion when the latter was returning from England, at the end of May 2007, on a time when he was part of the Consular Assistance Group, representing the Foreign Department. He took over the couple’s defense on the 22nd of May, but returned to England in the mid-summer, when he was replaced by Justine McGuinness, who directed the campaign to search for Madeleine from the 22nd of June onwards.

The tensions between the McCanns and Justine were never evident. But the fact that she abandoned the couple’s defense immediately after they were made arguidos and returned to England, remains unexplained. Now, it becomes clear that the tension came from before. Justine and Gerry had already discussed the honoraries. The advisor wanted to receive overtime and demanded a payment that was above was had initially been agreed.

On the 28th of July, the tension between the family and the spokeswoman was obvious. Kate wrote in her notes that she [Justine] did not have good “interpersonal aptitudes” and that she could even be very “unpleasant”. Kate remembered that there had been an argument between Justine and a relative and that Gerry had tried to calm them down. “It all ended well”, Kate McCann concluded, but still seriously doubted the advisor’s character.

Journalists far away from the house

The McCanns’ first days in England were subject to intense media attention. They allowed to be photographed with their children again, after they had agreed exclusives with televisions and newspapers to cover the return.

Days later, Clarence Mitchell opted for another strategy. He agreed with the English journalists that those would never persecute the McCanns again. In exchange, the couple’s spokesman would supply fortuitous meetings, and in case the journalists would fail their compromise, he would exclude them from his contact list.

Everyone accepted. When in March CM [Correio da Manhã] tried to speak to the McCanns without going through Clarence Mitchell, we were intercepted by the police. The couple demanded for the Portuguese journalists to be forbidden from getting close to their house, and their neighbours were advised not to speak.

Notes

Newspapers Gerry is brilliant – “Gerry was brilliant again”, Kate wrote in one of her usual accounts after the meetings with journalists, during which it was her husband who did the talking.

Maddie 14 months ago – Madeleine McCann disappeared 14 months ago from the apartment where she was on holidays with her parents, in the Algarve, on the evening of the 3rd of May 2007.

Investigation Case archived – The investigation started by focusing on the abduction theory and then on the possibility of an accidental death followed by the concealment of the cadaver. The process ended up archived.

Tomorrow: How Kate McCann lived the first day without Maddie
Kan niet wachten, dit is ook de enige manier, de andere kant te laten zien. Het op fora en Blogs posten van dit nieuws, iets wat niet meer voor lurkers is te lezen zoals op het 3arguidoforum, die hebben de handdoek in de ring gegooid, een schande. Hét echte nieuws/achtergronden gaan zo verloren met het verschuilen achter een registratie. Ook Paulo Reis meldt dit ergerlijke nieuws: Forums under attack, blogs will be next.

En dan plaats ik toch maar een stuk van John Hirst, ondanks dat ik hem een rare druif vind:
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McCanns: Internet not scared to ask the questions the Mainstream Media fails to ask
The Irish Independent today has a piece on the McCann case, Only McCanns know full pain of never-ending story. In a previous piece I accepted that the McCanns suffered pain. However, I concluded that it was self inflicted and that the McCanns could end it by confessing their sins. This would put an end to the never-ending story. The writer Eilis O’Hanlon wants us to imagine the trauma the McCanns have to endure. Why? What about the trauma suffered by Madeleine? Why does the Mainstream Media insist on making the McCanns out to be victims? There are only two victims in this case, Madeleine and justice.

Eilis O’Hanlon writes: “It’s difficult to know where the story can go from here”. This is fair enough. However, there is a big question mark over the journalist’s next observation.

“The internet obsessives will keep the flame burning a little longer, having determined long ago not to let a little thing like the facts stop them witch-hunting Kate and Gerry; but even they will give up eventually”.

This is a bit rich coming from the Mainstream Media which did not let the facts that there was no abduction stop them printing this inaccuracy. And, what about those on the internet pursuing the fact that the McCanns lied about the fake break in? Why didn’t the Mainstream Media pick up on this element of the story? And, when the McCanns stated that they answered all the police questions, and the internet pointed out that they had not answered 40 questions put to them by the PJ, why was the Mainstream Media silent on this issue?

You would think that the Mainstream Media would be saying to itself, why are the McCanns so intent on silencing criticism? That is the story they should be following. Because, behind the McCanns controlling of the Mainstream Media is their secret they wish to hide.
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[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 27-07-2008 21:56:31 (Oh, naam fout geschreven...grrrr) ]
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Mogguh all. En wat hebben de Portugezen vandaag te melden. op de site van Joana Morias:
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Policeman irritates Kate for not offering coffee - Correio da Manhã

Kate’s notebooks
Madeleine’s mother did not like to be questioned

Reports of the first day without Maddie tell of discomfort when faced with the investigators who searched for her daughter


Kate McCann did not like the Polícia Judiciária. On the first day without Maddie, a few hours after she had seen her daughter for the last time, in the apartment that they all occupied in Praia da Luz, the child’s mother didn’t hide the discomfort in face of the investigators.

In her writings, which were apprehended months later by the same PJ, Kate complained about the treatment that she had been given during her first questioning: “Nobody offered us a drink or food. All the policemen were informally dressed and smoking. No sympathy was shown. […] The police officer who drove us to the PJ was asking me questions and then he typed them down. Slow”, says Kate, who also didn’t like the fact that she had to return to the Judiciária a short while later.

“We got a phone call from the PJ saying that we had to return. We turned around and returned at 200 kilometres per hour. Scary once again”, Kate continues, sparing the rest of the police forces no criticism. “The GNR appeared without being certain of their role – they seemed to be doing nothing”, she underlined.

Kate equally didn’t like to speak to Yvone, the English social security employee who worked at the department of child protection and who later told the Leicester police that she had found the behaviour of the parents and of one of the friends to be strange. “Also Yvone. A bit boring, worrying, because I didn’t know who it was”, Kate reported.

In the same writings, and still remembering the 4th of May (the notes started to be written at a later date, allegedly upon medical advice), Kate McCann recollects that the British ambassador offered her help. And that there were also technicians from the consulate on location, and Madeleine’s mother remembered a conversation with Robert Murat, during which he told her about his daughter and her similarities with Maddie.

British woman wanted to help the couple

Yvone was on holidays in the Algarve when she heard that Maddie had disappeared. The technician, who is an expert in cases of endangered children, rushed to offer her help, but later guaranteed to the police that she had not been well accepted. Yvone also said that David Payne, one of the friends, had advised the McCanns not to speak to her. She found the parents’ behaviour strange.

Kate admits her daughter’s death

Despite having only admitted it publicly in August, Kate assumed the possibility that her daughter was dead on the day after the disappearance. “Is she dead?” she questions herself in her notebooks, in a register of the 4th of May, after she was heard at the PJ in Portimão. The hypothesis that her daughter’s disappearance is connected with paedophilia also haunted her: “Thinking about paedophiles makes me want to pull the skin off.”

Police in force in the Algarve

During the first days after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the Polícia Judiciária only admitted the theory of abduction of the little girl in public, and mobilized extraordinary means into the Algarve. The directory of Faro, which is directed by Guilhermino Encarnação, was joined by brigades from Lisbon and elements of the Central Directory of Banditism Combat (DCCB), including its director, Luís Neves.

With the investigations centered on the abduction theory and with extraordinary means mobilized, alerts were sent to the borders, to the airports and to the Spanish authorities.

The PJ even asked for the population’s cooperation to find Maddie, and one day later, Guilhermino Encarnação guaranteed that he already had a photofit of the child’s [abductor], which would not be publicized. Praia da Luz and its surroundings were patrolled by GNR men, car stop operations were set up on the roads that exit the Algarve, and the garbage collection was also followed.

A total of approximately one hundred men from the Polícia Judiciária were moved into the Algarve as early as in the first few hours after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, which happened on the evening of the 3rd of May.

Tomorrow: The McCanns’ relationship with the suspects source: Correio da Manhã, 28.07.2008 – paper edition by astro
En ik lees heel zorgvuldig, want wát schrijft Kate veel later pas, op verzoek, in haar dagboek? Juist ja, vragender wijs vraagt Kate zich af of Madeleine dood is in connectie tot pedo's...Verder in het uiteindelijke rapport van de PJ over die sociaal werkster aldaar,Yvonne Martin:
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Parents refused technical help

Works with endangered children and approached the McCanns in the Algarve. Found the behaviour strange

Yvone, who earned credentials from the English government to work in situations that involve endangered children, was in the Algarve when Maddie disappeared but the McCanns refused her help. The specialist told the PJ, during two depositions that were made one month apart from each other, that she approached the couple after the first few hours and that the behaviour from both left her with suspicions about their involvement in the disappearance.

The behaviour of David Payne, who was accused by a couple of doctors that spent holidays with him in 2005, of having attitudes that indiciated paedophile practices, also left Yvone intrigued. The McCanns’ friend had called them aside and advised them not to speak to the technician.

Yvone found another detail strange. David’s face was not unfamiliar to her, and the technician believes he might have been inquired before, within some case of sexual abuse. She tried to remember when but failed to locate moment and the circumstances under which she had met him.

The days went by and Yvone continued to think about the issue. She then sent a letter to the English police, where she pointed out the details that she had perceived. Namely, that the bedroom window had not been forced open, that it was not normal for a couple of doctors to leave their children alone and that Kate had reacted in an aggressive manner when she had approached her. She also alerted to the official statistics, that point towards the majority of these cases to involve a cover-up from the families."
Amaral denkt overigens aan een tweede boek. O ja, de site van de McCanns schijnt gehackt te zijn, zie de site van Nigel: Official FindMadeleine.com website hacked, 28 July 2008

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  maandag 28 juli 2008 @ 13:30:16 #68
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Hey Suko!

Het is toch wat, de McCAnns hebben het al zo te verduren gehad, je kunt ook niet eens in alle rust de shady verdwijning van je kind plotten zonder dat er experts op dat gebied hun hulp aanbieden, ook al geen koffie en ze rijden als gekken, tssk tssk tssk, en nu ook nog hun site gehackt, sue the bastards!

Rondje Anorak, volgens mij wordt de al eerder opgemerkte trend van een verandering in de pers tov de McCanns doorgezet, dit is niet echt positief voor de Tapasclan.
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Madeleine McCann: The Tabloid Dog Pack, Kate McCann’s Diary And Shannon Matthews

MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann, Gerry McCann and Robert Murat

PRESS GAZETTE: “Furious lawyer attacks tabloids’ ‘pack-dog’ mentality over stories”

Read all about it in the Star, Sun, Mirror etc.

Louis Charalambous represented Robert Murat in his libel action against eleven tabloid newspapers. Two other claimants in the same case, Sergey Malinka and Michaela Walczuch, were awarded apologies and a “substantial six-figure settlement”.

Charalambous tells the Press Gazette:

“Having to capitulate, apologise and pay up is not the end of it. The trust in those titles ebbs away among their combined readership of 15 million. In particular, readers of The Sun, Mirror, Express and Star were told lie after lie about my clients. It brings into question how much more of their paper’s news coverage they can rely on…

“There was a pack-dog mentality here and my clients and their families were the prey. The children of Robert and Michaela, little girls, one not much older than Madeleine, were hounded and had to go in and out of their homes with coats over their heads.

“I’d like to invite the editors of the worst of these titles to have tea and cake with them and explain why they let their journalists and photographers harass them. They are now recovering but the effects are long-lasting.”


Tea with lawyers? Take care. Bring a tape recorder and a copy of the invitation. Leave wallet at home. But what about the story, the single-thread story? What about our Maddy?

“Journalistically this was a story without legs: child goes missing, no idea of her fate and foreign coppers not leaking to their trusted hacks in the time-honoured way. Reporters then developed lines of the story and ‘creatively’ adopted the rubbish coming out of the Portuguese tabloid press.”

Case closed. What what about Murat?

Max Clifford, no longer representing Murat, says:

“If you think that the McCanns got £500,000 from one newspaper group, he went after 11 newspapers – and they were far more vicious to him than they were to the McCanns.”

Maybe Murat wasn’t after the money, just closure? Maybe the papers got of lightly?

“If you want people to believe you are innocent you can forget about it. He and his family are going to have to live with this for the rest of their lives.”

So says a professional PR not in the least bit bitter about being dropped by Murat.

THE SUN: “Kate’s Maddie diaries leaked”

EXCERPTS from Kate McCann’s diary covering the first agonising weeks after daughter Maddie vanished have emerged.

Did you see them? In case you didn’t, here they are:

They show that the desperate mum left messages asking PM Gordon Brown to “increase political pressure” to aid the search. After he phoned 40-year-old Kate and husband Gerry, she noted that Mr Brown was “nice and supportive” — but that she “felt a bit emotional after”.

DAILY MIRROR: “Kate and Gerry McCann: Portuguese cops’ hunt for Maddie ‘pathetic’”

Portuguese police knocked on just 443 doors in the failed hunt for missing Madeleine McCann.

That a lot?

There are 7,000 homes in Praia da Luz…

No door unknocked…

In stark contrast, British police probing the disappearance of Shannon Matthews earlier this year knocked on 5,000 doors and searched 2,000 houses. Nine-year-old Shannon was found in 24 days, whereas Portuguese police have stopped looking for Madeleine after 14 months.

But the police door knocking wasn’t what found Shannon Matthews. The rozzers responded to a tip off from a neighbour of one Paul Donovan.

Also, Shannon Matthews’ mother, Karen Matthews, is under arrest for her alleged part in her daughters’ disappearance. Kate McCann is innocent. So what do the two matters have in common? Or is this Tabloid Bingo?

A friend of the McCanns said: “The 443 doors would barely cover 500 yards from the apartment where Madeleine was taken. That is shocking and unacceptable.”

Is it?
http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/186558.html
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Op maandag 28 juli 2008 13:30 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Hey Suko!

Het is toch wat, de McCAnns hebben het al zo te verduren gehad, je kunt ook niet eens in alle rust de shady verdwijning van je kind plotten zonder dat er experts op dat gebied hun hulp aanbieden, ook al geen koffie en ze rijden als gekken, tssk tssk tssk, en nu ook nog hun site gehackt, sue the bastards!
Whahahahaaaa...Kahaarin! Yeah right! Maar toch zie ik de Britse pers (behalve dan idd de Press Gazette) niet zo anti-McCann worden, het zijn alleen wat commentaren die wat scherp zijn maar voor de rest blijft 't allemaal bagger. Maar over het 'lijden' van Kate gesproken...Naast Spudgun (over de Britse pers) en Charlotte (over o.a. het fonds) is ook Cláudia van het hout gesneden waar ik van hou...ik plaats haar commentaar graag (spread the word), ingegeven door de reactie van Kate McCann over o.a. dat ze ff geen drinken en eten kreeg op het politiebureau en andere ongemakkelijkheden, wat Madeleine dan wel niet moet ondergaan sinds de McCanns nog steeds denken dat ze nog leeft, she does'nt bloody care! En dan wel met kerst (in de HH, I know) in de camera tegen Madeleine zeggen: "be brave sweetheart."
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I'm sorry, Kate. Forgive us all. So, according to today's article in Correio da Manhã:

- Kate did not like Portuguese Polícia Judiciária: well, Kate, this may come as a shock to you but guess what, it seems at least 10 million Portuguese people aren't exactly in love with you either.

- Kate was annoyed that during questioning no food or drink was offered. Well, Kate, don't you think that you got yourselves in enough trouble because of food and drink? Let's not forget that it was because of some food and drinks that you and your husband decided to leave your 3 under four year old children, alone in an holiday apartment in a foreign country.

- Kate was annoyed because they had to turn around and go back to Policía Judiciária at high speed. Well, Kate, I, a Portuguese citizen, ask you for forgiveness. I'm sorry our Polícia Judiciária was in a hurry to find your missing daughter, once again, the missing daughter who was left by you and your husbad to babysit your 2 year old twins. From the bottom of my heart, forgive us all for the hurry.

- The GNR appeared without being certain of their role. You mean, Kate, like you and your husband who definately aren't certain of your roles as mother and father?

- Yvonne, I'm waiting for you to ask for forgiveness to Kate for annoying her with that irritating habit of yours to try and help people in need. Shame on you, woman.

- I'm glad the Ambassador found the time to stop by, offer you help and support and in a way protect you from all those incompetent, stupid Portuguese people whose mission was to find your daughter and, of course, annoy you.

- You know, Kate, the idea of your daughter being taken by paedophiles makes me want to pull my skin off too. That is why I never understood why you and your husband always stated so categorically that Madeleine will be found alive and unharmed.

- Kate, has it crossed your mind to thank the hundreds if not thousands of people who looked for your daughter, including the PJ police officers who cancelled their holidays to find Madeleine, who risked their lives driving at a high speed because they wanted to find your daughter and who were portrayed in a disgusting manner in your more than biased press? I didn't think so.


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  dinsdag 29 juli 2008 @ 12:12:23 #70
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Op maandag 28 juli 2008 19:54 schreef Suko het volgende:

Whahahahaaaa...Kahaarin! Yeah right! Maar toch zie ik de Britse pers (behalve dan idd de Press Gazette) niet zo anti-McCann worden, het zijn alleen wat commentaren die wat scherp zijn maar voor de rest blijft 't allemaal bagger. Maar over het 'lijden' van Kate gesproken...Naast Spudgun (over de Britse pers) en Charlotte (over o.a. het fonds) is ook Cláudia van het hout gesneden waar ik van hou...ik plaats haar commentaar graag (spread the word), ingegeven door de reactie van Kate McCann over o.a. dat ze ff geen drinken en eten kreeg op het politiebureau en andere ongemakkelijkheden, wat Madeleine dan wel niet moet ondergaan sinds de McCanns nog steeds denken dat ze nog leeft, she does'nt bloody care! En dan wel met kerst (in de HH, I know) in de camera tegen Madeleine zeggen: "be brave sweetheart."


Blijf maar lekker in herhaling vallen, doe ik soms ook, sommige dingen kunnen imho niet vaak genoeg gezegd worden.
Volgens de kranten moeten de bloggers nu ook gaan uitkijken, ik snap niet hoe ze de meningen en analyses van mensen aan banden kunnen leggen, dat is toch vrijheid van meningsuiting? Zo lang ze de McCanns niet uitsschelden of beschuldigen dan kan er volgens mij weinig aan gedaan worden, mocht blijken dat dit wel gaat gebeuren dan vraag ik dat wel eens een keertje in WGR oid.

Rondje Anorak:
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Madeleine McCann: Colette Douglas Home Spreads The Fear And Inside Irvine Welsh
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann, Gerry McCann

THE HERALD: “Do you want to see every parent in the dock?”

It’s Colette Douglas Home, professional Maddie opinion giver. And to answer her question: yes. Fingerprint them, photograph them and question them for 42 days. Only the guilty have anything to fear.

Fear:

You’ve got to admit, they shouldn’t have left the children unattended and gone out to dinner.” It was a colleague talking to me about Kate and Gerry McCann. He went on: “We go on holiday with a big group of friends but we’d never do that. We put the wee ones to bed and eat downstairs.”

“And do you check on them every half hour?”

“Yes. Well, we send the teenagers to do the checking.”

Fear:

I wonder if he realises how fortunate he has been. If something terrible had happened, can you imagine the headlines? They would probably say something like: “Teenagers checked on missing toddler while parents partied.”

Yeah, who cares that the children have been eaten by alligators, fallen down the plughole or hit the minibar and suffocated in their own vomit – it’s the media’s reaction to it that matters most.

And what of the McCanns, Colette’s favourite subject:

I imagined the fact that Kate and Gerry McCann are doctors would stand them in some regard, since they spend their lives trying to help others. I was wrong. I thought the clear evidence from family photographs that Madeleine was a happy, well-cared-for child would demonstrate that leaving her unsupervised was an aberration, not the norm. But I didn’t allow for jealousy and resentment.

Maybe people are just bored of the McCanns? But Colette cannot face that possibility:

So let’s think about that call for prosecution. If the McCanns are to stand in the dock, who should stand beside them? We can start with those who were on the same holiday and who didn’t hire a babysitter. Then what about all the other couples who have stayed at that or any family-friendly holiday village where they felt safe enough to leave the children unattended while they ate? What about people who eat in the garden on hot summer evenings while their children sleep in the house? What about parents who sleep indoors, maybe one night a year, while their kids sleep in a tent? If we apply these standards, the courts would be jam-packed.

What about them? The McCanns are not being prosecuted child neglect, child abandonment, nor for any other crime.

THE SCOTSMAN: “Crime and Punishment - Irvine Welsh”

Dave Robinson is in Saughton jail. For crimes againt journalism. Ho-ho:

I’M WALKING behind the Famous Author. He’s wearing trainers, a T-shirt, an expensive-looking grey-green leather jacket and is carrying a plastic bag. As I follow him, I’m thinking that the way people walk tells you something about them. The Famous Author walks like a fighter: self-confident, disciplined, head up. He doesn’t walk like a 50-year-old, though in a couple of months he will be one.

How close behind Welsh is Robinson? Close enough to smell him?

Welsh has written a book called Crime, HMP Edinburgh. But he nearly didn’t:

He’s talked to child-abuse survivors’ groups and handles the subject with uncommon sensitivity – so much so, in fact, that he gave up writing the book altogether when the Madeleine McCann story first broke. “Even approaching the subject tangentially seemed frivolous and stupid.”

His is work of fiction, the McCann case is one of fact. What has one to do with the other? The McCann case is a touchstone for a writer’s book, a stepping stone on the PR drive.
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Het gore aan dergelijke zaken is dat veel 'publiek geheim' is. Er vinden veel kinder ontvoeringen en verkrachtingen plaats met medeweten van de halve politiekorpsen in bepaalde steden, inclusief kennissen uit de omgeving van de ouders.

Niemand durft echt toe te geven dat hij/zij iets weet, vaak uit angst voor represailles.
Veel mensen zijn op de één of andere wijze in aanraking gekomen met bepaalde sektes zoals Abraxas of Abraxax, die veelvuldig jonge vrouwen verkrachten evenals kleine meisjes. Het zijn satanische sekten, en vooral metal-figuren zijn er van op de hoogte of erbij betrokken.

Mensen die te maken krijgen met slachtoffers en belangen hebben in de muziek, metal of kunstwereld of in het alternatieve circuit zien slachtoffers vaak als watjes waar ze geen respect voor tonen. Alcohol en drugs zijn belangrijker en zonder deze geen pijler binnen de satanskerk.

Waarschijnlijk is 20 of 30 % van de mensen op de hoogte van dergelijke kindermoorden. Ze kennen mensen die dat doen of chanteren er iemand mee.
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Op dinsdag 29 juli 2008 12:12 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Blijf maar lekker in herhaling vallen, doe ik soms ook, sommige dingen kunnen imho niet vaak genoeg gezegd worden.
Volgens de kranten moeten de bloggers nu ook gaan uitkijken, ik snap niet hoe ze de meningen en analyses van mensen aan banden kunnen leggen, dat is toch vrijheid van meningsuiting? Zo lang ze de McCanns niet uitsschelden of beschuldigen dan kan er volgens mij weinig aan gedaan worden, mocht blijken dat dit wel gaat gebeuren dan vraag ik dat wel eens een keertje in WGR oid.

Rondje Anorak:
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http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/186649.html
Hooooi Kahaarin, wat is in hemelsnaam WGR... En wat betreft vrijheid van meningsuiting is er idd veel aan de hand, het vervelende is alleen of het prikjes van bangmaken zijn van het team McCann, of is het echt ernst en dan kan het voor een aantal bloggers, fora, posters best lasitg worden. In sept 2007 is dat al in gang gezet: UK government agency, blogs and Clarence Mitchell en is erg bruikbaar als het om Madeleine gaat....En verder is wel duidelijk dat het inmiddels achter verplichte registratie zich verschuilende 3arguidoforum ernstig is gewaarschuwd: Forums under attack, blogs will be next (II). Een niet zo'n fijn verhaal...uitgezocht door Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis. (Waarom al die mankracht, energie, macht en geld inzetten om mensen de mond te snoeren...? Waarom al die middelen niet ingezet om Madeleine te zoeken, ze leeft tocn nog volgens hen, dus...?)

>>> Dubbelklik op onderstaande afbeelding voor details...<<<



Ophra Winfrey vroeg zich af waarom Hostgator het 3arguidoforum host....? WTF!

Anyway, weer een aantal artikelen op de stie van Joana Morais: Kate tried everything to accuse Robert Murat- Correio da Manhã en Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis, The reasons why Murat was named 'arguido'.

En tot slot een vergelijking van een aantal feiten qua eindrapport van de PJ en Amaral's boek, gepost door Joana Morais, door Astro:
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PJ report vs. Amaral's book - a comparison in three parts

Part I

Maddie: find the differences between the PJ’s report and the book

The text by Gonçalo Amaral reports on various details from the investigation which are not contained in the report from the Polícia Judiciária. But the latter is only a summary of the process

The report from the Polícia Judiciária that led to the archiving of the process on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and the book by Gonçalo Amaral: “Maddie: The truth of the lie” have differences, but they also coincide. ‘PortugalDiário’ offers you information about some of the items in both documents.

Time of the facts:

PJ’s report: The alert about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the moment when Kate McCann announces that Maddie was abducted, occurred, according to the data that was collected by the PJ, between 10.00 and 10.10 p.m. on the evening of the 3rd of May. But the same report refers that “the facts”, according to witness statements, took place between 9.05 and 10.00 p.m.

Book: In the book from the former inspector of the Polícia Judiciária, who coordinated the investigation during six months, it is referred that: “The discussion within the investigation team, including the English colleagues, was objective and allowed for an important conclusion: the alarm about the disappearance could not have been given at 10 p.m. It happened before that time”. According to Amaral, for the investigation, the time of the facts is located “between 9.30 and 10.00 p.m., based on the testimonies given by employees of the “Tapas” restaurant.

The window

PJ’s report: The report from the Polícia Judiciária refers that “only” fingerprints from Madeleine’s mother were detected on the bedroom window through which, allegedly, the minor disappeared. The document indicates that “dactylar residues” were detected on the window frame.

Book: In the book by the former PJ [agent], the issue of the window and the depositions concerning it, appears as central. According to the book, “on the window, there were no signs of forcing or of gloves, and it had been cleaned the day before, by the employee that had cleaned the apartment. The only fingerprints that were found on it belong to Kate Healy. The sense and the position of the fingers that were imprinted on the window indicate a movement of opening it to the left”.

Book: For Gonçalo Amaral, the contradictions within the group of friends, concerning this point, always reveal that someone is lying: “As someone would end up saying, one part of the solution of this investigation resides on that window. The truth about the window will always deny someone from the group”.

PJ’s report: It should be noted that the doubts about the window are shared with the Polícia Judiciária. The report mentions that the reconstitution of the facts would allow to “clarify extremely important details, among other things”: “The situation concerning the window of the bedroom where Madeleine slept, with the twins, which was open, according to Kate. It became necessary to clarify whether there was a draft, because the movement of curtains and pressure under the bedroom door are mentioned, which would eventually be visible through a reconstitution”.

Part II

Maddie and the Smith family

During the investigation into the Maddie case, thousands of information about sightings of the child on diverse points of the world appeared. Several leads concerning suspicious individuals that were seen in the resort’s surroundings before and on the day of the disappearance were also followed. But only two reports about the evening of the facts reached the police: they both state that a man carrying a child was seen on that evening.

PJ’s report: One of those reports is by Jane Tanner and has been widely reported. The other one, less media-exposed, comes from the Smith family. In the PJ’s report it is said: “The testimony from Mr Smith reporting the sighting of an individual carrying a child, on one of the streets that access the beach, appeared. It was said that the child could be Madeleine McCann, although it was never peremptorily stated. Some time later, this witness alleged that by the way [the manner in which he held one of the twins], the individual that carried the child could be Gerald McCann, and this was concluded when he saw him walk down the stairs from an airplane. But it was established that at the time that was mentioned, Gerald was sitting at the table, in the Tapas restaurant”. The document does not refer the source of that information, whether it came from the group of friends, or from the employees at the “Tapas”.

Book: According to Gonçalo Amaral, this family came to Portugal, on the 26th of May, in a secret operation, that brought the patriarch and two of his adult children into the PJ in Portimão. They all confirmed that they saw a man carrying a child and the exact spot where they met, at around 10 p.m. The patriarch said it was not Murat, because he knew him, and failed to identify anyone in particular. A situation that changes once the McCanns arrive in England.

Book: “In late September, we find out about that recognition from the Smith family” (…) “We made a decision, to start a logistics operation in order to bring the family witnesses to Portugal again”. (…) “But the Smiths did not come. The Portuguese police, after I leave, changes its mind and opts to request their inquiry through the use of an international cooperation mechanism”. It should be noted that Amaral makes no reference to what had been established by the PJ, that is, that at that time, Maddie’s father was at the “Tapas” restaurant.

Forensics reports

PJ’s report: Concerning the analyses that were sent to England, with residues that were detected by the dogs, in the apartment and in the rented vehicle, the PJ’s report states that the “final results did not corroborate the canine markings, that is, cellular material was collected that failed to be identified as belonging to someone specific, and it was not even possible to establish the quality of that material”, namely “whether it could be blood or any other type of bodily fluid”.

PJ’s report: Nevertheless, the report recognizes that “in a first scientific approach, the possibility of a compatibility between Madeleine’s DNA profile and some of the residues that were collected (among which those that existed in the Renault Scenic vehicle that was rented by the McCanns, were in great quantity), was apparent”.

Book: The PJ’s report does not say anything else about the tests. Gonçalo Amaral questions the results from the analyses, but in the end recognizes that they are not evidence, but merely indicia: “The [female] dog signaled the presence of human blood in places where the [male] dog marked cadaver odour (…) Those bodily fluids, according to the FSS [English lab], contained components from Madeleine’s DNA profile”. “At that moment, those results do not constitute material evidence, but mere indicia, which should be added to the indicia that had already been established”.

Book: Less clear would be the analyses on the hair that was found in the car boot. The tests that were performed on those did not arrive at the same time as the rest. Until the date when Amaral left, there were no results. The hair samples were requested from the lab, but it “didn’t want to let go” of the samples.

Part III

What is not in the PJ’s report

The book by Gonçalo Amaral reports on several details from the investigation which are not included in the final report from the Polícia Judiciária. This fact indicates that they were not deemed relevant for the decision on whether or not to archive the process. But the PJ’s report is only a summary of the whole process, where presumably the facts that are reported by the former coordinator of the investigation can be found, and probably others.

The facts that are described by Gonçalo Amaral that are not present in the report are:

Phone records, calls made and received, from the mobile phones that belong to Kate and Gerry on the evening of the disappearance were reportedly erased.

The information concerning the McCanns that was requested from the English authorities on the day of the disappearance, never arrived.

According to the PJ, the information concerning the debit and credit cards belonging to the couple was never supplied, either.

PJ’s report: loose ends

The PJ’s report concludes that the reconstitution of the facts would be “important”, but could not be carried out due to the refusal from some of the elements of the group. Therefore, the following remains to be clarified:

“The physical, real and effective, proximity between Jane Tanner, Gerald McCann and Jeremy Wilkins, at the moment when the former passed them, and which coincided with the sighting of the supposed suspect, carrying a child. It results, from our understanding, as unusual that neither Gerald McCann nor Jeremy Wilkins saw her, or the alleged abductor, despite the small dimensions of the space”.

“The establishing of a timeline and of the effective checking of the minors that were left alone inside the apartments, given the fact that, believing that said checking was as tight as the witnesses and the arguidos describe it, it would be, to say the least, very difficult that the conditions were reunited for the introduction of an abductor in the residence and the posterior exit of said individual, with the child, namely through a window with little space. It is added that the supposed abductor could only pass that window holding the minor in a different position (vertical) from the one that was visualized by witness Jane Tanner (horizontal)”.

“What happened during the time lapse between 5.30 p.m. and the time at which the disappearance is reported by Kate Healy (at around 10 p.m.)”.

‘PortugalDiário’ reminds you that the process concerning the disappearance of Maddie was archived and that Robert Murat Kate and Gerry McCann stopped being arguidos from the 21st of July onwards. Maddie’s parents have also made it known that they will sue the former PJ employee Gonçalo Amaral following the publication of the book “Maddie: Truth of the Lie”. source: PortugalDiário, 28.07.08
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Nou ja, niet zo verwonderlijk de vergelijking tussen Amaral's boek en het eindrapport van de PJ. Iets wat ik al eerder constateerde, er mist veel in het eindrapport, heeeeeeel veel. En dan moet ik weer denken aan dat stukje bewijs waar zelfs de media niet van weet, uit het BBC-transscript (tekst uit de docu van Panorama), verslaggever Richard Bilton zegt: "Our police sources say they have other evidence which the media knows nothing about, but much of what the police have said and have leaked only points to suspicion about the abduction theory." Dat zou best wel eens dat telefoonverkeer+tekstberichten kunnen zijn die om privacy redenen niet niet mochten worden meegenomen in het onderzoek, ook het originele dagboek van Kate McCann niet, zelfde redenen..."CARLOS ANJOS: Kate McCann's diary will be as important to the investigation as is all the small evidence that has been found throughout the whole course of investigation, not more, not less. By combining all of the evidence we will be able to reconstruct what happened that moment that evening." Het is echt niet te geloven dat belangrijk bewijs niet mag worden gebruikt, en uit het boek van Amaral: "Less clear would be the analyses on the hair that was found in the car boot. The tests that were performed on those did not arrive at the same time as the rest. Until the date when Amaral left, there were no results. The hair samples were requested from the lab, but it "didn't want to let go" of the samples."

Maar goed, wat tips voor bloggers, fora en poster van ene Zodiac op de site van Claudia, wat betreft die lasterdreiging van mannetje Mitchell:
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My defence will be:

When I go out I always leave my doors unlocked and sometimes the windows are also left open. I enjoy wining and dining with my friends in another friends back garden approx 100 mts from my house, in fact it is just like sitting in my own back garden I can see the top of the roof of my house from my friend Stu Pidder's garden therefore I believe it is within the bounds of responsible home safety especially as we take it in turn to check on each others homes every 30 mins or so. I am sure my Insurance Company would have no quibble with that when I need to make a claim if it were ever burgled. Every home owner does it! Although the chances of it being burgled in such circumstances are very rare hence the no need to lock up, imo.

Although there was one incident regarding a laptop in my home, I had gone to do my usual check and discovered my laptop had been moved, used and then replaced. I just knew as soon I entered the house that someone had been using it, the study door was half open, not the way I had left it, the small window to the rear was open, it was closed when I left. I looked at the desk and I could tell from the way the the mouse was sitting on the mat that it had been taken at some point in the evening and then replaced. I went back to Stu Pidder's and finished my wine and Tapas although this did kinda bother me I decided not to let it interfere with my dinner and my social life, my friends are important to me and it was the kind of night we were all into each other so why spoil it. However with the art of hindsight I think this has been happening over a long period of time, maybe 14-16 months. I decided to mention it to my mates cos it was starting to annoy me that someone could just go into my unlocked home and use my laptop, I mean you do not expect that where we live it is very safe, very quiet and I really did not think for a minute something like that would happen, if I did think that I would never have left the doors unlocked. Anyway, I was telling my friends my sad news when my closest mate in the whole world, Dolly Dimple said that when she was checking her home (a few months ago, FFS some friend!) she saw a guy walking past my house. She knew he was a local, he had bright orange hair, he was peally whally white, wore a kilt, sipped Whisky from a small flask, was humming 'Donald where's your troosers' and carried bag pipes under his right arm. She thought he was a bit odd because he had something under his left arm wrapped in a blanket with a mouse hanging out, she watched him walk up the street and he hid in a neighbours front garden. She said she walked up and peeped over the hedge to see what he was doing. He was sitting with what she now knows was my laptop, it had my name on it 'Amya Moron' but at the time she just thought someone shared the same name as me. She said he was sitting in the neighbours garden, she could see him clearly as the Streetlamp gave her a clear view, he was laughing like a hyena she could only see some of the words on the screen...3.. and... A...and...rows of pictures, then he was typing a word...Zodi....that was all she could see. She said she would definately be able to recognize him again as he has a distinctive walk, it looks like he is doing the highland fling, she would recognize him any where despite not being able to see his face. My witnesses for all the occassions that my laptop was used without my permission are:

Stu Pidder and his partner Ida Nyit.
Patty O'Furniture and her partner Pop Sickle.
Xavier Breath and his partner Sue Cherself.
Dolly Dimple and her partner Hyman Idiot.
And of course not forgetting my PR rep should I need one Boabie Puller.

En van Claudia zelf nog een quootje: "I tell you what, Mr Mitchell, what about telling the legal team, namely Mr Rogério Alves and Mr Pinto de Abreu to launch a huge worldwide legal action? You could then sue millions of Portuguese people, millions of British people and millions of other people around the world who listen to you and find you pathetic and dare to dislike or question your saint employers. I can already picture it in my mind. The trial could be held in the Sahara desert, because I think that would be big enough to take us all in." Don't you just love that women!

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  woensdag 30 juli 2008 @ 11:57:30 #74
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Goedemorgen!
Heerlijk dat gedoe, laten we vooral niet vergeten dat het echt allemaal om Maddy draait, mn voor de McCanns.
WGR is werk geldzaken en recht, de plek voor juridische vraagstukken.
Mooie blogs en verhalen in je post, ga ik nog eens rustig voor zitten.

@Den_Dead_Kennedys, we hebben ons hier ook al afgevraagd waarom niemand iets gehoord of gezien heeft, zeg nu zelf, een kind kan toch niet volledig van de aardbodem verdwijnen? Iemand moet iets weten, waarom er wordt gezwegen, beats me.
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Madeleine McCann: Cluedo, Kate Summerscale Wins And Head Shaving The Tesco’s Girl
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann, Gerry McCann

NEW ZEALAND HERALD: “Real murder mystery takes top prize”

What’s a work of fiction got to do with Madeleine McCann, the disappearance of a real child?

Almost 150 years later, the murder at Road Hill House looks set to regain a firm grip on the national imagination after a modern account of the Cluedo-style killing won the £30,000 ($78,000) Samuel Johnson prize.

The Suspicions of Mr Whicher: Or The Murder at Road Hill House, by Kate Summerscale, had been deemed as the most commercial book on the six-strong shortlist.

Cluedo? But the McCann case has no suspects, let alone a weapon?

Rosie Boycott, a former newspaper editor and chair of the prize’s judging panel, says the winning book had been a un-animous choice.

Rosie Boycott says:

“It was very much like the [Madeleine] McCann case is today, with the media crawling all over it. No one wanted to believe an upper-class family could commit a murder like this one, so everyone wanted to blame the servants.”

Shall we serve the papers now, or will the McCanns?

NORTH WALES CHRONICLE: “Supermarket chain quashes Bangor child abduction rumour”

Rumour?

A SUPERMARKET has quashed rumours causing concern among Bangor parents that a that a missing girl has been found in one of their toilets with her head shaved.

The urban myth is believed to have been started during the hunt for Madeleine McCann who went missing in May 2007.

What’s the rumour, so we know?

A concerned mum from Bangor heard the rumour whilst talking to a friend on Monday night.

“A friend of mine asked me if I’d heard about an incident in Tesco in Bangor that had occurred over the weekend,” she said. “She said apparently a lady had lost her eight year old daughter and had contacted the staff at Tesco but they had closed.

“They searched the store and found the little girl in the men’s toilets and a man had his hand over her mouth and a woman was cutting her hair.”

Cutting her hair with pair of left-handed gardening shears, right? And he was an Albanian? And she was singing Two Little Boys?

Yeah, we heard that too. Take care, kids…
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Over de verplichte registratie voor het 3arguidoforum+het moeten posten anders wordt men gebanned lijkt me deze reactie wel waarheid bevatten. Iemand schrijft o.a: "What’s the change in the circumstances of the Mc’s got to do with zero posters? It can’t be anything to do with libel. How can they libel if they write nothing! So why does it seem to me like some other hidden agenda underlying the insistence to post? Might I be wrong to suggest that it seems like that ‘wider agenda’ of scams, feeding libellous stuff to the media only to turn around and sue? Then there seems to be the concerns and even distress to some posters re the truth or otherwise re Nbrado, Debunker, Stevo, Blackwatch and now Coldwater and his thread. What or who is next? Could these repetitive shenanigans be scare tactics, Astro turfing, and entrapment of the sheeple? Are IP addresses and posts being monitored?"

Iets wat meerdere denken. Mensen pakken die proberen achter de waarheid te komen. Met de plotselinge overname en Site Admins en mods removed/banned doet je dat wel achter de oren krabben. Een aantal topics vond ik al heel vreemd/gewaagd, bv eentje gestart door de Site Admin waar het ging over de vermeende 'verkeerde kant' van hoog geplaatste politici waaronder de hoogste baas van de UK, de connectie met Jersey etc etc, dat ging heel ver en leidde al erg af van het eigenlijke doel (McCanns+Tapas 7 en what ever happend to Madeleine)...toen dacht ik al, dat gaat de vrijheid van het 3arguidoforum de kop kosten en toen ging het inderdaad vrij snel schuil achter de nu genomen maatregelen. Het lijkt verdacht veel op Trollen It's sucks!

Inmiddels ben ik er van overtuigd dat het alles te maken heeft met Editorial Intelligence waarvan het doel is: "Editorial Intelligence specialise in analysing and exploiting comment and opinion in both print and online media. In simple terms, Editorial Intelligence help other companies and individuals realise the full potential of public opinion and debate by assisting in the management of what is published in comment areas, forum areas, letters pages and message boards. They even have a word for it; they call it the 'Commentariat'." Meer hier: Good journalism coming from the Net

(er gaat al een tijdje het gerucht dat toen het topic 'The hunt for Maddie' werd gesloten op het Mirror-forum en vervolgens het 3arguidoforum werd opgericht, dat daar uiteindelijk Mirror-mensen achter zaten met het doel achter identiteiten te komen, te monitoren en het forum om zeep te helpen, het lijkt er op dat dat gaat lukken, maar zijn maar geruchten hoor....)
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Op woensdag 30 juli 2008 11:57 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Goedemorgen!
Heerlijk dat gedoe, laten we vooral niet vergeten dat het echt allemaal om Maddy draait, mn voor de McCanns.
WGR is werk geldzaken en recht, de plek voor juridische vraagstukken.
Mooie blogs en verhalen in je post, ga ik nog eens rustig voor zitten.

@Den_Dead_Kennedys, we hebben ons hier ook al afgevraagd waarom niemand iets gehoord of gezien heeft, zeg nu zelf, een kind kan toch niet volledig van de aardbodem verdwijnen? Iemand moet iets weten, waarom er wordt gezwegen, beats me.
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Hoi Kahaarin, ah...ik weet kennelijk nog lang niet alles van FOK qua topics/secties...thnx! Ja die Bloggers en posters qua commentaren, ik hou ervan.

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