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Ja, is grof, maar dat zijn er wel meer, als mens/ouder, als het ware...

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Interview met de Portugese ex-copper Amaral, gelezen op de site van Joana Morais:
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"I was removed because of the direction the investigation was heading"
The former PJ inspector believes he was removed because he didn't wish to abandon the homicide theory. He maintains that Maddie is dead and the only reason there isn't more evidence is because he wasn't allowed to continue to the end of the investigation.

Amaral: We were doing the last diligences related to a very important witness who was coming to Portugal.

Expresso: And the witness came to Portugal?

Amaral: As far as I know, the witness never came.

Expresso: But this was truly an important witness?

Amaral: Very important.

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Expresso: You believe Madeleine is dead?

Amaral: I believe it. That is my conviction.

Expresso: Do you believe that the parents are involved?

Amaral: erm...........

Expresso: Hiding a cadaver?

Amaral: erm....... I can't say anything about this during the secrecy of justice. We can only talk about this when the secrecy is lifted."

Translation by Debk

Note: Tomorrow Expresso will publish the full interview. The book is FINISHED. 200 pages. Ready for publishing "immediately" upon the secrecy being lifted. Also notice Mr. Gonçalo Amaral has a good sense of humour, his already grilling some sardines. Source: Expresso
Vermoedellijk betreft het de Ierse getuige Mr. Smit, die mogelijk toch nog wordt gehoord, eerder gebeurde dat niet omdat de PJ in de verhoor-verzoeken alleen de UK had genoemd en dus niet Ierland.

Uit een eerdere post: "Eerder over die Mr. Smith: hier en hier. Zou best eens kunnen dat Mr. Smith is bezocht door Metodo 3, iets wat Clarence Mitchell al in z'n hoofd had: "A spokesman for the McCanns said detectives from the Spanish agency hired to investigate the case are now hoping to speak to the Smiths. Retired Mr Smith, 58, does not wish to appear on camera in order to protect his family from media intrusion." Sky News Monday April 07, 2008 Missing Madeleine McCann: Irish Witness 'Clears' Murat Kan best zijn dat de fout niet alleen bij het verhoor-verzoek ligt maar dat Mr. Smith is 'silenced'...

Anderen denken aan die kelner die na een interview is ondergedoken. Zie eerdere post. Op het 3arguidogtorum wordt ook druk gespeculeerd wie die getuige zou kunnen zijn. Amaral houdt de boel lekker bezig. Morgen het hele interview in Expresso.

Misschien komt het nog maar ik zie vrijwel geen melding in de Britse pers wat betreft het DNA wat geen resultaat opleverde, zoals door de krant Correio da Manhã gisteren is gemeld en te lezen op het 3arguidoforum.. Merkwaardig, maar mogelijk komen die berichten alsnog...
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Maddie: Public Ministry looking at up to 5 years in jail 'Correio da Manhã' (bron > vertaling)
PJ open the way to charge the McCann couple 04 July 2008 - 02h33 (The full article will be available online later today)

"The schedule of abandonment that the 3 children were exposed to by the McCanns, on the night of the 3rd may 2007, in an apartment in Praia da Luz, is an undisputable fact in over 50 pages of the final report of the judiciary. The investigation was based on the theory of murder, that is yet to be proven, but the Public Ministry, even though it may have been focussed on this question is obligated to deal with the latent negligence of Maddie's parents."

En steeds meer, net als ik ook al opperde, vragen posters zich af of de files wel openbaar worden, voor het publiek dan, nu Madeleine Ward of Court, al gauw ná de vermising, is verklaard. De gedachte is meer dat er juist wordt gevraagd de documenten niet publiek te maken. Wij houden 7 juli goed in de gaten, als de McCanns verschijnen voor het gerechtshof in Londen, qua verzoek voor eerdere inzage in de documenten....zeggen ze. En dat er nu door Mitchell wordt gezegd dat deze hearing misschien niet doorgaat gezien de laatste ontwikkekingen lijkt op een vette smokescreen... Het zou mij niet verbazen als na maandag de mededeling komt dat de McCanns niet de files eerder mogen inzien, maw... ze zouden het eventueel voor elkaar hebbben gekregen dat de documenten niet (of deels) openbaar worden iov en ter bescherming van Ward of Court Madeleine, let's wait and see...

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  vrijdag 4 juli 2008 @ 13:50:07 #179
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McCanns hire new team of British detectives
By Nick Britten
Last Updated: 4:00PM BST 02/07/2008
Gerry and Kate McCann have hired a new team of British detectives after the Spanish firm they employed failed to find Madeleine.

EDDIE MULHOLLAND
Gerry and Kate McCann speaking at the Ocean Club Resort in Portugal the night after Madeleine disappeared

The couple have been paying Spain-based Metodo 3 £50,000 a month for nine months but they have not located Madeleine's whereabouts or found out what has happened to her.

Now it is understood they have been placed in an £8,000 retainer while a new team has been assembled in London, primarily in the hope that the police files into the investigation will be released, giving them new clues to follow up.

The McCanns are expected to have their arguido status lifted in the coming weeks. When it is, their lawyers will demand access to the paperwork.

The files, thought to run to several boxes, will be passed to a team of private detectives to pour through looking for fresh leads. They are believed to contain no theory about what may have happened to the four-year-old, but may well throw up new leads.

Details about the new team, and what they are being paid, are being kept under wraps.

A source close to the McCanns said today: "There is a new team working on it, based primarily in the UK although there are elements working abroad.

"They don't want to be identified for operational reasons. If we get access to any official documentation - either from Portugal or Britain - it will be examined by them.

"Any active leads it is felt the police have not followed up properly or left open-ended, they would move on."

Friends and neighbours of Gerry and Kate McCann this morning vowed to stand by the couple and called for the Portuguese police to “leave them alone”.

After news emerged that Portuguese police are closing their inquiry into Madeleine's death, residents in Rothley, Leics, accused the police of bungling the investigation and called for the couple's status as suspects to be lifted immediately.

Mr McCann, 39, and his 40-year-old wife have been told they will know their fate by the middle of August.

Technically the public prosecutor could still press ahead with a prosecution but in the light of such lack of evidence and the police shelving their investigation it is virtually inconceivable.
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)tish-detectives.html

Dit is al een ouder artikel, volgens mij al een keertje voorbijgekomen, wat mij hier opvalt is dat de McCanns zich aan het ingraven zijn, de PI's worden uit het voetlicht gehouden en CM spin druipt er van af, als ze geen arguido meer zijn dan gaan ze inzage eisen en natuurlijk mogen de familie en vrienden een duit in het zakje doen.
Maar wederom niets over Madeleine zelf, Metodo3 sucks blijkbaar nu en de Portugezen moeten maar snel de arguido status liften, oh ja, de arme ouders hebben het zwaar en moeten maar snel de dossiers inkijken.......

Dit sluit imho heel mooi aan bij de artikelen die jij aanhaalt Suko, goedemiddag trouwens , modder gooien en straatjes schoonvegen, dat is alles wat we nu zien.
Ik heb wel zin om heel hard te roepen: "HALLOOHOO, ER IS EEN KINDJE WEG!"
Als iedereen alle energie had gestopt in zoeken ipv over en weer met het vingertje te wijzen en de straatjes schoon te vegen dan had het er wellicht heel anders uitgezien nu......
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  vrijdag 4 juli 2008 @ 15:22:01 #180
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Oh, ik kwam dit tegen op Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_McCann


Mooie tijdslijn en vrij objectief.
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Op vrijdag 4 juli 2008 13:50 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)tish-detectives.html

Dit is al een ouder artikel, volgens mij al een keertje voorbijgekomen, wat mij hier opvalt is dat de McCanns zich aan het ingraven zijn, de PI's worden uit het voetlicht gehouden en CM spin druipt er van af, als ze geen arguido meer zijn dan gaan ze inzage eisen en natuurlijk mogen de familie en vrienden een duit in het zakje doen.
Maar wederom niets over Madeleine zelf, Metodo3 sucks blijkbaar nu en de Portugezen moeten maar snel de arguido status liften, oh ja, de arme ouders hebben het zwaar en moeten maar snel de dossiers inkijken.......

Dit sluit imho heel mooi aan bij de artikelen die jij aanhaalt Suko, goedemiddag trouwens , modder gooien en straatjes schoonvegen, dat is alles wat we nu zien.
Ik heb wel zin om heel hard te roepen: "HALLOOHOO, ER IS EEN KINDJE WEG!"
Als iedereen alle energie had gestopt in zoeken ipv over en weer met het vingertje te wijzen en de straatjes schoon te vegen dan had het er wellicht heel anders uitgezien nu......
Hoi Kahaarin. Ach ach, het is idd nooit om Madeleine gegaan. Ik geloof niet eens dat er nieuwe PI's zijn ingehuurd, misschein eentje of zo, als hulpje, voor Mitchell. Net gelezen, die hearing op 7 juli gaat inderdaad gewoon door zoals ik al dacht:
quote:
Court 20
Before MRS JUSTICE HOGG
Monday, 7 July, 2008
At 10:30 AM
IN OPEN COURT
FD07P01121 McCann
Applications/Summonses in Court as in Chambers
En zoal gezegd, ik geloof er niks van dat ze dit doen om de documenten eerder te mogen inzien, zie mijn eerdere post. Misschien gaan er een paar 3A's naar toe, het is Open Court tenslotte. En verder Expresso Exclusive Interview to Gonçalo Amara, het complete interview dus met hem. Reacties op het 3arguidoforum. Ik moet het allemaal nog lezen.

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Dat is schrikken, zelfs de telegraph drukt delen af van het interview met Amaral, (origineel) gosh...voor de rest hult de Britse pers zich in stilzwijgen...
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Madeleine McCann: I am convinced she is dead, says former Portuguese police chief
The former Portuguese police chief who led the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has said he is "convinced" she is dead.

Goncalo Amaral said: "I am convinced of it, yes," Mr Amaral, 48, was removed from the case last October after publicly criticising British police.

He said today: "I am not saying that the English police were under the command of the McCanns, but they were influenced, as we were. "In a way, we were all influenced by the campaign that they organised, according to which the girl was alive and had to be found."

Mr Amaral retired earlier this week, saying he wanted to have "freedom of expression" over the case. He described the decision to remove him from the investigation as "unjust and dangerous" and is expected to publish a book as soon as judicial secrecy restrictions are lifted, probably in mid-August.

Portuguese police have already closed their investigation. The final case report has been passed to the Portuguese authorities who are due to review the completed file and decide if further action is required.

Madeleine went missing in May 2007, days before her fourth birthday, from a holiday flat in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz as her parents dined at a nearby restaurant. The McCann family and the British media have strongly criticised the Portuguese judicial police's handling of the investigation and Amaral's lack of communication.

Amaral subsequently claimed that British police had "been investigating leads created and cultivated" by Madeleine's parents and had "forgotten that the couple are suspects in the death of their daughter."
Zo is dat! Maar uit het originele interview vind ik deze uitspraak van Amaral veel omvattend: "Was the investigation's direction, homicide, disturbing the political power?" This case was more political than a police case.

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Afijn, ook Amaral gaat (proberen) z'n gram halen, net als voorheen de McCanns (met sukses) en Robert Murat, van deze laatste is nog niet bekend of dat al in gang is gezet.
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Amaral is looking for a British lawyer
The former PJ investigator's legal representative has contacted two British lawyers, to launch a libel suit against several British newspapers. The first lawyer contacted accepted to represent Mr. Gonçalo Amaral but, two weeks after, changed his mind. The same happened with a second lawyer. “I don't know what is going on, over there, but I'm convinced this is not a problem of Democracy. United Kingdom is a democratic country, with democratic laws, so everybody should have its rights (to a legal defence). I don't understand what's going on”, Mr. Amaral told to Lusa News Agency. Bron
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Maddie: Investigation contnues and gains new momentum
"Despite all the advances in information media, especially the United Kingdom, the Judicial Police denied that the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann either abandoned or stored, what is confirmed by a source of the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) put forward by the existence of two crucial witnesses who have not yet been communicated to the Portuguese authorities.

As a reminder, the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) and Leicestershire police have cooperated in the investigation of the Portuguese authorities, as was confirmed Patricia Scotland, Minister of State and Attorney General for England and Wales." sosmaddie.dhblogs.be
Dat is nieuw, twee getuigen. Uhm....Kate en Gerry? Of wederom de Smith-jes uit Ierland, Russel O'Brien en Jane Tanner zouden ook nog kunnen, of twee luitjes die we helemaal over het hoofd hebben gezien... Reacties: SOS Maddie 4/07/08: two crucial witness statements! My woops

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  vrijdag 4 juli 2008 @ 21:52:44 #183
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Op vrijdag 4 juli 2008 21:36 schreef Suko het volgende:
Dat is schrikken, zelfs de telegraph drukt delen af van het interview met Amaral, (origineel) gosh...voor de rest hult de Britse pers zich in stilzwijgen...

Zo is dat! Maar uit het originele interview vind ik deze uitspraak van Amaral veel omvattend: "Was the investigation's direction, homicide, disturbing the political power?" This case was more political than a police case.
Afijn, ook Amaral gaat (proberen) z'n gram halen, net als voorheen de McCanns (met sukses) en Robert Murat, van deze laatste is nog niet bekend of dat al in gang is gezet.

Dat is nieuw, twee getuigen. Uhm....Kate en Gerry? Of wederom de Smith-jes uit Ierland, Russel O'Brien en Jane Tanner zouden ook nog kunnen, of twee luitjes die we helemaal over het hoofd hebben gezien... Reacties: SOS Maddie 4/07/08: two crucial witness statements! My woops
Ik las het, weet niet goed wat te denken, ik laat het voorlopig wel even allemaal op me af komen, 7 juli is al bijna, dan zal er hopelijk wel het 1 en ander loskomen.
Het wordt nu wel heel surrealistisch en verwarrend, als het een soap was dan zouden we zeggen dat het te ongeloofwaardig was.......
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Op vrijdag 4 juli 2008 21:52 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Ik las het, weet niet goed wat te denken, ik laat het voorlopig wel even allemaal op me af komen, 7 juli is al bijna, dan zal er hopelijk wel het 1 en ander loskomen.
Het wordt nu wel heel surrealistisch en verwarrend, als het een soap was dan zouden we zeggen dat het te ongeloofwaardig was.......
Kun je wel zeggen Kahaarin, en daar hebben de McCanns zelf de hoofdrollen in én de regie. Maar we zullen zien maandag, Clarence Mitchell, we know about 7 july...
* Reminder:
Court Hearings – Family Division
Court 20
Before MRS JUSTICE HOGG
Monday, 7 July, 2008
At 10:30 AM
IN OPEN COURT
FD07P01121 McCann
Applications/Summonses in Court as in Chambers

Vermoedelijk zal de uitkomst niet direct bekend worden, en mogelijk niet eens openbaar gemaakt. Maar we zullen zien, hier en daar zijn er slimmerds met een missie, ook die vlakbij Londen wonen...

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  vrijdag 4 juli 2008 @ 22:33:30 #185
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quote:
Op vrijdag 4 juli 2008 22:25 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Kun je wel zeggen Kahaarin, en daar hebben de McCanns zelf de hoofdrollen in én de regie. Maar we zullen zien maandag, Clarence Mitchell, we know about 7 july...
* Reminder:
Court Hearings – Family Division
Court 20
Before MRS JUSTICE HOGG
Monday, 7 July, 2008
At 10:30 AM
IN OPEN COURT
FD07P01121 McCann
Applications/Summonses in Court as in Chambers

Vermoedelijk zal de uitkomst niet direct bekend worden, en mogelijk niet eens openbaar gemaakt. Maar we zullen zien, hier en daar zijn er slimmerds met een missie, ook die vlakbij Londen wonen...
Three arguido's forum for the win! Ik hoop echt op een beetje meer duidelijkheid, ik snap er zo langzamerhand niets meer van.....

Wel inzage, geen inzage. Wel bewijs, geen bewijs. Wel een aanklacht, geen aanklacht......

Afwachten is niet mijn sterkste kant, misschien was je dat al opgevallen.......
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  vrijdag 4 juli 2008 @ 23:13:00 #186
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Op vrijdag 4 juli 2008 22:33 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Three arguido's forum for the win! Ik hoop echt op een beetje meer duidelijkheid, ik snap er zo langzamerhand niets meer van.....

Wel inzage, geen inzage. Wel bewijs, geen bewijs. Wel een aanklacht, geen aanklacht......

Afwachten is niet mijn sterkste kant, misschien was je dat al opgevallen.......
Nee maar dat geeft niet Kahaarin, alleen ongeduldige mensen lossen vaak de zaken op...
FOK!'s rode weduwe.
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Op vrijdag 4 juli 2008 22:33 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Three arguido's forum for the win! Ik hoop echt op een beetje meer duidelijkheid, ik snap er zo langzamerhand niets meer van.....

Wel inzage, geen inzage. Wel bewijs, geen bewijs. Wel een aanklacht, geen aanklacht......

Afwachten is niet mijn sterkste kant, misschien was je dat al opgevallen.......
Whahahahaha.....! Iedereen heeft inmiddels al het geduld verloren, me to. Maar het is zo lullig zomaar halverwege af te haken, en die McCann-zooi niet meer lastig te vallen met mogelijke lastige forum- en blogberichten. Wel is het zo dat als er lange eindeloze rechtszaken komen ik ook vaarwel zeg, net als vele anderen, mogelijk wordt dan ook het 3arguidoforum e.d. opgeheven want daar zit niemand op te wachten. Geen zin ook in het wederom afkraken van weer een sighting, dat is inmiddels al tig keer gedaan, of gewoon hen afkraken, hoe terecht ook, het wordt zo eentonig en levert geen nieuws op. Ik geef het de tijd als er toch documenten vrijkomen, mogelijk alleen via de Portugese pers, want de McCanns zullen echt alles doen om publicaties te voorkomen. Het moet maar eens afgelopen zijn vind ik. Justice for Madeleine zal misschien niet letterlijk gebeuren, maar je kan wel stellen dat het meisje voor eeuwig een plek heeft gekregen bij zoveel mensen. Mogelijk draagt dit alles er toch toe bij dat een vakantieuitje iets voor én met de familie is, stal je kids niet constant bij oppassers, en indien niet aanwezig....blijf dan bij je kids, neem als ouder je verantwoordelijkheid, waar dan ook. Madeleine staat imo model voor deze tijd, wel kinderen willen hebben maar dat moet wel passen in een stressy druk schema (met als mogelijke consequentie dat ouders flippen als het ff niet lekker loopt) van werken, clubjes, sporten, vergaderingen etc etc, terwijl dat eigenlijk andersom zou moeten zijn. Ohw, tijd voor wat anders, ik ga slap ouwenelen zie ik....

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  zaterdag 5 juli 2008 @ 12:31:52 #188
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quote:
Op vrijdag 4 juli 2008 23:34 schreef Suko het volgende:

Whahahahaha.....! Iedereen heeft inmiddels al het geduld verloren, me to. Maar het is zo lullig zomaar halverwege af te haken, en die McCann-zooi niet meer lastig te vallen met mogelijke lastige forum- en blogberichten.
Halverwege afhaken doe ik niet, ik blijf gewoon hier totdat er duidelijkheid is, dat zal ze leren....
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Wel is het zo dat als er lange eindeloze rechtszaken komen ik ook vaarwel zeg, net als vele anderen, mogelijk wordt dan ook het 3arguidoforum e.d. opgeheven want daar zit niemand op te wachten. Geen zin ook in het wederom afkraken van weer een sighting, dat is inmiddels al tig keer gedaan, of gewoon hen afkraken, hoe terecht ook, het wordt zo eentonig en levert geen nieuws op. Ik geef het de tijd als er toch documenten vrijkomen, mogelijk alleen via de Portugese pers, want de McCanns zullen echt alles doen om publicaties te voorkomen.
Eindeloze rechtzaken zie ik er niet van komen, er is imho weinig om over te procederen, hopelijk komt er nog boven tafel wat er nu daadwerkelijk met het meisje is gebeurt.
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Het moet maar eens afgelopen zijn vind ik. Justice for Madeleine zal misschien niet letterlijk gebeuren, maar je kan wel stellen dat het meisje voor eeuwig een plek heeft gekregen bij zoveel mensen. Mogelijk draagt dit alles er toch toe bij dat een vakantieuitje iets voor én met de familie is, stal je kids niet constant bij oppassers, en indien niet aanwezig....blijf dan bij je kids, neem als ouder je verantwoordelijkheid, waar dan ook. Madeleine staat imo model voor deze tijd, wel kinderen willen hebben maar dat moet wel passen in een stressy druk schema (met als mogelijke consequentie dat ouders flippen als het ff niet lekker loopt) van werken, clubjes, sporten, vergaderingen etc etc, terwijl dat eigenlijk andersom zou moeten zijn. Ohw, tijd voor wat anders, ik ga slap ouwenelen zie ik....
Gewoon slap blijven ouwenelen, je hebt gewoon gelijk, als er dan iets goeds uit moet komen dan is het dit wel.

@Tmaatje: Ik heb niet de illusie dat ik het kan oplossen.
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Hajo Kahaarin, yep...ik blijf mogelijk inderdaad een slappe ouweneel Maar het kán toch lang gaan duren, we zullen zien! De McCanns zelf zijn maandag niet aanwezig (nog op vakantie...?) als het verzoek wordt behandeld door het Hoog-gerechtshof aangaande het eerder verkrijgen van de documenten, die mogelijk volgende maand, of iets eerder, worden vrijgegeven : "The police are expected to argue that their leads and evidence form the basis for a possible criminal case and should be kept confidential. Kate and Gerry are on holiday and will not be in court." The Mirror

Merkwaardig: "MADELEINE McCann died in her family's holiday flat, the officer who led the case into her disappearance claimed yesterday. But ex-Chief Inspector Goncalo Amaral said Maddie was not killed in the apartment. He said he was convinced that Maddie — who vanished from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007, shortly before her fourth birthday — will never be found alive. Amaral was kicked off the case after five months for publicly criticising British police. He stopped just short of accusing Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry of killing her, telling Portuguese TV: "It's not that she was killed in the apartment, but she died there." The Sun Niet vermoord, maar door wát dan...toch misschien van de trap gevallen en daar ook gevonden en vervolgens 'kwijt' gemaakt? Discussies hier te lezen.

Iemand vertaalde een interview van gisteravond:
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The former Polícia Judiciária investigator criticized the PJ director and the Justice minister, on a interview, tonight, with TVI, a Portuguese channel. Asked if he believed that Madeleine was dead, Gonçalo Amaral said that he was “convinced” she was dead “based on the evidence collected”. When the journalist asked: “Was she killed, there (in the apartment)?”, the former PJ inspector said: “She died there”. About Madeleine's parents being named as formal suspects, Amaral spoke about “strong evidence” as the base for the decision and referred that “there was a common understanding”, between Portuguese and British police officers involved in the investigation, about the fact that Madeleine was dead.

“There was evidence, about two different crimes – which were referred by the defence lawyer, Pinto de Abreu, in a public statement – and it was hiding a body and a criminal simulation. That was the situation, when I left the investigation,” Mr. Amaral said. The former PJ inspector, who has a Law Degree from Lisbon University, mentioned the fact that “these kind of cases of disappearance, frequently bring with it other crimes, sometimes fake statements or physical abuse”.
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Goed nieuws, Charlotte van Cutting through the rubbish is weer terug met een interessante terugblik betreffende het gevonden DNA-materiaal. Met een origineel artikel van The Evening Standard, wat later is 'overwritten' zoals met zoveel artikelen is gebeurd. Ik heb alles gesaved, want zoals Charlotte aangeeft, de links+verhaal zullen snel verdwijnen nu zij dit heeft gepubliceerd.

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Blimey, zou zo maar kunnen, poster MalCat:
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"There is no evidence that the PJ are leaking or spinning or whatever. The investigative phase of this case is ending, that is all. The rest is Clarrie rubbish. If the prosecuting judge comes to the conclusion that there is insufficient evidence of guilt he can either order the case be shelved pending the coming to light of new evidence in the future - files remain secret and arguido status remains in place - or he can send the files back to the PJ and order them to continue with the investigation. He can extend the secrecy of justice at intervals if he concludes this is necessary to the investigation. To suggest that the judiciary is playing silly games to somehow make themselves and the PJ look better is to misinterpret what is in fact going on. Public opinion is of no importance: the civil code system is aimed at getting at the truth of a case. IMO the recent 'leaks' in the Portuguese press did not originate from Portuguese sources; I think what we are seeing is an elaborate smokescreen of PR and misinformation to disguise from the public that the macs' holiday is no such thing and that they have been told to go back to Portugal."
Als je bedenkt dat de Daily Mail op dinsdag 1 juni j.l. meldt dat ze op vakantie zijn, dus mogelijk de dag ervoor en dan op maandag 7 juli niet voor het Hooggerechtshof kunnen verschijnen wegens nog steeds op vakantie?

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Joana Morais Report of PJ Discards Kidnapp Theory
CM reveals content of the document


The main argument against the kidnapper entry through the apartment's window was given by the parents.
Window to small to pass the child through it
Group Witness Contradicted

Main Topics
English Lab withdrew the final results
Dogs scented blood in the house and in the car
Kate and Maddie Clothes had cadaver odour
McCanns Neighbour heard Child crying for more than one hour

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The animals detected cadaver odor in the apartment, the stuffed animal and Kate’s clothes

DOGS DECISIVE FOR PJ

British animals [both] agreed on the scent of “indications” in various places and objects

The alerting of the British dogs specially trained to detect cadaver odor and human blood was decisive in making Kate and Gerry arguidos.

Faced with the coincidence of the alerting of both animals, which signaled the same locations and objects related to the McCanns, the authorities were obliged to admit a possible involvement of Kate and Gerry in the disappearance of their daughter and to make them arguidos in order to confront them with evidence which could result in their incrimination – for, as [merely] witnesses, they could not opt to remain silent.

According to what CM has discovered, in the final investigation report produced by the PJ the investigators explained that the animals only gave their detection signals in places and objects related to the McCanns: in the apartment where Madeleine disappeared (in the parent’s bedroom, the living room and next to a side window), in the back patio, the family’s car (rented 24 days after the girl disappeared), two pieces of Kate’s clothes and Maddie’s stuffed animal – the one Kate never released in the days following the disappearance.

In the McCann’s friend’s apartments, in the Luz village and in all the vehicles used by Robert Murat, the first to be made arguido, nothing was found by the dogs. Given these indications, reinforced by other detailed tests done in Portugal and England, the PJ interrogated Kate and Gerry and made them arguidos. The animals, Springer Spaniels, are heavily used in the UK in the search for missing people or homicide victims, with positive results.

KATE JUSTIFIES DEATH ODOR
Kate McCann didn’t negate the fact that her two pieces of clothes and the stuffed animal had been signaled by the English dogs trained to find cadaver odor and justified it by her profession. Madeleine’s mother alleged that as a doctor at the Leicester health center, she was present at six deaths directly before she came to Portugal on holiday, giving the same excuse for Madeleine’s stuffed animal, that was with her in the months after her daughter disappeared.

VESTIGES OF A CRIME
Two specially trained dogs, used as criminal investigation assistants, detected cadaver odor in the McCann’s bedroom, the living room, Kate’s clothes, the girl’s stuffed animal and the car key, as well as spots of blood in the boot of the car and the apartment living room. Source: Correio da Manhã

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Vervolg op bovenstaande artikel waarbij deze tekst wordt vermeld bij de afbeelding, door Nigel: [Note: Diagram above is incorrect as it indicates cadaver odour beside the bedroom window. The odour was actually found outside the patio doors 'in a seedbed of the yard']
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Main Article: PJ couldn't find child's body

INVESTIGATION REVEALS ABDUCTION IMPOSSIBLE

Final report describes dozens of diligences and unravels incongruences in the theory proposed by Maddie's parents

Thirteen months after Madeleine disappeared, the PJ ended the investigation that continues to be marked by uncertainties. The final report, the CM today exclusively reveals, does not determine guilt but leaves new and strong doubts about the theory presented by the English child's parents. It describes in great detail the diligences done by the investigators – who tried, in every possible way, to confirm their hypothesis – and reveals that it was theoretically impossible to have happened. The witnesses don't make sense, especially not the way that one of the friends said she saw a man carrying a child almost an hour before the alert about the disappearance occurred. This would be Jane Tanner, who guarantees she surprised the unknown man in a street where Maddie's father and another witness also were. Both guarantee that they saw nothing, even though they were in the same line of sight. Tanner, who much later made a photofit of the supposed abductor, also said that the man carried the child in a horizontal position. The size of the window reveals that this could only have happened if the child were carried vertically.

Being that as it may, the PJ tried through all possible means to find who could have taken Maddie. They did dozens of diligences related to suspects of sexual abuse. Elements were collected about those registered that could have been on holidays in the Algarve during that time period, in order to verify if there could have been any connection with little Maddie.

In addition, all the other residents of the village were investigated. The PJ entered more than 400 houses surrounding the Ocean Club and found nothing. On the window where Kate guaranteed that Maddie was taken no vestiges of the girl were found. Only marks that confirmed the DNA of the girl's mother.

The PJ's final report shows the details of an investigation that reached unprecedented levels. A couple was investigated that had allegedly tried to abduct another child, a fine toothed comb was used to research the clues that Maddie had been seen at a gas station. A crematorium was searched and Maddie’s genetic profile was compared to that of a child’s body found on the coast of the United States.

The PJ investigated a supposed beggar and followed thousands of clues around the world. In vain. Nothing confirmed the proposed abduction theory.

Change of versions: Laboratory was no longer certain

ENGLISH RETREATED ON THE EXAMINATIONS

They said the vestiges were compatible with Maddie's DNA, then later denied it.

Dog's indications were not corroborated by science


It was the strangest about-face in the investigation. The first examinations done by the English laboratory, a pioneer in the analysis of biological vestiges, said it was probable that the residues collected in the McCann's car were compatible with Madeleine's genetic profile.

Months later – after the PJ had made the parents arguidos, according to the final report only because of indications that they had hidden the child's body – the laboratory ended up correcting their initial information. In the end, the examinations of the vestiges collected from the Renaul Scénic rented by the McCanns were not conclusive and it wasn’t even possible to determine the quality of the material, that is, to know whether it was bodily fluid or vestiges of blood.

This scientific alteration, still not completely clarified, ended up leading the investigation to a dead end. The utilisation of the dogs that detected cadaver odors and blood are not valid within the Portuguese judicial system and it was necessary to scientifically corroborate the dog's detections.

The PJ's decision to send the analyses to England was based on a question of credibility. The investigators didn't want the results to be disputed by the English, accepting therefore that the vestiges should be analysed in that country.

USELESS TRIP TO ENGLAND

In April of this year, Paulo Rebelo and two of the investigators for this process who were trying to understand the puzzle of Madeleine's disappearance went to Leicester to interview the British who spent holidays in Praia de Luz with the McCanns. From the final report, we now know that nothing conclusive was discovered from these interrogations.

The PJ maintained the same close collaboration with the local police, but from the depositions they brought nothing new. The McCann friends limited themselves to confirming what they had said in the earlier interviews and the PJ left with empty hands from that city just north of London.

OVER ONE HOUR CRYING

Pamela Fenn remembers hearing the child uncontrollably crying

Madeleine parents never contradicted that it was already a habit for their three children to be all alone inside the Praia da Luz apartment while they dined; a fact corroborated by several witness statements - the Oceans Club employees.

Although the parents defended themselves by stating that they visited the children every half an hour, every night, the witness statement of neighbour Pamela Fenn crumbled the McCann couple's version, when she guaranteed to the PJ that she had heard Maddie crying out loud for one hour and fifteen minutes, two nights before the crime. The British woman lives at the first floor, just above the apartment rented by the McCanns and she told to the inspectors, that on the night of the 1st of May, at 22:30, she heard a child crying, and by the sound it was Madeleine.

She guaranteed to the Judiciary Police that the child was uncontrollably crying for one hour and fifteen minutes, until the parents arrived. The neighbour heard the noise of the door at 23:45, when Kate and Gerry ended their usual gathering with their friends at the Tapas Bar – the Oceans Club restaurant at the pool side, where they had dinner daily. This testimony contradicts the daily routine of visits that the couple declared to have with their children – and the McCanns are not free from criticism by another British woman. Yvonne Martin, a British Social Care worker on holiday in Luz, who also blamed the McCanns negligent behaviour.

On the Side

CHANGES
Paulo Rebelo, the new leader of the investigation after Gonçalo Amaral's exit, was at the Ocean Club several times, from which were collected a variety of vestiges. He was also in England, where he heard testimonies.

NUMBERS

443
door to door interviews at Ocean Club apartments, done by the PJ, are part of 2000 diligences, formal and informal, undertaken during the investigation

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village employees were heard by the inspectors in the days following the crime. The PJ also spoke with the 12 GNR officers that went through the apartment on the night of 3 May.

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police and civil guard workers were involved in the first 24 hours of the search. On the following day, this number increased to 300.

188
garbage bins were searched with a fine-toothed comb in Praia da Luz, Lagos, in an attempt to find Madeleine's body.

30
square kilometers is the area covered in searches by all the land forces during the first days, in addition to the Maritime Police. Source: Correio da Manhã Bron: Joana Morais

Translations By Debk and JM
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Wat zien we hier eigenlijk:


Indications of where dogs detected cadaver scent and blood (bron)
[Note: Diagram above is incorrect as it indicates cadaver odour beside the bedroom window. The odour was actually found outside the patio doors 'in a seedbed of the yard']

Text beside dogs:

Red dog (Eddie): 'Places where cadaver odour was detected'
Orange dog (Keela): 'Places where biological vestiges were detected'
Cadaver/Biological vestiges: 'Behind the sofa' (living room)
Cadaver: 'To the side of the wardrobe' (parents bedroom)
Cadaver: 'In a seedbed of the yard' (outside patio door entrance)

Text beside other items:

'Other vestiges' (sporen)

Cadaver: 'Piece of Madeleine’s clothing'
Cadaver: 'Soft toy'
Cadaver: 'Two pieces of clothing or Kate Healy McCann'
Cadaver/Biological vestiges: 'Luggage area and car keys of the McCanns'

Heb het zo'n beetje gelezen, er blijft nog veel onduidelijk. Eerst waren de gevonden sporen wel van Madeleine, later weer niet. En wat dit nu weer moet betekenen: "This scientific alteration, still not completely clarified, ended up leading the investigation to a dead end."still not completely clarified."

De verhoren is de UK leverden ook niks op, wat wel te verwachten was, alle neuzen waren allang van tevoren naar één kant gezet. De verklaringen van Jane Tanner worden niet geloofd, dan zal niemand verbazen. In ieder geval is wel duidelijk dat de checks van de McCanns en vrienden niet kloppen, gezien de getuigenis van buuv Mrs. Fenn die Madeleine op diverse avonden heeft horen huilen. Ook een Britse sociaal werkster aldaar Yvonne Martin beticht de McCanns van nalatigheid. Ik plaats dat stukje nog maar eens:
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Pamela Fenn remembers hearing the child uncontrollably crying

Madeleine parents never contradicted that it was already a habit for their three children to be all alone inside the Praia da Luz apartment while they dined; a fact corroborated by several witness statements - the Oceans Club employees.

Although the parents defended themselves by stating that they visited the children every half an hour, every night, the witness statement of neighbour Pamela Fenn crumbled the McCann couple's version, when she guaranteed to the PJ that she had heard Maddie crying out loud for one hour and fifteen minutes, two nights before the crime. The British woman lives at the first floor, just above the apartment rented by the McCanns and she told to the inspectors, that on the night of the 1st of May, at 22:30, she heard a child crying, and by the sound it was Madeleine.

She guaranteed to the Judiciary Police that the child was uncontrollably crying for one hour and fifteen minutes, until the parents arrived. The neighbour heard the noise of the door at 23:45, when Kate and Gerry ended their usual gathering with their friends at the Tapas Bar – the Oceans Club restaurant at the pool side, where they had dinner daily. This testimony contradicts the daily routine of visits that the couple declared to have with their children – and the McCanns are not free from criticism by another British woman. Yvonne Martin, a British Social Care worker on holiday in Luz, who also blamed the McCanns negligent behaviour.
Ik mis gewoon iets in dit verhaal en ik weet niet precies wat, maar goed, net wat Amaral al zei: "There was more politics than police.”

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Mogguh all. Wederom een artikel uit de Correio da Manhã (papieren versie), vertaald door Astro, gelezen op de site van Joana Morais
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Maddie Case - Final Report – ‘CM’ exclusively reveals all the steps of the investigation

English combined depositions

The Polícia Judiciária apprehended a memo that was typed by the McCanns and their friends, which describes in detail what each one of them did on the evening of the disappearance

Article by: Eduardo Dâmaso/Tânia Laranjo


The Polícia Judiciária calls it a “typed report”. It was appended to the process with the number 886 and elaborated by the English before they were formally questioned by the Polícia Judiciária from Portimão after Madeleine’s disappearance.

For the authorities, the minute manner in which the description was made reveals that the group of English people intended to “remember the steps that they made on that evening”. They described the facts, temporally and spatially, and those were the details that they revealed to the investigators.

Everything in an absolutely coherent form, closing the door to emotion. It is never explained, for example, how the group, that also had their children asleep in their rooms within the resort, never followed the instinct of confirming whether they were safe, after Kate launched the alert over her daughter’s disappearance. They came looking for Maddie, but failed to check if their own children had been abducted.

This document is considered important and was taken into account in the final report, whose contents CM reveals in an exclusive. It is fundamental as far as it has removed any spontaneity from the depositions made by the English, including the McCanns, whose description of the hours prior to the disappearance were fundamental for the investigation.

The final report contains a comprehensive description of the routines and of the last moments when Madeleine was seen alive, in order to clarify doubts and to try to overcome apparent incongruities.

Gerry McCann guarantees that on that day – and contrary to what was usual – failed to accompany his friends during the afternoon snack at the beach area. Only the McCanns returned to their apartment earlier, as confirmed by the surveillance cameras at the restaurant where the friends were.

The father assured that they collected their children at the crèche at around 5 p.m. and that on that day they immediately went to their lodging with the children. At 7.30 p.m. they put them to bed, and around 8.30 p.m. they left for the Tapas bar, which is located near the resort’s swimming pool.

Around 9 p.m., Gerry guarantees that he went to check on his children: but he failed to enter Madeleine’s bedroom and only later gave importance to the fact that the door was more open than he had left it. The alert to the little girl’s disappearance was given at approximately 10 p.m., and one hour later the GNR was informed about the event. The English guarantee that they only alerted BBC at around 2 a.m.

Passional crime was equated

Apart from abduction, the PJ followed other leads. One of them was the possibility that a passional crime had taken place. In the final report, the investigators remember that they studied the possibility that the abduction was due to a vengeance against the parents. Nothing was discovered in that sense either, despite the fact that the life of the McCanns and the other English people was investigated.

Details

Several interrogations – In their final report, the PJ stresses that the English were comprehensively questioned in detail, on several occasions, with the purpose of collecting all the elements that were deemed relevant.

Testing details - From the analysis of the interrogations, the PJ mentions in their final report that there were “important details that were not fully understood and integrated”, which, according to the PJ, needed to be “tested and connected on the location of the event”.

Four questions that remained unanswered

In its final report, the PJ lists the four questions that it would like to see answered during the reconstitution of the facts. A diligence that was not made because some of the English refused to return to Portugal.

The first one concerns the real and effective proximity between Jane Tanner, Gerry McCann and Jeremy Wilkins (a witness that stood talking to Maddie’s father at around 9 p.m.). It is mentioned in the report that it is “unusual” that Gerry and Jeremy failed to see the alleged abductor that was seen by Tanner, given the fact that they were standing within the same small space.

Another question that the PJ wanted to clarify was the situation of the window to the bedroom where Maddie was sleeping. According to Kate, it was open, but it was important to verify whether there was a draft that would allow for the curtains to move.

The verification of the manner in which the children were checked upon also seemed important. If it was as intense as the witnesses stated, it made the entrance of an abductor almost impossible, who could only pass with the child in a vertical position, not a horizontal one, as Jane Tanner says she saw a man with a child.

Finally, the inspectors wanted to know exactly what happened between 5.30 p.m. and 10 p.m. – the time at which Maddie was seen last, and the moment when the alert to the disappearance was given.

Captions of photos:

Gonçalo Amaral tried the reconstitution shortly after the facts. Then it was Paulo Rebelo’s turn to suggest it. It was never done, because the English didn’t want it

Gerry and Kate’s versions failed to convince the investigators

Other notes:

PGR [State Prosecutor] | Read the report already – Pinto Monteiro said yesterday that he has already read the final report, but excused himself from advancing what will be the Public Ministry’s dispatch, in a case whose secrecy may end as soon as this month

Concluded | No diligences – The PJ makes no suggestions concerning the manner in which the Public Ministry should act. It only says that it does not see any further diligences that could be useful to the investigation

Nothing new | English

The PJ says that the diligences that were requested through a rogatory letter, brought nothing new to the investigation. Which means that what happened on the evening of the 3rd of May was not established Source: paper edition of Correio da Manhã, July 6, 2008
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Op basis van dit artikel qua check van Gerry, heb ik het een en ander opgezocht die in contrast staan met eerdere 'feitjes' komende uit het transscript van de BBC (tekst uit de docu van Panorama 21 November 2007) Vanity Fair (interview uit oktober, gepubliceerd January 10, 2008) en The Times (December 16, 2007) > alledrie geautoriseerd, dus met toestemming van betrokkenen.

Geeft Gerry McCann Madeleine wel echt gezien bij de check rond 21.00u? En dat Mike Oldfield alleen geluisterd heeft was al bekend.

CdM: "Around 9 p.m., Gerry guarantees that he went to check on his children: but he failed to enter Madeleine’s bedroom and only later gave importance to the fact that the door was more open than he had left it."

BBC: "He says that their bedroom door was more open than usual so he goes in. Gerry McCann has told Panorama he remembers looking down at Madeleine. He spent a moment thinking how beautiful she looked and how lucky he was. He says this was the last time he saw his daughter. He closes the bedroom door and leaves through these unlocked patio doors."

VF: "The night of May 3, Gerry checked on Madeleine, fast asleep in her pink-and-white Winnie the Pooh pajamas, and the twins, at 9:05, but the friend who next checked on the McCann children said afterward that he did not actually see Madeleine." (een juiste constatering blijkt nu, niet verwonderlijk dat achteraf de McCanns niet blij waren met dit interview, zie http://www.mccannfiles.com/id63.html

The Times: "Earlier that week the McCanns had used a key to go in through the front door next to the children’s bedroom but, worrying the noise might wake the children, they began using the patio doors, leaving them unlocked. When he entered the apartment, Gerry immediately saw that the children’s bedroom door, which they always left just ajar, was now open to 45 degrees. He thought that was odd, and glanced in his own bedroom to see if Madeleine had gone into her parents’ bed. But no, she and the twins were all still fast asleep. Gerry paused over Madeleine, who – a typical doctor’s observation, this – was lying almost in “the recovery position” with Cuddle Cat, the toy her godfather, John Corner, had bought her, and her comfort blanket up near her head, and Gerry thought how gorgeous, how lovely-looking she was and how lucky he was. Putting the door back to five degrees, he went to the loo and left to return to the restaurant. That, of course, was the last time he would see his daughter."

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Wat verder opvalt uit de CdM dat er inderdaad CCTV-beelden zijn: "Gerry McCann guarantees that on that day – and contrary to what was usual – failed to accompany his friends during the afternoon snack at the beach area. Only the McCanns returned to their apartment earlier, as confirmed by the surveillance cameras at the restaurant where the friends were."

Opvallend ook dat K&G en de rest toen al geen reconstructie wilden toen ze nog in Praia da Luz waren: "Gonçalo Amaral tried the reconstitution shortly after the facts. Then it was Paulo Rebelo’s turn to suggest it. It was never done, because the English didn’t want it." Overigens ben ik van mening dat er toch wel zeer de nadruk wordt gelegd op 'neglect', (iets wat de McCanns goed zal uitkomen (altijd nog beter dan moord) want daar zullen de lawers de zaak op richten) wat bij betreft volgt daarop, dood door schuld. Maar neglect zal al moeilijk te bewijzen zijn, laat staan erger. Er zal nog wel meer komen, dit kan echt niet alles zijn.

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Zo, alvorens hier het bedlampje uitgaat: Carol Malone, columniste van News Of The World (waarom werkt ze niet voor een andere krant, NOTW is niet bepaald een kwaliteitskrant, áls die nog bestaan in de UK...) gaf al eerder een pittig commentaartje. Vandaag in een papieren versie van die krant, iets wat je almeer ziet, gelezen op 't 3arguidoforum:
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From todays news of the world.
Do people seriously think that Portuguese and British cops have kept the file on Maddie McCann open for more than a year in order to embarrass, humilliate and torture her perents Kate and Gerry? Hasn't it occurred to anyone (especially the McCanns) that this file has been left open and questions have continued to be asked because coppers (as inept as some of them have been) really want to find Maddie, preferably, alive?

Why should Kate and Gerry get an apology now the case files look like it's about to be closed? It has always been in their best interests to have it kept open so Maddie abductors (or killers) can be found. And by closing the file the police aren't saying anyone is guilty or innocent. They are simply saying they can't find or prove who took her. Yes the police have made stupid mistakes. But then so did Kate and Gerry by leaving their children alone in an unlocked apartment for five nights in a row while they went out eating and drinking with friends. And if the McCanns as rumors suggest are not going to be charged with neglect they ought to be grateful.

Because while those charges might not be brought very often in Britain they are routinely brought in other european countries, where society and the legal system seem to value kid safty more than we do. (if you think Britain cares about its children ask yourselves why convicted paedophiles are freed by courts to wander among our kids, when even they tell us thay can't be cured). The tragedy here isn't Kate and Gerry's hurt feelings over the investigation, it's that Maddie's still missing, and closing the file means her abductors have got away scot-free.
Met dat laatste stukje ben ik het natuurlijk niet eens maar wie zegt mij dat Gerry&Kate en sommige van de Tapas 7 niet net zo goed ontvoerders/moordenaars kunnen zijn? Carole Malone doelt met excuses aan Kate en Gerry van kranten zoals van 'reporter' Lorraine Kelly in The Sun, collegablad van NOTW !, stukje is hier te lezen, en The Sunday Mirror. (columniste Fiona Mcintosh), en Allison Parsons in de Daily Mail schrijft over een public apology aan de McCanns. Hoe krijgen ze het uit de pen/pc...

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En ik las een interessant stuk op de site van Charlotte: Possible explanation for the first ever Madeleine story (by Stevo)
Source: 3 Arguidos written by Stevo. "The first known news story covering Madeleine's disappearance is a story in the Daily Telegraph online. Here is the link: Telegraph
Three year-old feared abducted in Portugal
By staff and agencies
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 04/05/2007

Dat is inderdaad frappant, mogelijk was het toch met voorbedachte rade en was het stuk voor de pers al klaar gezien de gegeven tijd. Charlotte heeft daar een intrigerende gedachte over (en meer ivm data/tijd van kranten/blogs en hoe dat werkt): "It is hard to imagine that parents would prearrange the death of their own child, therefore “premeditated” may suggest that Madeleine is alive after all and the cadaver scent was strategically placed. If so, then why? Was Madeleine’s disappearance originally some elaborate hoax (for reasons the public are obviously not privy to) devised between the British government and the McCanns, but later turned bad, resulting in the government backing out and the cadaver scent being planted to frame the McCanns? If the British government, for whatever reason, decided to turn on them then perhaps that would be reason enough for the McCanns to hire the best lawyers money can buy so early on.The mind boggles. I have a feeling that this case will spin within ever increasing circles and perhaps the truth behind Madeleine’s disappearance may never see the light of day – I hope I’m wrong."

Overigens schrijft de Correio da Manhã: "The English guarantee that they only alerted BBC at around 2 a.m." De BBC heeft de tijd naar een later tijdstip ge-update, en het door een ieder genoemde Sky news met een vestiging in Lissabon, die als eerste zou zijn gebeld, is het artikel al helemaal niet meer te vinden, site is ook moeilijk te benaderen, vernieuwd en zo, en voor het zoeken in het archief moet men zich registreren. Maar de Spaanse krant El Pais bewaard wel alles openbaar en in een vertaling : "The British media closed ranks around the pair of doctors as soon as the disappearance occurred. Three days after the report, the circus was already installed next door to Ocean Club. El Pais went to Praia da Luz that week; there were 33 Sky News journalists and 18 from the BBC. Sky had had access to the news of the kidnapping before the Portuguese police, confirmed a Police source. “Someone in the McCann circle phoned the Sky News Algarve correspondent from the Ocean Club on the night of the crime. The call was made at 22.11 pm. We ourselves were informed of the disappearance half an hour later, at 22.40”.

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Text beside dogs:

Red dog (Eddie): 'Places where cadaver odour was detected'
Orange dog (Keela): 'Places where biological vestiges were detected'
Cadaver/Biological vestiges: 'Behind the sofa' (living room)
Cadaver: 'To the side of the wardrobe' (parents bedroom)
Cadaver: 'In a seedbed of the yard' (outside patio door entrance)

Text beside other items:

'Other vestiges' (sporen)

Cadaver: 'Piece of Madeleine’s clothing'
Cadaver: 'Soft toy'
Cadaver: 'Two pieces of clothing or Kate Healy McCann'
Cadaver/Biological vestiges: 'Luggage area and car keys of the McCanns'
Er was toch ook DNA van Maddy gevonden?
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Op maandag 7 juli 2008 08:57 schreef yyentle het volgende:

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Er was toch ook DNA van Maddy gevonden?
Ik ben zelf, en velen met mij, daar zeer verward over. Als men de laatste 'onthullingen' moet geloven die de Portugese krant Correio Da Manha deze dagen heeft gepubliceerd uit de nog vrij te geven documenten...?
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"It was the strangest about-face in the investigation. The first examinations done by the English laboratory, a pioneer in the analysis of biological vestiges, said it was probable that the residues collected in the McCann's car were compatible with Madeleine's genetic profile.

Months later – after the PJ had made the parents arguidos, according to the final report only because of indications that they had hidden the child's body – the laboratory ended up correcting their initial information. In the end, the examinations of the vestiges collected from the Renaul Scénic rented by the McCanns were not conclusive and it wasn’t even possible to determine the quality of the material, that is, to know whether it was bodily fluid or vestiges of blood.

This scientific alteration, still not completely clarified, ended up leading the investigation to a dead end. The utilisation of the dogs that detected cadaver odors and blood are not valid within the Portuguese judicial system and it was necessary to scientifically corroborate the dog's detections. The PJ's decision to send the analyses to England was based on a question of credibility. The investigators didn't want the results to be disputed by the English, accepting therefore that the vestiges should be analysed in that country."
En als je bedenkt wat diezelfde krant Correio Da Manha in januari van dit jaar 'onthulde': en overgenomen door veel kranten:
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"Blood found in a car hired by her parents weeks after she disappeared definitely came from the British girl, it was reported yesterday. The Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha cited police sources as saying new tests on blood found in the hire car conclusively showed it was Madeleine's. "The definitive result of the tests leave no doubts for the Policia Judiciaria. The blood found in the McCanns' car is that of Madeleine as well as those samples detected in the flat," the paper said." Bron
Nou geloof ik niet dat het wereldberoemde Forensisch lab (FFS) in Birmingham fouten maakt of resultaten achterhoudt, maar mogelijk wel diegene die er over gáán, tenslotte is is het nu wel duidelijk dat het meer om een politieke kwestie (veel mensen hebben veel te verliezen) gaat dan om een politieonderzoek, zoals de Portugese ex-copper Amaral onlangs in interviews heeft gezegd. En dit zinnetje uit het artikel blijft ook vaag. "This scientific alteration, still not completely clarified, ended up leading the investigation to a dead end."

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En uit wiens zakken wordt dit allemaal betaald???
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Carter Ruck will advise 'Tapas 7'
By Tom Peck and Robert Verkaik Monday, 7 July 2008
Four months after Gerry and Kate McCann won apologies and a £550,000 libel pay out from four newspapers for "grotesque and grossly defamatory" articles concerning the disappearance of their daughter, Madeleine, seven friends of the couple have employed the same lawyers to act against at least one national newspaper.

The Carter Ruck libel firm is advising the so-called "Tapas Seven" group who were with the McCanns on the evening of Madeleine's disappearance in May 2007 in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz. Matthew Oldfield, Rachel Oldfield, Russell O'Brien, Jane Tanner, David Payne, Fiona Payne and Diane Webster are in talks with the Carter Ruck partner Adam Tudor, with action expected within weeks.

Mr Tudor, who acted for the McCanns, yesterday commented: "I can confirm I and my firm are advising the seven friends." He declined to elaborate or specify which newspaper they were considering suing. At the centre of possible action would be suggestions that the friends kept a "pact of silence" in their dealings with police, and that they refused to take part in a reconstruction of the night Madeleine disappeared. Bron
Reacties op het 3arguidoforum.

Maar goed Clarence Mitchell, dit nieuwsbommetje wordt echt geen smokescreen, want we weten het nog, vandaag: * Reminder:
Court Hearings – Family Division
Court 20
Before MRS JUSTICE HOGG
Monday, 7 July, 2008
At 10:30 AM
IN OPEN COURT
FD07P01121 McCann
Applications/Summonses in Court as in Chambers

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Blood found in a car hired by her parents weeks after she disappeared definitely came from the British girl, it was reported yesterday. The Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha cited police sources as saying new tests on blood found in the hire car conclusively showed it was Madeleine's. "The definitive result of the tests leave no doubts for the Policia Judiciaria. The blood found in the McCanns' car is that of Madeleine as well as those samples detected in the flat," the paper said." Bron
Ik had begrepen dat het iets te maken had met nieuwere technieken die in Engeland (nog) niet als bewijs mochten worden gebruikt.
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AMSTERDAM - Het officiële onderzoek naar de verdwijning van Madeleine McCann is dan wel gesloten, de voormalige leider van het onderzoek heeft nog een opmerkelijke onthulling gedaan...

Volgens de inspecteur Goncalo Amaral is Maddie namelijk gestorven in het appartement waar de familie McCann vakantie vierde. Hij benadrukt wel dat het meisje niet vermoord is, meldt The Sun.

De onderzoeker heeft gezegd dat hij ervan overtuigd is dat Maddie nooit meer levend terug gevonden wordt.

Amaral was van het onderzoek gezet nadat hij kritiek had geleverd op de Britse politie
http://www.telegraaf.nl/b(...)_appartement___.html
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Tja, als iedereen het onderzoek dan afsluit, moet ik het ook maar gaan afsluiten. Ik denk dat Madeleine inderdaad is gestorven in haar appartement en dat haar lichaam zeer succesvol is weggewerkt. Op één of andere onbegrijpelijke manier, komen de betrokkenen (Tapas 7) hiermee weg. Ik ben er echt van overtuigd dat de hele Tapas-clan precies weet wat er gebeurd is.

Het lijkt nu een overwinning voor hen, ze zullen er misschien zelfs nog wat rijker door worden ,maar aan de andere kant zullen ze toch moeten leren leven met wat er gebeurd is en dat lijkt me meer dan zwaar. Plus dat ze ooit tekst en uitleg aan hun kinderen moeten geven. Wellicht waren ze veel beter af geweest als ze gewoon direct hadden verteld wat er was gebeurd.

Mijn voorspelling voor de toekomst is als volgt: Kate stort op een gegeven moment helemaal in en het huwelijk tussen Gerry en haar spat uit elkaar. Het lijkt me namelijk dat Gerry de kwade genius is achter alles en Kate zal hem dat uiteindelijk niet kunnen vergeven. Wellicht dat tegen die tijd de waarheid toch nog naar boven zal komen.
Als je goed om je heen kijkt zie je dat alles gekleurd is.
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