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Discussieer hier diepgaander over de actualiteiten.
Anyway, Robert Murat, evenals de McCanns formeel verdachte maar verder uitgesloten voor verder onderzoek en heeft al z'n spullen terug, heeft nog geen uitnodiging ontvangen om aan de reconstructie deel te nemen, mogelijk is al besloten dat het niet doorgaat aangezien het team McCann het nut er niet van inziet maar ze zullen wel moeten, maar de Tapas-vrienden hebben al helemaal geen zin om mee te werken en zonder die laatsten heeft het al helemaal geen nut.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------quote:Murat was not notified to the reconstruction of the alleged kidnap Diário de Notícias
José Manuel Oliveira
27/05/2008 (Thanks to 'Li' from the3arguidos forum for translation)
Robert Murat's lawyer guaranteed yesterday to the DN that he was not notified to participate in the reconstruction requested by the PJ for next Thursday concerning the events of the night of 3rd of May 2007. Nonetheless his client is available since as an arguido, "he will be obliged to present himself to any steps that he is legally notified of", he added.
"Till now I have no information. By now I would already have been notified, believing in the media that the 29th will be the date for the reconstruction" underlined Francisco Pagarete. And he questioned: "Or it will be on another date? And will a reconstruction take place?"
After insisting that "everything is equal" concerning the situation of Robert Murat and that "the Public Prosecutor is the one who knows what he has to do", the lawyer says that it is not strange that the arguido has not been notified to the reconstruction of the night Madeleine disappeared from the room where she allegedly sleep with her siblings, "since he was not in any of those places and the PJ knows that very well", he emphasised.
The big doubts are the friends of Kate and Gerry McCann, since as witnesses they are not obliged to be present and they will only return to Portugal if they want but the reconstruction will only be done if they come since their presence is essential. About the opinion showed by the McCanns that consider the reconstruction as a "useless" step, Pagarete prefers "not to comment". Nonetheless he observed: "I doubt that the Public Prosecutor will do any useless acts". To Murat's lawyer the only thing to do is "to wait for the end of the enquiry" reminding that after the extensions of the deadline since January of this year "I don't know how much longer this will last". "It would be pure speculation if I would advance with any date", he said. Bron
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En dan nog maar eens de vragen op een rijtje gezet, voor het nageslacht, voor als iemand op internet zoekt en opeens blijken veel blogs en fora verdwenen, behalve FOK! natuurlijk, wat zijn de kansen op de volgende stellingen:
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES? (Joana Morais)
Of an abductor entering an apartment through the door and exiting through the window?
Of a child being taken in the only 5 minute window of opportunity when there was nobody checking?
Of an abductor leaving no prints or DNA evidence?
Of an abductor hiding behind a door that opens against a wall?
Of a mother running away from the abduction scene, leaving two two-year olds exposed to the very same abductor?
Of patio doors being left unlocked, yet the parents being adamant that the child had not merely wandered off?
Of the parents staying in the apartment while everyone else searched long into the night for the 'abducted' child?
Of all the children, of all the families, falling asleep at approximately the same time, and of none of them waking up?
Of none of the group wearing watches or having their mobiles with them?
Of not taking your children to the restaurant with you because there was no buggy available?
Of having your wallet, sports bag and your child all taken - all in separate incidents within a few weeks?
Of a mother who said the "abductor" had moved cuddle cat, actually holding it and washing it when it could have had the "abductors" prints or DNA on it?
Of the parents of an abducted child to keep always forgetting to mention the £2m reward for her safe return during their TV appeals?
Of the finger of suspicion being pointed at another by three of the group, until the likeness to one of the group was observed?
Of the parents not sacking a detective agency who endangered the life of their child by announcing her location and her imminent rescue - on two separate occasions?
Of highly-trained forensic cadaver dogs and DNA analysts from the UK being mistaken?
Of a GP coming into contact with 6 dead bodies in the week before the holiday?
Of the GP bringing a "Cuddle Cat" to work with her and it thus acquiring the scent of death?
Of the Portuguese police offering a "deal" for which there is no provision under Portuguese Law?
Of the parents setting up a website within one week, and registering the child's eye defect as a trademark within 2 weeks of her disappearance?
Of innocent parents refusing to help the police by answering their questions and not immediately agreeing to take part in a reconstruction?
The combined police forces of two countries, plus Interpol...
Ex-SAS officers and 30 private detectives...
The backing of several millionaires,
and a £1m 'fighting fund' donated by the public...
A £2.5m reward on offer,
and an unprecedented 'awareness' campaign...
The unstinting support of the entire British media...
The world's best sniffer dogs and forensic scientists...
... and still not a single lead?
Still not a single clue turned up supporting the claim of abduction?
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES?
(many thanks to The Three Arguidos)
by astro
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WHAT ARE THE CHANCES? (Joana Morais)
Of an abductor entering an apartment through the door and exiting through the window?
Of a child being taken in the only 5 minute window of opportunity when there was nobody checking?
Of an abductor leaving no prints or DNA evidence?
Of an abductor hiding behind a door that opens against a wall?
Of a mother running away from the abduction scene, leaving two two-year olds exposed to the very same abductor?
Of patio doors being left unlocked, yet the parents being adamant that the child had not merely wandered off?
Of the parents staying in the apartment while everyone else searched long into the night for the 'abducted' child?
Of all the children, of all the families, falling asleep at approximately the same time, and of none of them waking up?
Of none of the group wearing watches or having their mobiles with them?
Of not taking your children to the restaurant with you because there was no buggy available?
Of having your wallet, sports bag and your child all taken - all in separate incidents within a few weeks?
Of a mother who said the "abductor" had moved cuddle cat, actually holding it and washing it when it could have had the "abductors" prints or DNA on it?
Of the parents of an abducted child to keep always forgetting to mention the £2m reward for her safe return during their TV appeals?
Of the finger of suspicion being pointed at another by three of the group, until the likeness to one of the group was observed?
Of the parents not sacking a detective agency who endangered the life of their child by announcing her location and her imminent rescue - on two separate occasions?
Of highly-trained forensic cadaver dogs and DNA analysts from the UK being mistaken?
Of a GP coming into contact with 6 dead bodies in the week before the holiday?
Of the GP bringing a "Cuddle Cat" to work with her and it thus acquiring the scent of death?
Of the Portuguese police offering a "deal" for which there is no provision under Portuguese Law?
Of the parents setting up a website within one week, and registering the child's eye defect as a trademark within 2 weeks of her disappearance?
Of innocent parents refusing to help the police by answering their questions and not immediately agreeing to take part in a reconstruction?
The combined police forces of two countries, plus Interpol...
Ex-SAS officers and 30 private detectives...
The backing of several millionaires,
and a £1m 'fighting fund' donated by the public...
A £2.5m reward on offer,
and an unprecedented 'awareness' campaign...
The unstinting support of the entire British media...
The world's best sniffer dogs and forensic scientists...
... and still not a single lead?
Still not a single clue turned up supporting the claim of abduction?
WHAT ARE THE CHANCES?
(many thanks to The Three Arguidos)
by astro
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Dat is echt een beetje against all odds als je dat leest, zo achter elkaar opgenoemd. Het is veel waarschijnlijker dat ze is gaan (slaap) wandelen en daar de verkeerde bi is tegengekomen of dat idd haar ouders er meer van weten, wat mijn gevoel is dat weet je zo langzamerhand wel maar dat er iets anders aand ehand is dan een ontvoering moge duidelijk zijn.
Rondje Anorak is ook niet erg geinspireerd vandaag.
http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/184311.htmlquote:Madeleine McCann: Bobby Hands, Cannes And A Hunger For Publicity
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
THE GUARDIAN: Cannes 2008: The final wordBobby Sands – The Movie. Grab the nachos and sit back:
As Leslie Felperin, the excellent reviewer for Variety magazine remarked to me: the newspaper-reading public can’t be persuaded to react in the same way: they care about Madeleine McCann in a serious mood, or in a non-serious mood, they care about Sir Alan Sugar or Simon Cowell. The idea of actually caring about a violent arthouse film investigating the life of Bobby Sands is a very tall order indeed.
Fact and fiction - the story of Madeleine McCann
Rondje Anorak is ook niet erg geinspireerd vandaag.
be nice or go away
Hey, ik struin de sites af en post wat er staat, als ze dan nieuws gaan recyclen is het weer nieuws toch?quote:Op maandag 26 mei 2008 17:53 schreef Suko het volgende:
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Dat had ik ook bijna geplaatst, ik herkende sommige stukjes en zag toen dat het een artikel uit 2007 25th September is, waarom dat in de headlines weer boven komt drijven is mij een raadsel. Tja over die film, het hoeft kennelijk niet allemaal waar te zijn, of feiten kloppen of niet, zolang Madeleine (of zelfs namen die er op lijken) er maar in voorkomt, wat kan het bommen. Volgende maand komtie in de UK, met als speciale gasten die avond de McConns....denk ik.
Ik denk niet dat de McCanns komen opdraven, ze moeten de schijn hoog houden dat Kate een fragiel poppetje is dat niets meer kan hebben, dan kun je ook niet een film over een ontvoerd meisje gaan kijken dat ook nog eens wordt gespeeld door een kindje dat Madeleine heet en in de verte op haar eigen dochter lijkt, alsof van een afstandje niet elke blonde kleuter op de andere lijkt, als Kate en Gerry hun eigen kind echter niet herkennen van welke afstand dan ook dan is er pas iets echt mis.
Als ik m'n achternichtjes een poosje niet heb gezien dan moet ik ook even goed kijken wie wie ook al weer is maar ik kan me niet voorstellen dat dit ook voor hun ouders geld, gewoon stemming maken idd.
be nice or go away
[quote]Op dinsdag 27 mei 2008 12:00 schreef Suko het volgende:
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Uhm, dat is eigenlijk al tig keer gepost Tmaatje, het betreft hier het eerste interview met Kate en Gerry McCann met BBC-verslaggeefster Jane Hill op 25 mei 2007. Hier de volledige tekst (met commentaar van webmaster Nigel tussendoor) van een site met al het nieuws rondom deze tragedie:
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Maar wat verklaarden de McConns op 30 april van dit jaar, uit een artikel in The Times: ""Kate and Gerry McCann tell today how they prayed through the dark, cold night that Madeleine went missing before going out on a desperate dawn search through the deserted streets of Praia da Luz." Uit een eerdere post. Nee, dat is het eerste wat je gaat doen als je kind weg is, de halve nacht bidden! Hou krijgen ze het uit de bek zou je zeggen....
Is dit werkelijk een vertaling van dat interview?
Ik vind de Nederlandse tekst veel kritischer dan de Engelse, kritischer dan alles wat ik tot nu toe gelezen heb.
Inderdaad, iedere moeder gaat toch zoeken naar haar kind maar goed.
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Uhm, dat is eigenlijk al tig keer gepost Tmaatje, het betreft hier het eerste interview met Kate en Gerry McCann met BBC-verslaggeefster Jane Hill op 25 mei 2007. Hier de volledige tekst (met commentaar van webmaster Nigel tussendoor) van een site met al het nieuws rondom deze tragedie:
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Maar wat verklaarden de McConns op 30 april van dit jaar, uit een artikel in The Times: ""Kate and Gerry McCann tell today how they prayed through the dark, cold night that Madeleine went missing before going out on a desperate dawn search through the deserted streets of Praia da Luz." Uit een eerdere post. Nee, dat is het eerste wat je gaat doen als je kind weg is, de halve nacht bidden! Hou krijgen ze het uit de bek zou je zeggen....
Is dit werkelijk een vertaling van dat interview?
Ik vind de Nederlandse tekst veel kritischer dan de Engelse, kritischer dan alles wat ik tot nu toe gelezen heb.
Inderdaad, iedere moeder gaat toch zoeken naar haar kind maar goed.
FOK!'s rode weduwe.
Dat was volgens mij commentaar van een ned journalist/blogger op dat bewuste interview, we denken en het is ook gebleken nav die schadeclaim, dat de Britse pers een soort van kwaadspreekverbod heeft, dankzij de hooggeplaatste vriendjes van de McCanns wellicht? Het is toch vreemd dat de PM Brown vragen heeft gesteld in Portugal over een enkel vermist meisje?quote:Op dinsdag 27 mei 2008 15:49 schreef Tmaatje het volgende:
Is dit werkelijk een vertaling van dat interview?
Ik vind de Nederlandse tekst veel kritischer dan de Engelse, kritischer dan alles wat ik tot nu toe gelezen heb.
Inderdaad, iedere moeder gaat toch zoeken naar haar kind maar goed.
Het is heel opvallend hoe er om de hete brij heengedraaid word en dat er plotseling goedlopende blogs/sites gesloten worden.
Dat een moeder niet op haar knietjes gaat zitten bidden als haar kind weg is moge ook duidelijk zijn, om nog maar te zwijgen over die muur van stilte en onwil om mee te doen aan een reconstructie.
be nice or go away
Nou ja, ik heb een letterlijk transscript geplaatst van dat eerste gegeven interview van Jane Hill met de McCanns en dat lijkt mij meer duidelijk en ook 'dodelijk' naar het publiek toe dat er niet is gezocht, ze waren druk met van alles behalve met zoeken en een jaar later verklaren ze de halve nacht gebeden te hebben. Hoe verknipt kan je zijn.quote:Op dinsdag 27 mei 2008 15:49 schreef Tmaatje het volgende:
[quote]Op dinsdag 27 mei 2008 12:00 schreef Suko het volgende:
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Is dit werkelijk een vertaling van dat interview?
Ik vind de Nederlandse tekst veel kritischer dan de Engelse, kritischer dan alles wat ik tot nu toe gelezen heb.
Inderdaad, iedere moeder gaat toch zoeken naar haar kind maar goed.
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Slecht nieuws, voor wat het waard is natuurlijk, het komt van 24 Horas:
Ja ja, maar de Mobile records van Robert Murat zijn destijds wel nagegaan, how about that! Ik weet niet wat er aan de hand is, wie en wat staat er onder druk, wát is zo belangrijk wat betreft de inhoud van dat telefoonverkeer? Als ze onschuldig zijn, wat is dan te verbergen??? Deze juridische beslissing lijkt me komen van de haarkloverij van die dure advocaten in de UK, zij zitten alleen maar uit te zoeken hóe te voorkomen dat de McCanns zoch moeten verantwoorden. Allemaal mooi en ook hun werk maar daarmee is tevens uitgesloten dat er ooit echt wordt uitgezocht wát er met Madeleine is gebeurd, het allerbelangrijkste dacht ik zo... En verder is het niet toevallig dat dit bericht nú wordt gepubliceerd, de komende reconstructie, overmorgen of de dag daarna, waarvan we nu al weten dat deze natuurlijk niet doorgaat.quote:Judge doesn’t allow reading of the McCanns' SMS 24horas (no online link yet available) (Een meer uitgebreid artikel op de site van Joana Morais)
27/05/2008 (Thanks to 'Luz' from the3arguidos forum for translation)
The PJ wanted to know what was on the written messages exchanged by the McCanns and their friends on the previous and actual day of the disappearance of the little girl
The Public Ministry and the PJ inspectors responsible for Maddie's case are not allowed to read the contents of the cellular messages sent and received by the McCanns in the subsequent moments to the disappearance of the English child.
The access by the PJ to these was refused by the Relation Court of Evora, by an "Acordão" (decision) to which 24horas had access, and where it is invoked the legal guarantees of reserve upon the life privacy and the secrecy of telecommunications.
This is the first judicial decision about the Maddie case to be appreciated by judges on a higher Court.
A few days after Kate and Gerry were heard by the PJ and made arguidos, in September, last year, the General Republic's Prosecutor on Portimão, Magalhães e Menezes, asked the judge of the process to solicitate to the three national mobile telephone operators to send the digital support of the "complete lists of phone traffic for the sent and received calls" referent to 10 mobile numbers, between April 28th and Seotember 9th, 2007.
The listing, according to the prosecutor, should “include the location of the cellular and traceback, as well as the calls in roaming and SMS and MMS messages and its content”.
The analysis of this data would allow the police, at least, to reproduce the tracks of Kate, Gerry and friends that spent their holidays with them at the Ocean Club, in Praia da Luz, in the days immediately prior and following to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
The investigators are particularly curious about the contents of the 18 text messages sent from a cellular phone, not yet identified, to Gerry McCann, between May the 2th and the 4th, 2007, and about all the communications among the group between 20:00h on 3rd of May and 12:00h the next day.
The Judge didn’t authorise
The request presented by Magalhães e Menezes started by being refused by the Instruction Criminal Judge of Portimão Court that, through a dispatch "didn’t authorise the sent of the digital support (CD or DVD) of the contents of any message sent or received by SMS or MMS concerning all the phone numbers".
According to the judge's understanding, this access "would mean to become aware of any phone communication already made without the necessary previous judicial authorisation". This is not allowed in the Portuguese law.
Not conformed, the Public Ministry presented an appeal to the Evora Relation Court in the attempt to open another opportunity: to preserve the "reserve of the intimacy of the private life of the interlocutors" the messages should be first analised by the Instruction Judge that would evaluate it's contents and their possibility of having them used as means of proof".
The Relation decision – Acordão- , signed by the Judge Fernando Ribeiro Cardoso, also sets aside this possibility. "The contents of the messages can only be object of interception on real time, with the necessary judicial authorisation", the document refers, adding, that the simple existence of such registers or tapings would configurate a violation of the law. Bron
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Surprise!!!
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The reenactment of the facts relative to the disappearance of the English child Madeleine McCann, appointed for Thursday and Friday, was cancelled due to the absence of four of the intervenients, informed today the General Procuracy of the Republic (PGR).
According to a note of the PGR, the diligence "won't happen" due to "the previously announced absence" of four friends of the McCanns who spend holidays in the tourist resort of Praia da Luz, Algarve, at the time that the child disappeared, on the 3rd of May of 2007.
Kate and Gerry McCann showed willingness to participate in the reenactment of their daughter's disappearance, but their friends put in question the validity and the proposed model.
"Basically, it's not up to Gerry and Kate [the making of the reenactment] because they are arguidos and, if their presence is requested, they will go, they have to go", guaranteed recently the spokesman of the couple, Clarence Mitchell, to the Lusa News Agency.
"Everything depends on their friends, who were also invited to go but, since they are not arguidos, they have a right of questioning the usefulness of the exercise and whether it will help to find Madeleine - and at this moment the answer seems to be it will not ",he said.
A reenactment of all the steps given by the parents and the friends present at that time was suggested by the Judiciary Police (PJ) about a month ago, first through the McCann's lawyers and then through individual notifications.
Source: Lusa
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Joana Morais meldt verder over het cancelen van de reconstructie:
Wat een bull allemaal. Ik mag hopen dat PM Gordon Brown en z'n vriendjes (hij is al vet uit de gratie gelukkig) gauw van het toneel verdwijnen, want hij heeft mede een rol gespeeld bij het traineren (bepaalde mensen in Portugal onder druk gezet) van het onderzoek. Niet dat het nu nog zal helpen, maar geeft een zekere genoegdoening aan mensen die zich intens met de zaak hebben bezig gehouden in zowel Engeland alswel Portugal. Op zoek naar waarheden, op zoek wat er werkelijk is gebeurd met Madeleine McCann op die fatale avond in Praia da Luz. Iets wat journalisten in de UK ernstig hebben verzuimd...
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Note: The request in order for the McCanns and the 7 friends to be present in the reconstitution was done in the rogatory letters sent, some months ago, to the United Kingdom. In those documents the diligence was explained and it was guaranteed to all that the expenses would be «in charge of the Portuguese State».quote:A Police source connected with the investigation told to Expresso that they were not aware of the PGR's dispatch, however he denied that the cancellation was a surprise. The same source showed interest again in staging the day of the crime, but said that the next step is up to the Public Ministry: "The PJ will speak with the Public Ministry, to know if they'll advance with the accusation or not and if it is really essential to do the reconstitution at all", he guaranteed.
Remember that the Judiciary Police had already admitted that the reenactment would only make sense with the presence of all the witnesses, as well as of the couple McCann. In declarations to the Expresso, the police source admitted at the time the PJ could be facing a "game of push" in which the witnesses, would coordinate their periods of unavailability in order to annul the possibility of doing the reenactment with everyone present, as requested by the PJ.
Source: Expresso
Wat een bull allemaal. Ik mag hopen dat PM Gordon Brown en z'n vriendjes (hij is al vet uit de gratie gelukkig) gauw van het toneel verdwijnen, want hij heeft mede een rol gespeeld bij het traineren (bepaalde mensen in Portugal onder druk gezet) van het onderzoek. Niet dat het nu nog zal helpen, maar geeft een zekere genoegdoening aan mensen die zich intens met de zaak hebben bezig gehouden in zowel Engeland alswel Portugal. Op zoek naar waarheden, op zoek wat er werkelijk is gebeurd met Madeleine McCann op die fatale avond in Praia da Luz. Iets wat journalisten in de UK ernstig hebben verzuimd...
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Suko, het stuk bewijst wel dat jullie niet alleen staan met je twijfels..., dus hou vol.. 
FOK!'s rode weduwe.
Tmaatje, ik vermoed dat hele volksstammen wel weten dat de McCanns schuldig zijn aan op z'n minst neglect en als gevolg daarvan dat Madeleine niet meer leeft, ik ga al zover dat ze zelf schuldig zijn aan de dood van Madeleine, met of zonder behulp van die vrienden of een aantal, al of niet met opzet.quote:Op dinsdag 27 mei 2008 20:50 schreef Tmaatje het volgende:
Suko, het stuk bewijst wel dat jullie niet alleen staan met je twijfels..., dus hou vol..
Anyway, Sky News komt als eerste Britse krant met de canceling van de reconstructie: Breaking News
Madeleine Reconstruction Abandoned
Updated:20:28, Tuesday May 27, 2008
"Portuguese police have abandoned plans for a reconstruction of the events surrounding the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, say Sky sources. It is understood that the event planned for later this week has been cancelled because several members of the so-called "Tapas Seven" are unable to be there. Sky's Martin Brunt said: "It has been reported in Portugal that the attorney general's office has announced that the reconstruction, which was planned for Thursday and Friday this week, is not going to go ahead now." "The reason given is that four of the Tapas Seven, for one reason or another, are not able to be there."
It is the second time it has been put off and Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, have always been reluctant to take part. Brunt explained: " It was only a request from the Portuguese police, not a demand.
"The McCanns felt that many months ago their own suggestion of a reconstruction had been turned down."They felt that there would only be a good reason to hold such a reconstruction if it was used as a widely televised appeal for help and information."
Nonsens, de McConns wilde er een soort CrimeWatch-event van maken wat natuurlijk betekende dat ze zelf buiten schot bleven. Opzouten Brunt!
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[ Bericht 3% gewijzigd door Suko op 27-05-2008 21:48:14 (Inmiddels compleet artikel)) ]
En de telegraph meldt, ook zo'n 'fijne objectieve nieuwsgierige onderzoekende' Britse krant:
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Ach ja, zo jammer dat de McScams niet als hoofdrolspelers in de spotlight 'mogen' komen om snikkend de hele wereld wéér te smeken naar Madeleine uit te kijken en vooral het nummer van Metodo 3 te bellen....etc etc etc.quote:Kate and Gerry McCann will not return to Portugal for Madeleine reconstruction Telegraph
Kate and Gerry McCann have decided not to return to Portugal to take part in a reconstruction of events on the night Madeleine went missing.
By Caroline Gammell Last Updated: 7:18PM BST 27/05/2008 (bron)
The couple believe a re-enactment will do "absolutely nothing" to help find their daughter, who was three when she vanished from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007. Mr and Mrs McCann, who are arguidos or suspects in their daughter's disappearance, had been asked by Portuguese police to return to the Algarve along with the seven friends on holiday with them at the time.
Detectives wanted to stage a reconstruction at the Ocean Club complex where the McCanns were dining, leaving Madeleine and her younger siblings in the unlocked apartment nearby. But the couple, from Rothley in Leicestershire, have decided not to go back.
A source close to the McCanns said: "There are no plans for Kate and Gerry and their friends to return to Portugal. They have all indicated their intentions to the police. "The reconstruction will only take place if Kate and Gerry and their friends agree to take part. If they don’t agree it will not happen.
"Kate and Gerry have had grave reservations about the value of it. If the reconstruction was going to help Madeleine, nothing in the world would stop them taking part. "But Kate and Gerry and their friends cannot see the point of all the disruption it would cause to their busy work schedules and families if, as they believe, it will do absolutely nothing to help find Madeleine."
The couple's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said yesterday: "Kate and Gerry and their friends remain committed to doing anything to help find Madeleine. "I don’t want to comment on what they have told police but, if they do not return to Portugal, it is because they feel it offers no value and no assistance in finding Madeleine."
Mr Mitchell said that if the reconstruction was televised with the chance of bringing in new leads the McCanns and their friends would agree to do it. He went on: "They would welcome a Crimewatch-style reconstruction which is properly broadcast for millions of people to see and could generate important new leads and fresh information." But Portuguese police said they did not want the reconstruction to be filmed.
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Laat ik vandaag ook maar beginnen met Anorak, terecht wordt opgemerkt dat het afblazen van de reconstructie geen voorpagina-nieuws is, naar mijn mening omdat het té pijnlijk is en slechte publiciteit voor de McConns, tussendoor commentaar van Anorak zelf:
Ik zeg het nog maar een keer: "Als ze er geen voordeel van inzien om mee te doen aan de reconstructie dan zijn ze ook niet nieuwsgierig naar de omstandigheden waaronder Madeleine kón verdwijnen. Ik bedoel, het publiek wordt na al die tijd toch ook nog steeds opgeroepen om naar Madeleine uit te kijken? Dan kan op z'n minst een reconstructie na een jaar best plaatsvinden, kan zomaar een herinnering (bij wie dan ook) oproepen die ergens nog verstopt zat, waarheidsvinding, óók voor de betrokkenen, áls ze echt onschuldig zijn... Misschien zijn ze wel bang dat getuigen aldaar iemand herkennen uit de groep McCann, op tijdstippen toen, op die bewuste avond, scary...
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En Clarence Mitchell op de BBC: "Police had invited Kate and Gerry McCann back to Praia de Luz, Portugal, along with the so-called Tapas Seven. But the friends had "serious questions" about the value of the reconstruction, Mr and Mrs McCann's spokesman said. Spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the McCanns had not refused to go back but had been aware of their friends' views and were not now needed by the police." Net op BBC-Breakfast kwam duidelijk naar voren dat de schuld bij de Tapas 7 werd gelegd voor het cancelen van de reconstructie. Wat natuurlijk onzin is, als de McConns wel waren gegaan waren die vrienden zeker ook gegaan. Het is duidelijk wie hier de touwtjes in handen heeft/hebben.quote:No front–page coverage of Madeleine McCann today, folks. But she remains a regular feature of the UK press, like horoscopes, the TV guide or Victoria Beckham’s skin.DAILY MIRROR: “Tapas 7: We won’t go back”
It’s the Mirror’s “MADELEINE EXCLUSIVE”. The news is – as Anorak reported last night – that the Tapas Seven (surely the Sangria 7? –Ed) will not be returning to Portugal to take part in a reconstruction of the night Madeleine went missing.
A source says: “They were asked informally to return, then asked again in an official letter last week. After some consideration they decided not to go back. They were concerned it would not be televised, and were bemused as to why it was happening so long after Madeleine disappeared.”
And who would play Madeleine? Her? Her? What about “Look Into My Eyes”, a TV talent show search for a Madeleine fronted by Trevor McDonald and GMTV?
Remember Kelsey: “Mummy, I could play Madeleine. I look just like her’”?
THE SUN: “No re-run for Maddie cops”
What does Lorraine Kelly think? It was she who said:
How could someone put their infant child forward as a Madeleine lookalike with the idea of making money? The child obviously has to be around the same age as Madeleine.
Is a Madeleine needed? After all, she is missing…
Unless it was to specifically aid the campaign, how could they all live with themselves for making money out of the tragic disappearance of a little girl?
It makes you recoil to think a lookalike agency would have a Madeleine on their books alongside someone who looks like Jack Nicholson or Paris Hilton.
Disgusting! To think that Maddy should be with the likes of Jack the lads or Hilton makes our flesh turn cold. It’s nothing less than sick.
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine reconstruction scrapped after ’suspicious’ McCanns refuse to return to Portugal to take part”
The Mail has the details: The McCanns are “both doctors.”
Says a Source: “They also question why it was not to be televised and why police just want the nine and not other holidaymakers and staff to take part.”
GLASGOW DAILY RECORD: Says Clarence Mitchell:
“The friends had a number of serious questions about the value of the reconstruction and what it would do to help find Madeleine. After some discussion, they have informed the Portuguese authorities they do not intend to go back.
“Gerry and Kate have not refused to go back. They were aware of their friends’ view and they are now not needed for the reconstruction. There were a number of serious questions. For instance, why did they want to hold a reconstruction more than a year after the event?
“Why was the reconstruction not to be televised? That would have generated new leads and information but if it is not televised, how on earth is that going to help find Madeleine? Why did they only want the nine people back? Why didn’t they ask all the other holidaymakers back?
“Frankly, the police and the authorities in Portugal did not answer the simple question: what will this do to help find Madeleine?”
Do the police have to televise their police work to make it valid?
Madeleine McCann TV: are you sitting comfortably?
Ik zeg het nog maar een keer: "Als ze er geen voordeel van inzien om mee te doen aan de reconstructie dan zijn ze ook niet nieuwsgierig naar de omstandigheden waaronder Madeleine kón verdwijnen. Ik bedoel, het publiek wordt na al die tijd toch ook nog steeds opgeroepen om naar Madeleine uit te kijken? Dan kan op z'n minst een reconstructie na een jaar best plaatsvinden, kan zomaar een herinnering (bij wie dan ook) oproepen die ergens nog verstopt zat, waarheidsvinding, óók voor de betrokkenen, áls ze echt onschuldig zijn... Misschien zijn ze wel bang dat getuigen aldaar iemand herkennen uit de groep McCann, op tijdstippen toen, op die bewuste avond, scary...
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Joana Morais én (met de nick xklamation) op het 3arguidoforum:
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Ook een gedachte die mij zeer aansprak, de Site Admin bjr van het 3aguidoforum:quote:Correio da Manhã : Public Prosecutor assumes the Murder Hypothesis
Case near to conclusion
Dispatch - McCanns arguidos by murder, abandonment and cadaver concealment.
It's the first Judicial dispatch not covered by the secrecy of justice which assumes that the investigation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has suspicions of the crimes of murder, exposition, abandonment and hiding the cadaver.
Not on-line yet
quote:I am sorry I don't care if Gerry goes to work, Kate has highlights and the whole tapas group meet up and have a burger at McDonalds. I am not interested in what they do, they have proven their worth to me by not agreeing and going to the reconstruction.
I feel the PJ have played a clever one here, they have shown them up for what they really are, now if they decide to get heavy handed and come over and arrest the lot, the public will be on the side of Justice. Because they have seen first hand that this group of people have no interest whatsoever in helping to find Madeleine. If they had any interest and if they really had nothing to hide, they would have been there, back in Portugal doing the reconstruction, at the first date the PJ ever mentioned.
Also remember this reconstruction has already been played out with officers using their statements, yes the statements that each and everyone of them gave, and the pieces did not fit. They gave them a chance to return to clarify why the pieces didn't fit, they refused to go so on their own heads be it.
The game has just begun, but nothing in this world will make anybody with an ounce of common sense still think this lot are innocent. They have proved to the UK and the world that it has never been about Madeleine it has always been about them.
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Goedemorgen, 
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Suko, je bent lekker bezig, leuk om te zien dat zelfs de pers dit niet op de voorpagina wil zetten, dit is idd geen goede reclame voor de McConns.
Het is echt hun eigen keus om die inconsistancies niet op te helderen, hun verklaringen kloppen niet en dus kon de PJ geen bevredigende reconstructie doen, als ze dan niet willen dan is het gewoon eigen schuld als er iets van komt.
Ik denk dat ze zo willen voorkomen dat ze opgepakt gaan worden als ze ook maar 1 voet binnen Portugal zetten, immers de neglect zaak staat nog gewoon, ik zat echter eens te denken, als ze de arguido status betreffende haar verdwijning opheffen dan zegt dat toch niets over die neglect zaak? Ze kunnen dat in theorie gewoon weer op nieuw gearresteerd worden en verdachte gemaakt worden voor die andere aanklacht, namelijk verwaarlozing? Of zit ik nu raar te denken?
Het rondje Anorak van vandaag, let vooral eens op de commentaren:
Hopelijk is wat die persoon in jouw link van het 3Arguido-forum een juiste voorspelling, laat de PJ dit maar opvatten als teken van schuld, ze hebben de kans gehad om alles op te helderen.
.Suko, je bent lekker bezig, leuk om te zien dat zelfs de pers dit niet op de voorpagina wil zetten, dit is idd geen goede reclame voor de McConns.
Het is echt hun eigen keus om die inconsistancies niet op te helderen, hun verklaringen kloppen niet en dus kon de PJ geen bevredigende reconstructie doen, als ze dan niet willen dan is het gewoon eigen schuld als er iets van komt.
Ik denk dat ze zo willen voorkomen dat ze opgepakt gaan worden als ze ook maar 1 voet binnen Portugal zetten, immers de neglect zaak staat nog gewoon, ik zat echter eens te denken, als ze de arguido status betreffende haar verdwijning opheffen dan zegt dat toch niets over die neglect zaak? Ze kunnen dat in theorie gewoon weer op nieuw gearresteerd worden en verdachte gemaakt worden voor die andere aanklacht, namelijk verwaarlozing? Of zit ik nu raar te denken?
Het rondje Anorak van vandaag, let vooral eens op de commentaren:
Goh, en hoe komt het nu dat het onderzoek zo traag verloopt? Remember the rogatory letters? Wie hebben er successievelijk onwaarheden verteld en dingen lopen verzinnen? Wie heeft er meteen de pers ingelicht met alle details zelfs over haar oog, iets wat ten zeerste was afgeraden? Wie zijn er gedurende het onderzoek ineens naar GB vertrokken? Wie hebben er hooggeplaatste vriendjes ingeschakeld om (excusez le mot) hun konten schoon te praten?quote:Madeleine McCann: No Portugal Return, Maddy TV And Paris Hilton
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
No front–page coverage of Madeleine McCann today, folks. But she remains a regular feature of the UK press, like horoscopes, the TV guide or Victoria Beckham’s skin.DAILY MIRROR: “Tapas 7: We won’t go back”
It’s the Mirror’s “MADELEINE EXCLUSIVE”. The news is – as Anorak reported last night – that the Tapas Seven (surely the Sangria 7? –Ed) will not be returning to Portugal to take part in a reconstruction of the night Madeleine went missing.
A source says: “They were asked informally to return, then asked again in an official letter last week. After some consideration they decided not to go back. They were concerned it would not be televised, and were bemused as to why it was happening so long after Madeleine disappeared.”
And who would play Madeleine? Her? Her? What about “Look Into My Eyes”, a TV talent show search for a Madeleine fronted by Trevor McDonald and GMTV?
Remember Kelsey: “Mummy, I could play Madeleine. I look just like her’”?
THE SUN: “No re-run for Maddie cops”
What does Lorraine Kelly think? It was she who said:
How could someone put their infant child forward as a Madeleine lookalike with the idea of making money? The child obviously has to be around the same age as Madeleine.
Is a Madeleine needed? After all, she is missing…
Unless it was to specifically aid the campaign, how could they all live with themselves for making money out of the tragic disappearance of a little girl?
It makes you recoil to think a lookalike agency would have a Madeleine on their books alongside someone who looks like Jack Nicholson or Paris Hilton.
Disgusting! To think that Maddy should be with the likes of Jack the lads or Hilton makes our flesh turn cold. It’s nothing less than sick.
DAILY MAIL: “Madeleine reconstruction scrapped after ’suspicious’ McCanns refuse to return to Portugal to take part”
The Mail has the details: The McCanns are “both doctors.”
Says a Source: “They also question why it was not to be televised and why police just want the nine and not other holidaymakers and staff to take part.”
GLASGOW DAILY RECORD: Says Clarence Mitchell:
“The friends had a number of serious questions about the value of the reconstruction and what it would do to help find Madeleine. After some discussion, they have informed the Portuguese authorities they do not intend to go back.
“Gerry and Kate have not refused to go back. They were aware of their friends’ view and they are now not needed for the reconstruction. There were a number of serious questions. For instance, why did they want to hold a reconstruction more than a year after the event?
“Why was the reconstruction not to be televised? That would have generated new leads and information but if it is not televised, how on earth is that going to help find Madeleine? Why did they only want the nine people back? Why didn’t they ask all the other holidaymakers back?
“Frankly, the police and the authorities in Portugal did not answer the simple question: what will this do to help find Madeleine?”
Do the police have to televise their police work to make it valid?
Madeleine McCann TV: are you sitting comfortably?
Hopelijk is wat die persoon in jouw link van het 3Arguido-forum een juiste voorspelling, laat de PJ dit maar opvatten als teken van schuld, ze hebben de kans gehad om alles op te helderen.
be nice or go away
Hoi, collega-poster Kahaarin! Goh, daar zeg je me wat qua arguido-status opheffen ivm de verdwijning van Madeleine en dan alsnog in de boeien slaan aangaande neglect... Not sure, maar ze zijn arguido verklaard omdat ze geen vragen meer wensten te beantwoorden, iets wat je in eerste instantie wél moet als getuigen. Je kunt trouwens je zelf ook arguido verklaren, gek genoeg. Of dat kan worden teruggedraaid, ik denk 't niet. Eerst nog een zooi antwoorden geven en dan volgt er mogelijk een rechtszaak áls er reden is tot vervolging. Opmerkelijk blijft dus dat de McConns onlangs niet zijn verhoord in de UK, mogelijk was dat niet meer nodig en heeft de PJ genoeg bewijs tegen het stel, en waren alleen de statements van de Tapas 7 noodzakelijk. Dat die verhoren zolang op zich lieten wachten was niet alleen dus de schuld van het Britse Home Office maar mogelijk moest er tijd worden ingeruimd zodat de vrienden tot aan de komma konden repeteren wát ze hebben verklaard in Praia da Luz, iets wat ze zeker op papier hebben staan. Een paar foutjes en ze waren waarschijnlijk ook arguido gemaakt, wegens tegenwerking van de rechtsgang oid...Vandaar de reconstructie, klaarblijkelijk kán het niet kloppen wat ze als timeline hebben opgegeven. Maar verder snap ik de ballen van die Portugese wetten hoor...quote:Op woensdag 28 mei 2008 11:41 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Goedemorgen,
Suko, je bent lekker bezig, leuk om te zien dat zelfs de pers dit niet op de voorpagina wil zetten, dit is idd geen goede reclame voor de McConns.
Het is echt hun eigen keus om die inconsistancies niet op te helderen, hun verklaringen kloppen niet en dus kon de PJ geen bevredigende reconstructie doen, als ze dan niet willen dan is het gewoon eigen schuld als er iets van komt.
Ik denk dat ze zo willen voorkomen dat ze opgepakt gaan worden als ze ook maar 1 voet binnen Portugal zetten, immers de neglect zaak staat nog gewoon, ik zat echter eens te denken, als ze de arguido status betreffende haar verdwijning opheffen dan zegt dat toch niets over die neglect zaak? Ze kunnen dat in theorie gewoon weer op nieuw gearresteerd worden en verdachte gemaakt worden voor die andere aanklacht, namelijk verwaarlozing? Of zit ik nu raar te denken?
Het rondje Anorak van vandaag, let vooral eens op de commentaren:
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Goh, en hoe komt het nu dat het onderzoek zo traag verloopt? Remember the rogatory letters? Wie hebben er successievelijk onwaarheden verteld en dingen lopen verzinnen? Wie heeft er meteen de pers ingelicht met alle details zelfs over haar oog, iets wat ten zeerste was afgeraden? Wie zijn er gedurende het onderzoek ineens naar GB vertrokken? Wie hebben er hooggeplaatste vriendjes ingeschakeld om (excusez le mot) hun konten schoon te praten?
Hopelijk is wat die persoon in jouw link van het 3Arguido-forum een juiste voorspelling, laat de PJ dit maar opvatten als teken van schuld, ze hebben de kans gehad om alles op te helderen.
Wat betreft die eerdere constructie in oktober 2007 waar Site Admin bjr het over heeft, op dit Blog wordt een en ander verklaard:
Overigens zeggen die vrienden én de McConns dat ze ook andere getuigen hadden willen zien tijdens de reconstructie, ik had al geopperd dat ergens gelezen te hebben dat er zeker wél meerdere getuigen zouden zijn en ja hoor, if true of course, The Times April 8, 2008:quote:A reconstruction has already been done.
It was in a certain silence, even a certain indifference that the first reconstruction was done in October 2007. A reconstruction, in criminal language, means bringing back together all the elements and players in the case and putting them back into the circumstances of the crime or offence, allowing a complete view of the events. This is not possible on paper, where many of the details would not be clear enough. Thus a reconstruction allows the details to be revealed more clearly. Now, a first reconstruction has already been done last October with all the elements and the people present in Praia da Luz on May 3rd between 18.30 and 22.40. Only the principal players were not present. It was valuable. In fact, now the PJ has a clear view of what happened or rather of, "who did what," and above all, "where and at what time," precisely."
Perhaps the Public Prosecutor will be willing to allow the PJ to proceed with the case based on what was discovered during this previous reconstruction in October 2007. When the PJ state that the planned reconstruction with the principal, "players," Kate and Gerry and friends, would allow them to compare the points of view of witnesses and suspect, perhaps this is where the comparison would be made, between details gleaned from witnesses in the previous re-enactment, and that including the Tapas Nine.
So, what now? The McCanns are still official suspects in the enquiry and the PJ consider the reconstruction to be necessary. Four of those who were present on the evening of Madeleine's disappearance are unable to attend and participate in a reconstruction. You'd think the McCanns, who vowed to, "leave no stone unturned," in the search for their child, would be begging their friends to participate in anything which might have the remotest chance of helping to discover what had happened to that child. I don't think I'd be ready to accept, "Sorry, I can't make it," if this had been my child.
The McCanns were made arguidos and departed pretty sharpish on the next available plane, promising to returns when requested to do so by the PJ, the Tapas seven have stated that they would be willing to help in any way, yet none of them look as though they making any great shakes to get their asses over there to the Algarve. Public opinion turning against the McCanns? That seems to have happened quite some time ago and, in my opinion, the only way to restore some of that would be to book a flight to Portugal and to do their best to persuade their friends to accompany them. What could possibly be more important than participating in something which may help to resolve the disappearance of a very young child, however useless they might think it is?
quote:"Madeleine McCann’s parents, family friends and other holiday-makers have been called back to Portugal to participate in a reconstruction of the night she disappeared, Times Online has learnt. Detectives want to replicate the events at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on the evening when Kate and Gerry McCann reported their eldest daughter had been abducted. They have asked dozens of people to attend the event after the completion of a series of interviews with key witnesses which started today."
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Met commentaar van Astro zelf:quote:In Correio da Manhã this morning:
Ruling: McCanns arguidos over death, abandonment and concealment of a cadaver
Public Ministry assumes suspicions of homicide
This is the first judiciary dispatch that is not covered by the judicial secrecy, that assumes that the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann contains the suspicions of crimes of homicide, exposure, abandonment and concealment of a cadaver.
Those were the criminal indices that were imputed to Gerry and Kate and over which they were made arguidos. The ruling, dated April 29, and emitted by the Relation Court of Évora, concerns the Public Ministry’s request to gain access to the SMS and MMS messages that were sent and received over ten different telephone numbers, before and after the disappearance of the English girl.
The judge said no, and the superior judges have confirmed the decision that had been made by the First Instance at the Portimão Court, that the PJ would only have been able to access those elements if they had requested real time listening operations. This means that for the text messages that were sent and received before the 3rd of May, the authorities should have requested that type of operation to collect evidence even before the child disappeared.
According to the ruling, the PJ and the Public Ministry had requested the three national mobile phone operators (TMN, Vodafone and Optimus) to send them, on a digital medium (CD or DVD), the complete listings of the telephone traffic of calls that were made and received during the period of time that is comprehended between the 28th of April, 2007, and the 9th of September, 2007.
They also wanted the cellular positioning of the devices and the trace-backs (which allow for the devices to be localized, and to be included into a certain radius during precise time periods), as well as the roaming calls.
The authorities have supplied the judge with ten telephone numbers that should be verified, and also requested another number to be identified. From that number, Gerry had received 14 text messages and another four messages on the day that followed Madeleine’s disappearance, the contents of which the investigators wanted to know. The judge has not accepted the request.
Fundamental forensic evidence
The arrival of the first forensic results was fundamental for the turnaround in the investigation. It was based on that initial data from the English laboratory that the investigators constituted the McCanns as arguidos. The parents stopped being victims and became suspects, in a climate of great tension. The report that stated that the residues that were found in the car that was driven by the couple, matched the genetic profile of the English girl, was important. But the data was not determinant.
Gonçalo Amaral spoke about death
Gonçalo Amaral, the coordinator of the Polícia Judiciária in Portimão, who was in charge of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine, has always defended the thesis that the little girl died on the 3rd of May. The investigator, who has in the meantime distanced himself from the police force and now prepares to write a book, believed that the child died on the evening of the disappearance, in a domestic accident, and that her family proceeded to conceal the cadaver. In his book, he promises to divulge details from the process that are still not known.
Investigation runs into the reconstitution
The reconstitution of the moments that preceded the disappearance of Maddie, on the 3rd of May, 2007, is not going to take place anymore.
The diligence was scheduled for tomorrow and Friday, but the announced absence of four friends of the McCann couple, whom were on holidays in Praia da Luz in May last year, has prompted the Republic’s General Prosecutor Office to cancel the reconstitution.
The diligence was ‘annulled’, the PGR [General Prosecutor’s Office] has confirmed in a note. It is recalled that Kate and Gerry showed themselves available to take part in the reconstitution of the disappearance of their daughter Maddie, but their friends questioned its validity and the procedure that had been proposed.
According to what the spokesman told Lusa, ‘it is not for Gerry and Kate McCann the fulfilling of the reconstitution because they are arguidos, and if their presence is requested, they will go, they have to’.
Clarence Mitchell ‘blames’ the friends, whom he understands to have ‘the right to question the utility of the exercise, and whether it’s going to help to find Madeleine McCann: the answer at the moment seems to be no’.
Prosecutors with different understandings
The prosecutor at the first instance and the one at the Relation Court have different understandings. The first one asked for access to the messages. The second one, a joint general prosecutor, defended the pure and simple uselessness of the appeal. The panel of judges confirmed his ruling.
(...) Bron Astro
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The fact that the McCanns are arguidos in the process, does not necessarily or immediately tie them to any accusations whatsoever. I think it can hardly be argued that they are suspected of the abduction of their own daughter, as well as it can hardly be argued that a potential abductor would be accused with abandoning the child.
Therefore, and while not daring to tell anyone what to think, I do urge you to take this into consideration, before you jump to conclusions after reading this article. As usual, the fact that I translated and posted the article, does not mean that I endorse its contents in any manner.
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Ook The Times komt met een versie van het bovenstaand verhaal, waarom de McConns toen arguido's zijn verklaard en waarop het onderzoek zich richt "The first published court ruling on the Madeleine case confirms that the police inquiry covers homicide, abandonment, concealment of a corpse and abduction."
Clarence Mitchell reageerde als volgt: "We are pleased to see that the investigation covers abduction. Kate and Gerry have had legal advice in both Portugal and Britain which say that everything they did was within the boundaries of reasonable behaviour.” He said that Mr McCann had no knowledge of the texts referred to on May 3 and 4 and had received only a few calls on his mobile in the six days the family had been in Portugal prior to Madeleine disappearance."
Niet te geloven, ze zijn blij dat ook ontvoering wordt genoemd, (de rest telt niet...) dat hoeft de McConns zelf als daders natuurlijk niet uit te sluiten en de rest watie zegt... Er zijn ladingen foto's met Kate en vooral Gerry in Praia da Luz waarbij de mobile zowat aan het oor is vastgeplakt. Afijn, het is 'verheugend' dat The Times meer op de zaak zelf ingaat en ook het transscript publiceert waarom er geen gebruik kan worden gemaakt van de Mobile records, helaas... Gisteren al bekend gemaakt in 24 Horas. Zie ook de reacties op het 3arguidoforum.
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[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Suko op 28-05-2008 23:48:55 (typo) ]
Clarence Mitchell reageerde als volgt: "We are pleased to see that the investigation covers abduction. Kate and Gerry have had legal advice in both Portugal and Britain which say that everything they did was within the boundaries of reasonable behaviour.” He said that Mr McCann had no knowledge of the texts referred to on May 3 and 4 and had received only a few calls on his mobile in the six days the family had been in Portugal prior to Madeleine disappearance."
Niet te geloven, ze zijn blij dat ook ontvoering wordt genoemd, (de rest telt niet...) dat hoeft de McConns zelf als daders natuurlijk niet uit te sluiten en de rest watie zegt...
Er zijn ladingen foto's met Kate en vooral Gerry in Praia da Luz waarbij de mobile zowat aan het oor is vastgeplakt. Afijn, het is 'verheugend' dat The Times meer op de zaak zelf ingaat en ook het transscript publiceert waarom er geen gebruik kan worden gemaakt van de Mobile records, helaas... Gisteren al bekend gemaakt in 24 Horas. Zie ook de reacties op het 3arguidoforum.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Suko op 28-05-2008 23:48:55 (typo) ]
Een artikel in 24 Horas beschrijft wie van de Tapas 7 weigerden aan de reconstructie mee te doen: "Amongst the motives for the refusal, the 24 Horas discovered that it was the fact that Jane Tanner, Russel O'Brien, Rachel and Matthew Oldfield were afraid of being constituted as arguidos." Bron Joana Morais.
Allemaal goed en wel, blijft een feit de McCanns weigerden af te reizen, iets wat ze aldoor hebben laten weten, alleen als de status van formeel verdachten (Arguido) wordt opgeheven waren ze er toe bereid waar naderhand de wens van een CirmeWatch-event werd toegevoegd. Ik geloof er dus niks van dat de schuld bij alleen die vrienden moet worden gelegd. Het is spin die al maanden aan de gang is. Ze gaan voor neglect als dat de enige kans is om jarenlange procedures aan te gaan, ook dat hebben we al tijden kunnen lezen. De rest is bollocks, afleidings-tactieken etc. etc. Nou weet ik niet of die 'weigerachtige' Tapas-luitje in de UK ook vanuit Portugal Arguido verklaard kunnen worden, maakt ook niet uit, dan hebben ze zwijgrecht en is van enige medewerking ook door hen uitgesloten. IMO is de zaak behoorlijk dichtgetimmerd, ondanks dat er mogelijk bewijs te over is.
Ook een poster op het 3arguidoforum meldt iets in die richting:
Ook Anorak kopt kranten die eigenlijk (zoals verwacht) alleen gaan over neglect, daaraan is ook al af te lezen dat de copieermachine van Mitchell overuren maakt. En zeiken over die Mobile phone records is makkelijk he, kunnen we toch niet inzien. Allemaal bull!
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Allemaal goed en wel, blijft een feit de McCanns weigerden af te reizen, iets wat ze aldoor hebben laten weten, alleen als de status van formeel verdachten (Arguido) wordt opgeheven waren ze er toe bereid waar naderhand de wens van een CirmeWatch-event werd toegevoegd. Ik geloof er dus niks van dat de schuld bij alleen die vrienden moet worden gelegd. Het is spin die al maanden aan de gang is. Ze gaan voor neglect als dat de enige kans is om jarenlange procedures aan te gaan, ook dat hebben we al tijden kunnen lezen. De rest is bollocks, afleidings-tactieken etc. etc. Nou weet ik niet of die 'weigerachtige' Tapas-luitje in de UK ook vanuit Portugal Arguido verklaard kunnen worden, maakt ook niet uit, dan hebben ze zwijgrecht en is van enige medewerking ook door hen uitgesloten. IMO is de zaak behoorlijk dichtgetimmerd, ondanks dat er mogelijk bewijs te over is.
Ook een poster op het 3arguidoforum meldt iets in die richting:
Waarop vervolgens iemand schrijft:quote:"A regular feature of this whole case is that we often get very worked up about an issue that distracts us from the real one. Usually it's something that Clarence has orchestrated (although more likely, one of Kennedy's team.)
We are all working ourselves into a state of great annoyance about the Tapas7. Or rather, 4 of them, who capsized the reconstruction. The reason the reconstruction didn't happen is because the McCanns had no intention of going.
Whether 4 of the friends explicitly said they would not go, or someone did so on their behalf (which I think is more likely), the bottom line remains that it was decision of the McCanns not to go. And they are the ones we should be angry about. I can think of a number of relatively innocent reasons why the friends didn't want to go. There is no innocent reason why the McCanns did not. So forget the friends until we know more. The McCanns should be in our principal line of fire.
quote:"You are of course totally right. We all knew the MuckScammers would never return to Portugal. What better than once again to blame someone else, de rigeur for the McCanestons:
Mr Gerry: "Oh we'd have gone but RO'B was having his head bleached, Fiona was having a nose transplant, Manpilly was down at the Deed Poll office trying to register a sensible name and David was busy marketting his Spot the Difference Between Me and Murat on a Dark Night in Luz rubber masks".
Ook Anorak kopt kranten die eigenlijk (zoals verwacht) alleen gaan over neglect, daaraan is ook al af te lezen dat de copieermachine van Mitchell overuren maakt. En zeiken over die Mobile phone records is makkelijk he, kunnen we toch niet inzien. Allemaal bull!
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Volgens mij knijpt Mitchell hem een beetje, hij is iets te hard aan het ontkennen, dat hebik hem nog niet eerder zien/horen doen op deze manier.quote:Op donderdag 29 mei 2008 10:18 schreef Suko het volgende:
Een artikel in 24 Horas beschrijft wie van de Tapas 7 weigerden aan de reconstructie mee te doen: "Amongst the motives for the refusal, the 24 Horas discovered that it was the fact that Jane Tanner, Russel O'Brien, Rachel and Matthew Oldfield were afraid of being constituted as arguidos." Bron Joana Morais.
Allemaal goed en wel, blijft een feit de McCanns weigerden af te reizen, iets wat ze aldoor hebben laten weten, alleen als de status van formeel verdachten (Arguido) wordt opgeheven waren ze er toe bereid waar naderhand de wens van een CirmeWatch-event werd toegevoegd. Ik geloof er dus niks van dat de schuld bij alleen die vrienden moet worden gelegd. Het is spin die al maanden aan de gang is. Ze gaan voor neglect als dat de enige kans is om jarenlange procedures aan te gaan, ook dat hebben we al tijden kunnen lezen. De rest is bollocks, afleidings-tactieken etc. etc. Nou weet ik niet of die 'weigerachtige' Tapas-luitje in de UK ook vanuit Portugal Arguido verklaard kunnen worden, maakt ook niet uit, dan hebben ze zwijgrecht en is van enige medewerking ook door hen uitgesloten. IMO is de zaak behoorlijk dichtgetimmerd, ondanks dat er mogelijk bewijs te over is.
Ook Anorak kopt kranten die eigenlijk (zoals verwacht) alleen gaan over neglect, daaraan is ook al af te lezen dat de copieermachine van Mitchell overuren maakt. En zeiken over die Mobile phone records is makkelijk he, kunnen we toch niet inzien. Allemaal bull!
Op Sky zijn ze minder subtiel, daar noemen ze dat wel:
http://news.sky.com/skyne(...)317466,00.html?f=rssquote:Gerry Denies Receiving Mystery Texts
Gerry McCann has denied he received a string of mystery texts the day before his daughter disappeared in the Algarve.
Kate and Gerry McCann
According to court documents issued by Portugal's supreme court, police applied to seize his phone records after learning of the alleged messages.
Investigators claim 18 text messages were sent to Mr McCann from an unidentified number around the time Madeleine vanished in Praia da Luz on May 3 last year.
It is alleged that 14 messages were texted on May 2 and four more on May 4.
But the McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said Gerry had no knowledge of the texts and received a handful of calls on his mobile in the days before his daughter disappeared.
The documents reveal that public prosecutor Magalhaes e Meneses also sought access to text and phone messages from 10 mobile telephones thought to belong to the McCanns and seven of their friends.
He also asked for a full list of all the calls made between the group from when they arrived in Portugal on April 28 and when the McCanns left on September 9.
But the supreme court issued a detailed ruling rejecting the application.
(Als je niet te verbergen hebt dat vraag je een nummerspecificatie aan en geef je die gegevens zelf af.)
It also revealed that Kate and Gerry McCann could face charges of neglecting their daughter on the night she disappeared.
The police inquiry also covers possible abduction, homicide and concealment of a corpse, the documents say.
But Mr Mitchell emphasised the court papers did not mean such a charge would materialise.
He said the couple vigorously denied neglecting Madeleine and welcomed the fact that abduction was also being considered by detectives.
Madeleine went missing last year
He said: "This court document outlines the areas of the investigation and in no way suggests Kate and Gerry will be facing any such charges.
"Equally we have heard nothing officially to suggest any such area of investigation is being considered.
"However, we do note that abduction is apparently one of the parameters and we welcome that because that is what Kate and Gerry and their friends have said and that is what happened.
"If there is any suggestion of neglect charges being considered that will be vigorously denied because the legal advice that Kate and Gerry have received both in Portugal and Britain is that legally speaking everything they were doing that week was well within the bounds of responsible parenting."
A neglect charge carries a maximum penalty of 10 years. But it is understood for such a charge to stand up the prosecutors would have to show the McCanns intended to neglect Madeleine.
be nice or go away
Zo, zo, alweer een kritische noot van The Sun, Clarence Mitchell, lees je mee?
Goeiemiddag Kahaarin, deze mededelingen op Sky zijn zowat in alle kranten verschenen, en wat Clarrie benadrukt dat ze blij zijn dat ook ontvoering in het onderzoek is meegenomen. En ze wisten allang dat die Mobile Phone records en textberichten niet in het onderzoek werden meegenomen, iets wat op 2008.04.29 door de rechter is beslist, zie transscript. Natuurlijk, als ze niks te verbergen hebben hadden ze zelf alle gegevens verstrekt maar dat is niet het geval, zoals ze weten sinds eind april. Reken maar dat hun Portugese advocaten deze wetten op hun duimpje kennen én bespreken met hun collega's in de UK.
Nu kunnnen de McConns volop weer de kranten vullen zoals dit artikel in The Mirror: Gerry and Kate McCann's fury after 14 texts slur"A source close to them said: "They have had their phone records available for inspection for months. But the police never asked for them. And now they have formally asked, they have been refused. "Any suggestion of Gerry receiving 10 texts the day before Madeleine disappeared are utter rubbish "He hardly used his phone during the holiday and most of the friends with them didn't even have mobiles. (wat een zooi onzin!!!!) "The only time his phone rang was when work called and he explained he was on holiday. There are no mystery texts. Gerry has nothing to hide. It's yet more nonsense coming from Portugal." Police also applied to see the phone records of the friends that Gerry and Kate were on holiday with."
Nah, deel ons dan vrijwillig mee wat er in die texten staat die wel zijn ontvangen en verstuurd, nothing to hide he?! Vrienden haast geen mobieltjes in kun bezit?...bij mijn weten is zeker in die nacht heel wat afgebeld, door iedereen. Ook een Tapas-vriend had nog zo'n schattige video met de mobile geschoten op weg naar Portugal:
Overigens zijn de Britse cops ook op hoogte: "The newspaper claims Mr McCann and Mr O'Brien will be interrogated about the phone call next week in Britain. This information came to light in a meeting between Portuguese and British police in Leicester last week. Former Surrey Police detective and child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas was present at the summit. He said to the newspaper in Portugal: "The mobile phone data was secured by British experts in the 10 days after Madeleine dissapeared. Although not initially analysed, in has now been and will provide vital information." The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell declined to comment." 07 december 2007 Daily Mail
Maar dat de telefoons ook naderhand werden afgeluisterd was ook wel bekend: "Friends of Dr Matthew Oldfield, an endocrinologist at Kingston Hospital in south-west London who was dining with the McCanns when Madeleine went missing on May 3, have told The Sunday Telegraph he is sure his mobile phone is being bugged. Gerry McCann is reported to have told friends: "The police are listening to every word we say."
The eavesdropping has proved particularly distressing to the McCanns, with one Portuguese newspaper claiming secretly recorded evidence has convinced detectives that the couple believe their daughter is dead." Uit een eerdere post op 16 sept. 2007 En las een tijdje terug dat de McCanns zelfs alleen nog buiten telefoneerden want ze dachten dat alles gewired was in huis, wat me wel logisch lijkt. Afijn, voorlopig worden de lezers weer lekker beziggehouden met een mogelijke kwestie van alleen neglect, maar dat dit onderdeel is van "abduction, homicide, exposure or abandonment of a child, and concealment of a corpse" vergeet Clarence Mitchell maar even. Het is allemaal zooooooooo voorspelbaar. Ze kunnen weer weeeeeeeeeeeeeeken vooruit.
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[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 29-05-2008 17:42:58 (woord vergeten) ]
------------------------------------quote:McCann re-make is vital The Sun (No online link, appears in paper version only) (bron) 29/05/2008
Kelvin MacKenzie (Editor of the Sun 1981-1994)
I am puzzled at the refusal of the McCanns to fly to the Algarve today for a police reconstruction of the night Madeleine disappeared. It is said they are suspicous of police motives and do not believe it will help find their daughter.
Are they really the best placed people to make that decision? after all, they remain the leading suspects in the case and despite Portuguese police handling the investigation badly, the law remains their best hope for justice. Already the McCanns have tried worldwide publicity - including roping in the pope - and that didn't work.
They have taken the public's money and spent it on £50,000-a-month private detectives, and that certainly hasn't worked. Those with decent memories may well recall these private eyes claiming they would have Madeleine home by christmas.
So why wouldn't the Mccanns and the Tapas seven try one more throw of the dice ? according to a "friend", it would have disrupted their family and business schedules. Their "schedules" have already been disrupted and tragically will remain so for as long as Madeleine remains missing.
Could I urge them to have a change of heart and co-operate with the police. Until they do so my personal jury will remain out.
Goeiemiddag Kahaarin, deze mededelingen op Sky zijn zowat in alle kranten verschenen, en wat Clarrie benadrukt dat ze blij zijn dat ook ontvoering in het onderzoek is meegenomen. En ze wisten allang dat die Mobile Phone records en textberichten niet in het onderzoek werden meegenomen, iets wat op 2008.04.29 door de rechter is beslist, zie transscript. Natuurlijk, als ze niks te verbergen hebben hadden ze zelf alle gegevens verstrekt maar dat is niet het geval, zoals ze weten sinds eind april. Reken maar dat hun Portugese advocaten deze wetten op hun duimpje kennen én bespreken met hun collega's in de UK.
Nu kunnnen de McConns volop weer de kranten vullen zoals dit artikel in The Mirror: Gerry and Kate McCann's fury after 14 texts slur"A source close to them said: "They have had their phone records available for inspection for months. But the police never asked for them. And now they have formally asked, they have been refused. "Any suggestion of Gerry receiving 10 texts the day before Madeleine disappeared are utter rubbish "He hardly used his phone during the holiday and most of the friends with them didn't even have mobiles. (wat een zooi onzin!!!!) "The only time his phone rang was when work called and he explained he was on holiday. There are no mystery texts. Gerry has nothing to hide. It's yet more nonsense coming from Portugal." Police also applied to see the phone records of the friends that Gerry and Kate were on holiday with."
Nah, deel ons dan vrijwillig mee wat er in die texten staat die wel zijn ontvangen en verstuurd, nothing to hide he?! Vrienden haast geen mobieltjes in kun bezit?...bij mijn weten is zeker in die nacht heel wat afgebeld, door iedereen. Ook een Tapas-vriend had nog zo'n schattige video met de mobile geschoten op weg naar Portugal:
(Bron inclusief filmpje)quote:TODAY the parents of missing tot Madeleine McCann have released heart-rending video clips of their daughter, captured on a friend's mobile phone as they set off on their fateful holiday. 28/ 5/2007
(Overigens zijn de Britse cops ook op hoogte: "The newspaper claims Mr McCann and Mr O'Brien will be interrogated about the phone call next week in Britain. This information came to light in a meeting between Portuguese and British police in Leicester last week. Former Surrey Police detective and child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas was present at the summit. He said to the newspaper in Portugal: "The mobile phone data was secured by British experts in the 10 days after Madeleine dissapeared. Although not initially analysed, in has now been and will provide vital information." The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell declined to comment." 07 december 2007 Daily Mail
Maar dat de telefoons ook naderhand werden afgeluisterd was ook wel bekend: "Friends of Dr Matthew Oldfield, an endocrinologist at Kingston Hospital in south-west London who was dining with the McCanns when Madeleine went missing on May 3, have told The Sunday Telegraph he is sure his mobile phone is being bugged. Gerry McCann is reported to have told friends: "The police are listening to every word we say."
The eavesdropping has proved particularly distressing to the McCanns, with one Portuguese newspaper claiming secretly recorded evidence has convinced detectives that the couple believe their daughter is dead." Uit een eerdere post op 16 sept. 2007 En las een tijdje terug dat de McCanns zelfs alleen nog buiten telefoneerden want ze dachten dat alles gewired was in huis, wat me wel logisch lijkt. Afijn, voorlopig worden de lezers weer lekker beziggehouden met een mogelijke kwestie van alleen neglect, maar dat dit onderdeel is van "abduction, homicide, exposure or abandonment of a child, and concealment of a corpse" vergeet Clarence Mitchell maar even. Het is allemaal zooooooooo voorspelbaar. Ze kunnen weer weeeeeeeeeeeeeeken vooruit.
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[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door Suko op 29-05-2008 17:42:58 (woord vergeten) ]
Ik probeer het me voor te stellen, maar het lukt me gewoon niet. Stel dat ik onterecht beschuldigd wordt van betrokkenheid bij de dood of verdwijning van mijn dochter. Dan zou ik toch dolblij zijn met alles wat mijn onschuld zou bewijzen. Lees mijn SMS'jes maar, hier is mijn telefoon. Doe er mee wat je wil! En ik zou al mijn vrienden overhalen om hun telefoon ook af te geven. Alles om maar te bewijzen dat ik er niks mee te maken heb.
Maar nee, in plaats daarvan weiger je je medewerking en ga je ook nog als een klein kind lopen mokken. Maandenlang hebben jullie er niet om gevraagd en nu krijgen jullie ze ook lekker niet meer. Sliep uit
Onbegrijpelijk.
Maar nee, in plaats daarvan weiger je je medewerking en ga je ook nog als een klein kind lopen mokken. Maandenlang hebben jullie er niet om gevraagd en nu krijgen jullie ze ook lekker niet meer. Sliep uit
Onbegrijpelijk.
Als je goed om je heen kijkt zie je dat alles gekleurd is.
Heerlijk zo'n reactie, iedere oprechte en natuurlijk ook onschuldige ouder zou vanaf het begin ALLE medewerking hebben gegeven, op zoek naar hun kind, maar dat is dus in dit geval volstrekt niet aan de hand. Daarom is het zo'n media-spektakel, die de ouders met behulp van mensen op hoge plekken zelf hebben opgezet, en waarom vraagt ook iedereen zich af. Wie en wat moet er zo heftig beschermd worden, speculaties alom maar niemand heeft nog echt de vinger op het verhaal kunnen leggen. Nog afgezien van bescherming van eigen carrières, dat lijkt me iets te siimpel maar is toch niet uitgesloten, vergeet niet dat die vrienden ook worden verdacht van het alleen laten van hun kinderen en dus ook de kans lopen hun kinderen kwijt te raken. ---------------------quote:Op donderdag 29 mei 2008 20:05 schreef livelink het volgende:
Ik probeer het me voor te stellen, maar het lukt me gewoon niet. Stel dat ik onterecht beschuldigd wordt van betrokkenheid bij de dood of verdwijning van mijn dochter. Dan zou ik toch dolblij zijn met alles wat mijn onschuld zou bewijzen. Lees mijn SMS'jes maar, hier is mijn telefoon. Doe er mee wat je wil! En ik zou al mijn vrienden overhalen om hun telefoon ook af te geven. Alles om maar te bewijzen dat ik er niks mee te maken heb.
Maar nee, in plaats daarvan weiger je je medewerking en ga je ook nog als een klein kind lopen mokken. Maandenlang hebben jullie er niet om gevraagd en nu krijgen jullie ze ook lekker niet meer. Sliep uit
Onbegrijpelijk.
En dan nog een artikel van Duarte Levy (sosmaddie.dhblogs.be), vertaling van een poster op het het 3arguidoforum
Dat verhaal van die 10e persoon is al een tijdje een discussiepunt, of is die misschien de sleutel van dit (IMO) drama, er zijn verschillende namen genoemd: formeel verdachte Robert Murat (hij woont er permanent), John Geraghty (A 68-year-old businessman from Leicestershire who now lives on the outskirts of Praia da Luz. Offered to store the McCanns’ hire car so that they could commission independent forensic tests, The Times), John Corner (peetoom van de twins, de McCanns verbleven in zijn villa in Praia da Luz, mede-producer van docu's over Madeleine, geruchten over pedofiele connecties), of iemand van de Britse overheid en daarom de connecties, of zelfs geldschieter/ multimiljonair Brian Kennedy hij woont niet aldaar maar betaald wel zowat alle gemaakte kosten, en heeft met Murat gesproken, zie eerdere post en hier, ook wordt al tijden gesuggereerd dat hij (ook Brian Kennedy misschien) die fatale avond, nog voor het alarm werd gegeven, de Algarve per privé-vliegtuig had verlaten, met wat...quote:Investigators wanted to research tapas 10
"The refused access to the content of the messages received by Gerry McCann before and after the disappearance Madeleine, together with the refusal of the tapas nine to return to the Portugal, will not prevent the inspectors in the progress of their investigation," said a person in charge of the Judicial Police after disclosure yesterday of the decision of the Court of the Relation of Évora.
According to the same source, with their access to the content of the written messages received by Gerry McCann, "the investigators wanted to confuse the 10th person in question, that the police knows to be linked to the matter".
Certain inspectors speak even mention the 10th tapas.
The existence of a tenth person, is known to Gerry and Kate McCann, is in fact equally known to a member of the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) "the officers sent to the Portugal even had suggested some possibilities among the British that live in permanence the region of Algarve".
Yesterday, the Court of the Relation of Évora came to support the decision of the criminal examining magistrate of Portimão, Pedro Frias, that had forbidden the access to the content of the written messages (SMS) received by Gerry McCann.
According to the document, the dad of Madeleine McCann received 14 written messages May 2, the day before disappearance of his girl, from a telephone with unidentified number. The same number is at the origin of 4 other messages that Gerry McCann to received after the disappearance.
Gerry and Kate McCann always refused to supply the investigators the content of the messages, but this did not prevent the police obtaining these pieces of information.
To use the content of this information, notably in a process, that will be the decision of the criminal examining magistrate.
According to the same document, the first part to be made public regarding investigations of the Judicial Police, after the disappearance of Madeleine, carry well on the eventuality of the crimes of abandonment, endangered, homicide and corpse concealment.
As a reminder, the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) and the police of the Leicestershire, collaborated in the investigation of Portuguese authorities, as confirmed by Patricia Scotland, Minister of State and Attorney General for England and the Country of Wales.
If the decision of the judge prevents the usage of the previous data to the disappearance of Madeleine, she did not prevent the investigators of examination of the calls and the inspectors know what was spoken.
Gonçalo Amaral, replaced by the inspector Paulo Rebelo, had equally the occasion to proceed to the listen telephone after the disappearance of Madeleine and while the couple and friends were still located in Portugal. Once the couple and friends returned to the United Kingdom, the PJ waited for permission from British authorities to continue the work, but it is again uncertain if all the news could be communicated for them.
According to the interpretation given by the criminal examining magistrate of the Court of 1ª instance of Portimão, Pedro Frias, to the Portuguese legislation, confirmed by the Court of Relation, the investigators could only use the obtained data in real time. In the practice, it would have been necessary to the investigators to obtain an authorization before the disappearance of Madeleine.
Pedro Frias did not refuse the usage or the access to all the listings and recordings which where carried out in the framework of the investigation, but it does not grant to the investigators the right to use the content of the sharp SMS received by the couple McCann before May 3 2007.
The Public Ministry and the Judicial Police wanted to request the three operators of mobile communication centres – TMN, Vodafone and Optimus – the listings under digital support (CD or DVD) for all the communications concerning the couple and their friends for the period of April 28 to September 9 2007.
The urgency to let the picture pass of “tapas 7" united and solid
The announcement made by the General Prosecutor of the Republic (PGR) regarding the cancellation of the reconstruction required by the Judicial Police, indicating that this decision was the consequence of the refusal of four friends of the parents of Madeleine to carry out their return trip to Praia da Luz,
The cancellation was not a surprise, however, the confirmation by the PGR that it would be the four witnesses to refuse to participate officially with Portuguese authorities raises a question: why the others three have' accepted, without any condition, to cooperate with the Portuguese authorities?
The question becomes more bothering, especially after information arrived in the British media, that the person in charge in communication of the couple McCann made no delay in informing finally "the whole group did not want to return to the Portugal]".
Without any attack from the office of the Prosecutor, the specialist continue to manipulate the media by having them justify their actions of the McCann’s and their friends, wanting to calm the public opinion and let the picture of a solid and united group pass against the Portuguese police, forgetting freely that the investigation is about the disappearance of MADELEINE MCCANN.
(Published on May 28 on duartelevy.livejournal, available initially to subscribers)
En wordt er in het artikel over 4 van de 7 Tapas-vrienden geproken, die niet wilden meewerken qua reconstructie, inmiddels is al bekend wie dat zijn: Russell O’Brien and his partner Jane Tanner, Rachael and Matthew Oldfield. Dus zou je idd kunnen stellen dat de overige 3: Fiona and David Payne, and Mrs Payne’s mother Dianne Webster wél wilden meewerken, ondanks dat Clarence Mitchell van de daken schreeuwt dat de hele groep hun nut er niet van inzag. Tja...
Nou ja, zoiets dan, op deze zwoele donderdagavond met een dreigende donderbui boven 't hoofd, voorteken...?
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Goedemiddag!
Pak je zakdoekjes maar vast, insert violen:
Edit: Sorry, bron: http://www.yorkshirepost.(...)ll-search.4131043.jp
Pak je zakdoekjes maar vast, insert violen:
Sorry, moest even mijn gal spugen, lucht wel op.quote:'Kate and Gerry will search for Madeleine to the end of their lives, if that's what it takes'
Madeleine McCann
29 May 2008
By Sheena Hastings
WHEN Clarence Mitchell was a BBC reporter, breaking news tended to follow him around, like the time he was driving along the M1 and the Kegworth air crash happened right in front of him.
After leaving TV to join the Government's Media Monitoring Unit in 2005, his first week saw the G8 in Gleneagles, London winning the 2012 Olympic bid, and the disastrous events of 7/7 in the capital.
During his decades in radio and television –which included early years at BBC local radio in Sheffield and Leeds before working on-screen at Look North – he'd covered long-running stories like those of Fred and Rose West, the murder of Jill Dando, and the disappearance and killing of schoolgirl Milly Dowler. He'd also been deputy to royal correspondent Jennie Bond, part of the team covering Princess Diana's death and funeral.
But there have been weeks in the last nine months when Mitchell's face has been seen on news bulletins even more than it was during his time in television.
Zeg dat wel, tot vervelens toe, zelden met iets zinnigs
He is spokesman for the McCann family, still searching for little Madeleine 391 days after her disappearance from their holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where she and her twin siblings were sleeping while their parents dined with friends 50 yards away at a tapas restaurant.
Still searching? Op de avond zelf hebben ze anders niets gedaan, behalve praying and hoping that she would be found.
Mitchell, who has a wife and three young children of his own, was plunged back into the centre of a worldwide news story when he was sent out by the Government to Praia da Luz to give assistance in managing the media in late May, three weeks after the three-year-old went missing.
Waarom? Waarom heeft vanaf dat moment de overheid er zich al mee bemoeid?
Arriving at the resort, he found at least 40 TV crews and about 300 newspaper reporters camped outside the McCanns' apartment. Interest in the story showed no signs of abating, local police
were giving nothing away, and rumour and speculation were running rampant.
En wie heeft er verklaring na verklaring de pers in geslingerd? Wie heeft er lopen spinnen als niemand anders, de PJ beschuldigd en het onderzoek afgekraakt?
Public donations were pouring in to the Madeleine McCann Fund. The Pope saw Gerry and Kate McCann's suffering on TV, and let it be known via Westminster Cathedral that he would see the two Roman Catholics if they requested an audience.
Tuurlijk, is meer zinvol dan samenwerken met de Portugezen of posters ophangen.
Clarence Mitchell set about making arrangements, calling in an offer of the use of a private jet made by retail tycoon Philip Green. The couple subsequently toured Europe, publicising their search, then immersed themselves in the effort of ensuring that Madeleine's image reached the furthest-flung corners of every continent. A mob followed wherever they went.
Ja want een ontvoerder zal een meisje dat zo in het nieuws is ook echt en plein publique overal mee naar toe tronen.
Many judgments have been made about the McCanns on the basis of their appearance and demeanour during the early days of the ongoing ordeal. Mitchell says they were advised by police and others to remain calm and impassive in front of cameras, as some abductors are known to get a thrill from the visible distress they cause to families.
Er was ook gezegd details over haar uiterlijk zoals haar oogje niet te onthullen en gevraagd of ze zich een beetje op de vlakte wilden houden zodat de PJ haar werk kon doen.
Of course, all sorts of inferences were drawn as a result – Kate and Gerry were too controlled, Kate was perceived to be too "icy" by some. She was damned if she did twitch with emotion and damned if she didn't. When she did eventually break down during an interview on Spanish television, Mitchell says the carping voices condemned her "crocodile tears".
All the while, vile and false accusations of involvement in Madeleine's disappearance (and worse) were flying about, and continue to be aired on the internet, despite the salutary £555,000 damages paid to the Find Madeleine fund recently by Express Newspapers for publishing grossly defamatory comments about the couple.
Hoe kan het toch dat er hele volksstammen zijn die hen verantwoordelijk houden?
The unprecedented international media interest in the Madeleine McCann story was a demanding beast that was not being fed by the regular press conferences that would be part of such a case in the UK.
" It was made out to be the biggest 'conspiracy' since the Diana 'conspiracy,'" says Mitchell. "Some of the group (of friends in the tapas restaurant) had their watches on that night, and others didn't... asking nine people to give exact explanations of what happened at what moment during the evening was never going to produce matching stories; what would have been more suspicious was nine exactly co-ordinated accounts."
Maar fabricaties zoals die man die met Maddy zou hebben gelopen en uiteenlopende tijdslijnen zijn verder niet verdacht of zo? Of het mysterieuze verdwijnen van het geheugen bij sommigen?
Ex-pat Robert Murat, who lives close to the Ocean Club holiday complex was made an "arguido" or official suspect (and remains so); then in September last year both Kate and Gerry McCann were also made arguidos, and as such were sworn to silence about the investigation but allowed to return home to Rothley, Leicestershire on bail conditions.
Wie zouden er ook weer in PdL blijven totdat ze was gevonden?
Their arguido status has just been extended for a further three months, despite the fact that "not a shred of evidence" has been put forward against them, says Mitchell. Portuguese police have until November at the latest to lay charges or lift the arguido status and close the investigation as unresolved, he says.
Daar zijn de meningen over verdeeld.
Gerry McCann went back to work as a cardiologist at the beginning of November. Kate, formerly a part-time GP, looks after twins Sean and Amelie. With the help of friends and family, the couple run the Find Madeleine campaign, answering letters, emails and phone calls, devising strategy and posters, and occasionally giving interviews.
Heel zelden idd.
Clarence Mitchell, who was sent back to London after a month-long stint in Portugal during which he forged a solid friendship with the McCanns, was not taken on as their spokesman until September last year, and was frank that he could not do it unless his Government salary could be matched.
Cheshire-based double-glazing millionaire Brian Kennedy, who had already offered to pay the McCann family's legal costs, said he would match Mitchell's earnings package of nearly £75,000, so that it would not drain cash from the £1.2m in public money donated to find Madeleine.
Hij krijgt dus gewoon een overheidssalaris voor de onzin waar hij nu mee bezig is, betaald door een miljonair om het Maddy fund te ontzien, waar is in godsnaam al dat geld dan heengegaan?
Mitchell spends two or three days a week in Rothley (put up for free by a sympathetic local hotelier), a couple of days dealing with the media in London, and weekends at home with his family.
At the height of the earlier media furore and again more recently, around Madeleine's fifth birthday and the TV documentary about the McCanns and their search for their daughter, Mitchell's phone is constantly buzzing, with missed calls stacking up by the hundred. Each event has also caused a spike in "sightings" and possible leads from the public.
How do the couple cope with regular claims that a small blond girl like Madeleine has allegedly been seen on a plane, train or in the street somewhere from Brazil to Morocco? "They don't invest their emotions in these claims unless they hear something more substantial from our own investigations or from the police in the country in question.
Leaving no stone unturned was het toch?
"Normally, we get a tip-off and have ruled out the story before the press have even had wind of it. For each 'sighting' you've heard about, there are quite a few more that people never know about because they are knocked down so early on." The McCanns have had contact from about 3,000 mediums and psychics alone.
En nog steeds geen spoor van Maddy, rara hoe kan dat?
"Some of the claims include very specific information – flight numbers, car registrations, that sort of thing – and anything that is verifiable we do check out." Keeping Madeleine all over the papers all of the time is not necessarily helpful, says Mitchell.
Nee, maar wel precies wat ze wel doen, dat verjaardagspartijtje, die docu, de statements, dat mag allemaal wel maar verder moet de pers met zijn handjes over elkaar blijven zitten tot zijne majesteit CM met een bot komt en dat naar de pershonden toegooit, daarna moeten ze weer braaf af op hun plaats.
"Sometimes we need things to be a bit quieter, and certainly if we had a strong lead, it would be mad to publicise it and let the abductor know that we're on the case."
The Madeleine McCann Fund pays £8,000 a month retainer to a Barcelona-based private detective agency with contacts all over the world, although the Fund allows for the agency to be paid up to £50,000 a month, should investigations require it.
En wat hebben die precies bereikt?
The couple say they will leave no stone unturned, never give up until they find Madeleine.
"They are not stupid; they know she may be dead... But in the absence of any evidence that she is dead, they continue to believe she will be found alive. They will search to the end of their lives, if that's what it takes."
* kahaarin Zakdoekje pakt.
Gerry and Kate McCann have plainly stated their regrets and remorse, says Mitchell. "But I defy any parent to say they have never had their child go out of their sight briefly. They got it wrong, and they're not trying to justify what they did, other than saying they made a mistake."
Nee, en ze gooien ook niet met beschuldigingen naar de leiding van het onderzoek.
Their faith gives them strength, as does a close family and public support ("So many people emailed after the documentary and apologised for getting the wrong idea about Gerry and Kate earlier on..."), says Mitchell.
Neither Gerry or Kate McCann is allowed to discuss ongoing investigations into what happened to Madeleine, or their opinion of how efficient Portuguese police have or have not been in searching for her.
Nee natuurlijk niet, ze zijn verdachten.
But, within the confines of a system of judicial secrecy which outsiders find absolutely baffling, those close to Madeleine are having to operate their own search with virtually no inkling about whether they are duplicating work done by others, as no information has been shared.
Nogmaals, ze zijn verdachten.
The officer in charge of the Portuguese investigation was recently in Leicestershire to reinterview the "Tapas Seven", as the group who holidayed with the McCanns have been labelled. Kate and Gerry heard not a word, says Clarence Mitchell.
Hallohoo, ze zijn verdachten!
Following criticism in Portugal of the time spent on the case of one missing child, there are fears that perhaps little has been done lately to find Madeleine.
Mitchell can't comment. "All I can say is that there's a lot going on at our end that you don't know about, and Kate and Gerry are very focused. They are pushing hard for an 'amber alert' system to be introduced Europe-wide, which would kick in as soon as a child goes missing; we are following up any verifiable lead; we are pushing legally to get the arguido status lifted. And if the Portuguese police do close the file, we can apply to see the information."
Wat een toewijding, wat een focus, helaas voor Maddy allemaal gericht op eigen eer en glorie.
In the meantime, friends and family pray, Sean and Amelie call Madeleine on their toy phones, and there's a skyscraper of fifth birthday presents awaiting her return.
Speaking about Madeleine
Clarence Mitchell will speak at a seminar during Leeds Business Week, being held at Leeds Town Hall at 10.30am on Monday, June 2. Admission free. The organisers will make a contribution to the Madeleine McCann Fund.
Want er is nog niet genoeg geld over de balk gesmeten aan dodgy investigations en eledged poster campaigns?
Find Madeleine investigation line 0845 838 4699; email:anonymous@findmadeleine.com; website www.findmadeleine.com
Madeleine McCannEdit: Sorry, bron: http://www.yorkshirepost.(...)ll-search.4131043.jp
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Hajo Kahaarin en de rest. Ik las dat artikel vanmorgen ook voordat ik wat nuttigs ging doen, en was blij dat ik het ontbijt al binnen had. Eén grote promo omdat Clarence Mitchell en z'n kornuiten zeer op de hoogte zijn (iets wat ze hebben laten weten in die docu over Madeleine, gamaakt door die dubieuze vriend Joh Corner), wat er op fora en blogs over de McConns en hun vrienden wordt geschreven en ook over hemzelf. Ha ha, ik moest met een vergrootglas je commentaartjes tussendoor ontdekken maar eenmaal op het netvlies was ik het natuurlijk met je eens. Zou die verslaggeefster wel de school voor journalistiek hebben doorlopen????Maar eigenlijk was deze tearjurker ook een aanloop naar zijn eerder aangekondigde praatje op 2 juni in leeds, zie eerdere post. Hij is zo ongeveer God in PR-Media-Manipulatie-Spin...etc etc la-la-la-land, de UK, een voorbeeld voor een komende generatie van hele enge mensen, IMO.
Onderstaande uit het artikel, leest wat zorgelijk, hopelijk worden ze tzt toch in de kraag gevat en in het cachot gedonderd, anders vrees ik dat ook de buitenwereld blijvend lastig wordt gevallen met die geldverslindende nonsens...
"They are not stupid; they know she may be dead... But in the absence of any evidence that she is dead, they continue to believe she will be found alive. They will search to the end of their lives, if that's what it takes."
Moet verder ook nog naar nieuws kijken, eerst de innerlijk mens versterken...
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Ik las dat artikel vanmorgen ook voordat ik wat nuttigs ging doen, en was blij dat ik het ontbijt al binnen had. Eén grote promo omdat Clarence Mitchell en z'n kornuiten zeer op de hoogte zijn (iets wat ze hebben laten weten in die docu over Madeleine, gamaakt door die dubieuze vriend Joh Corner), wat er op fora en blogs over de McConns en hun vrienden wordt geschreven en ook over hemzelf. Ha ha, ik moest met een vergrootglas je commentaartjes tussendoor ontdekken maar eenmaal op het netvlies was ik het natuurlijk met je eens. Zou die verslaggeefster wel de school voor journalistiek hebben doorlopen????Maar eigenlijk was deze tearjurker ook een aanloop naar zijn eerder aangekondigde praatje op 2 juni in leeds, zie eerdere post. Hij is zo ongeveer God in PR-Media-Manipulatie-Spin...etc etc la-la-la-land, de UK, een voorbeeld voor een komende generatie van hele enge mensen, IMO.Onderstaande uit het artikel, leest wat zorgelijk, hopelijk worden ze tzt toch in de kraag gevat en in het cachot gedonderd, anders vrees ik dat ook de buitenwereld blijvend lastig wordt gevallen met die geldverslindende nonsens...
"They are not stupid; they know she may be dead... But in the absence of any evidence that she is dead, they continue to believe she will be found alive. They will search to the end of their lives, if that's what it takes."
Moet verder ook nog naar nieuws kijken, eerst de innerlijk mens versterken...
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>>> The REAL Madeleine McCann Story by SPUDGUN <<<
Nieuws/info is te lezen op o.a. het Three Arguidos Forum + Joana Morais + mccannfiles
Blij dat er bloggers en posters zijn die elke stukje tekst bestuderen (wat tenslotte Clarence Mitchell óók doet in zijn stukjes naar de media), Nigel van mccannfiles.com merkt vandaag scherp op:
Mitchell backtracks on previous statement about watches
"Mitchell said he was not surprised by the inconsistencies in the initial accounts. 'You had nine people in a bar without watches on, without mobile phones, and absolute panic set in when they realised what had happened.
The Guardian 06 April 2008"
Inderdaad, was ik even vergeten dat ik dat ook eerder heb gepost: "Waarbij het natuurlijk verbazingwekkend blijft hoeveel er niet klopt in dit verhaal van met name Clarence Mitchell. Alleen al dit stukje: "Mitchell said he was not surprised by the inconsistencies in the initial accounts. 'You had nine people in a bar without watches on, without mobile phones, and absolute panic set in when they realised what had happened." Zum kotzen...
En dan in het lange artikel uit de Yorkshire Post van gisteren door Kahaarin vandaag geplaatst is het opeens: "It was made out to be the biggest 'conspiracy' since the Diana 'conspiracy,'" says Mitchell. "Some of the group (of friends in the tapas restaurant) had their watches on that night, and others didn't..."
Hij en de zijnen weten heel goed hoe dat verhaal over dat niemand die fatale avond horloges droegen en geen mobiles bij zich hadden totaal is neergesabeld op Internet. Elke krant heeft ook timeslines gepubliceerd, wie en wanneer checkte de kids. Zelfs Jane Tanner in de BBC-docu over wanneer ze Kate hoorde roepen dat Madeleine weg was: "I'm not sure, it'd be ten'ish, around ten'ish." En verderop zegt ze: "Well if you ask nine people about events of the night you're probably going to get nine slightly different stories, and you're not clock watching, you're not... you know, we were having a meal, you're not..." En dan Gerry: "Gerry McCann says he went at just after 9 to check on his children." WAT een BULL allemaal...
Voor mij is wel duidelijk dat Mitchell iets zit 'goed' te praten wat in eerste instantie al een leugen wás. Wij moeten maar geloven dat ze eerst allemaal 's avonds die horloges afdoen, afgesproken of zo en dan nu opeens niet allemaal?! You are a lying bastard Clarence Mitchelll!!!
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En dan vandaag een stukkie in The Sun, inderdaad gepikt uit een uitgebreider stuk van 24 Horas die daar gisteren mee kwam, vertaald door Joana Morais :
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[ Bericht 17% gewijzigd door Suko op 30-05-2008 23:30:43 (artikel weggehaald, klopte toch niet echt) ]
Mitchell backtracks on previous statement about watches
"Mitchell said he was not surprised by the inconsistencies in the initial accounts. 'You had nine people in a bar without watches on, without mobile phones, and absolute panic set in when they realised what had happened.
The Guardian 06 April 2008"
Inderdaad, was ik even vergeten dat ik dat ook eerder heb gepost: "Waarbij het natuurlijk verbazingwekkend blijft hoeveel er niet klopt in dit verhaal van met name Clarence Mitchell. Alleen al dit stukje: "Mitchell said he was not surprised by the inconsistencies in the initial accounts. 'You had nine people in a bar without watches on, without mobile phones, and absolute panic set in when they realised what had happened." Zum kotzen...
En dan in het lange artikel uit de Yorkshire Post van gisteren door Kahaarin vandaag geplaatst is het opeens: "It was made out to be the biggest 'conspiracy' since the Diana 'conspiracy,'" says Mitchell. "Some of the group (of friends in the tapas restaurant) had their watches on that night, and others didn't..."
Hij en de zijnen weten heel goed hoe dat verhaal over dat niemand die fatale avond horloges droegen en geen mobiles bij zich hadden totaal is neergesabeld op Internet. Elke krant heeft ook timeslines gepubliceerd, wie en wanneer checkte de kids. Zelfs Jane Tanner in de BBC-docu over wanneer ze Kate hoorde roepen dat Madeleine weg was: "I'm not sure, it'd be ten'ish, around ten'ish." En verderop zegt ze: "Well if you ask nine people about events of the night you're probably going to get nine slightly different stories, and you're not clock watching, you're not... you know, we were having a meal, you're not..." En dan Gerry: "Gerry McCann says he went at just after 9 to check on his children." WAT een BULL allemaal...
Voor mij is wel duidelijk dat Mitchell iets zit 'goed' te praten wat in eerste instantie al een leugen wás. Wij moeten maar geloven dat ze eerst allemaal 's avonds die horloges afdoen, afgesproken of zo
en dan nu opeens niet allemaal?! You are a lying bastard Clarence Mitchelll!!! ---------------------------
En dan vandaag een stukkie in The Sun, inderdaad gepikt uit een uitgebreider stuk van 24 Horas die daar gisteren mee kwam, vertaald door Joana Morais :
Commentaar van wederom Nigel, good man: * This is a good example of the laziness of the British press. This report is essentially a precis of yesterday's 24horas report, yet the people concerned in the report are all British and based in Britain. So, why are the British press not out there getting these stories and quotes? Why are they not speaking to the Tapas 7? Is it because they are afraid of upsetting the McCanns and thereby losing their access to Clarence Mitchell - without whom they would have nothing to publish? * The other question is: Is this actually a real news story or has it been created to shield the McCanns themselves from a backlash in public opinion? Only time will tell - not the British press.quote:'Suspect' fears of Tapas 7
FRIENDS of Maddie McCann's parents refused to return to Portugal because they feared being made suspects as well.
All the "Tapas Seven" pals of Kate and Gerry were asked by Portuguese cops to take part in a reconstruction. But at least four — Jane Tanner, Russell O’Brien and Rachael and Matthew Oldfield — blocked the move, says Portuguese paper 24 Horas.
Like the McCanns — who are suspect "arguidos" — the two couples also left their children alone last May 3 in Praia da Luz. A source claimed: "They demanded they'd not be 'arguidos' but that is impossible to guarantee." They could have been accused of abandonment of a child and jailed for ten years.
Sources claimed the reconstruction was aimed at highlighting statement "inconsistencies". The McCanns' spokesman insisted that the couples were concerned about "the reason behind the reconstruction".
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[ Bericht 17% gewijzigd door Suko op 30-05-2008 23:30:43 (artikel weggehaald, klopte toch niet echt) ]
