Maddy, the plot thickens.

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Op dinsdag 12 februari 2008 13:20 schreef voyeur het volgende:
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Goed dat het kind weggeblurd is. Voor je het weet grijpt een predator hem, maar moeten die ouders niet zo'n balkje over hun ogen? Het zijn toch verdachten?

Overigens zie ik vaak dat soort foto's. Kan iemand die ouders eens uitleggen dat je daar 'zondag armpjes' van krijgt.

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Op dinsdag 12 februari 2008 22:43 schreef voyeur het volgende:

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Mooi plaatje. Nu nog Madeleine's geest aan de andere hand van Kate. Of doe maar gewoon een Pond teken

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Fact= Joana Cipriano Body was never found. Her Mother and uncle were convicted to 16 years in Prison for murder.

The Case of Joana Cipriano

Joana Cipriano

The case of Joana Cipriano highlights serious omissions on the part of authorities who failed to spot that the little girl was being exploited and neglected. According to a neighbour of the girl, Joana seemed unnaturally mature for her age. “She has a bearing and an attitude greatly beyond her years. Instead of playing with other children, she seems to spend her time taking care of her two little brothers.” Another neighbour described her as the “Cinderella” of the household, seen at all times of the day and night in the village, running errands for her family.

In September of 2004, Algarve knew another tragic history which evolved a child death. In the beginning, the mother, Leonor Cipriano started for presenting complaint in the GNR on the alleged disappearance of her daughter Joana of 8 years.
The PJ still investigated the presumption abduction, but this theory fast became false when the proper mother of the girl passed of complaining to suspicion.
After long inquiries, happened what was feared. João Cipriano, uncle of the girl and brother of Leonor, confessed to the PJ that he and his sister had spanked the girl until the death. Months later, added to his confession that had quartered the corpse. According to João, the body had been cut in three parts and kept in a refrigerating coffer, where the PJ found blood vestiges that corresponded to the girl. The brothers had gotten rid themselves of the body in the following days of the crime, but they didn’t say where they had hidden it.

Court hears Joana’s horror story

Onlookers in the public gallery screamed abuse at the mother and uncle of Joana Cipriano as they were ferried to and from court.

The case, which has shocked the nation with its account of incest, murder and desecration, took just three days to be tried. The Public Ministry has pressed for jail terms of 24 years for the defendants, who are charged with qualified murder, as well as desecrating and concealing a body.
Joana disappeared, presumed murdered, in the Algarve village of Figueira, near Portimão. She was last seen buying food from a nearby café on the evening of September 12 last year. Prosecutors charge that she came home to find her mother, 34-year-old Leonor Cipriano, and her uncle, 32-year-old João Cipriano, having sex. Fearful that Joana would relate the incident to her stepfather, they allege that the couple decided to kill her. The prosecution also said that the couple had repeatedly mistreated Joana, recounting that she was little more than a “servant” in her own household.

The court heard a catalogue of horrifying details, including an earlier video taped confession from Joana’s uncle in which he related the circumstances of his niece’s murder. This video testimony is now the subject of an appeal from the defence team who claim it should be excluded because the couple exercised their right to remain silent during the trial. In the taped confession, João Cipriano said he and his sister hit Joana who then banged her head against a wall before collapsing, unconscious, onto the floor. João Cipriano claimed that he had wanted to call an ambulance but that his sister prevented him, telling him instead to go to Joana’s stepfather and inform him that she had disappeared.

Mother had appealed for daughter’s return

Her mother made subsequent public appeals for her daughter’s safe return, claiming that she had been kidnapped. But authorities began to suspect the couple after villagers noted their allegedly offhand reaction to Joana’s disappearance. Local shopkeeper Nídia Rochato remembered that Leonor neither cried nor seemed unduly concerned. When she commented on this to her, Leonor reportedly replied that she believed that her daughter was still alive.

The absence of a corpse delayed the arraignment process but the Public Ministry were able to indict the couple following statements from neighbours. Investigators also gathered forensic evidence at the house where Joana lived with her mother, stepfather and two brothers.

A total of 45 witnesses, mostly relatives and villagers, testified in court between Wednesday and Friday of last week. Four jurors (one man and three women) and three judges will decide the verdict. The opinions of the jurors – a 20-year-old student, a physiotherapist, a library employee and a waitress – will carry the same weight as the judges.

Joana’s uncle had contempt for human life

Leonor and João Cipriano, who have been held on remand for over a year, stood silently and without emotion as they heard prosecutor José Pinheiro outline his case. He described João Cipriano as a man who “has contempt for human life, psychopathic tendencies and difficulty in controlling impulses”. Pinheiro also castigated Joana’s mother for her “emotional instability, insensitivity and disregard for other people’s needs”. Only when Pinheiro announced that he was pressing for a 24-year jail term for both defendants did Leonor show emotion, sobbing uncontrollably.

Pinheiro explained why his team was pressing for such a long sentence. “The defendants’ guilt is heightened by their cold and calculating behaviour after their child’s death, as well as the devious manoeuvres they adopted to conceal the crime,” he said.

The trial included key testimony from Joana’s stepfather, António Leandro, who related that Leonor had confided to him that she had had a sexual relationship with her brother. He also told the court that during this conversation, which took place a few days after Joana’s disappearance, at judicial police headquarters, Leonor had admitted that she and her brother had killed the little girl.

A key element of the prosecution’s case rests on the fact that the couple dismembered the girl’s corpse. António Leandro, confronted with photographs of tools allegedly used by the couple, said he recognised a saw he had kept at home. In the video taped confession, João Cipriano admitted that the body of the girl was dismembered and placed in a refrigerated trunk. A doctor involved in the case, Albino Santana dos Santos, conceded that body parts, matching the size of a girl of Joana’s height, could have been stuffed inside the trunk.

Defence team challenges evidence

Despite the evidence, João Grado, Leonor Cipriano’s lawyer, still pressed for her acquittal, describing the evidence as “miserable”. João Cipriano’s lawyer, Sara Rosado, reminded the court that Joana’s body had never been found and dismissed the prosecution’s version of events. “João Cipriano has an intelligence level considerably lower than the average. How is it possible that such a person could deceive everyone for so long?” she asked the court.

But prosecutors disagreed, describing the case as a “veritable horror story that proves that reality really does surpass fiction”. “Nobody can say that they wanted to kill her when they hit. But later when they persisted, they knew that she was going to die. Their guilt is absolute – the victim was a minor, the daughter and niece of the defendants,” they told the court.

The corpse of the girl never was found, but this fact didn’t hinder the PJ to continue with the inquiries, and in November of 2005 the court of Portimão condemned Leonor to twenty years and four months of arrest and João Cipriano to a penalty of nineteen years and two months.

The absence of a corpse delayed the arraignment process but the Public Ministry were able to indict the couple following statements from neighbours. Investigators also gathered forensic evidence at the house where Joana lived with her mother, stepfather and two brothers.

Pinheiro castigated Joana’s mother for her “emotional instability, insensitivity and disregard for other people’s needs”. Only when Pinheiro announced that he was pressing for a 24-year jail term for both defendants did Leonor show emotion, sobbing uncontrollably.

Pinheiro explained why his team was pressing for such a long sentence. “The defendants’ guilt is heightened by their cold and calculating behaviour after their child’s death, as well as the devious manoeuvres they adopted to conceal the crime,” he said.

The trial included key testimony from Joana’s stepfather, António Leandro, who related that Leonor had confided to him that she had had a sexual relationship with her brother. He also told the court that during this conversation, which took place a few days after Joana’s disappearance, at judicial police headquarters, Leonor had admitted that she and her brother had killed the little girl.

A key element of the prosecution’s case rests on the fact that the couple dismembered the girl’s corpse. António Leandro, confronted with photographs of tools allegedly used by the couple, said he recognised a saw he had kept at home. In the video taped confession, João Cipriano admitted that the body of the girl was dismembered and placed in a refrigerated trunk. A doctor involved in the case, Albino Santana dos Santos, conceded that body parts, matching the size of a girl of Joana’s height, could have been stuffed inside the trunk.

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The couple received 16 year sentences.
What the report doesn’t say is the mother waited 2 days before she notified the police.
During that time she washed her house down with petrol.Blood was found in the freezer belonging to Joana which the mother claimed came from a nose bleed after she had given Joana a beating.

3 years later the brother has written a letter in which he claimed that Joana had been sold by her mother and was not dead.

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and again from another source:

Leoneor Ciprinao and his brother, who had a incestuous relationship, were both sentenced to 16 years in prison, for the killing of the child, Joana Cipriano.
They killed her, after she came back home earlier and found sister and brother (her mother and her uncle) having sexual relations. They cut the body in pieces, kept a few in the refrigerator, than burned and gave the remainings to the pigs, to eat . Samples of blood of the child, Joana Cipriano, were found inside her mother’s refrigerator.
Leonor Cipriano accused five officers of beating her. They were put on a police line-up and she didn’t recognize not even one of the alleged aggressors (including Chief-Inspector Gonçalo Amaral). The magistrate of the Public Prosecutor’s Office investigated the complaint of Leonor Cipriano against CID Chief-Inspector Gonçalo Amaral and the other five CID officers and decided to prosecute them, didn’t included in the accusation documents the results of the police line-up (which took place with Leonor Cipriano behind a two-way mirror…)
That magistrate is being sued by the Portuguese CID Officers union, and has a complaint with the Conselho Superior da Magistratura (”High Magistrates Council”) the body in charge of nominating and disciplining judges and magistrates from the Public Prosecutor’s Office.

Update: the trial of the officers who supposedly beaten up Leonor Cipriano started today 11th of February in the Court of Portimão.

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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 13:13 schreef Suko het volgende:
Pffft, het blijft een horror-story, al zou de helft maar waar zijn. Overigens is Lazy Goncalo Amaral (aldus The Mirror) gewoon weer met de zaak Madeleine bezig, 20/01/2008 The Mirror: "The disgraced cop who was sacked from the Madeleine McCann inquiry is to RETURN to work on the case." Een 'gezellig' artikel verder...Hij weet natuurlijk heel veel van het onderzoek en zal beslist van waarde zijn wat betreft het verdere verloop in deze en gebruik van het bewijsmateriaal.

En verder een hoop gezeik in The Sun over of het nou wel/niet verstandig was hoe de zaak Madeleine tot nu is verlopen, te snel als Arguido's benoemd waardoor medewerking aan het onderzoek door de McCanns ernstig is gestremd etc etc. Natuurlijk kijkt Clarence Mitchell ongetwijfeld hier met een zeker genoegen naar: "“We are sitting tight to hear what Mr Costa says.” (PORTUGAL’S justice minister) Het leidt allemaal weer zo af van de werkelijke kwestie, de vragen die aan de Tapas 7 en de McCanns moeten worden gesteld, of zijn de verzoeken daartoe inmiddels aan het verstoffen in een bureaula, ergens in de UK...

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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 23:51 schreef Troubles. het volgende:

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Er is zoveel bewijs met al die zogenaamd veelbelovende thickening plots dat deze reeks in nieuws in stand wordt gehouden door een stampvoetende Sicko, (en kennelijk door nog drie niet noemenswaardige oude vrouwelijke zuurtjes) die graag één keer in haar leven gelijk wil halen.

Dit topic "the plot thickens" vind ik nogal pretentieus in NWS. En als nieuwslezer stoor ik me eraan.
Als je je echt zo druk maakt ga je dan op de internationaal vermiste kinderen pagina vermaken. Zo denk ik dan weer. Maak je dan eens echt ergens hard voor i.p.v. eigen gelijk willen halen als een nep-sherlock met een ziekelijk obsessie om hier een stel mensen koste wat het kost te willen nagelen.

Er is geen bewijs en dit gebeuren stinkt naar een heksenjacht.

Verder heb ik niets tegen speculeren, ik constateer alleen dat jij er w.d.b. een dubbele moraal op na houdt.

_{Oh, en om e.e.a. voor te zijn, je post heeft me niet aan het denken gezet, ik ben fysiek niet altijd in staat om hier te posten.}

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Op woensdag 30 januari 2008 21:00 schreef Troubles. het volgende:

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Really, the plot thickens!

En dit topic wordt dag in dag uit, al maand in maand uit, in leven gehouden door een handjevol idiote wijven die alleen maar gelijk willen zien.

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Op woensdag 30 januari 2008 23:35 schreef Troubles. het volgende:

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Je beeldt je ook werkelijk in dat ik deze reeks volg.
Nee snoepje, er is weer een zoveelste Maddy topic in NWS en ik volg het nieuws en dit is geen nieuws. Maar jij met je maandenlange 24/7 belangstelling voor deze zaak hebt helemaal geen hoop op een levende Maddy in welzijn, flikker toch op, jouw hoop richt zich enkel op je gelijk willen halen op een wel zeer ziekelijke manier.

Sicko logt iedere dag aan om haar levenswerk te vervullen en de McCanns aan de schandpaal te nagelen, want Sicko die heeft het van begin af aan wel gezegd hoor.
Fora sluiten en dat is natuurlijk niet voor niets he? Vast allemaal een complot he, Sicko? Die zijn omgekocht door de McCanns.

Nee, Sicko, de koek is op. Er zijn geen harde bewijzen enkel hier een een handjevol zure wijven die werkelijk geen flikker om handen hebben en dat in NWS zonder enige nieuwswaarde.

The plot thickens.

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Op donderdag 31 januari 2008 20:48 schreef Troubles. het volgende:

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Die zogenaamde brave uitleg aan de 'simpele zielen' zou niet eens nodig hoeven zijn wanneer het hier concreet ergens over zou gaan i.p.v een restje complotdenken van wat zure ouwe wijven.
Je zegt zelf dat jou die andere langlopende serie niet boeit maar daar tegen ageer je wel?

The plot is thinning by the freaking minute.

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Op donderdag 31 januari 2008 21:56 schreef Troubles. het volgende:
De politie is alvast niet te vertrouwen.
Goed begin want dan gaan we de waarheid wel even via internet oplossen.
Sicko is nog gekker dan Babyloniaa en die is echt wel gek.

-> BNW eigen heksenjachtweblogje.

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Op donderdag 31 januari 2008 21:45 schreef Troubles. het volgende:
Meid, je hebt je werk voor vandaag weer gedaan.
Waarom begin je niet een eigen weblog?

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Op woensdag 13 februari 2008 23:59 schreef Troubles. het volgende:

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Zo werk je alle mensen weg uit deze reeks?

Nee, er is geen bewijs.

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THE police investigation into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance in the Algarve is nearing its end, Portugal’s justice minister said last night.

Alberto Costa told a parliamentary committee hearing in Lisbon: “We are at a stage now where we are approaching the conclusion of the process.”

Mr Costa said it was “premature” to say whether the investigation would reveal what happened to Madeleine, citing British statistics showing that about 80% of similar cases in Britain remained unresolved.

The minister described the many leaks in the case, which apparently came from Portuguese officials, as “worrying”.

Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the missing girl’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, said: “If the case is coming to a conclusion, we hope it will conclude shortly with the finding of Madeleine and her being reunited with her parents.

“That is the only satisfactory conclusion for us.”

Mr Mitchell added they remain confident Kate and Gerry’s suspect status will be lifted in the near future.

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Op donderdag 14 februari 2008 13:20 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the missing girl’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, said: “If the case is coming to a conclusion, we hope it will conclude shortly with the finding of Madeleine and her being reunited with her parents.

“That is the only satisfactory conclusion for us.”

Wat een waanzinnige opmerking. Er is toch helemaal niemand die serieus gelooft dat de Portugese politie binnenkort uit de hoge hoed Madeleine terugtovert.

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New Poster Campaign Launched In Madeleine McCann Hunt
Feb 14 2008

A POSTER campaign linking the disappearance of Madeleine McCann with two missing Spanish children is being launched today.

Nearly 18,000 are being sent out across Spain. They will show Madeleine with either Mari Luz Cortes, five, or Yeremi Vargas, seven.

They carry the headline No Nos Olvideis - Spanish for "Don't forget us" - and phone numbers where possible sightings can be reported.

Mari went missing in Huelva, 120 miles from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz, on January 13. Madeleine vanished from Praia da Luz on last May 3 .Yeremi disappeared on Gran Canaria in March 2007.

The Helping To Find Madeleine support group produced the posters.

Kate and Gerry McCann's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "We know the Portuguese police looking for Madeleine have examined both cases and our investigators have also looked at them and continue to keep an open mind."

In Portugal, the police inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance is about to end, it was claimed yesterday.

Justice minister Alberto Costa told a Lisbon hearing: "We're at a stage where we're approaching the conclusion of the process."

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Op donderdag 14 februari 2008 13:57 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Hoi Kahaarin, ondanks dat het er mogelijk niet gunstig uitziet wat betreft 'Justice for Mdeleine' zie ik dit artikel meer als Clarence-talk, net zoals ik eerder de links heb gepost in dit bericht, want de Portugese pers geeft aan dit gemor binnen de PJ toch een iets andere draai, een snipper uit SIC News alwaar een 3arguido-poster een transcript heeft gemaakt: "Newsreader: The Minister of Justice guarantees that the investigation of the Maddie case has not been affected by the Judicial Police director. Alberto Costa went to Parliament today to explain the situation to MPs and announced that the investigation was in the final stages." < Dat kan dus ook gewoon betekenen dat idd het onderzoek tot een einde raakt en er tot slot nog wat vragen moeten worden beantwoord. Dát zal er ooit van moeten komen en indien niet, dan moet er toch een verdomde goede verklaring vanuit de UK worden gefabriceerd die zowel het onderzoek, de UK én portugal recht moeten doen, en het publiek eigenlijk ook wel.

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En verder gaat een nieuwe poster-campagne van start in Spanje, Sky News: "Two A3-size posters have been produced - one depicting Madeleine, alongside five-year-old Mari Luz Cortes, and one showing her with seven-year-old Yeremi Vargas." Mr Mitchell said the reason why the other two children are included is "out of courtesy to their respective families". "They are going through the same agony as Kate and Gerry. Their children are missing in the region in potentially similar circumstances," he said."

Waarbij opvalt dat alleen voor Madeleine Metodo 3 (te zien op de posters) moet worden gebeld. Die andere kinderen zijn nog steeds niet vermeld in de database van The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children (ICMEC), genoemd op de site van de McCanns, hoezo begaan met hun lot...

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@ Kahaarin, laten we onze schoothond Troubles maar negeren, is een bekend forum/topic-verschijnsel, dat blaft alleen een beetje, niks inhoudelijks, kan geen kwaad....woef!

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En dat de McCanns, bij monde van Clarence M, zoiets zegt, dat ze alleen tevreden zijn met het terugbrengen van Madeleine is buitengewoon voor de hand liggend, ik las zelfs dat hij hoopt dat de zaak open blijft voor dit doel....ach Clarrie, schat van me, je doet je werk echt goed...

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Op donderdag 14 februari 2008 14:00 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Nada en España.

De enige 'posters' die ik zie zijn eenvoudige kopietjes die oproepen uit te kijken naar Mariluz, dat andere verdwenen meisje dat een week lang het liefje van Kate was, maar nu onder unturned stones lijkt te liggen.

Maar wie weet gaan brieven van Portugal naar de Engelse politie net zo langzaam als posters de andere kant op

Die CM is echt een lunatic. 'Portugese police examined both cases'. Welnee beleefdheidshalve hebben ze een blik geworpen op het opsporingsverzoek voor Yeremi en Mariluz en het afgedaan als een compleet andere kwestie. Was ook makkelijk: de McCann's hadden een alibi want hebben zich verschant in veilig Engeland dus het kon niet dezelfde dader zijn

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Op donderdag 14 februari 2008 14:31 schreef Suko het volgende:
@ Voyeur, right...weten we dat ook weer, alhoewel er ook massaal 'gespamd ' gaat worden! Dit keer kost het niet zoveel: "In all, some 17,400 packs have been produced, costing the Find Madeleine Fund £3,000. An email version is also being sent out to thousands of recipients." Sky News

@ Kahaarin, ik denk Joana Cipriano echt wel wreed is vermoord en niet meer opgegeven is als vermist, zo'n lekkere familie is dat nou ook weer niet, arm kind...

Die nieuwe poster-campagne (Bron) wordt ondersteund/gemaakt door die engerds van Helping To Find Madeleine support group, een doorgeslagen. naar mijn mening, cultgroep cq sekte. Ik heb daar eerder over gepost, brrr...een soort van recruteringsclub met een devotie voor de McCanns die geenszins 'fris' is te noemen, integendeel, jasses!

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Don´t believe in everything you read or listen. I have not heard nothing from Mr. Mitchell. If he is not saying something, then I don´t care about the news. To the McCanns, please my friends, stay strong, have faith, have hope, God will one day soon bring your sweet Madeleine and also sweet MariLuz safe and sound back to their parents. God, please, protect these to sweet little girls and help us all to know their real whereabouts and to bring them safe to their homes very soon. To the person or more then one who are with those two little girls, please, please, don´t harm them in any way, don´t scare them in way, don´t hurt them in any way, be patience with them, gives them great meals, breat bath conditions, clean and confortable towels and clothes, gives them lots of toys and dolls to play. Let them have lots of space to run and to play, be kind to them, and let them returns safe and well to both their families.

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Defiant Kate and Gerry McCann will keep their detectives searching for their daughter even if police shelve the case, it emerged today.

The couple have pledged never to abandon the hunt for Madeleine, despite signals from the Portuguese police that they are ready to file the investigation.

Mr McCann's brother John said they wanted police to clear them as suspects so they could focus fully on the campaign for the missing girl.

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Campaign: New posters of Madeleine McCann and Mari Luz Cortes warn: 'Don't you forget'

He said: "They want to be able to concentrate on searching for their daughter instead of defending themselves from a completely false accusation.

"This business of trying to accuse them has been ridiculous from the start.

"We just hope the police have not wasted too much time on trying to charge them, when they should have been searching for Madeleine."

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The couple, both 39, have launched a new £3,000 poster campaign across Spain, linking Madeleine's disappearance with those of two Spanish children.

Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell said their lawyers were deciding on their next step, after Portugal's justice minister admitted the police investigation was coming to a halt.

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Police still hope to re-interview the couple's friends who dined with them on the night of May 3, and may ask for fresh interrogations of the McCanns, of Rothley, Leicestershire.

Vow to fight: Kate and Gerry McCann have pledged to continue searching for Madeleine
Mr Mitchell said: "If the case really is to be shelved then obviously we will ask that Gerry and Kate should have their arguido status lifted first.
"And we would also ask that our private detectives should have access to the police files so that they can continue working on the case, even if the police will not.

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"It would obviously help our detectives to have access to all the police information in the case.

"There could be some forgotten clue in there which could still solve this case.

"Surely it is only right and proper that information that the police aren't acting on should be given to people who can continue the investigation."

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Yesterday's new posters to raise awareness of the disappearance of Madeleine and two other children warned potential witnesses: "Don't You Forget".

It is hoped the posters will be displayed in banks, schools, churches, stations and other prominent places.

Two A3-size posters have been produced - one depicting Madeleine, alongside five-year-old Mari Luz Cortes, and one showing her with seven-year-old Yeremi Vargas.

Mari Luz went missing on January 13 this year in her home town of Huelva, 120 miles from Praia da Luz - where Madeleine went missing last May.

Yeremi Vargas disappeared from his home in Gran Canaria on March 10 last year.

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A letter in Spanish will accompany the posters, explaining their purpose and giving information on how to contact the authorities for those who believe they can help.

In all, some 17,400 packs have been produced, costing the Find Madeleine Fund £3,000.

An email version is also being sent out to thousands of recipients.

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It comes as Portuguese police said they are ready to halt the investigation into Madeleine disappearance without solving the case.

Justice minister Alberto Costa said officers are "approaching the conclusion of the process" - dropping the strongest hint yet that they might never discover what happened to the missing girl, who disappeared on May 3, days before her fourth birthday.

He told the Portuguese parliament it is still "too early" to say if they would ever know the truth about Madeleine's disappearance, claiming 80 per cent of missing children cases in Britain go unsolved.