Maddy, the plot thickens.

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Op zaterdag 8 maart 2008 12:22 schreef milagro het volgende:
Dat bedoel ik idd, Suko, een artikel over Mari Luz, maar met Maddie, nee, sterker nog , Maddie's parents in de "heading" ....

dat je de McCanns, inclusief Maddie , in een laatste alinea noemt, begrijpelijk, maar om het zo te brengen, als ware het another blow voor de McCanns, is misselijkmakend.

die arme stakkers, alweer een mogelijk link getorpedeerd, alweer iets dat hen herinnert aan hun leed, verlies, en oh ja, Mari Luz is dood en oh ja , haar ouders rouwen

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Autopsy to be carried out on Mari Luz Cortés today
The body of the missing five year old was found on Friday afternoon, still wearing the same clothes as on the day she disapperared, 50 days ago. An autopsy is to be carried out today, Saturday, on the body of Mari Luz Cortés, the five year old from Huelva who went missing from her home in the El Torrejón area of the city on 13th January during a short trip to the local sweets kiosk, and whose body was found on Friday afternoon, floating in water in the Torrearenilla marshland, in a river close to the Cepsa refinery installations, by a person on board a passing merchant boat. It was brought to shore by the Maritime Guardia Civil.

Civil Guard sources have confirmed that the body was badly composed and was wearing the same clothes as on the day she disappeared fifty days earlier.As soon as news of the find was released the parents of Mari Luz, Juan José and Irene, rushed to the scene, while other local people from the district where she lived also went en masse to the family home to support the family. There were scenes of great pain and emotion as the tragic find was confirmed. The grandparents challenged the Guardia Civil at the scene for, as they put it, not searching the marshlands from the first day, as they claimed the family had called for insistently. After the body was identified by the family and the judge, the body was taken to the Huelva crematorium.

Reports indicate that the body showed a blow to the head, and had been in the water for some time. A full autopsy is to be carried out on Saturday to establish the cause of death. In the case that she was assassinated, DNA remains of her aggressor will be searched for. However it is also thought that the currents could have taken the body of the girl to where it was found from the drainage waterways from close to where she lived, raising the possibility that it could have been a tragic accident.

Huelva city hall has declared three days of mourning. City Mayor, Pedro Rodríguez, said it was a very sad day and that the worst possible outcome had been seen in the case. The family spokesman, Luis Molina, said that the family were ‘bad and destroyed’ by the news, and he calle don the press and the locals to ‘respect their pain’, and give them peace at such a dreadful time. Bron

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Op zaterdag 8 maart 2008 14:21 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Maar wanneer krijg ik nou eindelijk die Spaanse posters te zien dus dus al achterhaald zijn nu Mariluz gevonden is?

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Who paid for the Valentine's Day poster campaign in Spain?
We are led to believe Madeleine's Fund paid for these controversial posters, that included images of Mari Luz Cortes and Yeremi Vargas, but did they? The supposedly independent website 'Helping To Find Madeleine', which has organised, cult-like, teams and members working throughout Europe, reports the following:

"Helping To Find Madeleine (HTFM) is pleased to announce that it has undertaken a further mailing project to raise awareness of the disappearnace of Madeleine McCann, Yeremi Vargas and Mari Luiz Cortez throughout Spain and the Islands of Ceuta and Mellilla.

An estimated 17,400 letters in Spanish accompanied by 2 A3 colour posters depicting the missing children have been mailed to Banks and Building Societies, Schools and Colleges, Restaurants and Fast Food outlets, Post Offices, Ports and Marinas, Churches and Other Places of Worship, Supermarkets and Shopping Centres, Railway and Bus Stations, Garden Centres, Camp Sites, Leisure Facilities, Tourist attractions, Vets, Tobacconists, Bakers, Butchers and Grocers.

Gathering of addresses has been carried out by members of HTFM who volunteered their own time to work on this project, with printing and mailing costs kept to an absolute minimum due to the ongoing support of Paceprint, Crossflight and Swiss Post.

HTFM and the Madeleine McCann Campaign thanks these businesses, the people of Spain and Ceuta and Mellilla as well as everyone involved in this project for their ongoing support and commitment in helping to find these missing children."

- If HTFM were behind the poster campaign, what happened to the money the Fund was supposed to have paid out? Or did the Fund pay the money direct to HTFM?

On the FAQ page of the HTFM website, they question is posed: 'Is HTFM part of the Find Madeleine campaign'.

The answer given is:

'No, HTFM is a separate body, governed by its own members. We work independently of the main Find Madeleine campaign, and not FOR them.' Perhaps Clarence Mitchell would like to issue a statement to clarify the issue, bearing in mind he now appears to have become the spokesperson for Madeleine's Fund.

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They´re not the only ones to offer sympathy.

- Diddy, germany

They would try and hijack this piece of news wouldn't they?

- Alex, Dukinfield,UK

Oh for goodness sake, a little girl has been found dead and this story is all about the McCanns! This is so terribly wrong. Lets focus on the poor family of Mari, and Mari herself. We may never know what really happened to that poor little girl, or how she ended up where she did. Kate, Gerry and Clarence - take a back seat for once and let somebody else have the headlines.

- Jw, Hants

I don't think these two abduction cases are linked. If this were the case we should have found Madeleine by now.

- Anna, East Sussex

Must they get involved and stick their greedy beaks into everything? Let this family grieve, don't make it all about you.

- Hollie, Cardiff,Wales

Let this sad time be about Mari Luz and her family, and not about the McCanns. Show some respect.

- Elle, Leicestershire

I wish to send my deepest sympathies to the family and friends of this little angel. May she R.I.P.

- Susan, purley, surrey

This doesn't bode well for Madeleine McCann.

- Mistry, Warsash

What are you talking about? There is NO link between Mari Luz and Madeleine McCann.

- Ana, Sweden

My deepest condolences go out to the family.

- Alex, Australia

The McCanns never miss an opportunity to get their faces in the newspapers.

- Tony, Essex

Well the McCann's have tried hard enough to link the "abduction" of their daughter with the disappearance of Mari Luz. Hasn't worked though has it?

- Judith C, London

My thoughts and prayers got to the family of Mari - RIP little angel. A tragic outcome to a terrible case. And will the McCanns please allow the focus to be on this child and her family - its not about Madeleine, its about Mari. What a very beautiful child, so very sad.

- Anon, England

Indeed. If the McCanns wish to send their sympathy could it not be done privately. Why does the sad report about the finding of little Mari have to be mostly about the McCanns.

- Mary, Manchester

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Op zaterdag 8 maart 2008 13:51 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Ik denk dat de ouders van en eventueel volgend slachtoffer zich wel meteen gaan distancieren van de McCanns, het is nu algemeen bekend hoe ze met 'lotgenoten' omspringen.
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"The option that Mari Luz’s murderer or murderers could be from Huelva and, more probably, be individuals close to the Cortés family is being considered. The possibility that this death could be an act of revenge against the family has not yet been discarded. This is a potential option, given that various persons, whom the family had had problems with, had threatened them.

The Police hope that the autopsy will shed light on when and where her death occurred. The fact that the body was recognisable would tend not to lend weight to the option that Mari Luz spent fifty days in the water and allows for the supposition that the abductors did not kill her on 13th January."

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The journalists of Express Newspapers, the British media group that holds four tabloids, are forbidden to write about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. The editorial decision was made after the parents of the child that has been missing for almost a year announced that they are preparing to sue the publications over articles that they consider "defamatory and rude".

The prohibition affects all the newspapers of the group - Daily Express, Sunday Express, Daily Star and Daily Star Sunday - and left the reporters "furious".

They say that the McCanns feel "threatened because we do not only write what they want to see in print. We also cover the investigation by the Portuguese police", said a source within the group that was contacted by JN. "The only thing that we want now is that they are forced to respond before a court, under oath, about the disappearance of their daughter. Maybe then, the public will see the answers to some questions, namely what happened on the night of May 3", [the source] said.

Kate and Gerry McCann have decided to hire a reputable law firm in London, that is speacialised in defamation cases. They hope to receive 4 million pounds (over 5,5 million euros), an amount that the spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, assumes that will revert to the Find Madeleine fund. (vertaling the3arguidos)

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Op donderdag 13 maart 2008 12:32 schreef Hephaistos. het volgende:
Loopt dit topic nu nog steeds?


En dan ook nog in NWS! Schop het lekker naar BNW ofzo.

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Dear Kate and Gerry,

Firstly, hope you don't mind me calling you "Kate and Gerry". It seems a bit familiar; but Mr & Mrs McCann doesn't sound right at all; far too formal, and anyway, you're "Kate and Gerry", we all recognise you from your first names, like Phil and Fern, and Richard and Judy.

Anyway, Kate and Gerry, I understand that you're considerng legal action against a newspaper group, and the threat of this, is the reason why they removed all their articles about you. Really? Are you? Why would you feel the need to do this? Does it matter? If you're innocent, then why do this. A cynical person may be forgiven for thinking that it could be a deflection from the imminent police questioning.

Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know that I understand how you feel. As a mum of three, last year, I felt both outraged and offended when the tabloid newspapers all defended your actions, without question. I felt offended and affronted Kate & Gerry; that I was assumed, to be like you. Me and loads of other "normal" parents, were suddenly lumped together with you - in order to justify what you did. "It could have happened to anyone of us"...."there but for the Grace of God"...and "we all do it", screamed the headlines in your favour. But we don't Kate and Gerry, we simply don't. And, forgive me for saying so, but you contributed to this media attack on us "normal" parents, you said it was like dining in your own garden. Well, some garden you two must have, is all I can say.

So, now I feel its a little churlish of you, considering suing a media group, just because they printed comments you think are unfavourable. I'd have thought it would be like water off a ducks back - afterall, as you said Kate, "the worst has happened, nothing can hurt us anymore than that". But there you go. Perhaps you need the money.

See, if I was to explain, succinctly, to somebody who'd just returned from spending a year on another planet, what "the McCann thing" was about, I would say: "These two doctors, who the media call Kate and Gerry, (do give Kate & Gerry our love" gushed Philip Scofield to Clarence Mitchell), went on holiday to Portugal with a group of mates. They all left their kids, apparently repeatedly, in the evenings. Kate & Gerry's apartment was unlocked, situated on the ground floor, and near a road. One night their eldest daughter - not yet four - went missing. They said she'd been abducted, and set up a fund. The police made them Official Suspects in the ongoing investigation. They used some of the fund to pay their mortgage. Oh, and they have a Publicist, who used to work with the Government. Oh, and the McCanns know people on the fringes of the Government. And now whilst they are awaiting police requestioning, they are threatening to sue publications for printing stuff they don't like.

Looks a bit suss, doesn't it, Kate and Gerry? They way I've set it out. Just the bare facts.

But I'd like to point out that you're not celebrities. The only reason we know "Kate and Gerry" is through your neglect. So please, stop acting like celebrities, and forget about suing publications, and for once have a little pride, a little grace, and turn a blind eye to detrimental headlines.

After all, they're wrong, aren't they?

And one more thing, this isn't about you two. It never has been. Its about a little girl you let down. The two people in the world she trusted, let her down. Stop hiding behind lawyers and publicists and admit this simple fact.

Then you might, just might, like some of the headlines again.

Yours

A caring "normal" parent.

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"The couple's multi-millionaire backer, double glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy, will continue to pay Metodo's 3 £8,000-a-month fee on a rolling month-to-month basis. The Find Madeleine Fund will pick up the Barcelona-based firm's expenses, which have been averaging around £50,000 a month. Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns, confirmed today: "Our relationship with Metodo 3 is continuing. "They are being kept on on a monthly retainer. "Brian Kennedy will continue to pay their fee of £8,000. "The Find Madeleine Fund will continue to pay their operating costs which have averaged about £50,000 a month up until now but have started to fall and will probably continue to do so as the number of leads they need to follow up drops off. Daily Mail

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Why would Método 3 (the ‘we’ll-have-her-home-by-Christmas’ Private Investigators) be interested in the reservoir when their employers, Gerry and Kate McCann, have stated that they consider Mr Corriea a "fantasist" who is seeking publicity and his dive search is distracting from the hunt? Not to mention the McCann source who said "There's no evidence Madeleine is in that reservoir. They [the McCanns] believe she is alive and are concentrating on finding her." 99% possibility they will find Madeleine in the reservoir? That’s a high percentage. Is it possible that the dive team have found something more tangible than several lengths of cord, some plastic tape and a single white, cotton sock but is not going public with it just yet? Curious."

(gaat al iets beter, pilletjes werken goed thx all)

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One of the detectives working for Method 3 would have paid witnesses who claimed to have seen Madeleine Morocco. The accusation was made by a source of security Moroccan, responsible for the examination of witnesses in the kingdom, and the working methods of Metodo 3 are criticised by the authorities.

The arrest, Antonio Jimenez, a private detectives serving McCann, accused of involvement in the theft of several hundred kilograms of cocaine and corrupting public officials, came deepened suspicions of the authorities on work of the agency. In the report for the hearing, a witness heard by the safety Moroccan admitted to having received several thousand euros from the Spanish detective who had asked him to keep the secret deal "to not affect the investigation."

Antonio Jimenez, former Chief Inspector of the Unit for Drugs and Organized Crime (Udyco) by the police in Barcelona, was the man confidence Francisco Marco, the director of M3, Morocco. He was the one who "found" several witnesses who claimed to have seen Madeleine in the north. The man even led to several British journalists to witness the encounter.

According to the same source, the payment of money could have been done without the knowledge of Gerry and Kate McCann, what pushing investigators to believe that the detective had acted with the intent to allow the agency Barcelona "score points" with public opinion and keep together for longer, the contract with the parents of Madeleine, their biggest customer right now.

"We were able to determine, with what the witness told us and the information we received from Spain, as Madeleine's parents have not asked the detective to do so," said the head of the Moroccan security, adding "it is not excluded that the detective agency can be solely responsible for such acts."

Already in November 2007, on the sidelines of the assembly 76éme-General of Interpol, in Marrakech, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Morocco, Chakib Benmoussa said "there was no reason to believe that the small Madeleine McCann can be in Morocco ", a view confirmed by the investigators on the ground.

Several votes associated with the Portuguese and British police have been raised on several occasions to criticize the work of Method 3. Such is the case with Mark Williams-Thomas, British and criminal expert in the area of protection of children, for whom the runway invoked by Metodo 3 of that Madeleine was allegedly abducted, commissioned by a pedophile network and transported to Morocco , "demonstrates a lack of knowledge of paedophiles and how they work."

Since the demise of Madeleine McCann, May 3, 2007, dozens of witnesses claimed to have seen the little British, but it was after the commitment of Metodo 3 that the testimonies in the media have become more regular, indicating whenever a track to Morocco without the detective agency can, to this day, make a shred of evidence.

Marco Francisco, the high-profile director of Metodo 3, had appeared with the promise that the girl would be found before the end of a six-month contract with Kate and Gerry McCann. Francisco claimed even know the identity of the perpetrators of the abduction and Madeleine would be from the parents for Christmas.

This is not the first time that members of M3 are involved. In the past, five members of the agency in Barcelona had already been arrested by police in a dark story ecoutes illegal and corruption, including Marco Francisco, his mother, Maria Fernandez Lado, his father, Marco Poyuelo Francisco, Francisco Fernandez brother Gabriel Lado, and an employee, Oscar Trujillo.

"All means are good"

Clarence Mitchell, questioned about the accusations made at Metodo 3, begins by affirming "that do not know," and that it "is unable to make a comment," but he quickly resumed his role Head Communication and relativizes stating that "all means are good" for investigations of private detectives: "It is possible that during the investigation they were able to pay for information," admitted the head communication service of McCann.

Method 3, Clarence Mitchell says, "keep the trust of those who pay their fees because they find that they can demonstrate their commitment to find Madeleine."

"The patrons are happy with their work on the ground ... the times they were able to track down the… alerts quickly, in some cases within three hours and they were simply faster, much faster or Interpol police services in the countries where they operate and thus patrons qu''ils think are doing a good job, "says Clarence adding" of course, they have yet to find Madeleine, but the police either. We know that M3 works well, they do not need to prove it, "concluded Clarence Mitchell.

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"It seems the Mirror's report ( McCanns dive fury ) may not be without some spin. According to the Portugal Online Resident, Metodo 3 are involved and the McCanns apparent fury reported by the British press is false. Confusing to say the least."

The Portugal Online Resident reports:
ANYTHING FOUND as a result of the searches being carried out by divers at the Arade dam near Silves will be given to Método 3, the Spanish private investigating company hired by the McCann family to help find Madeleine. In response to a report printed in the British press, saying that Gerry and Kate McCann were not happy with this private operation, Marcos Aragão Correia told The Resident that “a contact was made with Metodo 3 to clarify that information and we can say it is false”. He also said that “the family is not sponsoring the diving because they believe Madeleine is alive, but we are receiving support from Metodo 3, which means they are aware of everything”

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"The money allowed the lawyer to pay the diving team that had already been at the dam in January. Operations had been suspended after only four days, for lack of funding. In the email that he sends to companies, the lawyer presents himself as "the son of one of the major personalities of insular and national culture" and guarantees he has "sponsored the defense of several prominent cases", although he does not name a single example. He explains that on May 6 (three days after Madeleine disappeared) he received leads that the child had been abducted, raped and murdered, and her body had been thrown into a lake in the Algarve, which he himself concluded, "after thorough investigations" to be the Arade reservoir. JN knows that he contacted the police. "What he said was very vague and he never revealed his source, although we insisted on it several times. It was later discovered that his source was a medium, meaning it was not minimally credible", said a source that is connected to the investigation. During the seraches, ropes, a sock and a rock were found. Correia considers that they indicate the "presence of the body". He delivered them to the Spanish detective agency Método 3, which was hired by the McCann couple."

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 00:06 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Zou dit ook als sighting gezien kunnen worden Suko?

<knip>

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 10:54 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Tja het is nu eenmaal zo dat als er iets metkleine kinderen gebeurt het meestal met onachtzaamheid of opzet van mensen in haar/zijn omgeving te maken heeft, kinderen komen uit zichzelf nog niet echt ver dus is dat heel logisch.

Je wordt trouwens op je wenken bediend:
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http://www.wakefieldexpre(...)f--kidnap.3877777.jp

Met als verschil dat deze mum wel in het app was en er ook daadwerkelijk iets aan heeft gedaan.
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Idd, alleen gelaten of verdwenen onder de ogen van de ouders, dat is de overeenkomst, alle kinderen zijn als laatste gezien door ouders of naasten, heel logisch overigens, maar van dat pedo-ring verhaal blijft geen spaan heel zo.