Maddy, the brand new brandname.

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Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 15:09 schreef SadKingBilly het volgende:
Die zit allang hoog en droog in de harem van een of andere rijke marokkaan, ver van de bewoonde wereld en ver van iedereen die ooit van haar gehoord heeft. Helaas gebeurt dit jaarlijks met honderden, zo niet duizenden kleine kinderen. Alleen omdat maddy mediageniek is is er nu zoveel aandacht voor.

Het zal me niets verbazen als die ouders haar zelf verkocht hebben...

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Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 14:58 schreef Seneca het volgende:
Maddy is niet dood. Ze woont bij Tupac. Vlak naast Elvis.

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Madeleine: Police name Gerry and Kate McCann as PRIME suspects Zelfs met hoofdletters. Gerry and Kate McCann's hope of being cleared over their daughter's disappearance appeared crushed today after they were reportedly named as prime suspects in a new police dossier.

There had been hopes that the couple's status as official suspects could be lifted in coming days. But they may now remain under suspicion for years, after Portuguese detectives submitted an interim report to prosecutors. Police are keeping to their theory that the McCanns could have accidentally killed three-year-old Madeleine and then disposed of her body.

Under new Portuguese laws - still largely untested - there had been a suggestion that files on the case could be made public today on the eight month anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance. The deadline prompted hopes the official suspects - or arguido - status could then be removed.

Robert Murat's lawyer has said it would be 'cruelty' if he is not cleared over the disappearance of Madeleine McCann But according to Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha, the Policia Judiciaria will hand over an interim report in which the McCanns remain at the centre of inquiries.

The dossier will also include the possibility Madeleine was abducted from the holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on 3 May - adding to confusion in the case and reinforcing the view that Portuguese police have no real idea what actually happened to the girl. etc etc etc Daily Mail

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Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 14:58 schreef Seneca het volgende:
Maddy is niet dood. Ze woont bij Tupac. Vlak naast Elvis.

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Op vrijdag 4 januari 2008 11:19 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Dit zal hem wel tegen vallen dan, de OVJ is nog iet klaar dus het dossier wordt niet vrijgegeven.

http://www.independent.ie(...)eleased-1257575.html

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A SHOCK new police report last night named Madeleine McCann’s parents as prime suspects over her disappearance. Detectives remain convinced that the missing four-year-old was accidentally killed in her family’s holiday apartment.

They believe Kate and Gerry, both 39, disposed of her body to mask their negligence. But even if Portuguese police chiefs cannot prove the allegations, it has been claimed they still plan to charge the couple. They face being accused of perjury for allegedly lying in sworn statements about what happened the night their daughter vanished. They could also be charged with wasting police time by asking police to help find Madeleine when they allegedly knew her fate.

The revelations are in a leaked police report, due to be handed to the public prosecutor later today. They will come as a huge blow to the McCanns, who had hoped to have their “arguido” status as official suspects lifted within days. Not only will they now remain arguidos, but they will not be allowed to see the evidence police have gathered against them.

Normally details of criminal cases are made public in Portugal after eight months. But the Madeleine mystery has now been given special status as “complex”, allowing police to continue their investigation in secret. The move also means Brit ex-pat Robert Murat, 34, will also remain an official suspect for now – a decision his lawyer Francisco Pagarete described as “beyond cruelty’’. The McCanns and seven pals they dined with at Praia da Luz when Madeleine vanished on May 3 will be questioned again this month.

British detectives will conduct the interviews, but Portuguese officers will be allowed to sit in. Kate and Gerry, of Rothley, Leics, deny any involvement in their daughter’s disappearance and insist she was abducted. The couple have been told by their lawyers they might have to go to the European Court of Human Rights to have their arguido status lifted. And former Metropolitan Police Det Supt Noel Hogan admitted last night that he was conducting a “cold case” review for the couple.

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Investigation about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann from a quiet resort at Praia da Luz had “important developments” in the last weeks, after a Portuguese police team met with Leicestershire police and representatives from Forensic Science Service, the British laboratory where samples collected at the crime scene are being analysed.

On a preliminary report about the case, recently sent to the Public Prosecutor's Office, Polícia Judiciária (PJ) states that the parents remain the main suspects. Among other pieces of new evidence, there is a specific phone call and several messages, send from Ocean Resort, that are classified by investigators as “highly incriminating” Gerry and Kate McCann.

The same evidence also gave indications about how the body of Madeleine McCann could have been taken from the apartment and disposed of. Today, it was confirmed by a source from the Public Prosecutor's Office that a request to extend the time limit for the case will be filed, with the Criminal Court, before January 14, eight months after the first formal suspect was named.

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A source close to the McCanns said today: "If they want access to the updated diary, they can ask her for it but it is a matter for Kate to decide. It is very personal property."

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Police in Portugal have begun a fresh trawl for evidence which could incriminate Gerry and Kate McCann.

Among the items they are said to want to seize is their missing daughter Madeleine's Cuddle Cat toy, which was examined by forensic teams in the summer. They have also demanded Mrs McCann's diary.The requests suggest officers remain hopeful of bringing charges against the four-year-old's parents.

Police already have photocopies of the diary but these would not be admissable in court. A police dossier this week revealed the McCanns remain the chief suspects in the case and that they could be charged with accidental homicide, homicide by negligence, hiding their daughter's body or faking her disappearance to cover up her death.

Police yesterday made a formal request for British police to re-interview the seven friends who were on holiday with the McCanns when Madeleine disappeared. They submitted a catalogue of questions they want answered to the judge in Portugal overseeing the case.

They also included the list of items they would like seized. Leaks have previously suggested these would include the diary kept by Mrs McCann, 39. She was advised by a trauma counsellor to keep a journal and to include the days before Madeleine vanished from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on May 3.

Detectives took the diary and photocopied it, then leaked sections to the Portuguese media in which Mrs McCann allegedly wrote that her eldest daughter was hyperactive and said she could not cope.

Officers used the excerpts to suggest the GP could have been sedating her children. Mrs McCann has always denied the claims. Police were also said to want to seize clothes and other items - including the pink soft toy Cuddle Cat - on which trained sniffer dogs allegedly picked up the "scent of death".

Detectives have long questioned why Mrs McCann was so attached to Cuddle Cat and why, if it was her last link with Madeleine, she allowed it to be washed. They have suggested the toy was cleaned to destroy any potential DNA evidence, such as blood. Mrs McCann said it had simply become too grubby.

Other items sought by police are thought to include the couple's laptops and private correspondence, Mrs McCann's Bible, in which a passage related to the death of a child was marked, and their phone records. The formal "letters of appeal" will now be sent from the court in Portimao to the Portuguese justice minister and then on to Home Secretary Jacqui Smith for her approval.

Once granted police will contact the group to arrange interviews. Detectives in Portugal will then consider whether they need to reinterview the McCanns, of Rothley, Leicestershire, and whether they should be charged.

The spokesman for the McCanns, Clarence Mitchell, said: "Kate and Gerry, and their friends particularly, are very keen to talk to the Portuguese police again because they want to be able to clarify any inconsistencies to do with the timeline of events on May 3, or whenever the police put forward." Daily Mail

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Op zaterdag 5 januari 2008 12:02 schreef Suko het volgende:
Het is helemaal niet zeker/duidelijk of iemand Madeleine op 3 mei heeft gezien. Statements van een nanny zeggen natuurlijk niks, bovendien waren er veel blonde kinderen aanwezig en niet altijd wordt de presentielijst ingevuld, en indien wel, is het dat ook het juiste kind achter de opgeschreven naam? Er zijn artikelen dat de McCanns die dag aan het picnicken op het strand zijn geweest. Zie o.a. de Daily Mail Madeleine: Now the Portuguese police focus on the missing six hours En dat er CCTV-materiaal is geweest van een dansende Madeleine met paps levert geen duidelijke beelden op en de eigenaar van dat strandrestaurant weet het eigenlijk ook niet zeker of ze er die dag wel waren wat hij eerder wel beweerde. En wat lees-doe-info wat betreft de laatste foto van Madeleine, als men er zin in heeft...ik niet in ieder geval maar heb bewondering voor degene die dit heeft uitgeplozen met verwijzingen naar deze thread < Met een suggestie dat niet alleen de foto (vrijgegeven op 23 mei) niet van 3 mei is (zo mooi weer was het niet, koud zelfs) maar dat Gerry er in is gefotosoept, als bewijs dat hij daar aanwezig was.

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En dat mensen rond de McCanns bekend zijn met fotosoep bewijst deze foto en deze, oeps en weg elleboog. Die vriend en peetoom van de twins John Corner, o.a. tv-producer, zou dat goed kunnen. Besides, die villa waar de McCanns naderhand verbleven in Praia da Luz was van hem. Een nieuwe thread rondom deze bewerkte foto. En verder is het natuurlijk vreemd dat er niet meer vakantiekiekjes zijn met een recente Madeleine, maar ja, die zijn er kennelijk niet...

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Op zondag 6 januari 2008 12:29 schreef voyeur het volgende:
En moet je hier eens kijken http://www.helpingtofindmadeleine.com/Teams.html

Het is een sekte en ze plaatsen voor het gemak vast kaarten zodat je een sighting kan verzinnen en kan checken of je ooit in dat land was.

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Op zondag 6 januari 2008 12:31 schreef milagro het volgende:
ik ben geen 'schaduw expert' maar de schaduw van het bevriende kindjes hoedje valt op het been van Gerry.
Gerry's eigen schaduw op zichzelf (borst) is niet zo scherp als die van het hoedje op zijn been... dat is iets dat ik constateer, maar betekent het ook iets? geen idee.
waar stond de zon (ik ben te duf nu om logisch te denken) en waar moeten of kunnen de schaduwen dan vallen en hoe scherp moeten ze dan zijn?

wie is er nu zogenaamd ingesoept, Gerry of Madeleine.... of ms wel beide

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Op zondag 6 januari 2008 12:31 schreef milagro het volgende:
ik ben geen 'schaduw expert' maar de schaduw van het bevriende kindjes hoedje valt op het been van Gerry.
Gerry's eigen schaduw op zichzelf (borst) is niet zo scherp als die van het hoedje op zijn been... dat is iets dat ik constateer, maar betekent het ook iets? geen idee.
waar stond de zon (ik ben te duf nu om logisch te denken) en waar moeten of kunnen de schaduwen dan vallen en hoe scherp moeten ze dan zijn?

wie is er nu zogenaamd ingesoept, Gerry of Madeleine.... of ms wel beide

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Op zondag 6 januari 2008 16:53 schreef voyeur het volgende:
"During the day of her disappearance they had all gone for a walk, played tennis, and taken some more snapshots for the family album before relaxing by the pool." Ik dacht dat de huidige lezing van Team McCann was dat de kinderen in de cheche waren die dag?

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Op zondag 6 januari 2008 16:53 schreef voyeur het volgende:
"During the day of her disappearance they had all gone for a walk, played tennis, and taken some more snapshots for the family album before relaxing by the pool." Ik dacht dat de huidige lezing van Team McCann was dat de kinderen in de cheche waren die dag?

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Op maandag 7 januari 2008 00:15 schreef Nadine26 het volgende:

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Dat hebben ze allemaal gedaan in dat kwartiertje quality-time na vijven, wat dacht jij dan? Een man als Gerry, die met gemak 7 tennislessen op een dag volgt, heeft aan anderhalve minuut relaxen bij het zwembad echt wel genoeg. Intussen neemt hij die snapshots (multitasking is his middle name) en daarna jaagt hij die wandeling er doorheen. Blijven er nog acht minuten over voor een tennisles én het graven van een diepe kuil aan het strand. Oh nee, dat had hij de dag ervoor, op 2 mei, al gedaan. Of eh... sorry, het duizelt me een beetje

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"The German lover of Madeleine McCann suspect Robert Murat has been made an official suspect herself in the case, according to a Portuguese newspaper today. The tabloid 24 Horas reported that Michaela Walczuch was named an arguida - or official suspect - in November and that her alibi is still being investigated by Portuguese detectives.

She is the fourth person to be named an official suspect in the case - along with her boyfriend Murat and Gerry and Kate McCann.

The newspaper claimed that Ms Walczuch, 31, gave evidence as a witness in November. However, shortly after she began giving her statement her status was changed to arguida, claimed the newspaper. "Robert Murat's lawyer Francisco Pagarete said Ms Walczuch was made an arguida while she was being interviewed by detectives in November last year.

Mr Pagarete told 24 Horas: "Both (Murat and Michaela) were initially notified as witnesses and when they appeared at the interview, of their own free will, they were made arguidos (formal suspects) because they said that would give them more defence guarantees.

"There's nothing special about the position of arguido. But it was an unethical move by the officers of the Policia Judiciaria who interviewed Robert Murat and Michaela." "The claim has not been confirmed and last month Ms Walczuch insisted she had only been interviewed once by police and that was in May." Het hele artikel>> Daily Mail

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Op maandag 7 januari 2008 12:57 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Ehm, Suko?


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=506547&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow

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Op maandag 7 januari 2008 13:09 schreef voyeur het volgende:
PJ received the final results last friday

The results confirm that Maddie died in the apart and was moved inside the car

PJ will begin now new diligencias

PJ run out complety the abduction theory

This was told by PJ on TV and thats the news we have today in our news

Aldus een portugese vanmorgen.

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Op maandag 7 januari 2008 15:04 schreef Xith het volgende:
Goh, dit topic is lekker snel verandert in een Soap-slowChat voor GTST kijkende huisvrouwen...

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Op maandag 7 januari 2008 14:56 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Dankjewel, ook leuk dat forum, ben jij dit: lynnkx ?

De aversie tegen CM en het gebruik van Spin gaf me dat idee.

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Op maandag 7 januari 2008 15:09 schreef voyeur het volgende:

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Kan je denken, maar
a) ben ik geen huisvrouw, zelfs geen vrouw
b) heb ik GTST nog nooit gezien
c) is het nogal een schandaal dat sommige mensen dus behoorlijk bezighoudt.

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BLOOD traces discovered in Kate and Gerry McCann's hire car were missing Maddie's, it was sensationally claimed today.

A Portuguese newspaper alleges that tests conducted at a UK laboratory show conclusively that the blood is that of the four-year-old. Portuguese cops also apparently believe the tests back up the theory that the McCanns moved Madeleine after she died in their holiday appartment.

Kate and Gerry have vehemently denied any involvement in their daughter's disappearance. A blood sample was reportedly found by police in the boot of the Renault Scenic Kate and Gerry hired 25 days after Madeleine went missing.

A second blood sample reportedly found in their Praia da Luz holiday flat was also claimed to have come from Madeleine. Daily newspaper Correio da Manha reported: “The definitive result of the tests recently sent from England leave no doubts for the Policia Judiciaria.

“The blood found in the McCanns’ car is that of Madeleine, as well as those samples detected in the flat rented by the English and where the child, then three years old, disappeared without trace.” DNA tests already conducted at the Birmingham Forensic Science Service lab have reportedly been inconclusive.

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Op maandag 7 januari 2008 20:38 schreef voyeur het volgende:
En nog een mooi stuk proza van een poster die de reactie van Team McCann vast beschrijft:

This may need the full range of weaponry...

A "ludicrous"....

A "not enough proof"...

A ghosted article in a leading Sunday "Kate and Gerry had for many months been worried about Madeleine's propensity for nose bleeds. The blood would go everywhere. Even on to Cuddle Cat which is probably how it came to be in the back of the Scenic. They found these episodes distressing. Too distressing to mention to anyone else." That sort of thing.

Maybe even a "mystery witness":

Metodo 3 are looking for a man seen tampering with the boot of McCanns' hire car. A Mr. Mad of Colchester said: "It's only now, nearly a year later that I have come to realise the significance of what I saw. I witnessed a man who looked like Robert Murat. He had a test tube of blood in one hand and a cigarette in the other. With his free hand he was tampering with the boot. When I challenged him he replied that he was collecting children for an orphanage in Morocco, which seemed perfectly plausible at the time."

Tony Parsons has rounded on "the scu'm scientists who have nothing better to do than carry out geeky experiments on the McCann's car, and all just because
the poor di'ck-shrivellers can't get a half way decent girl into bed. Everyone knows they are innocent and will remain so however much evidence is accumulated to the contrary."

Pippa Daley-Knightley, another columnist, defends the action of the McCanns: "What's happened to good old common sense. Can't people drive around with blood in the boot? I remember once I inadvertently left my child in the car during high summer when I took the dog for a walk. Owing to the soaring temperature she was clawing at the catch on the boot in a desperate attempt to get out and the top of her finger was sliced off. There was blood everywhere - but hey, wake up and smell the coffee, that's reality for you. There is nothing untoward in the actions of the McCanns."

En nog bedankt Suko dat je me van al mijn vrije tijd beroofd hebt omdat ik nu het Mirror forum ook nog moet bijhouden

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"But yesterday a second Portuguese newspaper, Correio da Manha, claimed blood found in the McCanns' holiday apartment and hire car had been proved to be Madeleine's.

It reported that tests carried out by the Forensic Science Service in Birmingham had proved conclusively that microscopic traces of blood found behind a sofa in the apartment had come from the girl. And it said samples of bodily fluids found in the Renault Scenic, hired by the McCanns 25 days after their daughter went missing, were also definitely from Madeleine and could not have come from the two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie.

Portuguese police believe the findings support their theory that Madeleine died in an accident in her parents' care and that they hid her body and faked her abduction to cover up her death. It was previously believed that forensic tests had proved inconclusive, but more samples were sent for testing last month and the laboratory has also been using the controversial Low Copy Number technique to study microscopic samples.

Use of the technique in British legal cases was suspended last year after a judge criticised its use in the trial of the Omagh bomb suspect Sean Hoey. The couple's spokesman Clarence Mitchell called for the police to end their 'distressing' leaks to the Portuguese media and said Mr and Mrs McCann wanted to be re-interviewed and cleared as suspects.

He said: "It is ridiculous to suggest that Madeleine's blood was in the hire car, because she was never in it. It was hired over 20 days after she went missing which means it was impossible for her to ever have been in it. "Kate and Gerry were in no way involved in her death. Nor were they involved in disposing of her body. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous."

Portuguese police have prepared legal documents asking their British counterparts to re-interview the McCanns' seven friends who dined with them on the night of May 3. Detectives want to question alleged contradictions in the statements of the group and anxious to speak to Russell O'Brien and Jane Tanner following claims that the pair want to change their statements. They have denied any suggestion they want to alter their accounts of the night of May 3."

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'Bloed in auto toch van Madeleine'
Uitgegeven: 8 januari 2008 10:22
Laatst gewijzigd: 8 januari 2008 10:25

AMSTERDAM - De bloedsporen in de huurauto van Gerry en Kate McCann blijken na nader forensisch onderzoek toch van het vermiste dochtertje Madeleine te zijn. Dat meldt de Daily Mail dinsdag.

Het vermoeden dat het meisje dood is en de ouders verantwoordelijk zijn voor het dumpen van het lichaam wordt daarmee volgens de Portugese politie groter.

Beschadigd

Eerder DNA-onderzoek kon niet bevestigen dat het bloed in zowel de auto als de flat van Madeleine afkomstig is doordat het genetisch materiaal was beschadigd. Met een nieuwe techniek kon het beschadigde DNA wel goed worden onderzocht.

Zelfs kleine, beschadigde monsters kunnen met de zogenaamde 'low copy number analysis' onderzocht worden. De uitslag van de test spreekt in het voordeel van politie en justitie.

Verklaringen

De ouders hebben altijd volgehouden dat er onschuldige verklaringen zijn voor de bloedsporen. Het bloed zou afkomstig zijn van hun twee jaar oude tweeling.

De Britse krant meldt ook dat er binnenkort Portugese inspecteurs richting Engeland vertrekken om het echtpaar opnieuw te verhoren.

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The McCanns are set to turn the story of their daughter into a film. Kate and Gerry are in negotiations with the world's largest talent and entertainment agency, IMG, in a deal which could be worth millions.

The money would help fund the search for Madeleine amid fears that the £1.2 million raised from public donations will soon run out. A source close to the McCanns said: "We would only get involved with something done sensitively and considerately."

If a deal is done with IMG, it would involve using the same team that made Touching The Void, an award-winning drama-documentary about the fight for survival of two British climbers lost on a mountain. The couple are also considering a book deal and selling interviews to television broadcasters with all proceeds going to the Madeleine Fund, the body set up to finance the search for the girl.

Madeleine was six days short of her fourth birthday when she vanished from her bed in the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal on May 3. The film project will be discussed at a meeting of the fund's directors, including Gerry, tomorrow night at the McCanns' home in Rothley, Leicestershire.

The Madeleine Fund is committed to spending £50,000 a month on a Spanish private detective agency. It is also paying for a poster and television advertising campaign in Spain, Portugal and Morocco, where there have been several alleged sightings. Estimates suggest at least £500,000 has already been spent.

A source close to the McCann family said: "Donations from the public are still coming in but to sustain the fund properly, we will need larger amounts. "If the media are prepared to make donations, we will take the money. There are a few propositions out there.

"We have had a couple of large companies involved in the film industry approach us about a long-term deal. IMG and the production company behind Touching The Void have approached Kate and Gerry. They have sent them a tape to watch to see the sort of film they make. We have only had a preliminary discussion."

Touching The Void, which earned £7 million at the box office, is the most successful British-made documentary, winning best British film at the 2004 Baftas and an Evening Standard best film.

Directed by Oscar-winner Kevin Macdonald and made by the London-based production company Darlow Smithson, it tells the story of Joe Simpson and Simon Yates and their near-fatal attempt to climb a mountain in the Peruvian Andes through a mixture of interviews with them and dramatic reconstructions. A movie of the McCanns' torment in the Algarve, if made by the Touching The Void team, could follow a similar method.

The source close to the McCanns warned that the couple will only be able to begin negotiations in earnest provided their status as official suspects - or arguidos - is lifted by Portuguese police. The couple's lawyers will apply for it to be removed in the coming months, once the doctors, both aged 39, have been re-interviewed by police amid reports that forensic evidence against them is at best "indicative" of their involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

They insist the girl was abducted from their holiday apartment eight months ago as they ate at a nearby tapas restaurant and that she could still be alive. The source added: "The million-pound film deal is possible. It is the sort of thing we would look at seriously because in one fell swoop we could resolve the funding of the search overnight.

"What would really help is for the arguido status to be lifted and then a wave of sympathy would lead to more money coming in." The meeting tomorrow follows the resignation of key board members, including the fund's spokeswoman Esther McVey.

The fund agreed a deal in the autumn to pay the Barcelona-based agency Metodo 3 a retainer of £50,000 a month for six months to find Madeleine. Metodo 3 has come in for criticism over comments made by its boss Francisco Marco, including one that he knew who kidnapped Madeleine and a promise to find her by Christmas.

The fund has also been criticised for paying two months' worth of mortgage payments, amounting to a few thousand pounds, on the McCanns' home while they were in Portugal and unable to work. The services of the family's official spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, as well as the McCanns' legal team, is paid for by the couple's multi-millionaire supporter Brian Kennedy. Daily Mail

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Portuguese prosecutors have begun moves to reinterview witnesses in the case of missing Madeleine McCann. It is believed that they may want British police to speak to seven friends who dined with Madeleine's parents on the night she was last seen.

Kate and Gerry McCann, both 39, are official suspects in the case along with British ex-pat Robert Murat, 33. Madeleine, four, from Rothley, Leicestershire, was last seen in Praia da Luz in Portugal on 3 May last year. The McCanns dined with their friends at a tapas restaurant as they left Madeleine and their two other children asleep in their nearby apartment.

In November, one of the group, Jane Tanner, told the BBC she saw a man carrying a child through the resort at about 2115 on 3 May. At the time she said she thought nothing of it, but realised the potential significance after she learned of Madeleine's disappearance at about 2200.

The BBC's Alison Roberts, in Portugal, said that for months there had been speculation that prosecutors would seek to reinterview people involved in the case and now they have said that process has begun.

The spokesman for the McCanns, Clarence Mitchell, told BBC News 24 that if the reports were correct the family would welcome them. "We have been saying for a long time now that, frankly, it's about time that the police came to reinterview anyone they need to reinterview," he said. "We feel that any inconsistencies the police are concerned about in any original statements from Gerry and Kate's friends can easily be cleared up through these reinterviews.

"And the sooner it happens the better, because we believe it will lead the police to realise there is no case against Gerry and Kate and it will lead to them being eliminated and their arguido [suspect] status lifted."

Initial request

Much of the police investigation has focused on the timeline of events on that night, and the group of friends - the so-called Tapas Nine - have been key to piecing it together. As well as the McCanns and Ms Tanner, they included Matthew and Rachael Oldfield, Russell O'Brien and Fiona Payne. Our correspondent said prosecutors in Portugal had made contact with Eurojust, the European Union's judicial cooperation unit, which deals with requests to allow police in one country to interview someone previously questioned in another.

She said that if the request was granted Portuguese detectives would be expected to travel to the UK as observers, but not to participate in any new questioning. Earlier, on Tuesday the McCanns' spokesman confirmed that the couple were considering allowing a documentary film crew to follow the continuing search for their daughter.

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Op dinsdag 8 januari 2008 23:04 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Nee, nee, het tij keert. Zie de Sun, zie het toelaten van negatief getinte commentaren op de Engelse tabloid reactie gedeeltes, zie bijvoorbeeld ook dit artikel http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=506889&in_page_id=1770 en zie ook dat ze plots de MçCann's heten en niet meer Kate en Gerry. Een telltale sign dat de tabloids omdraaien. Zie ook de andere gelinkte artikelen in dat artikel. Plots krijgt de woordvoerder van de McCann's een zuinige regel en worden de belastende verklaringen vrij nadrukkelijk gebracht.

Van Hero to Zero is gaande en lijkt nu onafwendbaar.

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Op dinsdag 8 januari 2008 20:57 schreef Loedertje het volgende:
McCanns in gesprek over verfilming zaak Madeleine
Uitgegeven: 8 januari 2008 17:51
Laatst gewijzigd: 8 januari 2008 20:25

LONDEN - De ouders van de verdwenen Britse kleuter Madeleine McCann zijn in gesprek met mediabedrijf IMG over plannen om het verhaal rondom de verdwijning van hun dochter te verfilmen.

Dit meldden Britse media dinsdag.

Volgens de woordvoerder van de familie willen de McCanns met de film de aandacht voor de verdwijning vasthouden en geld genereren voor het 'Vind Madeleine Fonds'. Het echtpaar overweegt ook een boek over de zaak te schrijven.

Nieuwe verdachte

In Portugese en Britse media werd dinsdag gespeculeerd over een mogelijke nieuwe verdachte in de zaak, namelijk Michaela Walczuch, de vriendin van verdachte Robert Murat.

Ook zou het bloed op de achterbank van de weken na de verdwijning door de McCanns gehuurde auto inderdaad van Madeleine zijn.

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Op dinsdag 8 januari 2008 23:50 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Nee Swetsenegger, dit topic is al tijden gesloten.

En ja Suko, mannen hebben minder last van incontinentie, maar ik bescheurde me ook. Ik ga vanavond nog met een rietje in mijn keel en wat rode wijn aan de slag. Daarna ga ik rondrijden met 15 kg rottend vlees onder het reservewiel en kijken of een hond iets geks ruikt na vijf weken. Wij hebben geen hond dus moeten er een lenen, maar misschien dat we zelf iets geks ruiken?

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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 00:01 schreef Suko het volgende:
De commentaren... Off to bed.

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Ye gods! The original series is still going on and already they're planning the repeats!

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Clarence Mitchell said: "We've not agreed anything, we're not about to sign anything. We like the proposal, we thought it was fair, but there are others." .


"Any money raised that way would go to the fund, which Kate and Gerry do not control. This is not about personal gain for them.

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"Madeleine's Fund is spent on investigators and advertising. It's dwindling. The money is going. I would imagine we've got a few months left. It's not going to last the year unless we get more money in."

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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 00:23 schreef Jane het volgende:

Die commentaren indeed! Ik moest stiekem toch erg lachen om deze:
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This is just apalling, they wouldn't even let Ben Affleck release his movie in the UK because of the sensitive nature of the investigation and because the kid in the film resembled Madeleine and now they want to make a movie about their own daughter?

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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 00:29 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Donaties zijn altijd goed toch? De directeur van het fonds heeft ontslag genomen want die heeft 'nieuwe uitdagingen' volgens de spin doctors, maar ze zitten ook net voor het jaarverslag van de accountant waaruit zal blijken dat Searching for Madeleine donaties naar de hypotheek van de McCann's ging dus wie weet wou ze gewoon haar huid redden. Ratten weten vaak beter dan de bemanning wanneer het zinkend schip verlaten moet worden.

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"Clarence Mitchell, the family's spokesman, said: "We have had a number of preliminary meetings. Nothing has been confirmed and we are certainly not working in conjunction with any one particular organisation, film-maker or publisher at this stage."

He added that the film was not about making a profit for the family, but about keeping Madeleine's profile high and "finding their little girl".

The 39-year-old couple were, he said, extremely sensitive to public perception about anything they do to keep their daughter's disappearance in the public's mind. He added: "The criteria we have for doing anything is: How will this help find Madeleine? That is the bottom line.

"In the case of a book or a film, or a much longer-term project, there is the question of whether it helps generate some money for the fund to find her, and, if it doesn't help find Madeleine, whether it raises some of the issues that her disappearance throws up, such as the lack of a system of child alerts in Europe in the way that there is a system for alerting the whole country in America.

"There will be no personal gain for the McCanns whatsoever. This is not about making a profit for Gerry and Kate. This is about finding their little girl. "Any money that exists has to go into the general pot to pay for our private investigators, advertising etc."

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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 12:36 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Inderdaad, mensen denken vaak alleen maar aan de laatste berichten, gelukkig trappen wij er niet in!
Dus ze denken dat Maddy al veel eerder dan de 3e mei vermoord/verongelukt is?
Hoe zouden ze dat hebben moeten klaarspelen?
Ik weet niet goed hoe ik dit moet zien, er zijn toch wel mensen die de familie McCann hebben gezien in PDL?
Persoonlijk vind ik de theorie dat Kate Maddy iets aan heeft gedaan de avond van de 2e mei het meeste hout snijden, toen die bovenbuuf dat geschreeuw om daddy heeft gehoord en een Kate die door het lint ging.

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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 14:12 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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dat stukje wat voyeur heeft gepost neem ik met een overbekend korreltje zout, niets ten nadele van hem maar ik denk niet dat het waar is, domweg omdat dit nergens toe zou kunnen leiden in mijn ogen.
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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 14:12 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Tja, biechtgeheim is a bitch in deze, het zal ongetwijfeld heel indrukwekkend zijn geweest, ik denk dat je met het dikgedrukte wel eens gelijk kan hebben, een heel mooi afscheid en doordat de McCanns ongetwijfeld ter biecht zijn gegaan kunnen de geestelijken niet getuigen, als het echt een ongeluk is geweest en ze hebben hen daarvan weten te overtuigen dan zal een priester/pastoor zijn biechtgeheim niet breken, dat kunnen/mogen ze doen als er iemand in eminent gevaar verkeerd of als er sprake is van een koudbloedige moord, het zou wel verklaren waarom pater Pacheo uit de wind wordt gehouden door de kerk en waarom hij is verdwenen toen.

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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 14:39 schreef Nadine26 het volgende:

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Maar denk jij serieus dat deze luitjes, als ze de hele wereld voor de gek hebben gehouden, tijdens de biecht opeens wél oprecht zijn geweest? Dat zou mooi zijn, zeg. Het biechtgeheim mag dan heilig zijn, me dunkt dat je eigen kinderen heel wat heiliger zijn dan die poppenkast voor zo'n man in een lange jurk.

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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 14:09 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Een erg lang verhaal, maar goed opgebouwd en nuttig voor mensen die de zaak niet zo close volgen. Het legt goed uit waarom het ons zo bezighoudt of beter gezegd dwarszit. Komt van een poster op het Mirror forum.
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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 15:07 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Wat weer een rookgordijnen, zoveel non-nieuws in de media, de echte berichten sneeuwen zo wel onder, waarom zouden ze nog meer geld nodig hebben? Zouden ze een rechtzaak verwachten? Het geld mag daar hoop ik nog steeds niet voor gebruikt worden toch?

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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 15:45 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Oh Kahaarin, maar er is veel geld nodig als je een celebrity leven ambieert hoor. Verkijk je daar niet op.

Overigens is er 80.000 pond zojuist besteed aan een publiciteitscampagne in Spanje, Portugal en Marokko. Ik verzeker je dat niemand daar iets van gezien heeft. Ik woon zelf in Spanje maar ook andere forummers in die landen kunnen zich niet één commercial, billboard of wat dan ook voor de geest halen in de laatste maand.

(en ik deel je frustratie, maar ik ben positief gestemd: alles sal rech komen)

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The short answer to that question is that we don't know.

The Fund's organisers have refused to say how much has been spent but have confirmed that money donated by the public was made available for the family's living expenses.

In October, it was revealed that the Fund had been used to make mortgage payments on the McCanns' family home in Rothley. It is believed that two payments were made but that does not necessarily mean it was only for two months. It could possibly have included an arrears payment. We just don't know because the fund are not prepared to divulge that information.

The Fund has also met legal fees involved in setting up the Limited Company, which does not have charitable status. But the Fund's directors, which includes colleagues, friends and relatives of the McCanns, ruled that they cannot use it to pay the legal team defending them against Portuguese allegations that they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance. That has been met by a separate fund, using donations from wealthy benefactors including Sir Richard Branson.

The salary of the McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell is paid by another millionaire, double-glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy. But Madeleine's Fund has paid for other staff, including former campaign manager Justine McGuinness,

In the weeks after Madeleine's disappearance it paid for her parents' campaign trips to Madrid, Amsterdam, Berlin, Washington DC and the Moroccan capital, Rabat.

It was revealed in September that about £300,000 had been spent, and that up to £80,000 was paid out for a new publicity campaign in Portugal, Spain and Morocco.

Donations have slowed dramatically, however, since the McCanns were made official suspects in the case.

Exact details of where the money has gone is unlikely to be made public for some time. The first accounts are not due until January 2009 and even then it is unlikely they will provide much detail as to how the money has been spent. Fund officials said an administrator had been appointed to ensure "the highest standards of transparency and accountability".

Mr Mitchell said in October: "The Fund exists to support Kate and Gerry where their living costs would become difficult. Gerry is going back to work this week and they hope they will not have to rely on it for their living costs for much longer."

It is also unclear exactly how much money has come into the Fund from donations, merchandise sales and interest. The official findmadeleine.com site carries a running total but this is very rarely updated and currently displays the donations figure only (which is £1,223,629.31 at 08 January 2008).

Incomings:

£1,223,629.31 + merchandise sales + interest

Outgoings:

£300,000 - Setting up the fund/Misc expenses/Promotional

£51,000 - Fees to Justine McGuiness as official spokesperson, based on £350 per day for 89 days (£31,150) + overtime payments and expenses - including bar and restaurant bills (£19,850).

£300,000 - Metodo 3* (based on 6 month contract @ £50,000 per month).

£4,000+ - Mortgage payments + 'living expenses'

£657,000+ Total expenditure

* Note: Spanish television channel Antena 3 claimed, in early December, to have permission from detective agency Metodo 3 to reveal that they were receiving their payment from Brian Kennedy not Madeleine's Fund or anyone else. Clarence Mitchell has made clear statements previously that Metodo 3's bills are being met by the fund.

On 22 December 2007 he is quoted as saying: "We will review Metodo 3’s contract as we would naturally with any contract. It’s an expensive operation but we are pleased with their work. All the directors want is value for money." (Link to quote) Bron

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Op woensdag 9 januari 2008 19:08 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Er zou dus nog een kleine 600.000 pond over moeten zijn toch?

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In September they hired the Spanish agency Metodo 3 on a six month contract.

The agency will seek to have that renewed next month, but even if the fund directors agree it is likely to be a shorter term contract because of the financial uncertainty surrounding the fund.

Realistically, if no investment is forthcoming, the McCanns will be forced to call the agency's search to a halt and end their proactive hunt for Madeleine. The stark reality facing them has forced the couple to rethink their PR strategy, and are now looking at offers that have been on the table for eight months, and which they hoped they would never have to consider.

Clarence Mitchell, their official spokesman, said: "In theory by the summer the pot will run dry but we are taking steps to make sure that does not happen. "Hopefully we would have found Madeleine by then." He said private donations from the public were still coming in, and the fund had been boosted by £100,000 following a Christmas appeal.

The couple are considering getting involved in a docudrama with IMG, the makers of the award winning film Touching The Void, but Mr Mitchell said they would only undertake such projects if a donation to the fund was made and if they tackled wider issues and did not concentrate solely on Madeleine's disappearance.

Mr Mitchell said the couple were keen to highlight the lack of a proper co-ordinated response throughout Europe when a child goes missing, as opposed to a system used by America whereby a country-wide alert goes out within minutes of the alarm being raised.

He added: "If, God forbid, Madeleine is never found and the legacy is that no other family has to feel this way, at least some good would have come out of this appalling situation." However, the couple may be hampered because until their status as official suspects in the case is lifted, they are unable to publicly comment on what has happened, and Mr Mitchell said they would not be doing anything until they were formally freed from the investigation, which he admitted could yet be for several years.

The McCanns have agreed to a piece with the magazine Vanity Fair, which has also interviewed Robert Murat, to be published shortly, in an attempt, Mr Mitchell said, to widen awareness of Madeleine’s case in America. The fund's managers have a regular monthly meeting and are due to have one more meeting before Metodo 3's contract runs out, when they will decide whether to renew its contract.

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MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann

DAILY MIRROR front page: “MADELEINE: THE BIG INTERVIEW”

“Our regret”

“GERRY: I wish we have never gone to the tapas bar”
“KATE: I wish I’d seen the stranger watching us”

“READ THEIR HEARTBREAKING WORDS INSIDE”

Voyeurs, campaigners, police and handwringers come see the pain, the suffering the agony. Prepare to be heartbroken!

“Riddled with guilt, the distraught” Gerry will tell all to the Mirror. Well, not to the Mirror, rather to Vanity Fair magazine. Journalist Judy Bachrach spoke with Gerry in October near the family home in Rothley, Leicestershire

And the interview is not with Gerry and Kate. Only Gerry McCann was interviewed, says the Mail. Kate McCann’s words come via friends and family

Pages 4 and 5: “I WISH”.

It reads very much like a prayer, or a camping speech by Barack Obama. Says Gerry McCann:

“I wish I hadn’t gone to the tapas bar.
“I wish I’d have stayed in the apartment that night
“I wish I’d stayed in the room when I checked on her five minutes longer”

A wish…

Says Gerry McCann: “”At the time we did it, it was not irresponsible. Of course we feel guilty about not having been there and that is just something we have to deal with for the rest of our lives. You are not asking anything we don’t think about on a daily basis. We live this 24 hours a day”

Gerry says his world went “all black, with maybe tiny points of light” in the days after Madeleine vanished. “We can’t cry our eyes out every day because that’s not helping. So after three days I picked myself up…quicker than Kate could. Grief washes over you. It’s like a big wave, mostly I was able to beat it back”

And the Madeleine ‘Look into my eyes’ campaign? Says Gerry: “We thought it was possible this could hurt her. Her abductor might do something to her eye. But in marketing terms it was a good ploy”

THE SUN: “Life’s bleak but I cling to hope”

Says Gerry McCann: “People can support you in your darkest hours and in our case the darkest hour was of course when Madeleine went missing. Now it is just bleak”

In next month’s Vanity Fair: “The interview with Gerry came as it emerged GORDON BROWN has snubbed the McCanns’ request for a meeting; furious Kate EXPLODED when cops first told her she was a suspect; and family spokesman Clarence Mitchell has given a university SPEECH on the topic Missing Maddie McCann — the perfect PR campaign

“A pal of the McCanns said Kate, 39, believes the family were STALKED by Maddie’s kidnapper in the days before she went missing”. WOW

COUPLE hit back on film. Says Clarence Mitchell, the spokesperson: “It is not us being greedy. It is us being needy“

DAILY MAIL: “It’s all my fault, admits Maddie’s father”

Well, not quite. Gerry McCann is making no confession. He maintains that the fault lies with a kidnapper. Says the Mail: “Gerry McCann is tortured by guilt that Madeleine’s disappearance is his fault”

Will he tell all? Mr McCann tells Vanity Fair’s Judy Bachrach: “I can’t talk to you about the details of what happened. I live under threat from the Portuguese - if I do talk - of two years’ imprisonment”

“THIRD POLICE SUSPECT BREAKS HIS SILENCE” – Says Robert Murat to Vanity Fair: “All I can say is that I am innocent”

DAILY EXPRESS front page: “MADELEINE - MOTHER IS SHUNNED BY PRIEST”

Page 9: “KATE’S SCREAMS AS POLICE TOLD HER: YOU’RE A SUSPECT – KATE McCann screamed when told by police that she was a suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance, it emerged yesterday. Opening the door of her rented villa to a Portuguese officer the family had come to know, Kate, 39, shouted: ‘Do you honestly believe that I would murder my own child?’”

Gerry McCann is a “39-year-old cardiologist”. Facts!

On the speculation: “Gerry says bitterly: ‘Yes, yes, I know. Kate killed her in a frenzy, Madeleine was sedated by us, she fell down the stairs – in which case you would have thought they’d have found her body. I’ve heard all of that. There are a huge number of theories in the media. But what I want to know is, who told them all that?’”

DAILY STAR: “Anguished and painfully thin, his wife Kate was too upset to answer even a single question during the interview with glossy US magazine Vanity Fair. Gerry revealed in the 7,500-word magazine article he had to be coaxed by a counsellor into talking publicly about his daughter in the days after she disappeared”

DAILY RECORD: “Maddie’s Dad: Slim Chance Of Getting Her Back”

“Distraught Gerry McCann has admitted the chances of him seeing his missing daughter Madeleine again are ‘slim’”

VANITY FAIR: “Unanswered Prayers”

“After three-year-old Madeleine McCann disappeared on a family vacation in Portugal, her parents pursued a high-stakes strategy: media saturation. It succeeded beyond their wildest imaginings—winning the aid of everyone from J. K. Rowling to the Pope—and failed miserably. Getting the first in-depth interview with Gerry McCann since he and his wife, Kate, were declared suspects, the author re-traces their footsteps to their daughter’s empty bed”

And then a policeman appeared. His name Ricardo. “Because for months they used to have regular weekly meetings with the Portuguese police, and then they stopped,” recalls Gerry’s older sister Trish Cameron

“Do you have something to tell us?” Ricardo asked.

“No,” Kate replied. “Do you have something to tell us?”

“He nodded. “Yes. You are being made arguidos”…

Eight months of talking - read it all…

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 10:52 schreef Suko het volgende:

Madeleine McCann: Gerry McCann Talks With Vanity Fair

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En dat dit: Why the McCanns would be mad to make a film of Madeleine's abduction
Een vergelijking met de film Lorenzo's Oil: "Sure enough, in 1990, George Miller, the Australian director who went on to make Happy Feet, contacted my father. He wanted to make a Hollywood movie about "Lorenzo's Oil", as my parents had called the oil they'd developed."

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 12:07 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
@Yvonne, dankje!
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En wat moeten we hier van denken?
Ik denk dat ze toch wel 'haar soort' wil beschermen, toch een beetje vaag dat ze precies het (glazen) oog van Murat weet te beschrijven, maar dat kan ze ook uit de pers hebben of van de PI's van de McCanns natuurlijk, we shall see.

http://ionglobaltrends.bl(...)-certain-it-was.html

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 13:03 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Overigens ook een mooi citaat uit het Vanity Fair interview:

"''And Kate says she told friends: “I hope whoever has Madeleine is giving her blankets, is feeding her properly, is keeping her warm.”

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 13:04 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Madeleine's Fund
Tributes in Rothley on 17 May 2007A fund-raising company, known as Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned, was launched in Leicester on 16 May 2007. The Fund is a limited company, not a registered charity, because its objectives are not wide enough to satisfy Charity Commission criteria for UK charities.[34] The objectives include helping the family with their expenses and continuing the investigation independently should that prove necessary. Any excess funds would be used to help search for other abducted children[35] The Fund's website reportedly received 58 million hits and 16,000 messages of support by 18 May, only two days after its launch.[36] Over £1,036,000 had been raised by 11 September 2007.[37]


13 dagen dus, het heeft niet lang geduurd voordat ze daarmee begonnen.

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 13:29 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Ironie om maar eens met voyeur te spreken , om het niet bijtend sarcasme te noemen, ik snap niet hoe een moeder dit soort dingen over haar lippen weet te krijgen, in mijn ogen ten hemel schreiend.

Ik vind 13 dagen aardig snel, toen was er nog helemaal niets bekend over wat dan ook, die machine is erg snel op gang gekomen.

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 12:07 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
@Yvonne, dankje!
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En wat moeten we hier van denken?
Ik denk dat ze toch wel 'haar soort' wil beschermen, toch een beetje vaag dat ze precies het (glazen) oog van Murat weet te beschrijven, maar dat kan ze ook uit de pers hebben of van de PI's van de McCanns natuurlijk, we shall see.

http://ionglobaltrends.bl(...)-certain-it-was.html

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 13:04 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Madeleine's Fund
Tributes in Rothley on 17 May 2007A fund-raising company, known as Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned, was launched in Leicester on 16 May 2007. The Fund is a limited company, not a registered charity, because its objectives are not wide enough to satisfy Charity Commission criteria for UK charities.[34] The objectives include helping the family with their expenses and continuing the investigation independently should that prove necessary. Any excess funds would be used to help search for other abducted children[35] The Fund's website reportedly received 58 million hits and 16,000 messages of support by 18 May, only two days after its launch.[36] Over £1,036,000 had been raised by 11 September 2007.[37]


13 dagen dus, het heeft niet lang geduurd voordat ze daarmee begonnen.

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 14:20 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
@Suko, ik ben tot halverwege pag. 2 gekomen, wat een drama verhaal, allemaal oud nieuws en zo totaal gemaakt om sypathie (lees: donaties) op te wekken dat ik er misselijk van werd, nogmaals het gaat helemaal niet meer om of over Maddy maar om een campagne die de ouders moet vrijpleiten.
Wat een BS, zouden er echt nog mensen zijn die er in trappen?

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 14:20 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
@Suko, ik ben tot halverwege pag. 2 gekomen, wat een drama verhaal, allemaal oud nieuws en zo totaal gemaakt om sypathie (lees: donaties) op te wekken dat ik er misselijk van werd, nogmaals het gaat helemaal niet meer om of over Maddy maar om een campagne die de ouders moet vrijpleiten.
Wat een BS, zouden er echt nog mensen zijn die er in trappen?

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 15:10 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Ik zou bijna zeggen gelukkig maar, ik blijf van mening dat zolang ze nog niet met overtuigend bewijs vrijgepleit kunnen worden er niet zoveel aandacht moet zijn voor hun verhaaltjes en gespin in de media, ze zijn nota bene verdachten in de verdwijning van hun dochter en er is bewijs tegen hen gvonden en er zijn een heleboel zaken nog niet duidelijk, ik vind niet dat hen een platform gegund mag worden waarop zij de kans hebben omzichzelf vrij te pleiten en de opinie te veranderen.

@Suko, dus het is nog sneller gegaan dan we aanvankelijk dachten, zou jij daar als eerste aan denken als jouw neefje/nichtje werd vermist? Als er heel duidelijk is gezegd dat dergelijke verdwijningen gebaat zijn bij een gedegen onderzoek en zo min mogelijk media aandacht?

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 14:59 schreef voyeur het volgende:

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Ik heb het origineel (dus niet de verknipte versie uiit de Engelse pers) helemaal gelezen en het is echt uiterst kritisch over de McCann's. De Amerikanen krijgen geen positief beeld van het echtpaar.

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Op donderdag 10 januari 2008 18:17 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Ik bedoelde gewoon dat op forums een verknipte versie rondzwierf die veel positiever voor de McCann's was.

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he search for Madeleine McCann has been hijacked by her parents' "gigantic propaganda machine", Portuguese police have claimed.

Officers lashed out against Kate and Gerry McCann's slick PR operation after learning they had granted an interview to glossy magazine Vanity Fair, and could even make £2million from a film about their daughter's disappearance. A source close to the investigation said detectives were furious about the latest publicity, which came as formal requests for the McCanns' friends to be reinterviewed were sent to Britain.

Police are also skeptical about "a surge" of new witnesses traced by the couple's private detective agency, Metodo 3, the Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha reported. The unnamed source said: "Who do the McCanns think they are?

"The discovery of new witnesses in the last few weeks have led authorities to believe they are battling against a gigantic propaganda machine. "The McCanns have some very powerful people on their side - millionaires, celebrities and even politicians."

A second official dismissed the work of the couple's detective agency as "diversion tactics", aimed at distracting police away from the McCanns, who are still official suspects in the case. He said: "Their tactics are really beginning to annoy us. Whenever a decisive date approaches the company takes a new rabbit out of the hat."

The attacks are a clear indication of the anger that the McCanns' publicity campaign has caused in Portugal, where police investigations are usually carried out in secret. Mr McCann, 39, gave the interview alone in October, without his wife Kate, after being approached by the magazine. Vanity Fair also spoke to the couple's friends and family as well as to the other suspect in the case, Robert Murat. Clarence Mitchell, the family's spokesman, said Mr McCann had not been paid by Vanity Fair and had instead requested donations to the fund in return for cooperation with future projects.

He said the Find Madeleine campaign was to take on a "commercial dimension" to keep it in the black. It emerged on Tuesday that the couple could make £2million from a film about Madeleine's disappearance. Other projects could include a book deal and even TV chat shows which the McCanns have shunned in the past for fear of seeming like celebrities.

The £1.2million fund to finance the search for Madeleine has been halved by the cost of hiring private detectives, running adverts and paying the family's living costs. Only £600,000 remains and the balance is expected to drop to only £346,000 by April and possibly zero by June.

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Op vrijdag 11 januari 2008 17:48 schreef Suko het volgende:
Dit stukje uit je post is wel interessant: "The Find Madeleine Fund, which is paying them from public donations but which is beginning to run short of money, will announce next month whether the contract is being renewed. Much will rest on the thoughts of Brian Kennedy, the double glazing magnate who is funding the McCann’s attempts to clear their name, who holds the contract with Metodo 3." Voor mij blijkt hieruit dat die Kennedy mogelijk wél Metodo 3 uit eigen zak betaald. Ik heb ergens gelezen dat er niet eerder dan 2009 openheid van zaken komt wat betreft de bestedingen tot nu toe, het is absoluut niet duidelijk wie wat betaald.

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As someone in the trade I can confirm, absolutely, that's the case, and Sky News and the Murdoch media empire are well on-track to secure the rights, with only Richard Branson's financing the parents being a problem.

Sky News were given the very first, exclusive interview with the McCanns just days after the child was reported missing. A bizarre thing for the McCanns to do: selling their story to just one media outlet was the least efective way of getting their message out. An open-to-all press/media conference would have been far more appropriate, but of course would pay far less... It would also would have meant having to answer questions from lots of awkward journalists rather than just the one, with the pre-arranged questions...

For those in the media trade, that was the first real sign that this whole missing child affair was not what it seemed. We have yet to be proved wrong...

As we all know, from the very earliest days pounds signs have been the guiding influence in everything the McCanns have done, and nothing has changed recently.

The desire to empty the official fund before the first anniversary is entirely understandable. The McCanns know they cannot get away with using it personally any more, and that details of much more than just mortgage payments will have to be revealed in due course...

As the first anniversary approaches (and make no mistake, plans are well under way for this - in the full knowledge that short of a miracle by the PJ, turning up the body, Madeleine will still be missing...) the McCanns will want all the book, programme and film deals signed ready. The million pound fund (and all the as yet unaccounted for interest...) will pale into insignificance beside the money the McCanns will personally make as we enter Year Two.

Be under no illusion - hiring Metodo 3 had nothing to do with finding a child, but was a brilliant dramatic move on Team McCann's part, as will be their dismissal and replacement of Metodo in the New Year. This whole affair has been so sickeningly well orchestrated as to be almost unbelievable.

The film script is almost certainly well underway, and quite likely several endings are already being discussed. Safe to presume none of them involve Madeleine being returned alive...

The book, likewise, is as good as written several times over, and a safe bet Clarence is already negotiating for final rights...

With Murdoch and Sky/The Sun/Times/20th Century Fox on one side and Branson and Virgin Media on the other, the parents are going to be set up for life if the PJ fail to secure a conviction...

Of course, Clarence wins either way. His inside knowledge of the couple will secure his financial future whatever the fate of the parents......Bron

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The Portuguese prosecutor in the case of Madeleine McCann has applied for files to be kept secret for longer. The request means the three official suspects, who include Madeleine's parents, cannot yet discover what case police have against them.

Case files are usually opened eight months after police start their investigation on an individual. Madeleine, four, from Rothley, Leics, was last seen in Praia da Luz in the Algarve on 3 May last year. Prosecutors can ask a judge to keep files closed on the grounds that opening them would undermine the ongoing investigation.

Filed request

Next Monday marks eight months since British expatriate Robert Murat was declared the first arguido, or official suspect. But the BBC has learned prosecutors have already filed their request to keep the files closed. The judge's decision on secrecy will apply to all those involved in the case.

Therefore, if he accepts the prosecutor's argument, Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, will also continue with no access to the evidence, if any, police have against them. The investigation itself continues, with prosecutors still finalising their formal request for witnesses to be interviewed in the UK.

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Madeleine McCann was raped, murdered and her body dumped in a reservoir within 48 hours of her disappearance, a lawyer claimed. Underworld criminals contacted a human rights lawyer on May 6, three days after the girl vanished, with details of her alleged abduction and murder, he said. But when Marcos Aragao Correia tried to tell police, he was ignored, he added.

The lawyer has contacted Kate and Gerry McCann's detective agency, which has begun to investigate his theory. If true, Mr Correia, 32, believes it would clear the couple of suspicion that they were involved in their daughter's disappearance. He refused to reveal his underworld sources but said: "They indicated that Madeleine had been abducted, raped and murdered within the first two days after her abduction, and her body thrown into a lake in the Algarve."

From the description of the location that he was given, Mr Correia deduced that Madeleine's body is at the bottom of the Barragem do Arade reservoir, near Silves, 40 miles from Praia da Luz. The lawyer, from Madeira, travelled to the Algarve to investigate the claims and visited the reservoir, 150ft deep in places, with Metodo 3 last month.

In an interview with the Portuguese magazine Lux, Mr Correia said: "It is the ideal place for somebody to get rid of a body, practically without leaving any trace." He said Metodo 3 was "very interested" in his information. "Police sources told Lux they did not believe Mr Correia's information was credible.">>> het hele artikel Daily Mail

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Op vrijdag 11 januari 2008 20:14 schreef Suko het volgende:
Sky News were given the very first, exclusive interview with the McCanns just days after the child was reported missing. A bizarre thing for the McCanns to do: selling their story to just one media outlet was the least efective way of getting their message out. An open-to-all press/media conference would have been far more appropriate, but of course would pay far less... It would also would have meant having to answer questions from lots of awkward journalists rather than just the one, with the pre-arranged questions...

For those in the media trade, that was the first real sign that this whole missing child affair was not what it seemed. We have yet to be proved wrong...

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Op zaterdag 12 januari 2008 11:43 schreef milagro het volgende:
jammer alleen dat Joran na de uitzending alsnog zijn beheersing verloor

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Op vrijdag 11 januari 2008 21:51 schreef Suko het volgende:
>knip<

Eigenlijk lees ik hier uit dat langzamerhand men het publiek laat 'wennen' dat ze denken dat Madeleine niet meer leeft, tenslotte moet die eventuele film/boek whatever toch een soort einde krijgen, daar houden regisseurs/schrijvers van, en ook het publiek. En het is weer een afleidingsmanouvre, vooral niet de aandacht op de ouders, formeel verdachten, vestigen...

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Kate and Gerry McCann have been told that the proposed documentary about their daughter's disappearance can go ahead only if she is found – alive or dead. At a meeting last month with entertainment agency IMG, it was explained to the couple's representatives that the search for four-year-old Madeleine must reach a 'conclusion' before production on the film can begin.

A source said: 'It was awkward to raise but there would need to be an ending – either Madeleine being found alive or a body being discovered. "If this wasn't the case, and there was a major development after filming and editing, it could render the documentary redundant."

Channel 4 and production company Darlow Smithson are handling the controversial project and have lined up highly regarded director Louise Osmond. It is thought a film could earn the McCanns as much as £2million, which would help towards the cost of the search for their daughter, who disappeared from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, last May.

The couple's official spokesman, Clarence Mitchell said they would consider only "something done sensitively and considerately". It is believed that the McCanns' representatives were attracted to the proposal because of a previous Darlow Smithson documentary about a teenage girl who vanished in the United States in 2002.

The 14-year-old was snatched from her bedroom in Salt Lake City by a religious maniac but found safe nine months later. There was another blow for the McCanns yesterday when the authorities in Morocco – identified by their detective agency Metodo 3 as a key area in the search for Madeleine – declared there was "no evidence of her being here". Daily Mail

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Op zaterdag 12 januari 2008 15:03 schreef Oksel het volgende:
Joran van der Sloot heeft na de uitzending een glas rode wijn in het gezicht van Peter R de Vries gegooid..

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MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann

SUNDAY MIRROR: “Tapas 7 in despair at all the ‘lies’”

They say they are also called the Tapas Nine? And the Sangria Seven.

“The Tapas Seven are “in meltdown” over the failure of Portuguese police to make any meaningful progress in the hunt for Madeleine”

“IT’S OUR D-DAY - McCanns return to Portugal - EXCLUSIVE Kate and Gerry set date in April for Algarve showdown They’ll tell cops: show your evidence or clear us for good”. Like that D-Day back on November?

“Despairing Kate and Gerry McCann are planning to return to Portugal for a face-to-face showdown with police who think they killed their daughter Madeleine”

They are going back. Now..?

Well, not exactly: “A close friend said the the couple were likely to go back after their ‘D-Day’ of April 11, when their three-month extension is up, and added: ‘They feel they’ve waited long enough with this cloud of suspicion hanging over them. They know their return would be very high-profile. They believe investigators do not have the evidence against them to bring charges, and their presence in Portugal would embarrass them. They’ve so far held off going back there, but they see it as their trump card”

They will go back once they have been allowed to see the police first on them

Says the paper’s source: “They see April 11 as their D-day. They have decided to give the police reasonable time to clear them, or at least open the case files so they can see the evidence against them”

That’s good of them…

FIONA Philips, of GMTV writes: “Have a heart”. Yes, that Fiona Philips

“Unbelievably, every time I write about the McCanns I get messages saying, ‘I used to like you, until you started supporting the McCanns.’ Nice, eh? So I hope you’re happy now that Kate and Gerry have blamed themselves for Madeleine’s disappearance”

Happy?

“In a list of ‘if onlys’, Gerry said: ‘I wish I’d stayed in the apartment that night.’ Now, I expect more bile on praising them for considering making a documentary on the case. Surely you can’t tell me that there’s a parent out there who wouldn’t do anything possible to find their missing child?”

SUNDAY PEOPLE: “’We pray she’ll be at party for twins’”

“Brave Kate McCann is planning a huge birthday party for her twins - and dreams missing Maddie will be there too. Kate, 39, has vowed to go ahead with the bash for Sean and Amelie even though she is still waiting for cops to quiz her again. Mother-in-law Eileen said: ‘The party’s on and it will be an even bigger one if wee Madeleine is back. All we can do is hope and pray.’ Sean and Amelie turn three on February”

Touching stuff. Gerry McCann is a “heart specialist”

MAIL ON SUNDAY: “Madeleine: No film will be made unless she’s found - alive or dead”

“Kate and Gerry McCann have been told that the proposed documentary about their daughter’s disappearance can go ahead only if she is found – alive or dead.

A source says: “It was awkward to raise but there would need to be an ending – either Madeleine being found alive or a body being discovered. If this wasn’t the case, and there was a major development after filming and editing, it could render the documentary redundant”

Or the parents or some other person or persons are charged, perhaps?

THE OBSERVER: “A good week for … a bad week for …”

“A bad week for …

“Tradition – A Lib Dem MP called Lynne Featherstone has made a bid for the limelight by reporting the monarchy to the Equality Commission because it goes in for primogeniture”

“Marcus Agius The chairman of Barclay’s was the target of £10,000 fraud”

“Good Taste - Or indeed any taste at all. A London based agency which supplies celebrity doubles has employed a small girl to rent out as Madeleine McCann. 20 per cent”

It was a “good weeks for… Washing up”

“THE Maddie story is already a soap opera, so why the moral panic over a movie? - Don’t get me wrong - nobody wants to see Maddie: The Musical. However, needs must if the McCanns want to continue trying to find out what happened to their daughter and they do, despite the devastating expense (their somewhat unproductive detective agency alone costs £50,000 a month) and the increasingly shabby odds.”

Maddie: The Musical, eh..?

THE SUNDAY INDEPENDENT: “Strange case of the detectives trying to trace Madeleine”

“After a week when commercials deals were more apparent than clues, we investigate the investigators”. Why not investigate the case?

“Just when the Madeleine McCann saga couldn’t get any more agonising, along came a raft of developments last week that began to achieve what you would hope would be impossible: turning a little missing girl into an industry – Madeleine Inc. Item: a London agency hawking around various small girls as Madeleine lookalikes. Item: US television bringing a team of psychics to bear on the disappearance as part of what they no doubt hoped would be a money-spinner of a show. Item: her parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, exploring the possibility of selling the book and film rights to the case”

Madeleine became a brand long ago. Brand McCann…

“Madeleine Inc bring benefits to some, but not, so far, to the girl herself or her distraught parents”

Or Madeleine Ink – see the press

THE SUNDAY TIMES: Ron Liddle writes:

“So, get yourself ready for Maddie – The Movie (PG, until you fancy nipping out for something to eat). Kate and Gerry McCann’s press spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, has confirmed that the couple met with representatives from the US entertainment company IMG before Christmas and that while nothing was agreed, the meeting had been ‘positive’. A day later Gerry McCann hastily backtracked and said no, no, they weren’t planning a movie. Who to believe? And which British actors will Hollywood cast as the parents if there is a film? Sacha Baron Cohen and Catherine Tate? Am I bovvered? Look at my face – is it bovvered? And maybe Matt Lucas as the shady-looking Robert Murat? Norman Wisdom as the Portuguese chief of police?”

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Op woensdag 2 januari 2008 14:42 schreef MouzurX het volgende:
waarom is maddy zo belangrijk eig?? jaarlijks raken en tientallen/honderden kinderen/volwassenen vermist alleen zij krijgt internationaal belangstelling..

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A judge in Portugal is to consider whether the suspects in the Madeleine McCann case should have access to the police files about her disappearance. Portuguese law has prevented Robert Murat, 33, and Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry, from seeing evidence.

But it is now eight months since Mr Murat was made a suspect - a period which ends the first phase of judicial secrecy, although this can be extended. Madeleine, four, was last seen in Praia da Luz in Portugal on 3 May last year.

Secrecy move

The eight-month deadline means the local prosecutor must inform his superior why he wants more time and how long he needs. The milestone could have brought an end to the restrictions of judicial secrecy surrounding the case. This would have allowed former property developer Mr Murat and the McCanns to see the files of evidence against them.

However, last week the Portuguese prosecutor applied to have the files kept secret, a request that the judge on Monday is likely to agree to. The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the couple were "extremely disappointed" at the move.

'Living in limbo'

Mr Murat's mother, Jenny, 71, has told the BBC she is angry about what has happened to her son, who was the first person in the case to be made an "arguido" - official suspect.

She said he had been living in "limbo" since he was made a suspect on 14 May last year. "It's almost been a nothing," she said of the period. "It's just in my mind 24 hours a day." An extension to Mr Murat's suspect status could be granted on the grounds that the case is one of "exceptional complexity". Madeleine's parents are also both arguidos in the case. Mrs Murat told the BBC that on the night Madeleine was last seen, she and her son had been together at her villa in Praia da Luz.

"I know he didn't leave the house that night," she said. She said she was frustrated at how long he had been a suspect - "and really quite angry that we have been involved in it". But she added: "My strength is that we have told the truth right from the beginning."

Cards boost

Mrs Murat said she and her son had received many cards from people offering their support. "It really makes you feel so good that people are thinking about you," she said.

"I know that it's given Robert a terrific boost." The BBC's Alison Roberts in Portugal said there was no obligation on police or public prosecutors to make any kind of announcement on Monday's developments. She said: "In no case is there any obligation on police or public prosecutors to make any kind of announcement on these developments, nor is it normal for them to do so. "If there is a change in the status of a suspect or suspects, that normally emerges through the lawyers."

Last Tuesday, it was reported that prosecutors had begun moves to re-interview people involved in the case. Among those that could be spoken to are Mr and Mrs McCann themselves and the friends they dined with in Praia da Luz on the night Madeleine was last seen.

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Op maandag 14 januari 2008 11:56 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

[..]

Goh, dat is vreemd, weer een pet crematorium, komt dat ons niet bekend voor?
>knip<

Goedemorgen all!

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HARRIS: Well, how do you explain the apparent break-through in the case? You mentioned a break-through a moment ago. Well, there has been a break-through in the case, according to the authorities. How do you explain the blood in the rental car? A car rented more than 20 days after Maddie was reported missing? How do you explain it?

CORNER: It defies explanation, quite frankly. I have no idea. It flies in the face of common sense. I could speculate all day about that, but . . . HARRIS: Well wait a minute, John. I mean this is DNA evidence. This is DNA found in a rental car that was rented by the couple 20 days -- I'm just asking you, how do you explain it?

CORNER: It makes -- I can't explain it. It makes no sense. It makes no sense.

HARRIS: Do you or do you not . . .

CORNER: I just know that . . .

HARRIS: Do you not trust what the authorities are saying to you? Have you talked to Gerry or Kate about the new evidence?

CORNER: No, I haven't. Not about new evidence. Only about the police line of questioning last night. And, quite frankly, it makes no sense to me and I can't speculate on it. You know, it just -- it makes no sense at all.

HARRIS: So the authorities come back, let me just try this on you. The authorities come back to Kate and to Gerry because the question lingers, who leaves a three-year-old to watch two-year-old twins. Who does that?

CORNER: Well, you have to understand the situation. I think the only thing that Kate and Gerry are guilty of is a little bit of complacency. It's a very, very sleepy town. Well, it certainly was before the media . . .

HARRIS: Complacency? How about neglect?

CORNER: There has been police force (ph) . . .

HARRIS: How about neglect? How about child endangerment?

CORNER: Well, I disagree with that. I disagree with that. And if you talk to the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children, they disagree with that, too.

HARRIS: So as a general practice, it's OK with you, in your mind and the way you think for a three-year-old to be left to care for two- year-old twins?

CORNER: I'm not sure that's productive at this stage to talk about that. I mean, I've been to (INAUDIBLE). I've looked at it very carefully myself. And it literally was like sitting in your garden. That's how far away the apartment was.

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HARRIS: How about neglect? How about child endangerment? CORNER: Well, I disagree with that. I disagree with that. And if you talk to the International Center for Missing and Exploited Children, they disagree with that, too.