Maddie McCann: Occams razor (12).

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 13:21 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Meer info met google gevonden, geen idee eigenlijk maar de Daily Express (tabloid) meldt een en ander. Waarom dan geen losgeld in deze kwestie???Die journalist zegt gewoon wie die kidnapper is en er geld voor vraagt, nee ik geloof dat niet erg hoor.

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 13:46 schreef Suko het volgende:

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In de link dd Wednesday June 13,2007 staat een signalement van die vermeende kidnapper zoals beschreven door die 'afgewezen' journalist: "Toscano said The Frenchman was white, thinly built and around 5ft 7in tall. He has blond short hair and is in his late 40s and has three known convictions for paedophile offences."

Op de BBC destijds Saturday, 26 May 2007:
MAN'S DESCRIPTION
White
5ft 7ins
Medium build
Short hair
Wearing a dark jacket, beige trousers and dark shoes
Carrying "a child or an object that could have been taken as a child"

Zou dat dan om dezelfde man gaan?

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Volgens Correio da Manha, dat ook zijn bronnen bij het gerecht heeft, gelooft de politie dat de McCanns effectief hulp kregen van een derde persoon om het lijkje te verbergen. De krant weet ook dat de mysterieuze man die de avond van de verdwijning met een pak in een deken onder zijn arm wegliep uit het vakantiecomplex wel degelijk bestaat, maar niks met de zaak te maken heeft. "De politie heeft bewijs dat hij iets anders dan een kind onder de arm had", schrijft de Correio.

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 13:41 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Of voor de leiding van het onderzoek, het is toch nog steeds in handen van dezelfde man?

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Portugal’s Ministerio Publico, the district attorney, confirmed last night that it had charged three police officers with torture, a fourth with omission of evidence and a fifth with falsification of documents. It did not reveal who had been charged with which offence.

Despite the charges, Mr Amaral, the co-ordinator of the Policia Judiciaria in Portimao, has not been suspended from working on the Madeleine investigation, which started 39 days ago.

Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, were informed of the charges by a Foreign Office representative yesterday. A spokesman for the family said: “They do not remember meeting Goncalo Amaral face to face but naturally they were concerned to hear of the charges.”

Police sources said that Mr Amaral was “very angry” about the allegations and was considering taking action against the Ministerio Publico. “He is very professional and has had a lot of success in solving cases,” the source said. “He is very upset because reporters never speak of these successes.”

In echoes of the Madeleine case, the investigation into Joana’s disappearance got off to a false start when the Republican National Guard failed to seal off the house where Joana was last seen. Mr and Mrs McCann, from Rothley, Leicestershire, have also expressed frustration at delays in the early stages of the investigation into Madeleine’s disappearance.

Last night it emerged that a witness who claims to have seen Madeleine days after she disappeared had still not been properly interviewed by police even though detectives had assured Mr and Mrs McCann that they had fully investigated the sighting.

Mari Olli says that she saw the girl at a petrol station on the outskirts of Marrakesh in Morocco on July 9. Despite contacting Portuguese, Spanish and British police, she has still not been formally interviewed and no statement has been taken. Portuguese police admitted last week that they were still waiting for footage from the CCTV camera at the petrol station.

A McCann family source said: “We had got the impression that they had sat down with her and gone through her statement in detail, which is not the case. The Portuguese police have complained about the lack of cooperation from the Moroccan authorities. None of it fills you with confidence.”

Madeleine’s family reacted with disbelief to the claims against Mr Amaral. The missing girl’s aunt Philomena said: “Just about every country in the world is watching this. What do you think the [Portuguese] government would do? Would they have some kind of rogue policeman there? I doubt it. I find it highly unlikely. No way would they have him on such a high-profile case.”

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 14:01 schreef moussie het volgende:

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je hebt gelijk .. ze zijn alleen aangeklaagd, nog niet veroordeelt ..
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timesonline, 11 juni 2007

aangaande het laatste .. ik vraag me af of ze nu nog zo denken, nadat Kate een "deal" is aangeboden

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 14:04 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Het zou wel een goed idee zijn om die mensen van het onderzoek te halen, dit is alleen maar meer vuur voor de advocaten zo, die deal......

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 14:16 schreef moussie het volgende:

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idd .. dat zou logisch zijn, vooral omdat ook toen al duidelijk was dat de wereld er met z'n snufferd boven op zit .. tenzij je die man op die plaats nodig hebt om je sporen weg te werken, van de ware toedracht af te leiden .. ?

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 14:01 schreef moussie het volgende:

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je hebt gelijk .. ze zijn alleen aangeklaagd, nog niet veroordeelt ..
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timesonline, 11 juni 2007

aangaande het laatste .. ik vraag me af of ze nu nog zo denken, nadat Kate een "deal" is aangeboden

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 14:22 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Als je bedoelt die deal met Kate, dat als ze zou bekennen (per ongelijk gedood) een kortere straf zou krijgen? Dat is 'verzonnen' (door een advocaat van de McCanns genoemd als een misunderstanding) door de zus van Gerry McCann: "That explains the outrage 10 days ago, on the evening that Gerry and Kate McCann were declared formal suspects, or arguidos, in the disappearance of their daughter. Police were still questioning Gerry McCann when, already, his sister Philomena was telling Sky they had offered Kate McCann a reduced two-year sentence if she admitted to killing her daughter accidentally, hiding the body and then secretly disposing of it weeks later.

On this occasion the police officers were right to be angry. Like many things said about the McCann affair over the past days and months, the story was wrong. There was no offer of a plea bargain. It had all been [b]"a misunderstanding", the McCann lawyer, Carlos Pinto de Abreu, explained the following day.[/b]

That did not mean, of course, that Philomena McCann - one of many people speaking for what might broadly be called "the McCann camp" - was wrong about the rest of it. Portuguese police do seem to be considering accidental death followed by disposal of the corpse as a possibility in this most bizarre of cases. In this story without on-the-record sources, however, they have not even publicly confirmed that much." Uit mijn eerdere post.

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 14:43 schreef Suko het volgende:
De rest op de Daily Mail. Ach nee, wat heb je daar ook te zoeken, behalve je kind dan, waarvan ze zelf denken/zeggen dat ze nog leeft, maar ach...

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 15:09 schreef moussie het volgende:

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beter om via locals, privé-detective oid de regio in de gaten houden ?

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 17:35 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:

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Nee, ik weet waar je op doelt; maar dat was bedoeld als een vraag aan jou of diezelfde rechercheur ook de leiding had in 1990. (En ik koppelde dat aan de vraag of het misschien nog een oude Salazar functionaris was... Bewind van Salazar was ongeveer van 1926 tot 1974, en was in wezen een militaire junta. PS moet zijn van 1932 tot 1968, en dictatuur tot anjerrevolutie van 1974)

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Gonçalo amaral, been born in the 1960 from a poor family, has graduated in psichiatria criminology psycology and sociology and has been specialized in seizures of minors. From 2001 it guides the Policia Judiciaria di Portinao in the Algarve

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And he is always this superpoliceman, a mix between Rocca Marshal, Carvalho Pepper and Montalbano commissioner in Lusitanian sauce, to being the black beast of the parents of the piccina, Kate and Gerry McCann. It has not been tender, Amaral: "I do not know if Kate is guilty, but it would not appeal to to me that she was my mother".

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La carriera di Amaral, amante del fado di Amalia Rodrigues, è stata folgorante. Per meriti acquisiti sul campo fin dal suo ingresso nel corpo nell’81, quando abbandona gli studi di ingegneria per far parte di una Policia Judiciaria (1.300 effettivi) che, dopo la Rivoluzione dei Garofani del ‘74, cercava di scrollarsi di dosso la pessima fama ereditata dalla dittatura di Antonio Oliveira Salazar. Amaral lavora a Lisbona, Faro, Madrid, nelle Azzorre, a Siviglia. Nel ‘98 è promosso ispettore capo. Il balzo alla fama gli arriva con il suo secondo caso di rapimento, nel 2004. Sempre nell’Algarve, che conosce come pochi. E giunge anche la sua prima macchia, l’unica. Leonor Cipriano denuncia la scomparsa della figlia Joanna. Amaral indaga e conclude che la madre, in combutta col fratello Joao, scoperta in pieno incesto, aveva fatto fuori la bimba di 9 anni. Però il corpo di Leonor non è mai stato trovato, così come gli strumenti con cui, secondo il tribunale che li ha condannati a 16 anni di carcere, avrebbero squartato la piccola.

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The career of Amaral, lover of the fado of Amalia Rodrigues, has been flashing. For acquired merits on the field since its income in the body in the 81, when it abandons the engineering studies in order to make part of a Policia Judiciaria (1,300 effectives) that, after the Revolution of the Garofani of ` the 74, it tried to scrollarsi of back pessima the reputation inherited from the dictatorship of Antonio Oliveira Salazar. Amaral works to Lisbona, Beacon, Madrid, in the Azores, to Seville. In ` the 98 inspector is promoted head. The leap to the reputation arrives to it with its second case of rapimento, in 2004. Always in the Algarve, that it knows like little. And its first spot, the only one reaches also. Leonor Cipriano denunciation the passing of the Joanna daughter. Amaral inquires and concludes that the mother, in combutta with the brother Joao, discovery in incesto full load, had made outside the child of 9 years. But the body of Leonor never has not been found, therefore like the instruments with which, according to the court who has condemned them to 16 years of jail, they would have squartato the small.

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 19:31 schreef Ryan3 het volgende:

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Zijn er bronnen die dit bevestigen?
Die reactie trouwens die ik lees daaronder.
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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 12:43 schreef ThinkTank het volgende:

Je had niet door dat het ironisch bedoeld was, als antwoord op de sarcastische opmerking van keesjeislief? Zelfs niet met de smilie erachter ( ) ? Nou moe, wat ben jij oplettend!

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Op dinsdag 18 september 2007 11:14 schreef crohntje het volgende:

Dat van dat raam...ik verwacht eigenlijk dat dat nog eens herroepen wordt zou wel zo makkelijk zijn.

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 22:37 schreef Suko het volgende:
Breaking News

'No Plans To Question McCanns Again'
Updated: 21:09, Wednesday September 19, 2007

Sky News has learnt that police have no immediate plans to summon the parents of Madeleine McCann for fresh questioning.

Gerry and Kate McCann: 'Encouraged'Gerry and Kate McCann have also been informed by a prosecutor in Portugal that detectives could be following "other lines of inquiry" apart from them.

The couple, from Rothley, Leicestershire, are to remain official suspects -or "arguidos" - in the case, but they have been told there are no plans to impose new bail restrictions.

The suggestion that police could follow other lines of inquiry may mean that detectives are continuing to keep an open mind despite the McCanns' status as official suspects.

Both the McCanns and the other official suspect, Robert Murat, vigorously deny any suggestion that they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance from her family's rented holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve on May 3.

Sky Europe correspondent Greg Milam, in the Algarve, said: "This means that the investigation file has come back from the judge to the prosecutors with his comments.

"While they remain formal suspects, it will be a relief to the McCanns that they don't face further questioning either in Portugal or the UK."

Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell told Sky News: "The wording need to be very carefully assessed by Kate and Gerry's lawyers in Portugal. "But the fact that they can stay in England... is good news, surely. On the face of it, it does appear to be encouraging." Sky News Staat ook op de BBC en eveneens op HLN.

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 21:55 schreef Jane het volgende:
Er waren voor een ontvoerder immers 2 à 3 minder risicovolle manieren om het appartement ongemerkt te verlaten. Het gewoon openen van de ramen/luiken, de patio en eventueel ook de voordeur (Gerry wist later niet meer of die nou op slot was of niet). En toch de ramen forceren terwijl je al binnen bent? Ik blijf het zeggen hoor, doesn't make sense.

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Op woensdag 19 september 2007 22:44 schreef keesjeislief het volgende:

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Huh? Is nu ook die beroemde lijst met 40 vragen van de baan dan?